Let's share stories, analysis, photos and videos from the North African campaign to the western front and eastern front.

Hitler lands in Smolensk Russia-German eastern front



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzZpMzfw1jE

Exploits of the afrika korps during the North African campaign.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPl3Y-Wgv3Y

let me pack well, there is a lot to learn

will you agree @ OP that Neville chambalains theory of appeasement was responsible for the outbreak of the 2nd world war?

The outbreak has different dimensions.

abiolert:
will you agree @ OP that Neville chambalains theory of appeasement was responsible for the outbreak of the 2nd world war?

donestk:
The outbreak has different dimensions.

yea I know it had but could it be said that appeasement was the major cause?

Stalingrad; hugging the enemy tactics propounded by Lt General Vasily Chuikov. Stalingrad was one of the bloodiest (some say it's the bloodiest) battles in history with total casualties on both sides (soviet and german) close to 2 million. Fierce combat raged on relentlessly for the Mamaev Kurgan Hill and the stalingrad train station, the hill changed hands 16 times in the first few days of the battle. The soviets fought bravely and stubbornly against the German assault on stalingrad with heavy casualties on both sides. The soviets lead by Zhukov counterattacked against the Germans and sprung a double envelopment that trapped the german soldiers in the city. Fierce fighting raged on and the commander of the 6th army General Paulus requested permission from Hitler to break our of the encirclement but Hitler refused arguing that the 6th army would never leave Stalingrad and that they would be supplied from the air. The attempt to supply the 6th army from the air ultimately fails, and a rescue attempt by Von Manstein was brushed aside by the Red Army. The 6th army's fate is sealed but the soldiers still fight on while Paulus request to surrender is rejected by Hitler. Hitler then promotes General Paulus to Field Marshall noting that no german field Marshall had ever surrendered before, expecting Paulus to commit suicide. Paulus who was Roman Catholic refused to commit suicide saying "I'm not killing myself for that Bohemian corporal". With the soviets closing in on his headquarters, Paulus' chief of staff went to negotiate surrender terms with the red army. The red army breaks into Paulus' headquarters and inform Paulus that he is now their captive, left with no other choice Paulus submits himself to the Soviets and enters into captivity with the 91,000 remnants of the 6th Army.

"During the battle of Stalingrad the average life expectancy of a Soviet soldier was 24 hours"

Defaramade:
Stalingrad; hugging the enemy tactics propounded by Lt General Vasily Chuikov

donestk:
"During the battle of Stalingrad the average life expectancy of a Soviet soldier was 24 hours"

Yep, and the average life expectancy of an officer in the red army was 3 days.

Yippie, I like talking about the Nazi, both World wars, Alexander conquest to form Rome and Napoleon battle of waterloo, because these wars change the cause of history.

*WW1- uprising of globalization which failed, forming allies, Building of machinery and artilleries and testing them during the war.
Basically WW1 was a battle of supremacy which badly affect Germany.

How?

After the end of ww1, The allied force made Germany take responsibility for the break out of WW1 and instructed them to pay a huge amount of money, which inturned plunder Germany economy. The thing cum vex Hitler gon.

Hitler, then a younging was infuriated by the level of menace and how impoverish his country has turned prior to decision taken by the allied forces turned Capitalist. Thus, Nazi came onboard and also got Hitler onboard to serve his people. Then WW2 broke out.

* WW2- Oga Hitler, How far? R.I.P bros.
Hitler came onboard and brought about Germany economy reform, He took from the rich and gave the poor, At some point, He turned the idealogy into Facism, meaning, No rich, No poor, The state property is your property, everybody is entitled to equal right, The people welfare was Hitler's top most priority instead of amassing wealth. Hitler believed his people are his priceless asset and could die for them. (Great guy), but something went wrong. Hitler noticed the Jews were prosperous set of people/race among the Germans, Keep in mind, the Jews were scattered and still scattered round the world today. But Hitler was biased saying the Jews was the reason behind their misfortune prior to their loss in WW1 and so that was how he developed his anti-semitic hatred on the Jews, Another reason was, Most of the Jews opposed Hitler Fascist ideology and pushed forward for Capitalism thereby liasing with the capitalist which happens to be the allied forces. That got Hitler pissed and hated the Jews more.

He felt the Jews are fake race and need to be exterminated from Earth. Now, Hitler has that about the Jews same time, push forward to extend his facist ideology through Europe starting from Poland.... ..... .... ....

Can't type much in that regard, read that up. Alas, he succeeded till he took France and strategizing to take over Britain before the Allied forces struck back.

Let me stop there.
Hitler remains a hero for many reasons except one, His ideal of anti-semitism towards the Jews.

Footage of the battle of the bulge


http://m.warhistoryonline.com/whotube-2/stunning-color-footage-of-the-battle_of-thebulge-x-copy.html

Educative

Let's discuss Erwin Rommel, the desert fox

Defaramade:
Stalingrad; hugging the enemy tactics propounded by Lt General Vasily Chuikov. Stalingrad was one of the bloodiest (some say it's the bloodiest) battles in history with total casualties on both sides (soviet and german) close to 2 million. Fierce combat raged on relentlessly for the Mamaev Kurgan Hill and the stalingrad train station, the hill changed hands 16 times in the first few days of the battle. The soviets fought bravely and stubbornly against the German assault on stalingrad with heavy casualties on both sides. The soviets lead by Zhukov counterattacked against the Germans and sprung a double envelopment that trapped the german soldiers in the city. Fierce fighting raged on and the commander of the 6th army General Paulus requested permission from Hitler to break our of the encirclement but Hitler refused arguing that the 6th army would never leave Stalingrad and that they would be supplied from the air. The attempt to supply the 6th army from the air ultimately fails, and a rescue attempt by Von Manstein was brushed aside by the Red Army. The 6th army's fate is sealed but the soldiers still fight on while Paulus request to surrender is rejected by Hitler. Hitler then promotes General Paulus to Field Marshall noting that no german field Marshall had ever surrendered before, expecting Paulus to commit suicide. Paulus who was Roman Catholic refused to commit suicide saying "I'm not killing myself for that Bohemian corporal". With the soviets closing in on his headquarters, Paulus' chief of staff went to negotiate surrender terms with the red army. The red army breaks into Paulus' headquarters and inform Paulus that he is now their captive, left with no other choice Paulus submits himself to the Soviets and enters into captivity with the 91,000 remnants of the 6th Army.

Is Rommel overhyped?

Despite the fact that he lost North Africa, he's still being celebrated by both countrymen and adversaries. Some authors believe that he's the most overrated commander of World War II.

Share your opinion.

donestk:
Is Rommel overhyped?

Despite the fact that he lost North Africa, he's still being celebrated by both countrymen and adversaries. Some authors believe that he's the most overrated commander of World War II.

Share your opinion.

No I don't think so, considering the fact that he was constantly outnumbered by the allies who had more tanks and other war materiel. He was nicknamed the desert fox for the clever tactics he used to defeat the allied army in the early campaigns in north africa. We shouldn't also forget that he lead some spearhead tank attacks that contributed to the defeat of the French army during the battle of France. ln fact he was so good at his job that the allies tried to eliminate him in his headquarters in North Africa. He eventually lost North Africa but it was a matter of time, as I said earlier the allies outnumbered him and had better logistics so they could absorb the earlier defeats rommel inflicted on them without crumbling. He was celebrated by his adversaries and countrymen because apart from being a capable field commander and tactician he also refused to commit war crimes, treated captured POWs well deliberately disobeying Hitler's commando order that allied commandos should be executed when captured and also because he refused to participate in the Holocaust. He was one of the most senior werhmacht officers implicated in the plot to kill Hitler. But because he was very popular with the people the nazis offered him two choices; commit suicide and be buried with full military honours or stand trial and his family be persecuted. He chose to commit suicide to save his family and the nazis announced that he was killed by allied strafing warplanes. It was after the war that the real cause of his death was disclosed to the people making him to be celebrated as one of those people who stood up to Adolf Hitler.

donestk:
Let's share stories, analysis, photos and videos from the North African campaign to the western front and eastern front.

Bro please don't let this thread die off.

Great thread. I'm loving these discourse.

@defaramade, why were the axis powers occupying North Africa?

I'm just curious.

donestk:
@defaramade, why were the axis powers occupying North Africa?

I'm just curious.

The axis powers occupied North Africa because of huge oil reserves present in the North African countries (Egypt, Libya especially). They needed oil to fuel their tanks, trucks and warplanes. They also wanted to control the Mediterranean sea shipping.

Between Rommel and Manstein, who was more of a genius?

donestk:
Between Rommel and Manstein, who was more of a genius?

Tough one but I'll go for Manstein. His superb tactical astuteness saved the German army from imminent collapse on many occasions in the eastern front (Sevastopol, operation Mars, 3rd battle of Karkhov) while destroying soviet armies that vastly outnumbered them and capturing huge number of soviet POWs.

You're so vast in this. Are you a history scholar or something?

Defaramade:
Tough one but I'll go for Manstein. His superb tactical astuteness saved the German army from imminent collapse on many occasions in the eastern front (Sevastopol, operation Mars, 3rd battle of Karkhov) while destroying soviet armies that vastly outnumbered them and capturing huge number of soviet POWs.

Where are other enthusiast in this thread?

Please come and contribute your quota.

Prior to the Battle of the Bulge, a line, 88 miles long, was drawn by Allied officers throughout the Ardennes region. The Ardennes lies in Belgium but also runs through Luxembourg, France, and Germany.

It is very strategically placed and so its history is littered with battles and wars.

Because this area consists of uneven terrain that includes forests, hills, and ravines the Germans had to come up with ways to traverse the region safely and quickly. They managed to find a way to do this and arrived at France to attack Paris in May 1940.

The fighting began at the Normandy landings in June 1944 and did not stop throughout the next months.

By November the decision was made to send hundreds of Allied soldiers to re-equip and rest; leaving inexperienced soldiers to defend the front.

Little did they know what was to come next: 25 German divisions, armed with heavy artillery, as well as two Panzer tank divisions had grouped in the cover of the forests in the Eifel region. It was an area in which it was easy to blend in and hide in plain sight.

Here were a group of 20-30,000 Germans ready to overcome the Allies and push through to Antwerp, Belgium.

Battle of the bulge

The Germans plan of action was to divide the American and British forces in half. This way the Germans could then surround and defeat the Allied armies – forcing the Allies to sign a peace treaty that would favor the Germans terms.

Adolf Hitler believed that once that was complete then the German troops could focus their attention on the Eastern side of the War.

Watch this footage, shown in color, to see the German troops attack via the Ardennes.

donestk:
You're so vast in this. Are you a history scholar or something?

Lol, no I'm not a history scholar. It's just as the title of the thread says; I'm an enthusiast of world War II history who has read widely on the various operations, campaigns, battles, timelines and commanders of world War II.

I've learnt alot lately from your posts. Respect!

Defaramade:
Lol, no I'm not a history scholar. It's just as the title of the thread says; I'm an enthusiast of world War II history who has read widely on the various operations, campaigns, battles, timelines and commanders of world War II.

donestk:
Where are other enthusiast in this thread?

Please come and contribute your quota.

Maybe we should call Lalasticlala & Mynd44 to help our ministry so that others can contribute.

donestk:
I've learnt alot lately from your posts. Respect!

Thanks boss, Respect from here too

Donald Trump is the new Hitler. He is using the very same tactics Hitler used to gain popularity - scapegoating minorities, expressing a wish to make the country great "again", and vowing to deal with foreign enemies by war. Like Hitler, he will garner millions of supporters, many of whom will perish in the flames of his madness and megalomania. Like Hitler roped in decent men like Erwin Rommel into his bloodlust, so will Trump incorporate the likes of "mad dog" Mathis, the defence secretary. But these sane characters will bow to the madman's whims, and will be overshadowed by the new Goebbels, Himmler, and Goering, to our tragedy. God help us.

Sir Rosikki I see you viewing. Your contributions to the thread will be highly appreciated.