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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:52pm On Feb 21, 2017
Icon4s:


So what's funny?

This never ending contention about Ilori not being a waste man.

The discussion has centred on Ilori with Forgiveness essentially thinking he is a quality player and Goldfish80 of the opinion which I support that's he is a player that has very little quality and has failed to prove his quality.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 9:03pm On Feb 21, 2017
Saheed69:


Are you OK at all, does this thread look like bet9ja thread.
I can't stop laughing.

When u tot u've seen it all-Nigerians no de disappoint.
Football gambling too don get im own prophecy?
(abeg make im prophecy Nigeria vs Cameroon's matches make we see)
Well, I understand, man must chop.

My Advice: Overconfidence kills.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:11pm On Feb 21, 2017
goldfish80:


Reading paid a club record fee of a whooping 3.5M for the straw man while Liverpool lost more than 50% of the investment they made on the same player grin

I get am before no be property na grin... Ndidi, Success and Ademola where busy building themselves up while Sporting Lisbon carry bad market drop for Liverpool hand grin am sure Mino Raoila hand dey for that transfer grin
Today, this same player is worth 5 times less than his age mates grin

Ndidi na attacker abi? grin


Thiago is on the same level as Semi Ajayi grin




Liverpool to make profit on Tiago Ilori transfer after Reading agree £3.75million deal

ByKristian Walsh,
09:32, 9 JAN 2017

Tiago Ilori is on the brink of completing his £3.75million move [/b]to Reading – ensuring Liverpool have turned in a profit on the Portuguese defender.

[b]The 23-year-old cost the Reds £3.5million from Sporting Lisbon in the summer of 2013
, sad sad grin in a deal which potentially could have risen to £7million.

The club agreed the fee late last week, and have also inserted a 25% sell-on clause in the contract.

The deal should be completed in the next 24 hours.

The centre back moves to the Royals to aid their promotion push, with Jaap Stam’s side currently third in the Championship.



http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/liverpool-make-profit-tiago-ilori-12424521



dey deceive yaself. @bolded explained all. grin grin grin grin grin grin


Did you read only attackers on my comment? I repeat, We all know clubs pay more for attacker and mildfielders. And we all know Ndidi, Success and Ademoola fall into those categories. EOD
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 9:12pm On Feb 21, 2017
I throway salute to Sir. Goldfish80, Sir. Komekn n . E be like say na only u fi catch Sir. Forgiveness. Both of u don give am close marking.

He always seems to know these guys better than everyone here.

Tiago don talk se e no play for us-n d guy sef no be super eagle material
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:24pm On Feb 21, 2017
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

Some people no dey sabi see better player. grin grin grin grin grin

I remembered I had heated arguments with many people here, Thegoodjoe been the ring leader, condemned Falcao. They said if Solanke was good enough, Chelsea should not had brought dead Falcao to Chelsea.. grin grin grin grin grin grin

You see as he dey nak apako for Man City net. grin

The same thing is just happening now, Tiago Ilori no good, alluded by some people. grin grin grin grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 9:37pm On Feb 21, 2017
AIG07:
I throway salute to Sir. Goldfish80, Sir. Komekn n . E be like say na only u fi catch Sir. Forgiveness. Both of u don give am close marking.

He always seems to know these guys better than everyone here.

Tiago don talk se e no play for us-n d guy sef no be super eagle material

Forgiveness is not doing badly here
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:39pm On Feb 21, 2017
Icon4s:


You guys should forget about this kind of formation now.

Suggest what is more feasible jare.


Oga, abeg, no vex for my late reply. bacause i no go fit handle two arguments should incase this one turns to another. grin grin grin grin


Beside, I have been very busy.



Well, I doing this just to squeez Joel Obi into the team. However, since both Joel Obi and Victor Moses are conversant with 3-5-2 formation, we can change formation if we are in search of a goal by removing the left back to accomodate Joel Obi. grin

But we must try out the formation in a friendly before considering it in an important tournament.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:40pm On Feb 21, 2017
Icon4s:


This is a very realistic list. Not the type of fantasy list forgiveness keeps rolling out grin


Hehehehehe! My list dey realistic die. grin grin grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:41pm On Feb 21, 2017
Icon4s:


There is no sincerity in ur list of you don't consider Emmanuel Daniel as part of our young goalie prospects.

Where em dey play? grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:44pm On Feb 21, 2017
Icon4s:


Firstly before I do any rating or ranking of SUPER EAGLES PLAYERS FIGHTING FOR POSITION I would expunge those names I bolded.

Reason you and I know very well. Their nationality issues have not been sorted out, Until then.... undecided

I would nt plan to work based on what I dnt have.


Most of them will surely play for Nigeria if we are truly seriou about getting them.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 9:46pm On Feb 21, 2017
Concerning the 3-5-2, 3-4-3 formations.
I'm with Sir Icon4s on this.

Playing a 3 defenders, 2WBs in africa is risky. We don't have discipline players who can execute such tactics. Forget club football. National teams don't have enough time training, working out n perfecting things before matches-like what clubs have. These guys are mostly camped for a week and thats too small to teach dem d rudiments of such tactics.

Countries mostly play such setups in tournaments n not qualifiers-an example is d dutch team under d tutelage of LVG.

Apart from time n discipline factors, the intensity of african football is high. Even victor Moses who is arguably d best WB we have won't cope. Or may be u ppl are thinking he is going to pose the same performance we see him do every wk for Chelsea? I doubt t the Victor I know is not discipline enough in d green white green and to those suggesting Madu, Ndidi n so on for LWB na one eye i de use look una...

We better stick to our conventional formation of 4 defenders and twist whatever we want to twist in the midfield n attack if we no wan chop goals. e go do us like comedy that day cos me no even know d players we wan use execute am is it d ones who can't even command a starting shirt in their respective clubs-NO PROBLEM in PMB's voice.
(anyway, t will be an interesting match to watch).

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 9:52pm On Feb 21, 2017
forgiveness:


Oga, abeg, no vex for my late reply. bacause i no go fit handle two arguments should incase this one turns to another. grin grin grin grin


Beside, I have been very busy.



Well, I doing this just to squeez Joel Obi into the team. However, since both Joel Obi and Victor Moses are conversant with 3-5-2 formation, we can change formation if we are in search of a goal by removing the left back to accomodate Joel Obi. grin

But we must try out the formation in a friendly before considering it in an important tournament.
you won't stop amazing me.

Remove LB to accomodate who? Joel Obi?baba this is no club football where u have enough time to correct ur mistakes in d next league game.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:54pm On Feb 21, 2017
Icon4s:


Is it the same Omatsone Aluko or another one.

Nna men. The guy don turn Super Man?

Sone Aluko was a player who showed the usefulness of a creative playmaker in front of a tough wall. His role in the revitalization of Keshi's team was down to this. However, we never gave Aluko a chance to help the Super Eagles succeed.

Even before the exploits of Aluko in the Championship, I repeatedly called for his inclusion in the team. Also keep in mind that winning the Championship player of the month is not easy.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:58pm On Feb 21, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Sone Aluko was a player who showed the usefulness of a creative playmaker in front of a tough wall. His role in the revitalization of Keshi's team was down to this. However, we never gave Aluko a chance to help the Super Eagles succeed.

Even before the exploits of Aluko in the Championship, I repeatedly called for his inclusion in the team. Also keep in mind that winning the Championship player of the month is not easy.

Oh boy, what is happening to City?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:02pm On Feb 21, 2017
forgiveness:
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

Some people no dey sabi see better player. grin grin grin grin grin

I remembered I had heated arguments with many people here, Thegoodjoe been the ring leader, condemned Falcao. They said if Solanke was good enough, Chelsea should not had brought dead Falcao to Chelsea.. grin grin grin grin grin grin

You see as he dey nak apako for Man City net. grin

The same thing is just happening now, Tiago Ilori no good, alluded by some people. grin grin grin grin grin

Please, no oone condemned Falcao but pointed out that Chelsea preferred an unfit Falcao to Solanke. I wonder how Falcao scoring City has anything to do with Solanke.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:06pm On Feb 21, 2017
tbaba1234:


Oh boy, what is happening to City?

You will not believe I am missing the game.

By the way, Monaco are in fine form, scoring lots of goals and sit on top of the Ligue 1 table. This is a Champions League game and we should expect tough encounters.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:07pm On Feb 21, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


You will not believe I am missing the game.

By the way, Monaco are in fine form, scoring lots of goals and sit on top of the Ligue 1 table. This is a Champions League game and we should expect tough encounters.

They dominate possession but Monaco is creating all the chances.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:12pm On Feb 21, 2017
Falcao is a different player. Shows what confidence can do for a player.. Strikers especially need confidence.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:20pm On Feb 21, 2017
tbaba1234:
Falcao is a different player. Shows what confidence can do for a player.. Striker especially need confidence.

I doubt we should just write it down to confidence. Sometimes, we neglect to consider the amount of hard work players like this put on the training field to get back their form. Also, coaches have strategies and tactics that bring out the best in a player.

There are players who flourish in a system and flop in another system.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:21pm On Feb 21, 2017
Icon4s:
@ Forgiveness,

Starting with your Left and Right Wing players.

I would personally put them in a pool of wingers. Reason being in today's football, wingers alternate positions during the course of a game. They also alternate with the central attacking midfielders.

You listed in this pool Victor Moses, Simon Moses, Isaac Success, Ahmed Musa, Imoh Ezekiel, Sone Aluko and Noel Joel Sarenren Bazee .
I would add to this pool Alex Iwobi and Oghenekaro Etebo (these are wingers too).

My starting wings choices if Iwobi would play the AM role would be Etebo and Moses. If Etebo plays the midfield role he played against Algeria then Iwobi and Moses are by far my first choice. Ahmed Musa and Moses Simon come next in my rating. I would personally want to include Isaac Success in the pool of strikers and would prefer to see Aluko in the central AM position.

As for Imoh the squad is too loaded for him to break in for now and as for Noel Bazee, I am not the type that rate or hype a player I dnt know so well.

First of all, I agree, wingers alternate positions during the course of a game, therefore, they should lump together as Winger.

However, I don't rate Iwobi and Etebo as good wingers because I have seen Iwobi made no impact in that position with the National team and Arsenal while I have never seen Etebo played in that position. Though, I may likely consider Iwobi if we play 4-3-3 formation.

Hence, My choice will revolve among the remaining players though you exempted some due to '?' hanging on their nationality. grin That one no mean say I agree with you ooooo on that issue. grin



In a 4-2-3-1, my starting wing choice are Victor and Success. Success because the guy his good and my second choice will be Aluko and Ahmed. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:21pm On Feb 21, 2017
tbaba1234:


They dominate possession but Monaco is creating all the chances.

Well, Jardim has been a fine Counter attacking coach.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:23pm On Feb 21, 2017
forgiveness:


First of all, I agree, wingers alternate positions during the course of a game, therefore, they should lump together as Winger.

However, I don't rate Iwobi and Etebo as good wingers because I have seen Iwobi made no impact in that position with the National team and Arsenal while I have never seen Etebo played in that position. Though, I may likely consider Iwobi if we play 4-3-3 formation.

Hence, My choice will revolve among the remaining players though you exempted some due to '?' hanging on their nationality. grin That one no mean say I agree with you ooooo on that issue. grin



In a 4-2-3-1, my starting wing choice are Victor and Success. Success because the guy his good and my second choice will be Aluko and Ahmed. grin






Iwobi make no impact on the wing? Saying that is shocking when Iwobi broke into the Arsenal team playing on the wings and pulled off brilliant performances.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:23pm On Feb 21, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Please, no oone condemned Falcao but pointed out that Chelsea preferred an unfit Falcao to Solanke. I wonder how Falcao scoring City has anything to do with Solanke.

Do you want me to dig out those comments? grin grin grin grin grin grin

The regetted stone is now become the corner stone. chai! grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:29pm On Feb 21, 2017
forgiveness:


Do you want me to dig out those comments? grin grin grin grin grin grin

The regetted stone is now become the corner stone. chai! grin

Dig which comment. Falcao was not in form and was not fit. Yet, Chelsea preferred him to Solanke. Is there anything wrong in this statement?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:29pm On Feb 21, 2017
I missed a brilliant game.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jotey(m): 10:30pm On Feb 21, 2017
5 - 3
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:36pm On Feb 21, 2017
Icon4s:
@ Forgiveness

For your center forward position.

You put in this pool: Aaron Samuel, Brown Ideye, Sadiq Umar, Olanrewaju Kayode, Fenan Adi. I would add to this pool Odion Ighalo and Kelechi Iheanacho.

In a typical 4-5-1 formation which we know the national team has come to be very comfortable and conversant with only one center forward plays.

My pick here is Kelechi Iheanacho.
I place Ideye and Ighalo as joint second choices but closely followed by Kayode. Then Adi comes next. Sadiq is young and may not be able to compete with the older boys for now. But he is for future consideration. I put him in the same pool with Victor Osimhen, Taiwo Awoniyi, Chidera Ezeh and Kingsley Michael.


I don;t know why my mind is no longer with Ighalo after his move to China. I just want him out of the team.

Instead, I will bring Obafemi Martins back into the team. grin Suprised!? grin

I will never consider Iheancho in that 4-5-1 formation because he is best utilized as a second striker.

In a 4-4-1-1 formation, Iheancho can be deployed behind the striker but as a point man, it is a no for me. grin

i will prefer Aaron as my first choice, followed by Ideye. grin Martins Obafemi may come in. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:38pm On Feb 21, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Dig which comment. Falcao was not in form and was not fit. Yet, Chelsea preferred him to Solanke. Is there anything wrong in this statement?


How you and the rest condemned and rubbished Falcao. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:43pm On Feb 21, 2017
forgiveness:



How you and the rest condemned and rubbished Falcao. grin

Falcao was in terrible form at Chelsea and Manchester United. What did you want us to do, call him Suarez? If he improves, we say he has improved. The fact is that Chelsea preferred an unfit Falcao to Solanke.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:54pm On Feb 21, 2017
Icon4s:
@ Forgiveness,

For your Attacking Midfielder/Supporting strikers.

You put in this pool: Alex Iwobi, Kelechi Iheanacho, Oghenekaro Etebo, Abdul Ajagun, Rabiu Ibrahim. I would also include Sone Aluko and Mikel Obi as part of the pool of AMs.

I have already picked Iheanacho as my preferred CF and Etebo as one of my first choice wingers. Alex Iwobi would be my first pick here.

Mikel has done creditably well in that AM position but I still prefer him in a more central midfield role. Sone Aluko was my first choice AM before Oliseh came and brought Silvester Igboun. I was one of those that seriously complained abt Aluko's exclusion, But Iwobi is here now and Aluko has to be second choice for me. If Etebo is to play this role I would also prefer him over Aluko.

As for Ajagun, the comepetition for that position is such that and I dnt see Rohr or any of the coaches considering him for now. The fact also that all the players listed in this pool can play that AM role in addition to 1 or 2 other positions. Iwobi, Aluko, Mikel, Iheanacho are Etebo all utility players that bring more to the team apart from the AM role. Rabiu Ibrahim is like a kabu-kabu that you kick start and when you engage to drive it switches off again. No chance for him.

We typically play a 4-5-1 and if we need to switch to a 4-4-2 we consider a supporting striker. This is a position Iheanacho, Success and Etebo can play wella. Ahmed Musa can also play as an SS.

My number one choice is Iwobi, followed by Iheanacho(depending on the formation). Etebor is another good option on the S/S position.

Ajagun needs to be invited to fight for a shirt and to also make him get familiar with the way the national team plays, should incase of injury, as we have always witnessed before any of our world cup.

That Rabiu Ibrahim case just tire me. I don't know wetin dey do am. Maybe na wetin you take discribe am na em, e be.

@bolded is spot on, just that I will remove Success and replace it with Joel Noel Bazee. Success is no longer the striker you use to know at the U17 level. e no sabi score well again. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:55pm On Feb 21, 2017
I pointed out How Aguero was brilliant in our last game against Huddersfield. Even though he did not score, he showed immense quality dropping deep to help the team. Just like what I expect from Nacho. The comment below is from the Bluemoon forum.


Sergio is finished my fucking arse. MOTM, never stopped running, tracked back like a 'Pep' player and the second was shear class. Form is temporary, class is permanent.

Aguero showed improvement despite Limited playing time.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:58pm On Feb 21, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Falcao was in terrible form at Chelsea and Manchester United. What did you want us to do, call him Suarez? If he improves, we say he has improved. The fact is that Chelsea preferred an unfit Falcao to Solanke.


There is nothing you can say again to save face. breeze don blow, foul yan don show. grin

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