Plastic sepitc tank did it.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2ixFfTUoAAEGCc.jpg

Qc1:

Gotcha!!!
If I ever hear any "kobo-kobo" for your mouth again, enh..?

LOL!

Hajji M.

Qc1:

Hajj Mufutau55
Please tell me those factories are in Lagos do that I can copy-cat you. Thanks.

Yes O, of course in Lagos. Nigerchin is at Ikeja, while Coleman is at Mowe I believe. But not sure where KabelMetal is.
I buy and pay from their Agents and just go to the factory to pickup the goods.
@Allcopacetic here is an agent for Coleman, and some of my friends have purchased from him and pickup the cable at factory... that you are sure of getting the real original and genuine product.

Hajji M.

mufutau55:


Yes O, of course in Lagos. Nigerchin is at Ikeja, while Coleman is at Mowe I believe. But not sure where KabelMetal is.
I buy and pay from their Agents and just go to the factory to pickup the goods.
@Allcopacetic here is an agent for Coleman, and some of my friends have purchased from him and pickup the cable at factory... that you are sure of getting the real original and genuine product.

Hajji M.

Kabelmetal is at ikeja Asade area.

topsy23:

Kabelmetal is at ikeja Asade area.

Good. Thanks. So we have both Nigerchin and KabelMetal at Ikeja and Coleman at Mowe.

Hajji M.

twinskenny:


Sometime is cheaper buying from distributors...

You sure about that? How do I know the cheap ones are not fake?

how good is purechem cables?

twinskenny:


Sometime is cheaper buying from distributors...

Qc1:



You sure about that? How do I know the cheap ones are not fake?

Buying directly from the factory will be more expensive than buying from the open market where there distributors sell. This is because the companies will not want to deal directly with every small buyer like me and you. They will like to sell to bigger distributors who will sell to us.

They do the price hike for direct buyers who are not registered distributors to protect their distributors and ensure adequate tracking. I was in Innoson factory and they refused to sell to me directly, I was also trying to buy wires from Cutix cables factory but they referred me to their approved distributors. In this two cases, they agreed to sell to me, at a cost higher than what the distributor was selling. In this two cases they gave me the address of their distributors and advice me to buy from them.

When I asked them the conditions that will make me a distributor, they specified the amount I will pay into the company, and the frequency of my repeat purchase in a year. I was supposed to fill a form and apply to become a distributor. That is when they will sell to me cheaper.

spyder880:




Buying directly from the factory will be more expensive than buying from the open market where there distributors sell. This is because the companies will not want to deal directly with every small buyer like me and you. They will like to sell to bigger distributors who will sell to us.

They do the price hike for direct buyers who are not registered distributors to protect their distributors and ensure adequate tracking. I was in Innoson factory and they refused to sell to me directly, I was also trying to buy wires from Cutix cables factory but they referred me to their approved distributors. In this two cases, they agreed to sell to me, at a cost higher than what the distributor was selling. In this two cases they gave me the address of their distributors and advice me to buy from them.

When I asked them the conditions that will make me a distributor, they specified the amount I will pay into the company, and the frequency of my repeat purchase in a year. I was supposed to fill a form and apply to become a distributor. That is when they will sell to me cheaper.

that's the fact, most people don't know.

mavverick:
In nija ?
Not in a gated organised estate ?

Chai !

When the pit is full, some will refuse to pay and say they only pissed and shit 2 times in that period .

That's naija for you.

I don't even know how the ground stays steady to build on with all the soaking away, borehole, well, etc

Rubyventures:
COLEMAN WIRES.
1. 1.5mm single 8,500

2. 2.5mm single 15.000

3. 10mm single 48,500

4. DSTC cable 1,400

5. 4mm single 20,500

whats the length here??

EgunMogaji:


That's naija for you.

I don't even know how the ground stays steady to build on with all the soaking away, borehole, well, etc

Cheesux Christ!



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44chux:


The flow to first compartment is the shyte and water initially with only the water exiting the last stage as treated water. The principle is just to give more residence (settling) time to the mix to allow natural separation by decantation (the solid shyte at bottom and water at the top). As long as too much chemicals like bleach, antiseptic soaps, etc are not being flushed with the shyte, natural bacteria will thrive in and greatly reduce the solid using available oxygen in air to Hydrogen-Sulphide and methane gas as by products. That's why you need to properly vent the tanks firstly to put oxygen for the bacterial and release the CH4 and h2s.

The scum gets to the second tank during initial use as the levels starts to build from zero level to the height of the baffle/ opening to the second tank. At that point only the scum has reached this level and starts overflowing into the 2nd tank.

The 3rd tank should drain the treated (separated) shyte water into the environment via soak-away. For loose soil it will be filled with rocks to avoid the soil back-flowing and filling the soak-away. The more scum or solid shyte that gets to the soak-away will reduce the permeability (ability to soak away) of the system

Sir,

Methane gas when accumulated, has been shown to be explosive!
Hydrogen Sulphide on the other hand, is the major component of an "evil smelling fart" (the type you give-off after eating bans with the skin! ).

Would these two not constitute a big nuisance to the house and its ocuupant, if allowed to generate in large volumes, as depicted by these bacterial processing method?
How does one suppress them and still achieve stated objective?

Thanks Sir.



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EgunMogaji:


Seems okay to me.

My only advice is to bite only what you can chew. Don't overbuild as prices of things on the ground are eye popping now.

Good luck on your project.

PS: If it were my build, I would have both kitchens along thejavascript:void(0); same wall. My concern is that cooking aromas in the main house might waft over to the smaller units living room. Might be inconsequential to most but those are the sorts of things that I look for in great architectural designs, the living arrangements. People live in living rooms and kitchens more than bedrooms.

This is the greatest advice anyone can give, for first time builders!
being one's first house, there is always that tendency for the "heart" to rule, instead of the "brain" with the result that we OVERBUILD!

Even if you can afford it, such sprawling "mansionic bungalow" becomes so unattractive to you in a few years time.
Its even worse if you are a diasporean!

My first build in life was a "massive" 7-bed Bungalow with a decking (where l hope to relax and watch the stars at night! )
I so much hate that building that l have abandoned it and refused to complete it while l built more modern houses elsewhere.
I hated it because l built it to impress/show-off,..... not for my needs and functionality.

First time builder should build "small and functional", you can even build for rent and then when you got more experience and are fully aware of your needs and taste, build something else.
You wont regret that method.

Dont be like me, take that advice.
But it is still your decision. Nice layout though.



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erico2k2:

Bro if you are living in a gated Estate see fru fence is cool, if you are not plz do High fence.
My God father had same frame of mind until fine boys visited him, for his own safty and of his family he had to move out of his N150M house to a flat inside Uniport as we are speaking.

erico2k2 I've had situation where the fine boys "bail-up" the owner of a high fence property and "jailed" the gate after them. They were in that property for three hours in broad day light with neighbours non the wiser. High fence has its drawback.

erico2k2:

The third fence needs questioning, metal under Eletric fencing? waht happens if it get bridged

To be honest, I'm not too sure about electric fence.

joan2016:
Want to contact with you.You mail pls ?

I've replied your message

mavverick:
Share same ideas, in a gated place where you have like minded people and little jealousy, dwarf fence is fine. Apart from that, I like my high fence o, do ur thing, i do mine and make everybody mind thier business.

My fence is 10 to 12 coaches tall, by design.

I don't want the neighbors to save would be robbers from the beastiality acts that my Dobermans are performing on them.

I'm hoping it can be used as a defense in court that you've taken prudent steps to thwart accidental fence leapers

A fence is just part of a multi layered method of property defense.

EgunMogaji:


Brabus thread should still be out there somewhere. You can search for it.

PS: Just to be clear, I'm not trying to change your mind but I've studied this septic/soakaway thing in great detail to arrive at my position.

YMMV.

Weather Brabus o or UK Environmental Agency o or any possible position you have reached, let's move away from the current soakaway system in Nigeria. It is NOT working! I remember sometime ago in this forum where we all rallied to propagate the need for smoke and carbon monoxide dectector in Nigeria homes to save lives........I will call for same mind-set with the soakaway system in Nigeria. It is killing lives like home fire and carbon monoxide poisoning from Gen-Set.

From the back of my head I remember a study I read about the greatest fear of the diaspora to invest in Nigeria. From that study, the number one fear is the fear of kidnapping. In fact over 70% of diaspora polled for the study mentioned kidnapping as the number one fear. But an empirical look at available police data in a five year period just under 17 diaspora visiting home were kidnapped or almost kidnapped. If you take this figure and run a regression analysis based on the fact that only 0.2% of diaspora had been kidnapped; the fear of being kidnapped is an unfounded fear statistically. What has this to do with soakaway? Plenty.

In another study I read again away from diaspora investing in Nigeria but on public health, over 80% of diaspora polled had contracted one form of virus infection like Cholera, typhoid, vomiting bug, dysentery or diarrhoea. In fact a whooping 90% said they have known someone back on a visit from Nigeria with virus infection. Evidently virus or bacteria infection is a bigger threat to the average diaspora than kidnapping. So we build high fences to keep out the "fine boys" according to erico2k2 due to a fear that is unfounded and dismiss an effect home seawage management system as "hoopla" according to EgunMogaji which is a real clear and present danger. A classical case of getting one's priority wrong.

Please if you are planning to build in Nigeria or currently building and not yet at the septic/soakaways stage, kindly help to move away from the current concept as delivered in Nigeria and upgrade to internationally tested and recommended minimum two chambers septic tank system. You will be saving lives in your small way.

If you have built already the unacceptable Nigeria one, think about public health and ask yourself: when your septic tank is full and you call the vacuum truck guys to come suck your pit, do you ever ask where the waste is dumped? I know you know where the shyte is dumped but just in case you don't know see photos below and the consequences of open defecation. Please note that rivers don't sanitise faeces, they spread it; only the soil has the natural means of treating waste water.

At least the good news is that Lagos state government is planning to build a waste treatment facility at ibeju. I just wish other states will follow.

As for ground water contamination I will still advise one invest in deep water drilling to avoid contaminated surface water especially in Lagos ( water areas) and also go the extra length with installing a little treatment facility for chlorine injection for the safety of your family, children and tenants.

ice4u999:
At least the good news is that Lagos state government is planning to build a waste treatment facility at ibeju. I just wish other states will follow.

As for ground water contamination I will still advise one invest in deep water drilling to avoid contaminated surface water especially in Lagos ( water areas) and also go the extra length with installing a little treatment facility for chlorine injection for the safety of your family, children and tenants.

I totally agree with you. This was what prompted me to make the sacrifice and finally get my borehole done after drilling three wells on my property that didn't go deep enough for my liking. Imagine wells that didn't go deep more than 30 feet. Contamination of such wells is a possibility. Those pictures up there are heartbreaking for me. Water treatment facility on my property is a must.

diordaves:


Weather Brabus o or UK Environmental Agency o or any possible position you have reached, let's move away from the current soakaway system in Nigeria. It is NOT working! I remember sometime ago in this forum where we all rallied to propagate the need for smoke and carbon monoxide dectector in Nigeria homes to save lives........I will call for same mind-set with the soakaway system in Nigeria. It is killing lives like home fire and carbon monoxide poisoning from Gen-Set.

From the back of my head I remember a study I read about the greatest fear of the diaspora to invest in Nigeria. From that study, the number one fear is the fear of kidnapping. In fact over 70% of diaspora polled for the study mentioned kidnapping as the number one fear. But an empirical look at available police data in a five year period just under 17 diaspora visiting home were kidnapped or almost kidnapped. If you take this figure and run a regression analysis based on the fact that only 0.2% of diaspora had been kidnapped; the fear of being kidnapped is an unfounded fear statistically. What has this to do with soakaway? Plenty.

In another study I read again away from diaspora investing in Nigeria but on public health, over 80% of diaspora polled had contracted one form of virus infection like Cholera, typhoid, vomiting bug, dysentery or diarrhoea. In fact a whooping 90% said they have known someone back on a visit from Nigeria with virus infection. Evidently virus or bacteria infection is a bigger threat to the average diaspora than kidnapping. So we build high fences to keep out the "fine boys" according to erico2k2 due to a fear that is unfounded and dismiss an effect home seawage management system as "hoopla" according to EgunMogaji which is a real clear and present danger. A classical case of getting one's priority wrong.

Please if you are planning to build in Nigeria or currently building and not yet at the septic/soakaways stage, kindly help to move away from the current concept as delivered in Nigeria and upgrade to internationally tested and recommended minimum two chambers septic tank system. You will be saving lives in your small way.

If you have built already the unacceptable Nigeria one, think about public health and ask yourself: when your septic tank is full and you call the vacuum truck guys to come suck your pit, do you ever ask where the waste is dumped? I know you know where the shyte is dumped but just in case you don't know see photos below and the consequences of open defecation. Please note that rivers don't sanitise faeces, they spread it; only the soil has the natural means of treating waste water.

I consider your system a lot of hoopla because it solves nothing, in my opinion. I was looking forward to earth shattering system finally but this turned out to be just the same old stuff.

It seems overly complicated and at the end of the day the ground is still polluted.

Regarding smoke system, you're preaching to the choir. We've decided this in great detail before. No one is more of an advocate than me. I use linked WiFi smoke and carbon monoxide detectors in each living area. That is how much I'm impressed by the phenomenon. One can't be too safe.

ice4u999:
At least the good news is that Lagos state government is planning to build a waste treatment facility at ibeju. I just wish other states will follow.

As for ground water contamination I will still advise one invest in deep water drilling to avoid contaminated surface water especially in Lagos ( water areas) and also go the extra length with installing a little treatment facility for chlorine injection for the safety of your family, children and tenants.

Yeah, the ultimate solution is waste treatment facility. Any individual scheme that still leaves any "flow" into the soil is ultimately still half a solution.

Treating water at home in Nigeria is critical. I'm not at a stage yet to investigate that but I'm sure that there companies providing these setups in Nigeria.

What happened in Flint, USA was an eye opener.

mufutau55:


This xchange rate fluctuation is killing everything... Imagine, I paid N453k for Nigerchin on April 8, 2016 for 7Bedrooms duplex with two large Livingrooms and big Guard House wiring; I can't even imagine how much that will be now... You are even paying more than that for 4 bedrooms bungalow. I hope your fence is included because mine was not included and I am regretting it now. God save us o.

Hajji M.

I am quoted 1.4m to wire my duplex. After looking at the quote, workmanship is 400k. You can see how much wiring is costing me. Really dont worry much except for buying it now before it goes up

diordaves:
My Neighbour's Fence Work

The first two photos are my neighbour's fence. I'm really impressed by the handcrafted nature of the execution; no tiles, no paint; no evidenced plastering. Just handcraft. Notice the near perfect circle and the "false" brick simulation. I love it. I would have adopted it as well to give the area some semblance but I'm not a fan of high fence. I go for see-through fence. So for those how fancy high fence, I dash una.

I like see-through so I will steal the last too photos nicked from Nairaland. A good thought out fence work can really enhance the building and lift up the value of the property. We should not discount this fact.

I like "see-through" fences as well. But with insecurity in nija, i'd better go for high fence. Plus, there are things you dont want strangers/passerbys to see. Imagine you wake up in the morning to get fresh air in your compund, with your fresh pot-belly and early morning yawning with towel?. And some folks in this day and age could easily snap you from thier cell phones and place you on facebook

EgunMogaji:


What we actually "need" is a centralized sewage processing plant.

You will wait until Jesus returns

erico2k2:

Bro if you are living in a gated Estate see fru fence is cool, if you are not plz do High fence.
My God father had same frame of mind until fine boys visited him, for his own safty and of his family he had to move out of his N150M house to a flat inside Uniport as we are speaking.

My point exactly

Empiree:
You will wait until Jesus returns

I'm not in a hurry.

Before I left Nigeria, we used to go and line up @ NITEL to make overseas call. Now, Baba Biliki Eleran can call from his personal handset. Meaning = things are moving fast.

Heck, Lagos has 112? to call in an emergency now and complete with modern ambulances and tow trucks

Empiree:
I like "see-through" fences as well. But with insecurity in nija, i'd better go for high fence. Plus, there are things you dont want strangers/passerbys to see. Imagine you wake up in the morning to get fresh air in your compund, with your fresh pot-belly and early morning yawning with towel?. And some folks in this day and age could easily snap you from thier cell phones and place you on facebook

Internal and central courtyard plus lots of trees on the property

We of the potbellied contingency cannot leave anything to chance

.

diordaves:


Weather Brabus o or UK Environmental Agency o or any possible position you have reached, let's move away from the current soakaway system in Nigeria. It is NOT working! I remember sometime ago in this forum where we all rallied to propagate the need for smoke and carbon monoxide dectector in Nigeria homes to save lives........I will call for same mind-set with the soakaway system in Nigeria. It is killing lives like home fire and carbon monoxide poisoning from Gen-Set.

From the back of my head I remember a study I read about the greatest fear of the diaspora to invest in Nigeria. From that study, the number one fear is the fear of kidnapping. In fact over 70% of diaspora polled for the study mentioned kidnapping as the number one fear. But an empirical look at available police data in a five year period just under 17 diaspora visiting home were kidnapped or almost kidnapped. If you take this figure and run a regression analysis based on the fact that only 0.2% of diaspora had been kidnapped; the fear of being kidnapped is an unfounded fear statistically. What has this to do with soakaway? Plenty.

In another study I read again away from diaspora investing in Nigeria but on public health, over 80% of diaspora polled had contracted one form of virus infection like Cholera, typhoid, vomiting bug, dysentery or diarrhoea. In fact a whooping 90% said they have known someone back on a visit from Nigeria with virus infection. Evidently virus or bacteria infection is a bigger threat to the average diaspora than kidnapping. So we build high fences to keep out the "fine boys" according to erico2k2 due to a fear that is unfounded and dismiss an effect home seawage management system as "hoopla" according to EgunMogaji which is a real clear and present danger. A classical case of getting one's priority wrong.

Please if you are planning to build in Nigeria or currently building and not yet at the septic/soakaways stage, kindly help to move away from the current concept as delivered in Nigeria and upgrade to internationally tested and recommended minimum two chambers septic tank system. You will be saving lives in your small way.

If you have built already the unacceptable Nigeria one, think about public health and ask yourself: when your septic tank is full and you call the vacuum truck guys to come suck your pit, do you ever ask where the waste is dumped? I know you know where the shyte is dumped but just in case you don't know see photos below and the consequences of open defecation. Please note that rivers don't sanitise faeces, they spread it; only the soil has the natural means of treating waste water.

I am not aware of this vacuum of shyte though. My father's house was completed in 1989 but we have been living there even before it was completed. Never for once did we vacum our soakaways. That's almost 30yrs. Why is this though?. We never even had a single problem with it. All i know is we shyte and flush and it goes down succefully

EgunMogaji:


I'm not in a hurry.

Before I left Nigeria, we used to go and line up @ NITEL to make overseas call. Now, Baba Biliki Eleran can call from his personal handset. Meaning = things are moving fast.

Heck, Lagos has 112? to call in an emergency now and complete with modern ambulances and tow trucks

LOL