temitope277:
see dis idiot, who is the criminal?

ask the police

Ignorance is an illness which is devouring Africa. Education is urgently needed.

waterhouse071:
Is Oni an MFM member?

my guy Na MFM member de send fire for me house? U no get chill oo

oh no

TVTKOKO:
i said fuuuuck you and fuuuuck those history books of yours.. I know you're tryna prove a point about going to Europe.. congrats.. But I beg you to do well to read the history of your own people and leave the great yoruba race outta your stupidity. Imagine arguing with me about my own people from a book compiled by a white man that doesn't even know his own origin.. What effrontery!!!

Wow, very nice. SO basically, Bleep logics and proofs, you have made up your mind. what a sound way to conduct your life, carry on. Hopefully you won't pass on your "mental" genes.

Keke won fe kolu trailer so fun won ko ya I spit fire like sango oko oya Mo ti lu won pa ki won lo pe eni ma ba won koya Send me a call me back den imma call ya

history2900:
I am not the one suggesting that the ooni of ife has something to do with this, it is some of his fans who are applauding that possibility. ANd once Again, the ooni of ife is not superior to the Oba of Lagos, either you like it or not ! Lagos has never, ever, ever been under ife. No other kingdom has ever been under ife. You guys are just crazy and would not take time to consult historical documents.

I understand you and following your explanation.

sylviaeo:
ask the police

ur brain dey leak

DONSMITH123:
Fear Ooni of Ife. Next time he will learn how to respect Ooni

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sylviaeo:
Some people will soon come here n say that the fire is from sango

The fire is from Sango

NLProblemChild:
The person above me should delete his comments .. I want to be the FTC on this matter ..

hahahahah see wetin Buhari absent don cause?

history2900:

Wow, so basically I should forget logics and history and just deliberately blind myself like you and claim things with no proof whatsoever. There is actually proof that you are wrong, but you disregard that and continu in your folly ! Lagos was never under Oyo and never under Ife ! Live with it !

@bolded
But despite that, the way lagos king greeted ooni was too childish.

No Comment Now

juman:


@bolded
But despite that, the way lagos king greeted ooni was too childish.

If you were a king, then how would you greet a guy who claims to be the king of kings, refers to himself as "His Imperial Highness", who basically calls you his subject, while you have proof that all that is false ?

Who God has blessed no one can insult.


The next fire will be in Aso villa.

history2900:
If you were a king, the how would you greet a guy who claims to be the king of kings, refers to himself as His Imperial Highness who calls you his subject, when you have proof that all that is false ?

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Anyway, power of those kings have been transferred to the state governors.

Governors dictate what happen in their respective states.

oba eko pls go and apologise,the gods are angry''''

enigmang:


The fire is from Sango

says who?

mrtegation99:
Pride comes before a fall. Shebi you see yourself? The ancestors in Ife has heard the insult. Your own haff finish. Let me kuku soak garri and zobo

lolzz.. ..u mean d gods have heard, had an emergency meeting and agreed to sanction d lagoon oba with three thunderbolts of fire..

The god's no happy due to Lagoon and Ooni story.. Elephant required for rituals.

Amebo1:
Even if Ooni didn't reply him harshly, the Oracle and gods of yorubaland are angry with Oba Akinolu

a sub-king for that matter. Money must have gotten into his head

ShotCaller:
THE GODS MUST BE CRAZY

Ah ah ! Always be mindful of your post on social media

dckng16:
Still thinking if Obj can postrate and greet Ooni who is Oba Akiolu?

humility is an expensive virtue, he can't afford it

history2900:
Oduduwa is a myth, a character in a religion. You are confusing religion and history. Please go to europe and learn the meaning of history, it seems they don't teach it in nigeria anymore, thank God I studied in europe.

The best historian of African affairs are Africans. Oduduwa being a myth is a narrative that an European historian will most likely push. If you studied African history in Europe, ask for a refund, because chances are you read a factually incorrect textbooks or you were taught by a fraud. Only Africans can write objectively about African history because we had a life before whitemen built their ships. The first narrative held by most Yorubas is that Oodua is the first king of ile-ife, the alternative narrative is that he's a pantheon actively involved in the creation of the world. I guess you were refering to the latter narrative when you claimed he's a myth. The Ooni is always referred to as god or Orisa irrespective of who held the office. Ooni Adeyeye is an Orisa but that doesn't make him a 'myth' does it?

Don't get me wrong, western education is good as I earned an advanced degree in engineering in a western country myself, but to imply that only whites can write our history is shocking to say the least.

history2900:
If you were a king, then how would you greet a guy who claims to be the king of kings, refers to himself as "His Imperial Highness", who basically calls you his subject, while you have proof that all that is false ?

I have been reading your posts on this thread, and all I can say you are not making any point. If you know so much about Yoruba history like you claim, why can't support your points with historical narrations or facts. You keep saying you've read books in Europe but saying absolute nothing. I even doubt if you know that European history you are claiming, and I challenge you to intellectual discourse on any history in the world.
Now to issue of Lagos. Unlike others I won't insult you. I will educate and expect you to come up with counter argument. If you are adept with history of Yoruba and Lagos, you should know that the first settlers of Lagos are Awori people, and their progenitor is Ogunfunminere. The Awori people migrated from Ile Ife just like any Yoruba settlers. Before their migration, they were given Calabash (Awo) and instructed by Ifa oracle to settle anywhere the Calabash sink. The Calabash led them to Isheri were it sank which gave them the name Awori (Calabash sunk). From Isheri they migrated to other parts of Lagos such as Iddo and Lagos Island. Lagos Island used to be their farm for pepper and from where the name Eko (oko) which means farm originated. The seat of Oba of Lagos palace known as Ita Iduganran is derived from the same pepper farm which means Ita (front yard) Iduganran (pepper farm). Now tell me how Lagos did not come from Ile ife.

history2900:
Oduduwa is a myth, a character in a religion. You are confusing religion and history. Please go to europe and learn the meaning of history, it seems they don't teach it in nigeria anymore, thank God I studied in europe.

that explains the conflict in information, you studied in europe! So, you will call yourself an expert on yoruba matters just because some university gave you certificate (pali).

history2900:
There is nothing western about education. there is Education and there is gibberish. And please stop making uneducated, general and meaningless claims such as this: "Besides religion and history is very much interwoven."

Yoruba history and religion is interwoven

That is one of the differences between Africa and Europe hence western education is education based on European ideas

history2900:
I am not the one suggesting that the ooni of ife has something to do with this, it is some of his fans who are applauding that possibility. ANd once Again, the ooni of ife is not superior to the Oba of Lagos, either you like it or not ! Lagos has never, ever, ever been under ife. No other kingdom has ever been under ife. You guys are just crazy and would not take time to consult historical documents.

Ife is the source of yorubaland. That alone makes all obas less than the ooni

Is this coincidence or what because i don't understand ooo

Mere coincidence, no sango power there.

OlaoChi:


Ife is the source of yorubaland. That alone makes all obas less than the ooni

BOMBSHELL!!!!
Lagos is NOT Yoruba Land.
~ Oba Akiolu.

Coming from the palace, with what I was told by my late paternal grandmother who is a descendant of Oba Ovonramwen Nogbaisi. Also reading from factual Historical books.

Let me share this Knowledge with you all on Eko/Lagos.

Modern-day Lagos was founded by Prince Ado, the son of the Oba of Benin, Prince Ado was the First Oba of Lagos, the son of the Bini King, Prince Ado, named the town Eko until the Portuguese explorer Ruy de Segueira changed the Maritime town to Lagos, which at that time from 1942 was Portuguese expedition center down the African Coast.

It was a major center of the slave trade until 1851. Lagos was annexed by Britain via the Lagos treaty of cession in 1861, ending the consular period and starting the British Colonial Period. The remainder of Modern-day Nigeria was seized in 1886, when the Colony and Protectorate of Nigeria was established in 1914 Lagos was declared its Capital due to the struggle of the Bini King.

Lagos experienced growth pro to the British Colonial rule and even more rapid growth during the Colonial rule throughout the 1960s, 70s, continued through the 80s and 90s till date. Thanks to the Awori's, Bini's, Yoruba's, migrants across the Nation and World at large, as no particular group of people can take the Glory alone.

Lagos is made up of Lagoons and creeks. The Lagos lagoon, Lagos Harbour, five cowne creeks. Ebute-Metta creeks, Porto-Novo creeks, New canal, Badagry creeks, Kuramo waters and Light house creeks.

The Awori's and Bini's are known to be the first settlers of the Eko Land. The Awori's are speakers of a distinct dialect close to that of the Yoruba Language with a rich Bini mixture. Traditionally, Awori's were found in Ile-Ife, they were known to be the Bini's who followed their self exiled Prince, the first son of the Ogiso (now called Oba) of Benin Kingdom, whose Step-Mother was after his head.
The Exiled Benin Prince Izoduwa known to the Yoruba's as Ooduwa (Oduduwa) was made ruler of the Ife people due to his Powers and followers from the Great Benin-Kingdom.
Izoduwa (Ooduwa) was made the First King of Ile-Ife in 1230 AD. His followers from his father's Kingdom in Benin are the today's Awori people who settled in Eko now called Lagos.

In the 1300, the King of Benin-Empire heard from one of his traders who was a settler in Eko on how the Bini's were treated by the Awori's who lived in their area. Upon hearing this the King of Benin commanded the assembling of a War expedition, lead by his Son Prince Ado, which headed the settlement of the Awori's and demanded and explanation.

On arriving Eko, Prince Ado and his Army were more than received. The Awori's asked the Bini Prince to stay and become their leader. Ado agreed on the condition that they surrender their sovereignty to the Oba of Benin, to which the people agreed.
Hearing this, the King of Benin gave his permission for Prince Ado and the expedition to remain in Eko.

The Oba of Benin sent some of his chiefs including the Eletu, Odibo, Obanikoro and others to assist his son Oba Ado in the running of Eko. From the crowing of Prince Ado as the First Oba of Lagos (then called Eko) Lagos served as a major center for Slave- trade from which the Awori's, the Oba of Benin and his son the Oba of Lagos and all the children/descendants who took over as his successors for over four centuries supported the trade.

The Oba of Benin was head of the Benin-Empire which are present day Western, Southern and Eastern Modern- day Nigeria.
The King never obliged anyone to speak the Bini language as he believed everyone was entitled to their own choice of language.

The name Eko was given to it by the First King of Lagos Oba Ado, the young and vibrant Prince from Benin. Eko was the Land now known as Lagos Island, where the king Palace was built. The palace is called IDUNGARAN meaning "palace built on pepper farm" Oba Ado and the Warriors from Benin together with the early Bini's settlers in Eko and the Awori people settled in the Southern part of Eko called "Isale Eko". "Isale literally means bottom ". Must have been used to indicate downtown (as in down town Lagos)

Until the coming in of the Benin's 1300AD , Lagos geographical boundary was Lagos mainland, Lagos Island, the seat of the Oba of Lagos then consisted of a pepper farm and fishing post. No one was living there.

About 1450 AD some Yoruba's who hailed from Isheri in Ogun-State and Ekiti were allowed by the King to settle in Eko during a war, they came in very large numbers thereby surpassing the numbers of the Awori's and Bini's. (Hence Yorubas claim to own Eko due to their numbers).

Oba Ado fell in-love with a beautiful woman whose father was Awori and mother a daughter to one of the chief, they had two sons and also a daughter Erelu Kuti, who begat Ologun Kutere who later became King.

Oba Akintoye descendant of Prince Ado whose mother was the First Queen from Awori ascended the throne as Oba of Lagos in 1841, he attempted to ban Slave-trade with the help of the British, but the Local merchant, the Awori's, Bini's and a few Yoruba's who was already integrated and married to Awori's and Bini's strongly opposed the intended move, and disposed and exiled the King and installed Akintoye's brother Kosoko as Oba, at exile in Europe, Akintoye met with British Authorities who had earlier banned Slavery in 1807 the British decided to support the deposed Oba to regain his throne.

With the Success of the British intervention in 1851 Akintoye was reinstalled as Oba of Lagos. In practical terms, however the British influence over the Benin-Empire had become absolute, and then years later in 1861 Lagos was formally annexed as a British Colony.
This lead to the fight of the British and the Bini King, the leader of the Benin-Empire for years, which finally lead to the fall of the Empire and the capturing of Oba Ovonramwen.

Oba Akintoye of Lagos was the first Oba not to be buried in Benin. Prior to this all the Kings of Lagos were buried in Benin. They passed on taxes to the Oba of Benin until the British settled in.

Until today the Oba of Lagos is the head of all the Oba's in Lagos because the Bini's believe that wherever they or their offspring are they are senior. The Status of the Oba of Lagos is different from other Obas most of whom were given back their crowns and staff of office only within 40years ago.
Those who got their lands back was the original land owners they were mostly descendant of Prince Ado others children of the Olofin.

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