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Re: The NBA Begins by Muna15: 8:54pm On Mar 01, 2017
Eruditor:



Can you count or is counting a fantasy as well?

You already called it a quip cheesy
Re: The NBA Begins by Muna15: 8:59pm On Mar 01, 2017
Eruditor:


So when did KD teams having those players become better than Lebron teams? I am listening.


Kindly refer to the post by lolawilliams on this same issue. She made reference to some data and I think that would be helpful.
Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 9:11pm On Mar 01, 2017
Muna15:


Kindly refer to the post by lolawilliams on this same issue. She made reference to some data and I think that would be helpful.

Which Bron team is weak? The one that got to NBA finals in 2007? 66 wins and conference finals 2009? Miami heat of 2011-2014? Cavs of 2015- till date?

Be careful where you get your data from. A couple greenhorns are posting stats that have no bearing to the discourse.
Re: The NBA Begins by lolawilliams(f): 9:38pm On Mar 01, 2017
Muna15:


Kindly refer to the post by lolawilliams on this same issue. She made reference to some data and I think that would be helpful.

Lool. Ive never been a tenderfoot buttthurt fan bragging, we know them. I think they forget their national anthem. The East Is Weak. A 2009 Okc team with Durant leading the league in scoring, Westbrook avg 20.5 points, 6.0 rebounds, 6.0 assists and 3.2 steals and Okc having 50 wins and only 7 wins separated the Western Conference #1 seed Couldn't beat LeBron for once in the weak east as they say. I don't need any tyro quote directed to me. keep on the argument, im enjoying it. We talking about Cavs team then, tf talking bout Heats nd The current Cavs, tcheew smh

I don't know when Cavs had 66 wins in 2009 sef, Lool smh. Even the tenderfoots lowkey lie to us. smh
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 11:58pm On Mar 01, 2017
lolawilliams:


Clippers won't do anything, We know them well. but if he doesnt comes back during playoffs. Wester conf finals is Spurs VS Rockets

I know right...I can only hope
Re: The NBA Begins by Muna15: 12:14am On Mar 02, 2017
Eruditor:


Which Bron team is weak? The one that got to NBA finals in 2007? 66 wins and conference finals 2009? Miami heat of 2011-2014? Cavs of 2015- till date?

Be careful where you get your data from. A couple greenhorns are posting stats that have no bearing to the discourse.


The first time KD won against LeBron was 2011 and he's currently 5-18 against LeBron.

It might also be interesting to tell you that KD never won a single game against LeBron during LeBron's first spell with the cavs. Four out of the five wins came when LeBron was in Miami. So, it goes beyond just the team.

The lady was actually correct and you could have done better if you had supported your argument with facts instead of allowing your emotion run through your fingers.
Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 12:55am On Mar 02, 2017
Muna15:



The first time KD won against LeBron was 2011 and he's currently 5-18 against LeBron.

It might also be interesting to tell you that KD never won a single game against LeBron during LeBron's first spell with the cavs. Four out of the five wins came when LeBron was in Miami. So, it goes beyond just the team.

The lady was actually correct and you could have done better if you had supported your argument with facts instead of allowing your emotion run through your fingers.

If you are looking for an exercise to improve your reading ability perhaps my posts won't be a good place to start. If you are looking to exchange asinine posts as well, you can do that with the lady and keep the house entertained.

Some dolt says KD has a bad record against Lebron (the person is attempting to extrapolate that record into GSW to justify why she doesn't fear him). I say to you that LeBron's teams have historically been better than KDs until GSW. You try to bring up WestBrook and Ibaka but even you know that's garbage. To remind you why that is, I play you LeBron's tape from Cleveland (first time) until last season. Why are you then referring me to more hot garbage from said dolt?

Were Seattle Supersonics going to beat Lebron's Cavs that played Spurs in 07 NBA finals; Had 66 wins in 08/09 and played a conference final? Was OKC (with fledglings like Harden, WB and Ibaka) going to have a better head to head record against Lebron and his Miami Super team? Did Lebron come back to a talentless Cavs team that had worse players than KD and WB did in OKC?

So WTF are you telling me about facts?

See, I'd appreciate it if you limited my exchange with you to what you had to offer or better still, just ignore. I am great either ways.

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Re: The NBA Begins by SIRcumalot: 1:17am On Mar 02, 2017
Embid is done for the season shocked.
The process is never not going to be injured at this point.
Durability na something for this league.
Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 1:24am On Mar 02, 2017
Muna15:


No! I've never been scared of a Durant-led team. He's got an awful record against LeBron and It would be interesting to see them go head-2-head in the finals. We were not able to see a Kobe-LeBron finals, So a LeBron-Durant finals will certainly be a joy to watch.
You mean you didnt flinch in KD joining the Warriors?? Or you're right not proved how happy you are that he might not get a chance at the playoffs? That's a lie but I'll take your words for it.
Either way, Pro analysts know Warriors have slimmer chance with his absence you may think otherwise since you claim you ain't scared. Cavs had to match the Warriors and add players cos they know they aren't enough to repeat and you claim you ain't scared if Durant was there. Either your confidence is that high in LeBron/the Eastern Conference or LeBron or you think KD has always been a no factor. We're talking KD in Warriors not OKC.

As for East vs West, last 6 years has always been between Cavs and Heat in the East and have always been lopsided (Wade, Bosh, Allen) no one stood a chance and yes LeBron has been that good. Basically no team had always worried LeBron in the East until it's the finals. The Western teams have to worry about Spurs, Clippers, OKC and Warriors and now teams like Rockets, Utah except you think Raptors Celtics and Pacers (2013) have always put up a good fight. Until the playoffs where I'm having little faith in Skywalker's Celtics and Raptors to put up competition, it's pound for pound in the West.
Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 1:26am On Mar 02, 2017
SIRcumalot:
Embid is done for the season shocked.
The process is never not going to be injured at this point.
Durability na something for this league.
shocked Serious?? You sure they aren't tanking again?? I was trusting the process already.
Re: The NBA Begins by SIRcumalot: 1:39am On Mar 02, 2017
SmooshCHN:
shocked Serious?? You sure they aren't tanking again?? I was trusting the process already.
I just seem am for twitter.
The process is there but the body isn't it always going to be something.this time some kind of meniscus tear.
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 4:17am On Mar 02, 2017
The officiating might confuse an onlooker to believe this is the Quicken Loans Arena.

Referee, weldone sir!!
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 4:21am On Mar 02, 2017
Here we go with another horrendous out of bound call against the Celtics.
#weldonesir
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 4:36am On Mar 02, 2017
My goodness!!! Uncle Drew has got the sickest handle.
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 4:39am On Mar 02, 2017
Roland17:
My goodness!!! Uncle Drew has got the sickest handle.

floated like forever..his feet almost touched the ground before he released the ball. good game to watch. win has to feel good for celtics. cavs will probably brush this one off and say team is trying to gel with new cast
Re: The NBA Begins by SIRcumalot: 4:41am On Mar 02, 2017
that three by IT mehn.

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Re: The NBA Begins by SIRcumalot: 4:42am On Mar 02, 2017
great win celtics.
deron shots will fall next time
Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 4:56am On Mar 02, 2017
Roland17:
Here we go with another horrendous out of bound call against the Celtics.
#weldonesir
SIRcumalot:
that three by IT mehn.
That shot sank people's heart.. Ice cold grin The Celtics' got a large heart tbh.. They just need to play like it during the PO
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 6:11am On Mar 02, 2017
A triple double that counts for nothing grin
Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 8:39am On Mar 02, 2017
sapiosexual1:
A triple double that counts for nothing grin

People have had Triple doubles in losses. You don't have to shine your teeth cos it's Lebron.

My 3 favorite players currently are Jokic, Wall and Kawhi. I can't get enough of them, mehnnnnnnn.
Re: The NBA Begins by Muna15: 8:59am On Mar 02, 2017
Decale:



My 3 favorite players currently are Jokic, Wall and Kawhi. I can't get enough of them, mehnnnnnnn.

What of Townsend and DeRozan? Those guys dey ball, abeg!
Re: The NBA Begins by Muna15: 9:02am On Mar 02, 2017
Eruditor:



Some dolt says KD has a bad record against Lebron (the person is attempting to extrapolate that record into GSW to justify why she doesn't fear him). I say to you that LeBron's teams have historically been better than KDs until GSW. You try to bring up WestBrook and Ibaka but even you know that's garbage. To remind you why that is, I play you LeBron's tape from Cleveland (first time) until last season. Why are you then referring me to more hot garbage from said dolt?

Were Seattle Supersonics going to beat Lebron's Cavs that played Spurs in 07 NBA finals; Had 66 wins in 08/09 and played a conference final? Was OKC (with fledglings like Harden, WB and Ibaka) going to have a better head to head record against Lebron and his Miami Super team? Did Lebron come back to a talentless Cavs team that had worse players than KD and WB did in OKC?

So WTF are you telling me about facts?

Dwade has won more games against LeBron since LeBron left Miami. But does that mean Dwade has been on better teams that LeBron?

KD averages 29.4ppg on 48%FG/7r/3.5a against LeBron and LeBron is averaging 29.4ppg on 52%/7r/7a/2.2s against him. This shows KD plays well against LeBron but LeBron often plays better.

And remember that everyone expects the best player on their team to lead them to victory no matter who they are playing against.

So as I said earlier, It goes beyond just the team. We've got see it as a kind of rivalry.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Muna15: 9:29am On Mar 02, 2017
@SmooshCHN
You mean you didnt flinch in KD joining the Warriors??
I was surprised to see KD join the warriors but I've got nothing against GSW. You had the space and resources and you went for him.

Or you're right not proved how happy you are that he might not get a chance at the playoffs?
I said it before and I would like to say it again. I enjoy seeing great guys go head-2-head in finals and It'll be interesting to see a KD-LeBron finals but your comments show we're both watching Basketball with different mindset and energy.

That's a lie
You've concluded already and I think it's unreasonable to continue with this argument.
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 10:51am On Mar 02, 2017
I didn't know the Wizards landed Bogdanovic. That's a steal. And looks like they are getting Jennings. Very good job Scott Brooks has done so far. I was one of his biggest critics at OKC but it appyas the guy knows his onions
Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 10:54am On Mar 02, 2017
Muna15:


Dwade has won more games against LeBron since LeBron left Miami. But does that mean Dwade has been on better teams that LeBron?

KD averages 29.4ppg on 48%FG/7r/3.5a against LeBron and LeBron is averaging 29.4ppg on 52%/7r/7a/2.2s against him. This shows KD plays well against LeBron but LeBron often plays better.

And remember that everyone expects the best player on their team to lead them to victory no matter who they are playing against.

So as I said earlier, It goes beyond just the team. We've got see it as a kind of rivalry.

Lebron is marginally better than KD. I agree. But that's just about it. Every match-up is different and a lot of things need to be considered instead of just simplistically zeroing it down to W and L records. Sonics were so bad when KD was drafted that they couldn't beat anything even with a drum. Everyone knows KD is the most efficient scorer the league may have ever seen so that he puts up good numbers is immaterial. All I am asking you to do is critically look at his teams and juxtapose them with LeBron's, you'd see he barely stood a chance.

For instance, there were a couple of times he lost and put up big numbers because Russell was injured. What magic was he going to perform? We can all see Russell carrying his team on his back yet he has picked 3 Ls against GSW and we know it is because in reality he stands no chance. If by some sort of serendipity Russell picks a couple Ws against GSW everyone will blame Kerr and his team more than give OKC credit so it doesn't matter if the Heats with Wade seemed to beat Cavs more often than not, if they met in the Playoffs it would have been a sweep.

This is a side note, but what I find funny is how people want to defend LeBron's first stint in Cleveland and say he didn't have a good team hence the Ls he racked playoff time but if I mention KD not having a better team than Lebron, (hence the poor H2H) they say how he is talented and should be galvanizing his team to wins regardless of the opposition. Very funny I tell you.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 10:59am On Mar 02, 2017
A40:
When I say Horford na offensive liability I know wetin I see wey make me talk am. A marquee free agent can't be dropping 9pts in a game like that. Its unacceptable


The guy can play. He's a 3 and D guy and can also slash to the hoop. On a good day he can drop 12-15pts on anyone. He can also antagonize and cause trouble so Draymond would love him. If K.D is back before playoff time then Barnes helps their depth big time.

Horford is puzzling. I feel he can be doing more but I don't know what difference his more will make. I am just worried that I still feel Cleveland will sweep most of these teams playoff time thus giving them more rest than whoever comes out from the west.

As per Matt Barnes, the only thing I am happy about is his enthusiasm to play for us. We can't afford to have 2 troublesome players come playoff time.
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 11:28am On Mar 02, 2017
Eruditor:

Horford is puzzling. I feel he can be doing more but I don't know what difference his more will make. I am just worried that I still feel Cleveland will sweep most of these teams playoff time thus giving them more rest than whoever comes out from the west.

As per Matt Barnes, the only thing I am happy about is his enthusiasm to play for us. We can't afford to have 2 troublesome players come playoff time.
He's a passive big who is efficient but of what use is the efficiency when he isn't taking enough shots. He typically goes ghost in the 4th and I still think the Celtics are giving a 5'9 IT far too much of a load to carry and I hope he doesn't breakdown. Horford's production is too poor to be on a max deal, Jae Crowder is their 2nd best player rn. Horford needs to do more and for me he has been suspect since last year and the year vs the Cavs.

Barnes is a solid addition. He would add more grit and grime. And you can be sure he no go allow Lebron chance Curry if they meet in the playoffs. In the meantime guys like Green need to step up in K.D's absence. Those 4-7pts pattern won't fly. Yeah he does it all but he should be targeting a 13pt a game avg
Re: The NBA Begins by geebril(m): 1:17pm On Mar 02, 2017
SIRcumalot:
Embid is done for the season shocked.
The process is never not going to be injured at this point.
Durability na something for this league.
lets hope Jahlil Okafor fills the void
Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 2:00pm On Mar 02, 2017
geebril:

lets hope Jahlil Okafor fills the void
That guy na waste. Their last two games he's been so passive and his defense has been very poor
Re: The NBA Begins by SmooshCHN: 6:21pm On Mar 02, 2017
Just in

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Re: The NBA Begins by geebril(m): 9:27pm On Mar 02, 2017
SmooshCHN:
That guy na waste. Their last two games he's been so passive and his defense has been very poor
Duh coach should make him watch Embiid clips!



"Trust the process"

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