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If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by Horus(m): 11:32am On Apr 16, 2017
If your jesus died on the cross for the world to be saved, why is there still sin today? Was not the personified Son of God enough to cleanse the whole world of sin?. Why did he have to send his beloved son to die for the sins of the world?. Couldn't he just come himself, or wave his hand and make it all well. He said his spirit was willing but his flesh was weak, and what did God do? His only begotten son, according to your belief, he let him die by Cruci-Fction. So that's how God showed his love?. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. And we are supposed to teach our children this and perpetuate the greatest "story" (lie) ever told? NOT!

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Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by hopefulLandlord: 11:35am On Apr 16, 2017
If christianity were true, why would evangelism even be necessary? God could just beam the knowledge of christianity directly into everyone's heads, or at very least talk to them like he talked to Paul or the prophets. Hell, instead of running off to heaven and never being seen again, the risen Jesus could just travel the world proclaiming the truth of his resurrection and performing miracles to prove it. It's not like he has anything better to do.
Why would an all powerful god need flawed, ignorant humans to communicate his message, especially when that message is the most important thing a human being could possibly know?

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Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by hunter47(m): 11:36am On Apr 16, 2017
Becos we were given the gift of free will

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Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by hopefulLandlord: 11:41am On Apr 16, 2017
hunter47:
Becos we were given the gift of free will
Are you sure humans have free will? You Christians talk a lot about certain prophesies that are destined to be fulfilled no matter what -- so that doesn't leave a heck of a lot of room for free will. Neither does all this talk I hear about God, or some angel or saint, lending a hand to save someone's home or guide someone's decisions, or help a local team win a big game.

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Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by Oyiboman69: 11:43am On Apr 16, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
If christianity were true, why would evangelism even be necessary? God could just beam the knowledge of christianity directly into everyone's heads, or at very least talk to them like he talked to Paul or the prophets. Hell, instead of running off to heaven and never being seen again, the risen Jesus could just travel the world proclaiming the truth of his resurrection and performing miracles to prove it. It's not like he has anything better to do.
Why would an all powerful god need flawed, ignorant humans to communicate his message, especially when that message is the most important thing a human being could possibly know?
he who does not know ,and know not what he does not know is a fool

Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by Breakdbond: 11:44am On Apr 16, 2017
My God my God why has thou forsaken me.... Werin e tell u... Bros J just realize him don Bleep up... Him think say him be yahweh son and yahweh go come save am make people see am as a God.... But Peter dem get other ideas.... He has Risen... . Abeg who and who see am rise? He ascended but only few see am the ascend.... This point of ascension Dey for desert where others close within no even see am d ascend.... This movie sef

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Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by hopefulLandlord: 11:46am On Apr 16, 2017
Oyiboman69:
he who does not know ,and know not what he does not know is a fool
okay fool

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Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by ifenes(m): 11:47am On Apr 16, 2017
Oyiboman69:

he who does not know ,and know not what he does not know is a fool

Imagine what you would have done if you had a bomb....... Why are religious folks violent?

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Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by hopefulLandlord: 11:48am On Apr 16, 2017
Breakdbond:
My God my God why has thou forsaken me.... Werin e tell u... Bros J just realize him don Bleep up... Him think say him be yahweh son and yahweh go come save am make people see am as a God.... But Peter dem get other ideas.... He has Risen... . Abeg who and who see am rise? He ascended but only few see am the ascend.... This point of ascension Dey for desert where others close within no even see am d ascend.... This movie sef

Christianity requires you to believe that Jesus Christ was actually God on Earth (huh? Oh, he kept the God part mostly hidden--WTF?), that Jesus was bodily resurrected on Earth, that this resurrected man actually walked around (huh? what did he eat? where did he sleep? sometimes he was recognized, sometimes he wasn't--WTF?), that a bunch of other people were also resurrected (the "zombies"wink--and yet no resurrection (either Jesus or the Zombies) was recorded by any historians at the time or subsequently.
If Jesus (and a whole bunch of other people) were actually, literally, resurrected don't you think the Roman authorities/Jewish authorities would have LOST THEIR SH-T? Holy cow. Talk about a way to convert a lot of people.
Instead, we get these weird accounts of Jesus only appearing in hiding, or only to the disciples, or appearing as a vision. Frankly, the whole thing reads like something that did not really happen. Sure I suppose it is theoretically possible Jesus wanted to keep his resurrection quiet--but that makes no sense if you think about it for half a minute. Rather, the most logical conclusion is that it didn't really happen. It sounds like an urban legend (and a lot of people believe urban legends, too).

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Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by Horus(m): 12:45pm On Apr 16, 2017
hunter47:
Becos we were given the gift of free will

So what was the point of "dying for your sins" if you have free will to sin again?

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Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by kilo4sure: 1:13pm On Apr 16, 2017
Horus:


So what was the point of "dying for your sins" if you have free will to sin again?
It says Jesus died for our sins, which means he went to the cross because of our collective iniquity, but God by raising him from the dead as explicitly confirmed his messaiahship and the will of the lord would prosper in his hands.
Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by leofab(f): 1:13pm On Apr 16, 2017
hunter47:
Becos we were given the gift of free will
so why die again? If we have free will? Gibberish..

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Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by menxer: 1:16pm On Apr 16, 2017
Horus:


So what was the point of "dying for your sins" if you have free will to sin again?

That is a 13 billion Naira question.

Organized Religion would have made more sense if, like science, the knowledge contained therein is allowed to evolve and is upgraded as we advance.

Right now, it's like one having water in ice form and is commanded that that is the only form one must know water, and must be kept that way in that form, yet one's freewill wants to know that water in its liquid or vapor form and the processes pertaining thereto.

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Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by Horus(m): 2:15pm On Apr 16, 2017
Oyiboman69:

he who does not know ,and know not what he does not know is a fool

Do you know that it was a Cruci-Fction?

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Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by hopefulLandlord: 7:30am On Apr 18, 2017
menxer:


That is a 13 billion Naira question.

Organized Religion would have made more sense if, like science, the knowledge contained therein is allowed to evolve and is upgraded as we advance.

Right now, it's like one having water in ice form and is commanded that that is the only form one must know water, and must be kept that way in that form, yet one's freewill wants to know that water in its liquid or vapor form and the processes pertaining thereto.

hmmm
Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by chakula: 8:31am On Apr 18, 2017
A beautiful question. A honest, sincere and knowledgeable christian should supply the thread starter with sufficient evidence according to the scripture. Ola and pastors in the house over to you.

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Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by birdman(m): 2:40am On Apr 19, 2017
chakula:
A beautiful question. A honest, sincere and knowledgeable christian should supply the thread starter with sufficient evidence according to the scripture. Ola and pastors in the house over to you.

im sure they will. if not, im afailable tongue
Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by orisa37: 7:00am On Apr 19, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
If christianity were true, why would evangelism even be necessary? God could just beam the knowledge of christianity directly into everyone's heads, or at very least talk to them like he talked to Paul or the prophets. Hell, instead of running off to heaven and never being seen again, the risen Jesus could just travel the world proclaiming the truth of his resurrection and performing miracles to prove it. It's not like he has anything better to do.
Why would an all powerful god need flawed, ignorant humans to communicate his message, especially when that message is the most important thingthing
a human being could possibly know?


Today no Sin to Those who believe in The Son of Man.

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Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by Image123(m): 1:02pm On Apr 19, 2017
Good questions, it's another thing if you want answers. I'd be back though.
Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:08pm On Apr 19, 2017
This atheist is back after he left this section about 2 years ago. And still profusely spewing garbage as he did then .
Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by Image123(m): 1:39pm On Apr 19, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
This atheist is back after he left this section about 2 years ago. And still profusely spewing garbage as he did then .

The heart usually would continue to search for God until it finds Him, or is preoccupied with some other thing.

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Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by Ken4Christ: 4:20pm On Apr 19, 2017
There is still sin because we are still living in a sinful body. Sin will completely stop when our bodies are changed to a glorified body.

This is why God made provision for our errors. If you fall into sin as a Christian, you are entitled to forgiveness if you ask for it and repent of it.

However, it is not a license to continue to sin. You have to make a personal decision not to allow sin to dominate you.
Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by Image123(m): 5:33pm On Apr 19, 2017
Horus:
If your jesus died on the cross for the world to be saved, why is there still sin today? Was not the personified Son of God enough to cleanse the whole world of sin?

He died primarily to cleanse sins, to be an atonement, a kind of soap for sins. To wash away sins as it were. Washing or use of soap does not compulsorily mean that there will be no more dirt.

Why did he have to send his beloved son to die for the sins of the world?. Couldn't he just come himself, or wave his hand and make it all well.

Because He volunteered to go/come remember? You probably do not understand or realise the seriousness of sin,that is why you think it can go by waving hands. Justice demands that sin be punished, the Saviour simply came to take the place of the sinner. Animal sacrifices were not sufficient.

He said his spirit was willing but his flesh was weak, and what did God do? His only begotten son, according to your belief, he let him die by Cruci-Fction. So that's how God showed his love?.

He said the truth. Even today, our human flesh is often weak to do the demands of God, but we do not walk after the flesh but after the Spirit. It's like saying that i feel sleepy at work, but i discipline myself as it were. If Jesus did not die, there would be no hope. Thank You Jesus for your great Love.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. And we are supposed to teach our children this and perpetuate the greatest "story" (lie) ever told? NOT!

That's correct. Only an ignorant man still doubts the crucifixion of Jesus, scholars have long seen this. Read up.

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Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by aminusanti(m): 8:50pm On Apr 19, 2017
Good question grin cheesy
Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by plappville(f): 10:05pm On Apr 19, 2017
Horus:
If your jesus died on the cross for the world to be saved, why is there still sin today? Was not the personified Son of God enough to cleanse the whole world of sin?. Why did he have to send his beloved son to die for the sins of the world?. Couldn't he just come himself, or wave his hand and make it all well. He said his spirit was willing but his flesh was weak, and what did God do? His only begotten son, according to your belief, he let him die by Cruci-Fction. So that's how God showed his love?. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. And we are supposed to teach our children this and perpetuate the greatest "story" (lie) ever told? NOT!

If Muhammad was not the first islamist terrorist why do we hear/see Muslims terrorist today? cheesy
Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by plappville(f): 10:06pm On Apr 19, 2017
plappville:


If Muhammad was not the first islamist terrorist why do we hear/see Muslims terrorist today? cheesy
aminusanti:
Good question grin cheesy

grin
Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by aminusanti(m): 10:53pm On Apr 19, 2017
plappville:


grin
if u can call prophet mohammad (s.a.w) a terrorist then moses, abraham and d rest r terrorists as wel according to u...now answer the OP or exit as usual

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Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:39am On Apr 20, 2017
Horus:


If your jesus died on the cross for the world to be saved, why is there still sin today? Was not the personified Son of God enough to cleanse the whole world of sin?. Why did he have to send his beloved son to die for the sins of the world?. Couldn't he just come himself, or wave his hand and make it all well. He said his spirit was willing but his flesh was weak, and what did God do? His only begotten son, according to your belief, he let him die by Cruci-Fction. So that's how God showed his love?. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. And we are supposed to teach our children this and perpetuate the greatest "story" (lie) ever told? NOT!

I'll start by asking you similar questions. Why do we still have dirty clothes since the invention of detergent? Why do we have dirty people since there is soap in the market? Answering those questions will give you a clue to the question you asked highlighted above. cool

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Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by Horus(m): 5:24am On Apr 20, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


I'll start by asking you similar questions. Why do we still have dirty clothes since the invention of detergent? Why do we have dirty people since there is soap in the market? Answering those questions will give you a clue to the question you asked highlighted above. cool

Typical christian tendency!, asking questions to avoid answering a question

Instead, just say that you dont know the answer

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Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by dalaman: 8:03am On Apr 20, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
This atheist is back after he left this section about 2 years ago. And still profusely spewing garbage as he did then .

What is the garbage? Why is there sin if Jesus died for the sin of the world according the mythology?

In the Legend Yahweh even destroyed the earth with a flood because of sin but after the destruction humans continued to sin. Does that make any sense?

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Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:03am On Apr 20, 2017
dalaman:


What is the garbage? Why is there sin if Jesus died for the sin of the world according the mythology?

Jesus did not die to obliterate sin , he died to save Mankind from the punishment sin would bring unto it .

In the Legend Yahweh even destroyed the earth with a flood because of sin but after the destruction humans continued to sin. Does that make any sense?

Yahweh did not destroy the earth to obliterate sin , he simply judged the world . "The wages of sin is death" .
Re: If Jesus Died For Our Sins, Why Is There Still Sin Today? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:06am On Apr 20, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


I'll start by asking you similar questions. Why do we still have dirty clothes since the invention of detergent? Why do we have dirty people since there is soap in the market? Answering those questions will give you a clue to the question you asked highlighted above. cool

According to the logic of ignorant atheists , the presence of detergent stops dirt from existing embarassed grin

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