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Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by ideatoprince18(m): 7:51am On Feb 12, 2017 |
Why did Uncle Mohammad rape a 9year old girl ..... Why did he have to covet his sons wife?? ..... Why did he have to kill People who did him no harm?? ..... Why did he die like a rat from poison if Allah was with him ....... I prefer to follow a sinless Man like Jesus than to follow a Lustful Muderer like Mohammad!!!!! 1 Like |
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by Nobody: 7:51am On Feb 12, 2017 |
Bible says that Jesus lived because of God ‘I live because of the Father.’ (John 6:57) Jesus cannot be God because he depended on God for his own existence |
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by Nobody: 7:52am On Feb 12, 2017 |
Bible says that Jesus’ powers were given to him ‘All power is given unto me.’ (Matt 28:18) God is all-powerful, no one gives God His powers, otherwise He would not be God because He would be weak. Therefore, Jesus could not be God. |
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by Nobody: 7:53am On Feb 12, 2017 |
Bible says that Jesus was taught & commanded by God ‘As my Father hath taught me, I speak these things,’ (John 8:28) ‘The Father, who sent me, he gave me a commandment.’ (John 12:49) ‘I have kept my Father’s commandments.’ (John 15:10) No one can teach God, otherwise God cannot be All-Knowing and would owe His teacher. Since Jesus was taught and commanded by God, Jesus cannot be God himself. The teacher and the student, the commander and the commanded are not one. |
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by Nobody: 7:54am On Feb 12, 2017 |
Bible says that God made Jesus ‘Lord’! ‘God has made this Jesus both Lord and Christ.’ (Acts 2:36) ‘Lord’ is used in many ways in the Bible, and others beside God and Jesus are called ‘Lord.’ For example: 1) property owners (Matt. 20: 2) heads of households (Mark 13:35) 3) slave owners (Matt. 10:24) 4) husbands (1 Pet. 3:6) 5) a son called his father Lord (Matt. 21:30) 6) the Roman Emperor was called Lord (Acts 25:26) 7) Roman authorities were called Lord (Matt. 27:63) ‘Lord’ is not the same as ‘God.’ ‘Lord’ (the Greek word is kurios) is a masculine title of respect and nobility used many times in the Bible. If Jesus was God, then for the Bible to say he was ‘made’ Lord would make no sense. |
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by Nobody: 7:55am On Feb 12, 2017 |
Bible says that Jesus was lower than angels ‘But we do see him who was made for a little while lower than the angels, namely, Jesus.’ (Hebrews 2:9) God, the Creator of angels, can not be lower than His own creation, but Jesus was. Therefore, Jesus was not God |
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by manutdadex(m): 7:56am On Feb 12, 2017 |
Lol.. Pathetic.. Go on keep reading the Bible.. We dont depend on fried or boiled meat to believe Him. Ur salvation is near 1 Like |
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by Nobody: 7:56am On Feb 12, 2017 |
Bible says that Jesus called the Father ‘my God’ ‘My God, My God, why have You forsaken me?’ (Matt. 27:46) ‘I ascend to my Father and your Father, and my God and your God.’ (John 20:17) ‘the temple of my God the name of my God the city of my God comes down out of heaven from my God.’ (Rev. 3:12) Jesus did not think of himself as God, instead Jesus’ God is the same as ours. |
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by Nobody: 7:57am On Feb 12, 2017 |
Bible says that God cannot be seen But Jesus was seen by others ‘no man has seen God at any time.’ (John 1:18) |
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by Nobody: 7:59am On Feb 12, 2017 |
Bible says twice that Jesus was accused of being God But he denied it: According to the Bible, on only two instances the Jews opposed Jesus on the basis that he pretended to be God or equal with God. Had Jesus, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, claimed to be God, he is likely to have been opposed on this basis more frequently. Because in these two instances, when charged, in the one case, with making himself God, and in the other, with making himself equal with God, he denied the charges. In reply to the charge of being an equal with God, he says immediately: ‘The son can do nothing of himself, but what he sees the Father do’; and directly after ‘I can of mine own self do nothing.’ (John 5:19, 30) In answer to the charge of making himself God, he appeals to the Jews in substance thus: Your own Scriptures call Moses a god, and your magistrates gods; I am surely not inferior to them, yet I did not call myself God, but only the ‘son’ of God (John 10:34-36). This is unlikely to have been Jesus’ actual response. Hastings in ‘The Dictionary of the Bible’ says, ‘Whether Jesus used it of himself is doubtful.’ Grolier’s encyclopedia, under the heading ‘Jesus Christ,’ says, ‘it is uncertain whether the Father/Son language (Mark 18:32; Matt. 11:25-27 par.; John passim) goes back to Jesus himself |
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by Nobody: 8:00am On Feb 12, 2017 |
The (Biblical) passages where Jesus talks about the Son of God are later additions. what the church said about him. Such a claim of deity for himself would not have been consistent with his entire lifestyle as we can reconstruct. For the first three decades after Jesus’ death Christianity continued as a sect within Judaism. The first three decades of the existence of the church were within the synagogue. That would have been beyond belief if they (the followers) had boldly proclaimed the deity of Jesus.’ Assuming Jesus did say that he was ‘son’ of God. What did it mean? We first need to know the language of his people, the language of the Jews to whom he was speaking. |
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by Nobody: 8:00am On Feb 12, 2017 |
The Bible says God had many ‘sons’ First, most people think there are no other verses that contradict or give equal divine sonship to other persons in the Old or New Testament. For Jesus to be called son of God, does not make him a true son of God, other wise Adam, Jacob, Ephraim and many more should also be considered as been sons of God as such they should be worshiped too according to such method. Adam: ‘Adam, which was the son of God.’ (Luke 3:38) Jacob is God’s son and firstborn: ‘Israel is my son, even my firstborn.’ (Exodus 4:22) Solomon: ‘I will be his father, and he shall be my son.’ (2 Samuel 7:13-14) Ephraim: ‘for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn.’ (Jeremiah 31:9) is God’s firstborn, common people are called the sons of God: ‘Ye are the children of the Lord your God’ (Deuteronomy 14:1) |
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by Kondomatic(m): 8:01am On Feb 12, 2017 |
Jesus is not God |
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by thorpido(m): 8:06am On Feb 12, 2017 |
Carry your thread to your Jesus is Jesus.....Duh |
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by respect80(m): 8:20am On Feb 12, 2017 |
If you were an atheist I would have had so much conversation with you but since you are a Muslim don't worry I understand how desperate and bewildered state you would have been while reading the Bible looking for verses to criticize the Bible with and verses to justify your belief (Islam) from the same book you seek to betray. In simplicity I want to tell you that I am puzzled by the fact that peoples scholarship never seem authentic when they say positive things about the Bible but only times when they say negative things about the Bible. Also don't you see it creepy to look for evidence to criticize something from itself? 1. If the Bible is not good enough then how do I see you for looking for evidence from it? 2. If the Bible is bad yet you seek for evidence in it, who then is confused, the Bible or yourself? 3. Don't you think you just helped me uphold my belief rather than dwindling it? 4. Remember your Koran clearly state in chapter 5 vs 48 that "let the people of the injeel (Gospel) judge according to what Allah has revealed therein and whosoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed, then such people are the fasiqun(rebellious or disobedient) to Allah. Note if the koran says the people of the injeel (i.e people of the gospel) should judge by what Allah has revealed therein then the koran has also uphold the authenticity of the Bible which was long written before the koran. Don't tell me the Bible was changed because your koran also stated In chapter 6 vs 114-115, 114-"say o Muhammed shall I seek a judge other than Allah while it is he who have sent down unto you the book (Quran), explained in detail. " those whom we gave the scripture (the Torah) and the injeel (Gospel) know that it is revealed from your Lord in truth. So be not you of those who doubt. Note - the above verse confirms that the Bible was revealed by Allah. Note that injeel which means the gospel is the new testament of the Bible we have today and the Torah is the old testament of the Bible which your koran has confirmed its authenticity. Then verse 115 went further to say "and the words of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can change his words. And he is the all-hearer, the all-knower " The verse above confirms that Allah's words cannot be changed therefore don't dare to say the Bible was changed. From what you can see the koran clearly testifies that the Bible is the word of Allah therefore if as a Muslim you doubt any word of the Bible then I leave you to be judged by your Allah. In summary the day the Bible ceases to be true, the same day your koran cease to be anything worth talking about or even read. This is because your koran confirms the Bible as the word of Allah which can never be changed. Have a great day ahead. |
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by felixomor: 8:59am On Feb 12, 2017 |
U have left your koran to come and teach the Jesus you dont know this sunday morning? Mscheeew.... |
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by mespusinglez(m): 12:10pm On Feb 12, 2017 |
Jibril659:Well To Whom It May Concern "JESUS IS GOD" .......No Further Details 1 Like |
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by sanandreas(m): 12:54pm On Feb 12, 2017 |
Jesus said I am the way the truth and the light, no one cometh to the father except through me. I don't know why Muslim's don't focus on their Koran and leave the Bible alone. 1 Like |
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by femicyrus(m): 3:41pm On Feb 12, 2017 |
Op, please encourage your brothers to embrace western education like you. that is the only reason you are not with them killing Christians that will never accept your faith. thanks |
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by platinumphotos: 5:00pm On Feb 12, 2017 |
I wonder why muslims will be opening and preaching from the Bible even right inside their mosque. I have seen this happen may times, even on a particular occasion, I witnessed an open air lecture of muslims where the Imam/cleric brought more than four versions of the bible just in a bid to criticise God's word. Why not just focus on your faith and leave us alone? except for the fact that you know secretly within yourselves that Jesus alone is the way, the truth and the Life. No one( including Muslims, Imams, Alfas, Alhajis, etc) can enter heaven except by Him. |
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by Blaqsuqar: 3:50am On Mar 05, 2017 |
Jibril659:So you believe these selected things from the Bible but you dont believe the part where the Bible says He died on the cross and resurrected on the 3rd day?that His blood is the One and only sacrifice that washes away our sins?that no one comes to the Father except by Him?..."it is finished".... That was His last Words on the cross He is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON of God, the world was created by Him and He says I and the Father are one, if you have seen me you have seen the Father While on earth He was a man,like you and I, but filled with The Holy Spirit, hence he could die, be tempted, was hungry, was weak, but without sin hence the perfect sacrifice for once and all. Before coming to earth He is the Word of God through which the heavens and earth were created. And now He is seated at the right hand of the Father and would come again in Glory to judge the living and the dead and His Kingdom would have no end...says the Bible....choose what u want to believe. |
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by Nobody: 3:14pm On Mar 07, 2017 |
Well you spoke your mind. Well done.
Now Jesus on earth was a man just as you and i.
The Word became flesh and dwelt amongst us.
Meaning The Word became a man.
Now remember what was said concerning The Word.
The Word was God.
The Father is God
The Word is God
The Holy Spirit is God
Together, They become One God.
But The Word and The Holy Spirit are subject to The Father. |
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by orisa37: 3:25pm On Mar 07, 2017 |
Your Understanding is limited. You're still in the class of those who can read and hear but can't understand or practise |
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by orisa37: 4:41pm On Mar 07, 2017 |
Think and reason well and you'll know that those verses and writing are telling you about tThe Nature, that is, The Light, Goodness and The Life of God in you, The Creature of God made In His Image. |
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