raumdeuter:


Zidane Ronaldo Lima Maradona Ramos, Ronaldinho etc all never played In England so they should be behind Thierry Henry who ruled England

probably! More reasons C. Ronaldo is achieving better than they all achieved!

raumdeuter:


Zidane Ronaldo Lima Maradona Ramos, Ronaldinho etc all never played In England so they should be behind Thierry Henry who ruled England

and what do they all have in common?
World cup trophy.

World cup is the toughest and biggest competition in world.



Okay may be I should put it like this,
No coach or player should be tagged the
best or legend until he rules the world or at least england.

Plus some club and personal records too.

inMyOpeenion:
probably! More reasons C. Ronaldo is achieving better than they all achieved!

I read your diary.
And I did know it was.

EvilMetahuman:
and what do they all have in common?
World cup trophy.

World cup is the toughest and biggest competition in world.

Okay may be I should put it like this,
No coach or player should be tagged the
best or legend until he rules the world or at least england.

Plus some club and personal records too.

Maldini, Cryuff, Oliver Kahn, Raul, Messi, Platini all should rank below Rio Ferdinand, Nistelrooy, Lampard

Pep is really a ganja smoking manager. How can you release, Clichy, sagna, xabaleta due to old age and wants to sign alves who is actually older than them??

This man go use backyard comot EPL

raumdeuter:


Maldini, Cryuff, Oliver Kahn, Raul, Messi, Platini all should rank below Rio Ferdinand, Nistelrooy, Lampard

may be or may be not.


By the way, most popular european leagues back then, from early 90 to early 2000 or so have the same level of toughness and competitiveness unlike what we have now.
Even bundle's liga used to be very competitive back then until it became bayern liga.
Same with serie A and even laliga self.

So I wouldn't rate a player above the other unless he has performed greatly in the world cup(which I would say should be the deciding factor for players in the 90s)

lordfalcao:
Pep is really a ganja smoking manager. How can you release, Clichy, sagna, xabaleta due to old age and wants to sign alves who is actually older than them??

This man go use backyard comot EPL

Abi o.
Very desperate apari.

His job and reputation is on the line so he wants to sign tested player not that he has problem with age of the players.

He wants to win at all cost.

lordfalcao:
Pep is really a ganja smoking manager. How can you release, Clichy, sagna, xabaleta due to old age and wants to sign alves who is actually older than them??

This man go use backyard comot EPL

He has signed 2 players.

B. Silva for Navas
Ederson for Cabalero.

Both are younger replacement for older players. Btw how many quality right backs are in the market. Bayern is converting Kimmich a midfielder to right back, barca is still testing Sergio Roberto at right back, man utd is running Valencia or Ashley young at right back

So when the desirable is not available, you go for whatever is closer

EvilMetahuman:
may be or may be not.


By the way, most popular european leagues back then, from early 90 to early 2000 or so have the same level of toughness and competitiveness unlike what we have now.
Even bundle's liga used to be very competitive back then until it became bayern liga.
Same with serie A and even laliga self.

So I wouldn't rate a player above the other unless he has performed greatly in the world cup(which I would say should be the deciding factor for players in the 90s)

UEFA actually ranks the English league 3rd and none of the top 5 Balon dor in recent times was from the EPL. From performance in the CL we can see that EPL is not curently a top league

raumdeuter:


He has signed 2 players.

B. Silva for Navas
Ederson for Cabalero.

Both are younger replacement for older players. Btw how many quality right backs are in the market. Bayern is converting Kimmich a midfielder to right back, barca is still testing Sergio Roberto at right back, man utd is running Valencia or Ashley young at right back

So when the desirable is not available, you go for whatever is closer

this is long story.. There is enuf open cheque given to pep guardiolar to sign any young RB he wants..

The crux of the matter is guardiolar releasing 3 Fullbacks because they are old. Now planning to sign another much older fullback...

If he feel there are no quality RB in the market ,he should have kept them for 1 more season, instead he released them to sign a much older Full back.

Na stupidity

lordfalcao:
this is long story.. There is enuf open cheque given to pep guardiolar to sign any young RB he wants..

The crux of the matter is guardiolar releasing 3 Fullbacks because they are old. Now planning to sign another much older fullback...

If he feel there are no quality RB in the market ,he should have kept them for 1 more season, instead he released them to sign a much older Full back.

Na stupidity

Sagna is older than Dani Alves and Clichy doesnt play the same wing as Alves

raumdeuter:


He has signed 2 players.

B. Silva for Navas
Ederson for Cabalero.

Both are younger replacement for older players. Btw how many quality right backs are in the market. Bayern is converting Kimmich a midfielder to right back, barca is still testing Sergio Roberto at right back, man utd is running Valencia or Ashley young at right back

So when the desirable is not available, you go for whatever is closer

You mean like another supposedly washed up/finished 34yr old player in Dani Alves,right?

No worry, we will be here to welcome new or old excuses with a open mind come next season.

raumdeuter:


Sagna is older than Dani Alves and Clichy doesnt play the same wing as Alves

sagna is 34, zabaleta is 32, Dani alves is 34 all play the same wing and role. Who is now older than each other??

raumdeuter:


UEFA actually ranks the English league 3rd and none of the top 5 Balon dor in recent times was from the EPL. From performance in the CL we can see that EPL is not curently a top league

can you post a link to the ranks and what are the criteria used by uefa to rank them?
I'm 80% sure that the main criteria would be champions league.


By the way, let's not deviate from the point here.
What made english league best for most people?
- the competitiveness
- the toughness
- the excitement
Those 3 things are not present at once in popular leagues across europe for now.



Using balon d'or to judge a league is also like using champion's league to judge a league, No difference there.

A player from Brazil has not won balon d'or in the last 10 years or so, does that change the fact that brazil still the biggest footballing nation that everyone gets excited to beat?

English teams are not doing so badly by the way, just not the level they supposed to be. Its something that will change very soon.
There is huge probability that english team will be in the final of champions league next year. (Yeah that soon)


But is there any hope like that for popular leagues in europe that they will posses those 3 things up there any time soon?

Next year, its still gonna be the same old story of bayern winning the useless abo,
Juventus winning serie A,(there is small light at the end for inter though )
Barca or madrid winning laliga
Psg winning ligue 1.

snrman:
I don't read goal o I was just passing by.

We all know that pogba didnt ask for the price tag on his head but come on pogba of today is a mediocre of what he used to b

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EvilMetahuman:
can you post a link to the ranks and what are the criteria used by uefa to rank them?
I'm 80% sure that the main criteria would be champions league.


By the way, let's not deviate from the point here.
What made english league best for most people?
- the competitiveness
- the toughness
- the excitement
Those 3 things are not present at once in popular leagues across europe for now.



Using balon d'or to judge a league is also like using champion's league to judge a league, No difference there.

A player from Brazil has not won balon d'or in the last 10 years or so, does that change the fact that brazil still the biggest footballing nation that everyone gets excited to beat?

English teams are not doing so badly by the way, just not the level they supposed to be. Its something that will change very soon.
There is huge probability that english team will be in the final of champions league next year. (Yeah that soon)


But is there any hope like that for popular leagues in europe that they will posses those 3 things up there any time soon?

Next year, its still gonna be the same old story of bayern winning the useless abo,
Juventus winning serie A,(there is small light at the end for inter though )
Barca or madrid winning laliga
Psg winning ligue 1.

too many fallacy in one post,brazil is NOT the best national team in the world,neither are they the best footballing nation,EPL fans make too many senselesslly boast,give yourself 10 postions in uefa and you won't still make champions league final,your league is not the best in the world, neither is it the test for greatest for anyone,if players like Kane lukaku Sanchez could be top scorers then mate there is nothing else it is as overrated as the English national team

Godstraight:
too many fallacy in one post,brazil is NOT the best national team in the world,neither are they the best footballing nation,EPL fans make too many senselesslly boast,give yourself 10 postions in uefa and you won't still make champions league final,your league is not the best in the world, neither is it the test for greatest for anyone,if players like Kane lukaku Sanchez could be top scorers then mate there is nothing else it is as overrated as the English national team

who are top scorers in la Liga for let's say 7 years now? In Bayern Liga nkor? French league? World best has been between two players for straight ten years now so what are you saying

Godstraight:
too many fallacy in one post,brazil is NOT the best national team in the world,neither are they the best footballing nation, [EPL fans make too many senselessll/s]y boast,give yourself 10 postions in uefa and you won't still make champions league final,your league is not the best in the world, neither is it the test for greatest for anyone,if players like Kane lukaku Sanchez could be top scorers then mate there is nothing else it is as overrated as the English national team[/s]

*facepalm*
This is why we ask students to take comprehension seriously in school.

Point to where I said brazil is the best national team in the world?

lordfalcao:
Pep is really a ganja smoking manager. How can you release, Clichy, sagna, xabaleta due to old age and wants to sign alves who is actually older than them??

This man go use backyard comot EPL

Experience Experience Experience.

Dani Alves could potentially be Man City's Puyol in terms of Experience.

So they do not crumble as easily as they did at the
Stade Louis II.

EvilMetahuman:


*facepalm*
This is why we ask students to take comprehension seriously in school.

Point to where I said brazil is the best national team in the world?

I think I noticed when I was writing I said something llike"neither are they the best footballing nation

bykebyke:

Experience Experience Experience.

Dani Alves could potentially be Man City's Puyol.

So they do not crumble as easily as they did at the
Stade Louis II.

what type of experience

experience of playing in the EPl over players that played there all part of their life, or experience of champions league against players who have been playing the UCL all their life. So which experience will alves add to the team that Clichy, zabaleta, sagna ( his age mates ) don't have??

Lewandowski?? Lol

I won't even bother

Today In History, June 21, 1970:

Brazil, led by soccer legend Pele, wins its third World Cup championship with a 4-1 victory over Italy.

Chelsea will receive 2.7 m from Roma through the sale of salah to Liverpool

bigkesh:
Lewandowski?? Lol

I won't even bother

For some reasons, the ninja is disappointed with Bayern. Can we get to bite the bullet and go for this?

I'll certainly be over the moon if we make a solid approach, this is one striker I rate as 'complete'.

lordfalcao:
what type of experience

experience of playing in the EPl over players that played there all part of their life, or experience of champions league against players who have been playing the UCL all their life. So which experience will alves add to the team that Clichy, zabaleta, sagna ( his age mates ) don't have??

Yes bro.

The experience of Dani Alves...a three time UCL winner...4 time finalist..can be compared to Clichy's,Zabaleta's and Sagna's.

Well, On the news this morning:

- Chelsea have made a stunning move for Bayern Munich's goal-scoring superstar Robert Lewandowski.
- Meanwhile, the Premier League champions have begun talks with Atletico Madrid over £50m Diego Costa - even though a transfer ban means the striker could not play for them until 2018.
- John Terry is giving serious consideration to playing abroad, even though Aston Villa remain keen to sign him.
- Chelsea will receive £2.7m from Roma when Mohamed Salah completes his move to Liverpool as a result of a sell-on clause agreed with the Italian club when the Egypt international left Stamford Bridge.
- Juventus defender Dani Alves is set to agree a two-year deal with Manchester City, despite interest from Chelsea.

hensben:
who are top scorers in la Liga for let's say 7 years now? In Bayern Liga nkor? French league? World best has been between two players for straight ten years now so what are you saying

in Germany lewy,auba,yeah you got not too many,in Spain Madrid alone could beat EPL top eleven,Sanchez didn't do jack when he was in Spain,bring him back to barca and he locates his place on the bench,now look at him ,the king of north London, apart from trophies hazard has nothing on this dude,imagine a player like lukaku come to Spain,a technical terrorist scoring that high,don't be rediculous,there is nothing in the EPL that has made a test for great players,your best team we get crumbled against real opposition,the thing I like about england mate is that they publicizes, I with to see guys in UEFA to see the quality you keep boasting about,I would loved to be enlightened

bykebyke:

Yes bro.

The experience of Dani Alves...a three time UCL winner...4 time finalist..can be compared to Clichy's,Zabaleta's and Sagna's.

you're not telling yourself the truth... He should recall David villa and throwaway aguero, recall xavi and throway KDB, recall puyol and throwaway kompany because he is looking for experience...

Na backdoor guardiolar go follow run this time.

bykebyke:

Experience Experience Experience.

Dani Alves could potentially be Man City's Puyol in terms of Experience.

So they do not crumble as easily as they did at the
Stade Louis II.

Dani Alves would never be Man City's Puyol because Puyol wouldn't have come out successful if he played in England.

Do you believe Puyol would have done better in England? Lol! Even with the fact that Chelsea won just a Champions league trophy, Terry won defender of the year 3 good times and made Team of the year 5 times; Puyol has only Uefa defender of the year to his honour and that was 11 years ago.


What I'm trying to say is that if you are not strong, special and/or young, being a better defender in EPL will be a dream thatll never come true

Calculate that and you'd know old age has a lot to do for Puyol. Compare Dani Alves to someone in England not Puyol that has never been there.

Godstraight:
in Germany lewy,auba,yeah you got not too many,in Spain Madrid alone could beat EPL top eleven,Sanchez didn't do jack when he was in Spain,bring him back to barca and he locates his place on the bench,now look at him ,the king of north London, apart from trophies hazard has nothing on this dude,imagine a player like lukaku come to Spain,a technical terrorist scoring that high,don't be rediculous,there is nothing in the EPL that has made a test for great players,your best team we get crumbled against real opposition,the thing I like about england mate is that they publicizes, I with to see guys in UEFA to see the quality you keep boasting about,I would loved to be enlightened

we are talking about the competitiveness within epl and you're bringing ucl and Real Madrid...Real Madrid can beat any team with the form they are now, except Barcelona who have MESSI. So I ask again what are you saying?

lordfalcao:
you're not telling yourself the truth... He should recall David villa and throwaway aguero, recall xavi and throway KDB, recall puyol and throwaway kompany because he is looking for experience...

Na backdoor guardiolar go follow run this time.

Okay bro.


He's buying Alves because he just wants to waste money...don't mind the bald fraud...Next season en go see pepper again.



Are you happy now?