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Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by ideatoprince18(m): 7:51am On Feb 12, 2017
Why did Uncle Mohammad rape a 9year old girl ..... Why did he have to covet his sons wife?? ..... Why did he have to kill People who did him no harm?? ..... Why did he die like a rat from poison if Allah was with him ....... I prefer to follow a sinless Man like Jesus than to follow a Lustful Muderer like Mohammad!!!!!

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Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by Nobody: 7:51am On Feb 12, 2017
Bible says that Jesus lived because of God
‘I live because of the Father.’ (John 6:57)
Jesus cannot be God because he depended on God for his own existence
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by Nobody: 7:52am On Feb 12, 2017
Bible says that Jesus’ powers were given to him
‘All power is given unto me.’ (Matt 28:18)
God is all-powerful, no one gives God His powers, otherwise He would not be God because He would be weak. Therefore, Jesus could not be God.
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by Nobody: 7:53am On Feb 12, 2017
Bible says that Jesus was taught & commanded by God
‘As my Father hath taught me, I speak these things,’ (John 8:28)
‘The Father, who sent me, he gave me a commandment.’ (John 12:49)
‘I have kept my Father’s commandments.’ (John 15:10)

No one can teach God, otherwise God cannot be All-Knowing and would owe His teacher. Since Jesus was taught and commanded by God, Jesus cannot be God himself. The teacher and the student, the commander and the commanded are not one.
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by Nobody: 7:54am On Feb 12, 2017
Bible says that God made Jesus ‘Lord’!
‘God has made this Jesus both Lord and Christ.’ (Acts 2:36)
‘Lord’ is used in many ways in the Bible, and others beside God and Jesus are called ‘Lord.’ For example:

1) property owners (Matt. 20:cool
2) heads of households (Mark 13:35)
3) slave owners (Matt. 10:24)
4) husbands (1 Pet. 3:6)
5) a son called his father Lord (Matt. 21:30)
6) the Roman Emperor was called Lord (Acts 25:26)
7) Roman authorities were called Lord (Matt. 27:63)

‘Lord’ is not the same as ‘God.’ ‘Lord’ (the Greek word is kurios) is a masculine title of respect and nobility used many times in the Bible. If Jesus was God, then for the Bible to say he was ‘made’ Lord would make no sense.
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by Nobody: 7:55am On Feb 12, 2017
Bible says that Jesus was lower than angels
‘But we do see him who was made for a little while lower than the angels, namely, Jesus.’ (Hebrews 2:9)

God, the Creator of angels, can not be lower than His own creation, but Jesus was. Therefore, Jesus was not God
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by manutdadex(m): 7:56am On Feb 12, 2017
Lol.. Pathetic.. Go on keep reading the Bible.. We dont depend on fried or boiled meat to believe Him. Ur salvation is near

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Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by Nobody: 7:56am On Feb 12, 2017
Bible says that Jesus called the Father ‘my God’
‘My God, My God, why have You forsaken me?’ (Matt. 27:46)
‘I ascend to my Father and your Father, and my God and your God.’ (John 20:17)

‘the temple of my God the name of my God the city of my God comes down out of heaven from my God.’ (Rev. 3:12)

Jesus did not think of himself as God, instead Jesus’ God is the same as ours.
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by Nobody: 7:57am On Feb 12, 2017
Bible says that God cannot be seen
But Jesus was seen by others ‘no man has seen God at any time.’ (John 1:18)
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by Nobody: 7:59am On Feb 12, 2017
Bible says twice that Jesus was accused of being God
But he denied it: According to the Bible, on only two instances the Jews opposed Jesus on the basis that he pretended to be God or equal with God. Had Jesus, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, claimed to be God, he is likely to have been opposed on this basis more frequently.

Because in these two instances, when charged, in the one case, with making himself God, and in the other, with making himself equal with God, he denied the charges. In reply to the charge of being an equal with God, he says immediately:

‘The son can do nothing of himself, but what he sees the Father do’; and directly after ‘I can of mine own self do nothing.’ (John 5:19, 30)

In answer to the charge of making himself God, he appeals to the Jews in substance thus: Your own Scriptures call Moses a god, and your magistrates gods; I am surely not inferior to them, yet I did not call myself God, but only the ‘son’ of God (John 10:34-36).

This is unlikely to have been Jesus’ actual response. Hastings in ‘The Dictionary of the Bible’ says, ‘Whether Jesus used it of himself is doubtful.’ Grolier’s encyclopedia, under the heading ‘Jesus Christ,’ says, ‘it is uncertain whether the Father/Son language (Mark 18:32; Matt. 11:25-27 par.; John passim) goes back to Jesus himself
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by Nobody: 8:00am On Feb 12, 2017
The (Biblical) passages where Jesus talks about the Son of God are later additions. what the church said about him. Such a claim of deity for himself would not have been consistent with his entire lifestyle as we can reconstruct. For the first three decades after Jesus’ death Christianity continued as a sect within Judaism. The first three decades of the existence of the church were within the synagogue. That would have been beyond belief if they (the followers) had boldly proclaimed the deity of Jesus.’

Assuming Jesus did say that he was ‘son’ of God. What did it mean? We first need to know the language of his people, the language of the Jews to whom he was speaking.
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by Nobody: 8:00am On Feb 12, 2017
The Bible says God had many ‘sons’
First, most people think there are no other verses that contradict or give equal divine sonship to other persons in the Old or New Testament.

For Jesus to be called son of God, does not make him a true son of God, other wise Adam, Jacob, Ephraim and many more should also be considered as been sons of God as such they should be worshiped too according to such method.

Adam: ‘Adam, which was the son of God.’ (Luke 3:38)
Jacob is God’s son and firstborn: ‘Israel is my son, even my firstborn.’ (Exodus 4:22)

Solomon: ‘I will be his father, and he shall be my son.’ (2 Samuel 7:13-14)

Ephraim: ‘for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn.’ (Jeremiah 31:9)

is God’s firstborn, common people are called the sons of God: ‘Ye are the children of the Lord your God’ (Deuteronomy 14:1)
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by Kondomatic(m): 8:01am On Feb 12, 2017
Jesus is not God
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by thorpido(m): 8:06am On Feb 12, 2017
Carry your thread to your cave Islam for muslim section and please yourself.Noone is interested in what you think about Jesus.
Jesus is Jesus.....Duh
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by respect80(m): 8:20am On Feb 12, 2017
If you were an atheist I would have had so much conversation with you but since you are a Muslim don't worry I understand how desperate and bewildered state you would have been while reading the Bible looking for verses to criticize the Bible with and verses to justify your belief (Islam) from the same book you seek to betray.

In simplicity I want to tell you that I am puzzled by the fact that peoples scholarship never seem authentic when they say positive things about the Bible but only times when they say negative things about the Bible. Also don't you see it creepy to look for evidence to criticize something from itself?
1. If the Bible is not good enough then how do I see you for looking for evidence from it?
2. If the Bible is bad yet you seek for evidence in it, who then is confused, the Bible or yourself?

3. Don't you think you just helped me uphold my belief rather than dwindling it?

4. Remember your Koran clearly state in chapter 5 vs 48 that "let the people of the injeel (Gospel) judge according to what Allah has revealed therein and whosoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed, then such people are the fasiqun(rebellious or disobedient) to Allah. Note if the koran says the people of the injeel (i.e people of the gospel) should judge by what Allah has revealed therein then the koran has also uphold the authenticity of the Bible which was long written before the koran.
Don't tell me the Bible was changed because your koran also stated In chapter 6 vs 114-115,

114-"say o Muhammed shall I seek a judge other than Allah while it is he who have sent down unto you the book (Quran), explained in detail. " those whom we gave the scripture (the Torah) and the injeel (Gospel) know that it is revealed from your Lord in truth. So be not you of those who doubt.

Note - the above verse confirms that the Bible was revealed by Allah. Note that injeel which means the gospel is the new testament of the Bible we have today and the Torah is the old testament of the Bible which your koran has confirmed its authenticity.

Then verse 115 went further to say "and the words of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can change his words. And he is the all-hearer, the all-knower "
The verse above confirms that Allah's words cannot be changed therefore don't dare to say the Bible was changed.

From what you can see the koran clearly testifies that the Bible is the word of Allah therefore if as a Muslim you doubt any word of the Bible then I leave you to be judged by your Allah.

In summary the day the Bible ceases to be true, the same day your koran cease to be anything worth talking about or even read.
This is because your koran confirms the Bible as the word of Allah which can never be changed.
Have a great day ahead.
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by felixomor: 8:59am On Feb 12, 2017
U have left your koran to come and teach the Jesus you dont know this sunday morning?

Mscheeew....
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by mespusinglez(m): 12:10pm On Feb 12, 2017
Jibril659:
Compiled by Adenino Otari

All four Gospels record Jesus as saying, "Blessed are the peace-makers; they will be called sons of God."

The word ‘son’ cannot be accepted literally because in the Bible, God apparently addresses many of his chosen servants as ‘son’ and ‘sons.’ The Hebrews believed God is One, and had neither wife nor children in any literal sense. Therefore, it is obvious the expression ‘son of God’ merely meant ‘Servant of God’; one who, because of faithful service, was close and dear to God as a son is to his father.

Christians who came from a Greek or Roman background, later misused this term. In their heritage, ‘son of God’ signified an incarnation of a god or someone born of a physical union between male and female gods. This can be seen in Acts 14: 11-13, where we read that when Paul and Barnabas preached in a city of Turkey, pagans claimed they were gods incarnate. They called Barnabas the Roman god Zeus, and Paul the Roman god Hermes.

Furthermore, the New Testament Greek word translated as ‘son’ are ‘pias’ and ‘paida’ which mean ‘servant,’ or ‘son in the sense of servant.’ These are translated to ‘son’ in reference to Jesus and ‘servant’ in reference to all others in some translations of the Bible. So, consistent with other verses, Jesus was merely saying that he is God’s servant.

Additional problems with Trinity
To a christian, God had to take human form to understand temptation and human suffering, but the concept is not based on any clear words of Jesus. In contrast, God does not need to be tempted and suffer in order to be able to understand and forgive man’s sins, for He is the all knowing Creator of man. This is expressed in the verse:

‘And the Lord said: ‘I have surely seen the affliction of My people that are in Egypt, and I have heard their cry because of their taskmasters; for I know their pains.’ (Exodus 3:7)

God forgave sin before Jesus’ appearance, and He continues to forgive without any assistance. When a believer sins, he may come before God in sincere repentance to receive forgiveness. Indeed, the offer to humble oneself before God and be saved is made to all humankind.

‘And there is no God else beside Me; a just God and a Savior; there is none beside Me. Look to Me, and be saved, all the ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is none else.’ (Isaiah 45:21-22, Jonah 3:5-10)

Biblically, people can receive forgiveness of sins through sincere repentance sought directly from God. This is true at all times and in all places. There has never been a need for the so-called inter cessionary role Jesus plays in attaining atonement. The facts speak for themselves. There is no truth to the Christian belief that Jesus died for our sins and salvation is only through Jesus. What about the salvation of people before Jesus? Jesus’ death brings neither atonement from sin, nor is it in any way a fulfillment of biblical prophecy.

Christians claim that in the birth of Jesus, there occurred the miracle of the incarnation of God in the form of a human being. To say that God became truly a human being invites a number of questions. Let us ask the following about the man-God Jesus. What happened to his foreskin after his circumcision (Luke 2:21)?

Did it ascend to heaven, or did it decompose as with any human piece of flesh? During his lifetime what happened to his hair, nails, and blood shed from wounds? Did the cells of his body die as in ordinary human beings? If his body did not function in a truly human way, he could not be truly human as well as truly God. Yet, if his body functioned exactly in a human way, this would nullify any claim to divinity. It would be impossible for any part of God, even if incarnate, to decompose in any way and still be considered God. The everlasting, one God, in whole or in part, does not die, disintegrate, or decompose: ‘For I the Lord do not change.’ (Malachi 3:6)
Well To Whom It May Concern "JESUS IS GOD" .......No Further Details

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Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by sanandreas(m): 12:54pm On Feb 12, 2017
Jesus said I am the way the truth and the light, no one cometh to the father except through me. I don't know why Muslim's don't focus on their Koran and leave the Bible alone.

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Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by femicyrus(m): 3:41pm On Feb 12, 2017
Op, please encourage your brothers to embrace western education like you. that is the only reason you are not with them killing Christians that will never accept your faith. thanks
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by platinumphotos: 5:00pm On Feb 12, 2017
I wonder why muslims will be opening and preaching from the Bible even right inside their mosque. I have seen this happen may times, even on a particular occasion, I witnessed an open air lecture of muslims where the Imam/cleric brought more than four versions of the bible just in a bid to criticise God's word. Why not just focus on your faith and leave us alone? except for the fact that you know secretly within yourselves that Jesus alone is the way, the truth and the Life. No one( including Muslims, Imams, Alfas, Alhajis, etc) can enter heaven except by Him.
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by Blaqsuqar: 3:50am On Mar 05, 2017
Jibril659:
The (Biblical) passages where Jesus talks about the Son of God are later additions. what the church said about him. Such a claim of deity for himself would not have been consistent with his entire lifestyle as we can reconstruct. For the first three decades after Jesus’ death Christianity continued as a sect within Judaism. The first three decades of the existence of the church were within the synagogue. That would have been beyond belief if they (the followers) had boldly proclaimed the deity of Jesus.’

Assuming Jesus did say that he was ‘son’ of God. What did it mean? We first need to know the language of his people, the language of the Jews to whom he was speaking.
So you believe these selected things from the Bible but you dont believe the part where the Bible says He died on the cross and resurrected on the 3rd day?that His blood is the One and only sacrifice that washes away our sins?that no one comes to the Father except by Him?..."it is finished".... That was His last Words on the cross
He is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON of God, the world was created by Him and He says I and the Father are one, if you have seen me you have seen the Father
While on earth He was a man,like you and I, but filled with The Holy Spirit, hence he could die, be tempted, was hungry, was weak, but without sin hence the perfect sacrifice for once and all.
Before coming to earth He is the Word of God through which the heavens and earth were created. And now He is seated at the right hand of the Father and would come again in Glory to judge the living and the dead and His Kingdom would have no end...says the Bible....choose what u want to believe.
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by Nobody: 3:14pm On Mar 07, 2017
Well you spoke your mind. Well done. Now Jesus on earth was a man just as you and i. The Word became flesh and dwelt amongst us. Meaning The Word became a man. Now remember what was said concerning The Word. The Word was God. The Father is God The Word is God The Holy Spirit is God Together, They become One God. But The Word and The Holy Spirit are subject to The Father.
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by orisa37: 3:25pm On Mar 07, 2017
Your Understanding is limited. You're still in the class of those who can read and hear but can't understand or practise
Re: 90 Verses In The Bible Say Jesus Is Not God by orisa37: 4:41pm On Mar 07, 2017
Think and reason well and you'll know that those verses and writing are telling you about tThe Nature, that is,

The Light, Goodness and The Life of God in you, The Creature of God made In His Image.

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