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Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by Nobody: 1:02am On Mar 17, 2017
Obaluf0n:



Another emotional tirade.

Benin did not come close to Ibadan in military might.

Benin did not hold a candle to Oyo Empire economically & militarily.

Benin, since its inception, does not hold a torch to Ife in monarchy, arts & area of influence.

According to: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benin_Empire



Note that the wikipedia page was clearly written and edited by Bini people. And according to them but in more explicit terms, the Bini areas of influence at its 'maximum extent' i.e military peak covered just:

Ondo - Akoko areas.

Ibo land - Onitsha area.

Lagos - Obalende & Island.

Are these all that the super Bini kings could acquire? Like seriously? grin cheesy

Here is a research conducted by an independent & neutral researcher.
You ain't that bright after all
you said and i quote
"Bini throne is overrated. The installation procession of a throne tells a lot about the historical relevance it holds. A quick look at the installation procession of the Bini throne and the reverence accorded to it by the Bini shows it is an exagerrated seat. Outside of Bini does not commands respect or influence & it has no lasting imprint anywhere outside Bini & except for few towns around it."

So i ask you 'What in the procession to the throne shows exaggeration'?
'which are two most prominent monarchs today'?
'Are the places ''Ondo - Akoko areas. Ibo land - Onitsha area. Lagos - Obalende & Island" and up to Benin republic few towns around Benin?

Guess u don't even know the Benin conquered up to Benin republic, and you must also be very delusional to think a Benin person wrote that shit on wikipedia that is subject to change any day anytime....that shit has been corrected alot of times buh it keeps changing cos u yorubas dnt just seem to be able to come to terms with the fact that we re indeed greater than you..

You must be very naive to think a stupid article backed by some dirty minds from the west in collaboration with a white who doesn't even know his roots yet will come down here and give you accurate result about your roots and you believe him cos he has a white skin, What were his methods of research?, where did he visit, whi did he ask?what gave him those notions? and what proofs does he have of those lies spilled by some yorubas who think themselves so educated to always twist history just to suite themselves cos they cant come to fact that we are greater than them


Your ooni oranmiyan story is so faulted even a primary school pupil will sense the naivity of the writer....

Come back and present viable facts and proofs When you are ready to be objective and read quality materials not those penned by your tribesman........ Before i go i recommend you go check out the meaning of an empire...



NB: Check up an English dictionary not a yoruba dictionary

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Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by Nobody: 1:03am On Mar 17, 2017
Maydfourth:
Please let us not distort history...Ooni is not a king...Please go and get ur facts together...Ooni was a chief priest to Oduduwa and was in charge of all the deities in Ife land...He was never a child of Oduduwa and not entitled to rule ..He was assigned to keep the home when Oduduwa died and none of his children were around since they have gone to sojourn and capture other territories for themselves...Please don't say that OONI is a king in the presence of a a true OYO PRINCE...Ask anybody what is the meaning of Arole Odua...
what are you saying.
after all of oranmiyans sojourn. Did he not return to ife to become king? how come the current and past ooni trace their ancestry to oranmiyan?
I am sure you have also heard about the opa oranmiyan in ife which was erected when he was an ooni.

what led to the decline of oyo empire? the then alaafin abiodun called for the head of baale apomu, which was subject to the Ooni.
The ooni placed a curse on the Alaafin which put an abrupt end to oyo empire.

The original oduduwa/obalufon crown still belongs to the heirs of oranmiyan in ife, which is only won by the ooni on Olojo day. why the alaafin or obokun no go claim am?

The alaafin, alaketu, owo obokun e.t.c are in the same category but the ooni is their father.

Head of an Ife King.

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Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by ayourbamie: 1:11am On Mar 17, 2017
lightwind:
Which side are you in Ifako Ijaye pls
Iju ishaga/obawole
Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by jflexy(m): 1:23am On Mar 17, 2017
laurel03:
aside Obi of onitsha... Igbo no get any first class oba... but ur list no complete sha...Awujale Alake etc

Igbos are ruled by a Council of Chiefs known as the ozo no need for kings
Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by Chiefpriest(m): 1:29am On Mar 17, 2017
Amarabae:
NONSENSE LIST.
where is
1.Obong of Calabar
2. Tor Tiv
3. Attah of Igala etc
what is dein of agbor? Who knows him and the village he rule.
Ignorance is really a dangerous disease. Google Dein of Agbor.
Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by shinel(f): 1:40am On Mar 17, 2017
Maydfourth:
Please let us not distort history...Ooni is not a king...Please go and get ur facts together...Ooni was a chief priest to Oduduwa and was in charge of all the deities in Ife land...He was never a child of Oduduwa and not entitled to rule ..He was assigned to keep the home when Oduduwa died and none of his children were around since they have gone to sojourn and capture other territories for themselves...Please don't say that OONI is a king in the presence of a a true OYO PRINCE...Ask anybody what is the meaning of Arole Odua...

What trash are you saying? I read history a bit for a novice like you to convince me.

Oduduwa represents omnipotency.

And Oduduwa was the first Ooni, King of Ile Ife with the titles (Olofin).

Ooni is not in the class of any King in Yoruba Land.

Ooni is an ancestor with a place of his own.

Are you not seeing the Crown Ooni is wearing? Or do I need to start narrating or tutoring you with Yoruba signs and symbols?

Please take your time o!

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Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by chinweze93(m): 2:30am On Mar 17, 2017
Obi of onitsha is king in onitsha and only onitsha. In Enugu, imo, abia, ebonyi, he is not regarded as a king and has no subjects, either over other kings or the populace, pls stop d misrepresentation. Almost each town has an eze. In Enugu, we so not know anyone by d name of obi of anywhere. Unless u mean some other kind of influence.
Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by AreaFada2: 3:36am On Mar 17, 2017
wolfofallstreet:
Where does the Deji of Akure belong to ?

Not to mention Olowo of Owo.

In colonial times, Shehu of Borno was rated next to Sultan of Sokoto.

Then Op forgot Emir of Bida (Etsu Nupe) & Emir of Zazzau/Zaria.

Though some kings were only recently elevated to first class. Politics.

It is like Federal universities, there are first, second, third generation and so on.
Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by AreaFada2: 4:22am On Mar 17, 2017
peterpen:

You ain't that bright after all
you said and i quote
"Bini throne is overrated. The installation procession of a throne tells a lot about the historical relevance it holds. A quick look at the installation procession of the Bini throne and the reverence accorded to it by the Bini shows it is an exagerrated seat. Outside of Bini does not commands respect or influence & it has no lasting imprint anywhere outside Bini & except for few towns around it."

So i ask you 'What in the procession to the throne shows exaggeration'?
'which are two most prominent monarchs today'?
'Are the places ''Ondo - Akoko areas. Ibo land - Onitsha area. Lagos - Obalende & Island" and up to Benin republic few towns around Benin?

Guess u don't even know the Benin conquered up to Benin republic, and you must also be very delusional to think a Benin person wrote that shit on wikipedia that is subject to change any day anytime....that shit has been corrected alot of times buh it keeps changing cos u yorubas dnt just seem to be able to come to terms with the fact that we re indeed greater than you..

You must be very naive to think a stupid article backed by some dirty minds from the west in collaboration with a white who doesn't even know his roots yet will come down here and give you accurate result about your roots and you believe him cos he has a white skin, What were his methods of research?, where did he visit, whi did he ask?what gave him those notions? and what proofs does he have of those lies spilled by some yorubas who think themselves so educated to always twist history just to suite themselves cos they cant come to fact that we are greater than them


Your ooni oranmiyan story is so faulted even a primary school pupil will sense the naivity of the writer....

Come back and present viable facts and proofs When you are ready to be objective and read quality materials not those penned by your tribesman........ Before i go i recommend you go check out the meaning of an empire...

NB: Check up an English dictionary not a yoruba dictionary
Look, there is now a dedicated crop of SW pseudo intellectuals doing their utmost to denigrate Benin history.

They have seen that even without Oba Benin travelling up & down to North & South America, Europe and whatnot, Benin history keeps coming up on Western TV. Like BBC frequently showing Benin in documentaries. Without any lobby.

Their kids in diaspora report that alongside ancient Egypt, they were taught History of Benin Empire in school. As part of African history. They are worried about the prominence of our history.

So they have began a long term strategy of revisionism. We cannot ignore them anymore because they are trying very hard.

Look at what another SW person wrote:

Maydfourth:
Please let us not distort history...Ooni is not a king...Please go and get ur facts together...Ooni was a chief priest to Oduduwa and was in charge of all the deities in Ife land...He was never a child of Oduduwa and not entitled to rule ..He was assigned to keep the home when Oduduwa died and none of his children were around since they have gone to sojourn and capture other territories for themselves...Please don't say that OONI is a king in the presence of a a true OYO PRINCE...Ask anybody what is the meaning of Arole Odua...


Even among SW people, there's controversy over Ooni matter. But some are still honest enough to say it as they know it. Whether Mayfourth is right or wrong, I do not know. But I have heard his version from others many times before. However, most are closing ranks to gradually kill this version. Desperate to close the "Grand Canyon" chasm in their ever-changing stories/versions.

They have been arguing that Oduduwa was not a Benin Prince. But we know the truth. We also know that his son Oranmiyan came to Benin. And later to other places. When did he return to Ife to become Ooni? Even if he returned, it doesn't mean that he became King. Was Ooni stool just there waiting for him considering that usurpation was common then?

Could the chief Priest actually have deputized and later took the throne? If he did, with time, his descendants would have tried to legitimise it by claiming blood ties with Oduduwa. Most Arab Kings today claim blood links to Prophet Mohammed (PBUH).

In Benin, even Evian's (chosen city leader in the absence of an Ogiso/heir) son Ogiamien tried usurping the throne in Benin but failed, because Benin people fiercely resisted & Oranmiyan came.

Benin people's resistance was understandable because Ogiso dynasty had over 33 Kings previously. Around 1,000 years of existence from about 40 BC. It was well-established already. Whereas Oduduwa dynasty was only very recent and therefore even much more prone to usurpation.

They have many stories from their Benin History Denial Centre (BHDC) but very watery as usual.

When some of them cannot come up with a credible narrative, they begin to swear & use gutter language like agbero. cheesy grin

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Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by giles14(m): 5:23am On Mar 17, 2017
ruggedized1:
Obi of Onitsha is the most powerful stool east of Niger and most educated and most refined king in Nigeria.

Igwe Alfred Nnaemeka Achebe.
pls don't let amadioha strike .
the most powerful is eze NRI then aro of arochukwu then igwe Nnewi.

obi of Onitsha is just the most popular.

less u forget its the obi nnewi b4 he was couped that crowned the first obi of Onitsha.
Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by Bibi294(f): 5:32am On Mar 17, 2017
cheesy cheesy
Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by Bibi294(f): 5:32am On Mar 17, 2017
All kings are powerful... Empty barrels make the loudest noises. Leave all this histories for history joo. One of the problems we have as Nigerians is we don't love our own. Any topic must attract tribalism... But why? OP made his list... You can open your thread and make yours or rather criticize constructively abi which kind wahala be this?
Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by MONITZ: 5:32am On Mar 17, 2017
Jacksparr0w127:
My town King is a First Class King


Perhaps op listed the few he's aware of cuz I could count 10 First Class Kings in my state


Really, that ur state must be bigger than the country then, I need to know that state asap...
Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by NkayTiana(f): 5:39am On Mar 17, 2017
Please get updated.... oba of Benin is not Erediauwa but Oba Ewuare II.. you are wrong

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Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by Nobody: 5:54am On Mar 17, 2017
AreaFada2:

Look, there is now a dedicated crop of SW pseudo intellectuals doing their utmost to denigrate Benin history.

They have seen that even without Oba Benin travelling up & down to North & South America, Europe and whatnot, Benin history keeps coming up on Western TV. Like BBC frequently showing Benin in documentaries. Without any lobby.

Their kids in diaspora report that alongside ancient Egypt, they were taught History of Benin Empire in school. As part of African history. They are worried about the prominence of our history.

So they have began a long term strategy of revisionism. We cannot ignore them anymore because they are trying very hard.

Look at what another SW person wrote:

Maydfourth:
Please let us not distort history...Ooni is not a king...Please go and get ur facts together...Ooni was a chief priest to Oduduwa and was in charge of all the deities in Ife land...He was never a child of Oduduwa and not entitled to rule ..He was assigned to keep the home when Oduduwa died and none of his children were around since they have gone to sojourn and capture other territories for themselves...Please don't say that OONI is a king in the presence of a a true OYO PRINCE...Ask anybody what is the meaning of Arole Odua...


Even among SW people, there's controversy over Ooni matter. But some are still honest enough to say it as they know it. Whether Mayfourth is right or wrong, I do not know. But I have heard his version from others many times before. But most are closing ranks to gradually kill this version.

They have been arguing that Oduduwa was not a Benin Prince. But we know the truth. We also know that his son Oranmiyan came to Benin. And later to other places. When did he return to Ife to become Ooni? Was Ooni stool just waiting for him considering that usurpation was common then? Could the chief Priest actually have deputized and later took the throne? If he did, with time, his descendants would have tried to legitimise it by claiming blood ties with Oduduwa. Most Arab Kings today claim blood links to Prophet Mohammed (PBUH).
Even Evian's son Ogiamien tried usurping the throne in Benin but failed, because Benin people fiercely resisted & Oranmiyan came.

Benin resistance was understandable because Ogiso dynasty had over 33 Kings previously. It was well-established already. Whereas Oduduwa dynasty was only very recent and therefore more prone to usurpation.

They have many stories from their Benin History Denial Centre (BHDC) but very watery as usual.

When some of them cannot come up with a credible narrative, they begin to swear & use gutter language like agbero. cheesy grin
The obelisk (opa oranmiyan) confirms that he returned to ife. Ifa (the yoruba religion) backs it up too.

What proof have people got that oranmiyan left descedants in katunga(old oyo) or benin? For all we know, they could also be making claim to blood link just like arab kings to mohammed.

He who wears Oduduwa' s original crown is the greatest of the yoruba kings, and that is the 51st Ooni of ife...Oduduwa being the number 1 Ooni. A thousand Alaafin can't make a claim on Ade Aare (Oduduwa's original crown).
An ife prince from centuries ago till present would never bow to an Alaafin or Olowu or any other king in yoruba land. Fact...

Most yoruba towns founded years after the demise of oranmiyan e.g Iwo, Ikire, owo, ila-orangun, Awori, akure, Ado ekiti, aramoko ekiti, emure, ikole, ikere, Usi, kabba e.t.c just to mention a few were established by princes that left ife to build their own settlements...These towns all the way from kogi to lagos have also been distorting histories for years..according to the alaafin... lol

Benin...not so relevant to the history of yoruba. They are a minority tribe.

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Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by mekadmiry(m): 6:23am On Mar 17, 2017
Obaluf0n:
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Asides from the economy & social clout Lagos weilds, Oba of Lagos lacks any cultural relevance tohave been rated first class - except ofcourse the economy & social status of a state affects the class of a king?

Oba Eko is in the same class as Olugbo, Olubadan, Soun, Timi, Ataoja and any throne created or rests on the monarchical relevance or power of another throne & not triggered by cultural system.

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Alaafin of Oyo throne is still occupied by the blood line of original Alaafin but a lot of things attached to that throne had gotten lost as a result of its migration from Oyo Ile to Ago Oja. Oyo derived its relevance from military expenditions which it never had over Ife throne (another history entirely). Oyo throne should not be classed ahead of Ife; if military might is the determining factor then Olubadan should be ranked before Alaafinas it is a known fact that Alaafin Oyo paid tributes to Baale (now Olubadan) Ibadan & was under Ibadan's military might till the colonial period.

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Seeing Emir ranked before Sultan makes it obvious the compiler of this list is not a very bright person.

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Bini throne is overrated.

The installation procession of a throne tells a lot about the historical relevance it holds. A quick look at the installation procession of the Bini throne and the reverence accorded to it by the Bini shows it is an exagerrated seat. Outside of Bini, the throne does not command much respect nor influence & it has no lasting imprint anywhere outside Edo areas - save for few towns around it.


The Bini throne is in the class of Owa Ijesaland & monarchs in that league.

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You're right.
First, the OP shouldn't have brought this list if he knew its incomplete.
What does he mean by " these are the ones i know"
You left out Obong of Calabar, Awujale of ijebu & u are bringing Dein of Agbor.
Again, pls note.... The Oba Benin has no special influence beyond Edo/Delta.... Its just that in this last 50 yrs, technology has made Nigerians to visit round the country if they like.
In those days, these rulers only ruled, & never ventured beyond their domains.
Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by stinggy(m): 6:25am On Mar 17, 2017
Obaluf0n:
.

Asides from the economy & social clout Lagos weilds, Oba of Lagos lacks any cultural relevance tohave been rated first class - except ofcourse the economy & social status of a state affects the class of a king?

Oba Eko is in the same class as Olugbo, Olubadan, Soun, Timi, Ataoja and any throne created or rests on the monarchical relevance or power of another throne & not triggered by cultural system.

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Alaafin of Oyo throne is still occupied by the blood line of original Alaafin but a lot of things attached to that throne had gotten lost as a result of its migration from Oyo Ile to Ago Oja. Oyo derived its relevance from military expenditions which it never had over Ife throne (another history entirely). Oyo throne should not be classed ahead of Ife; if military might is the determining factor then Olubadan should be ranked before Alaafinas it is a known fact that Alaafin Oyo paid tributes to Baale (now Olubadan) Ibadan & was under Ibadan's military might till the colonial period.

---

Seeing Emir ranked before Sultan makes it obvious the compiler of this list is not a very bright person.

----

Bini throne is overrated.

The installation procession of a throne tells a lot about the historical relevance it holds. A quick look at the installation procession of the Bini throne and the reverence accorded to it by the Bini shows it is an exagerrated seat. Outside of Bini, the throne does not command much respect nor influence & it has no lasting imprint anywhere outside Edo areas - save for few towns around it.


The Bini throne is in the class of Owa Ijesaland & monarchs in that league.

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Furnish me with these facts please.
Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by enfash03(m): 6:27am On Mar 17, 2017
Amarabae:
NONSENSE LIST.
where is
1.Obong of Calabar
2. Tor Tiv
3. Attah of Igala etc
what is dein of agbor? Who knows him and the village he rule.

What u just said is true but if u look at it very well.. .. Like me I haven't heard about obong of calabar until I go went there to do my NYSC service, I haven't heard about tor of tiv until I friend tiv girl.. ..even attah of igala I never hear the name before.
But those kings he mentioned they are First Class no doubt
Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by mekadmiry(m): 6:35am On Mar 17, 2017
chinweze93:
Obi of onitsha is king in onitsha and only onitsha. In Enugu, imo, abia, ebonyi, he is not regarded as a king and has no subjects, either over other kings or the populace, pls stop d misrepresentation. Almost each town has an eze. In Enugu, we so not know anyone by d name of obi of anywhere. Unless u mean some other kind of influence.
I'm a native Igbo, & I'll be forced to admit u are right.
Igbos are Republicans in nature.... We don't believe in kingship ( igbo enwegh'eze... Is a popular saying). We believe that a fair representation of individuals can sit down & take a decision on behalf of the other group. Even the Obi Onitsha, Igwe Nnewi, Igwe Umunri etc they don't rule by fiat, they have a cabinet of elders council ( Igwes cabinet) who take decision along with him. Quote me anywhere. That's why every part of igboland has one igwe, obi, eze or the other.
Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by balosunky(m): 6:50am On Mar 17, 2017
Jacksparr0w127:
My town King is a First Class King


Perhaps op listed the few he's aware of cuz I could count 10 First Class Kings in my state
Jesus 10 first kings in your state alone or do u mean ur state first class kings. Even olubadan,oba of lagos and olu of warri are just political first kings just like the Deji of akure speaking from my yoruba's view
Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by Luvlydevin(m): 6:54am On Mar 17, 2017
There are two kingdom's, the Benin kingdom and the united kingdom, children everywhere saying trash what they know nothing about, i rep the only king that does not go on transfer i rep the great OBA of BENIN

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Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by ruggedized1: 6:58am On Mar 17, 2017
RedboneSmith:


He wasn't even recognised as first class during colonial times. Only the Obi of Onitsha, and perhaps the Obi of Oguta had that distinction east of the Niger.


What's that nonsense? Please stop insulting us with such rubbish.
Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by victornwaorgu: 7:06am On Mar 17, 2017
What makes a king first class, is it the personality or the size of the kingdom?
Cause i know some very bush and local kings they've had in Ibadan but because of the size of their kingdom will u call them first class? and some very sophisticated guys in all these small ijebu villages but cause of the size of their kingdom, nobody reckons with them
Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by Basic123: 7:33am On Mar 17, 2017
Qyubee:
Emir of ilorin?? undecided
Emir of ilorin is not different from other emir in the north.

To me,the list is just 5 viz

1.Sultan of sokoto-head of sokoto caliphate which include kano,ilorin and co.

2.Ooni of ife-spiritual head of yoruba land which include Oyo,ibadan.These 2 have being political head of yoruba land one time or the other and had been colonized by each other.Ibadan was the succeeding empire to old oyo empire.Ife empire has never being colonized and this is due to the fact that it is banned from being colonized by other empires of the yoruba land then.

3.oba of benin-head of Benin empire.

4.Obi of onisha

5.Obong of calabar.
Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by Basic123: 7:40am On Mar 17, 2017
mekadmiry:

I'm a native Igbo, & I'll be forced to admit u are right.
Igbos are Republicans in nature.... We don't believe in kingship ( igbo enwegh'eze... Is a popular saying). We believe that a fair representation of individuals can sit down & take a decision on behalf of the other group. Even the Obi Onitsha, Igwe Nnewi, Igwe Umunri etc they don't rule by fiat, they have a cabinet of elders council ( Igwes cabinet) who take decision along with him. Quote me anywhere. That's why every part of igboland has one igwe, obi, eze or the other.
what is so special in your republic.It is not restricted to igbo land.every town in nigeria has traditional head with its own cabinet.

And we are talking of being more republican,I give it to Oyo empire.They had a prime minister(baashorun gaa),council of ministers.The legislature(oyo mesis),the judiciary(ogbonis).The ilaris(police),the Ajeles(like civil servants)'
Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by Nobody: 7:42am On Mar 17, 2017
AreaFada2:

Look, there is now a dedicated crop of SW pseudo intellectuals doing their utmost to denigrate Benin history.

They have seen that even without Oba Benin travelling up & down to North & South America, Europe and whatnot, Benin history keeps coming up on Western TV. Like BBC frequently showing Benin in documentaries. Without any lobby.

Their kids in diaspora report that alongside ancient Egypt, they were taught History of Benin Empire in school. As part of African history. They are worried about the prominence of our history.

So they have began a long term strategy of revisionism. We cannot ignore them anymore because they are trying very hard.

Look at what another SW person wrote:

Maydfourth:
Please let us not distort history...Ooni is not a king...Please go and get ur facts together...Ooni was a chief priest to Oduduwa and was in charge of all the deities in Ife land...He was never a child of Oduduwa and not entitled to rule ..He was assigned to keep the home when Oduduwa died and none of his children were around since they have gone to sojourn and capture other territories for themselves...Please don't say that OONI is a king in the presence of a a true OYO PRINCE...Ask anybody what is the meaning of Arole Odua...


Even among SW people, there's controversy over Ooni matter. But some are still honest enough to say it as they know it. Whether Mayfourth is right or wrong, I do not know. But I have heard his version from others many times before. But most are closing ranks to gradually kill this version.

They have been arguing that Oduduwa was not a Benin Prince. But we know the truth. We also know that his son Oranmiyan came to Benin. And later to other places. When did he return to Ife to become Ooni? Was Ooni stool just waiting for him considering that usurpation was common then? Could the chief Priest actually have deputized and later took the throne? If he did, with time, his descendants would have tried to legitimise it by claiming blood ties with Oduduwa. Most Arab Kings today claim blood links to Prophet Mohammed (PBUH).
Even Evian's son Ogiamien tried usurping the throne in Benin but failed, because Benin people fiercely resisted & Oranmiyan came.

Benin resistance was understandable because Ogiso dynasty had over 33 Kings previously. It was well-established already. Whereas Oduduwa dynasty was only very recent and therefore more prone to usurpation.

They have many stories from their Benin History Denial Centre (BHDC) but very watery as usual.

When some of them cannot come up with a credible narrative, they begin to swear & use gutter language like agbero. cheesy grin
you are very correct dude, All their accounts of history is so flawed with unimaginable irregularities'.


The Oba made it very clear at the coronation that history should not be distorted, cos that's what they have been doing for years, He made it very clear that Oranmiyan was a benin prince....Come to think of it, How can a people who had no established system of government, monarchy or organisation send a king to rule a people that were already very mature in terms of system of government, as at the time we were already organised, How can A people that have an established system of government beg a struggling kingdom for a king. Their accounts reeks of lies, On a normal day i will pass them cos many of them don't read or ask their grandparents questions they just browse nonsense online and come here to argue.....
am still awaiting his reply tho

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Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by Majesticniyi(m): 7:54am On Mar 17, 2017
Are the Yorubas just naturally stupid or what? We keep arguing with ourselves and demeaning our culture publicly for stupid superiority while I've not seen any northerner come out to abuse, demean or castigate a northerner king from a tribe different from his/hers. Let's keep arguing and showing our intelligence while the 'born to rule' continue being 'uneducated and stupid' but yet continue to rule us. Eyin eyan radarada that don't have brains to think with...same thing you do to divide us politically and economically. By the time we realize what we have lost due to our 'I too know' behaviour, oju yin maa ja
Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by Nobody: 7:59am On Mar 17, 2017
mekadmiry:

You're right.
First, the OP shouldn't have brought this list if he knew its incomplete.
What does he mean by " these are the ones i know"
You left out Obong of Calabar, Awujale of ijebu & u are bringing Dein of Agbor.
Again, pls note.... The Oba Benin has no special influence beyond Edo/Delta.... Its just that in this last 50 yrs, technology has made Nigerians to visit round the country if they like.
In those days, these rulers only ruled, & never ventured beyond their domains.
And your ooni ruled the world, bravo...he even had influence up to jupitar....excellent, well keep displaying your ignorance am not surprised that's what your insecured government appointee u call monarch is always trying to make you believe buh he himself knows the influence the great Benin kingdom wields in the history of Africa, He keeps travelling up and down just to sell your tradition to the world buh educated people ain't having non of it cos there's nothing and there has never been anything special about the yoruba culture or monarchy.....


you mention "Obong of Calabar, Awujale of ijebu & Dein of Agbor" and say something stupid about the Oba of Benin.....well your insurities are oozing for all to see, We are greater than you get over it.....before i go check up the meaning if an Empire.....

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Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by Nobody: 8:05am On Mar 17, 2017
Obaluf0n:
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Asides from the economy & social clout Lagos weilds, Oba of Lagos lacks any cultural relevance tohave been rated first class - except ofcourse the economy & social status of a state affects the class of a king?

Oba Eko is in the same class as Olugbo, Olubadan, Soun, Timi, Ataoja and any throne created or rests on the monarchical relevance or power of another throne & not triggered by cultural system.

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Alaafin of Oyo throne is still occupied by the blood line of original Alaafin but a lot of things attached to that throne had gotten lost as a result of its migration from Oyo Ile to Ago Oja. Oyo derived its relevance from military expenditions which it never had over Ife throne (another history entirely). Oyo throne should not be classed ahead of Ife; if military might is the determining factor then Olubadan should be ranked before Alaafinas it is a known fact that Alaafin Oyo paid tributes to Baale (now Olubadan) Ibadan & was under Ibadan's military might till the colonial period.

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Seeing Emir ranked before Sultan makes it obvious the compiler of this list is not a very bright person.

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Bini throne is overrated.

The installation procession of a throne tells a lot about the historical relevance it holds. A quick look at the installation procession of the Bini throne and the reverence accorded to it by the Bini shows it is an exagerrated seat. Outside of Bini, the throne does not command much respect nor influence & it has no lasting imprint anywhere outside Edo areas - save for few towns around it.


The Bini throne is in the class of Owa Ijesaland & monarchs in that league.

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The Alaafin is actually a superior king to the Ooni.

According to Legend, when Oduduwa was sharing his territory to his Sons, his most vallant - Oranmiyan was away at war. Upon Oranmiyan's return , he was given Oyo and dominion over his brothers - the original blood-lines of Oduduwa (Sabe, Popo, Ketu, Orangun, Owu).

Concerning Ife, there is a split over the story, Samuel Johnson (the legendary yoruba historian) wrote that the Ooni was actually the Chief Priest in Ife and was made ruler when Oduduwa died, hence the title 'O o ni' (You don't own it). the flip-side to the story is that in the absence of Oduduwa's legitimate sons upon his death, his illegitimate Son (born by his maid) - Obalufon became king, but was later deposed by Oranmiyan upon his return from his sojourn, who ordered that the kingship be given to him and hence back to the legitimate family of Oduduwa. Oranmiyan's son Lajamisan was therefore the progenitor of all of the Oonis that have reigned in Ife from his time till now.

Would have to check, but I think there is a traditional appellation for the Alaafin signalling that he is Oduduwa's heir.
Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by RedboneSmith(m): 8:09am On Mar 17, 2017
ruggedized1:



What's that nonsense? Please stop insulting us with such rubbish.

Do not be lazy. You have the tools to do your own research at your disposal. Use them. In the days of the four regions, the Eastern Region House of Chiefs had eight first-class kings: The Obi of Onitsha, the Obi of Oguta, the Eze Aro of Arochukwu, the Obong of Calabar, the Amanyanabo of Bonny, the Amanyanabo of Opobo, the Amanyanabo of Kalabari and the Amanyanabo of Nembe.

Eight from the Eastern Region alone. That's why I insist Nigeria has/had more than 10 first-class rulers.

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Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by Qyubee(m): 8:12am On Mar 17, 2017
Basic123:
Emir of ilorin is not different from other emir in the north.

To me,the list is just 5 viz

1.Sultan of sokoto-head of sokoto caliphate which include kano,ilorin and co.

2.Ooni of ife-spiritual head of yoruba land which include Oyo,ibadan.These 2 have being political head of yoruba land one time or the other and had been colonized by each other.Ibadan was the succeeding empire to old oyo empire.Ife empire has never being colonized and this is due to the fact that it is banned from being colonized by other empires of the yoruba land then.

3.oba of benin-head of Benin empire.

4.Obi of onisha

5.Obong of calabar.

grin grin nicely shared by u...one for each geo-political zone eh?. lols
Re: List Of First Class Kings In Nigeria By ThisTrend by ruggedized1: 8:15am On Mar 17, 2017
All those are mere traditional rulers. Only the Obi of Onitsha dynasty is the only one recognised even from the time the colonial masters came.

What is obi of oguta? Please remove that nonsense there. cheesy


RedboneSmith:


Do not be lazy. You have the tools to do your own research at your disposal. Use them. In the days of the four regions, the Eastern Region House of Chiefs had eight first-class kings: The Obi of Onitsha, the Obi of Oguta, the Eze Aro of Arochukwu, the Obong of Calabar, the Amanyanabo of Bonny, the Amanyanabo of Opobo, the Amanyanabo of Kalabari and the Amanyanabo of Nembe.

Eight from the Eastern Region alone. That's why I insist Nigeria has/had more than 10 first-class rulers.
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