| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:01pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
Mickael2:
the answer to the hold part of your text should be that he is just not good enough as a striker. you will see now that even theGoodJoe who practically marvels at whatever Guardiola does will come out to argue now That's all. No be only me talk am. Is it difficult for some people to comprehend that Nacho is more of a SS and Atm than a CF(lone one for that matter)? |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:06pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
daveP:
Martins would destroy the Cmr defence. but.... mistake of Rohr is not having an experienced striker during that match like the way Germany does for Klose even if he plays with 10 boys.. Abeg, help me tell dem. We need players in form and playing regularly in that position.  1 Like |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:08pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
Mickael2:
the answer to the hold part of your text should be that he is just not good enough as a striker. you will see now that even theGoodJoe who practically marvels at whatever Guardiola does will come out to argue now
I do not get what you guys are talking.
Nacho is a forward that can play multiple roles and you select the best player for each role. At the moment, the striking position is key and Iheanacho is our best finisher. He should stay there because when we create loads, we need our best finishing.
One of the articles posted is from a coach talking of Iheanacho before the U17 World cup. Typical forgiveness posting not well thought out posts. You want us to take the decision of an amateur coach over highly paid professionals like Pellegrini and Vieira who played Nacho as a nine.
All the name Nacho has made so far in club football came as him playing as a striker. Forget the whole Guardiola talk in reference of Nacho's club football because he was doing it before Guardiola. 1 Like |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:11pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
komekn:
I could name a few but you probably will not know them but they are football analysts for EPL clubs not on big money but behind the scenes going through hours of video footage of individual players to objectively assess thier competencies, strengths and weaknesses.
Furthermore they wouldn't take kindly to being quoted online. Good to know. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:11pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
forgiveness:
That's all. No be only me talk am.
Is it difficult for some people to comprehend that Nacho is more of a SS and Atm than a CF(lone one for that matter)?
Why will you not hold on the bolded when it suits your view. Iheanacho became one of the most lethal finishers in the EPL and you want people to believe he is not good enough as a striker because an amateur coach said so. 1 Like |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 5:11pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
Iheanacho is good as a CF but better as an SS and AMF.... that is what I have been saying for the past couple of posts now. But shouting all over the thread that Iheanacho is useless as a CF is pure fallacy and I will not tolerate fallacy. He is still the one player in the EPL with the best goals per mins ratio for strikers in the EPL since August 2015!!!!! That is no child's play and no small achievement for a player you say is not good enough or is useless as a CF/No.9. So many Analysts and top sites have always acknowledged Iheanacho's impact as a no.9 even though some others state his most effective roles as an SS and an AM. Telegraph UK in their comment on Iheanacho in their Prestigious best 50 U-21 players in the world today said this: "Has had his first team time reduced under Pep Guardiola's management but Iheanacho is one of the best young strikers around. Has scored six goals in nine games for Nigeria and could well move out on loan this summer to play more football. So many more top coaches, sites and analysts and pundits/Journos also acknowledge Nacho's impact as a no.9 even though I admit he is far more dangerous and far more influential as a no.10 and a no.8. I am saying.... get your analysis right and make it very balanced. You cannot term the deadliest no.9 and striker in the EPL since august 2015 not good enough or useless as a striker. And you also cannot term the striker with the best Goals per mins ratio in EPL history for 10+ goals and more at a point before season's end "not good enough". No need showing you the views of many others who acknowledge Nacho as a good no 9. In a nutshell, Iheanacho is good enough as a no.9 and has shown it overtime. One or two bad games cannot diminish that fact. He is good enough as a no.9 but just better and more influential as a no.10 (AM) and no.8 (SS). Also.... your comment on the national team being a cult is a strong comment to make. Without proof, it is a baseless comment to make. Period. forgiveness:
Hahahahahah! TheSuperNerd don vex.
Which players do I hate?
"he keeps making case for Solanke and Ajagun and we know why" kindly, please tell me why?
How am I running down a player?
Who is/are those players? Iheanacho?
Bia! My stance remains that Iheanacho is not a CF and many analyst has agreed to that obvious fact.
The boy is good as a SS or ATM. Is that that what you term running Iheanacho down ( I suppose he is the one you are referring to)?
Is it too difficult to see?
Did you see me mention Iheanacho should not be called to the national team or he is not good enough as a player?
Guy!! You have misunderstood and misinterpreted the whole argument to hate. Maka why, biko?
Why wake up the..... Na wa ooooooo. 2 Likes |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:15pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
forgiveness:
No 1
"He told sports.bwin.com : "I’m a massive believer in what a manager does rather than what he says and I’m sure he thinks and says that Kelechi is a great young talent but Guardiola’s actions make it clear that he doesn’t believe he’s good enough."
https://www.google.com.ng/url?url=/amp/www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/pep-guardiola-doesnt-think-kelechi-9603728.amp&rct=j&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwi577LK2NbUAhXBL1AKHRZ_DjUQFgggMAI&q=Iheanacho+is+not+good+enough+for+the+CF+position&usg=AFQjCNHdRpcmkTNDjWYCbadpuWdsfcmmnw
You asked for it. But I don't agree he is not good enough as a player but I don't think he is good enough as a CF in the Super Eagles Jersey. Chikena!
No 2,
Kelechi is best utilised as a support striker,” Ezenwere told Manchestereveningnews
“He can play as an attacking midfielder, and also play from the flanks. He is a natural left footer so can play from inside left.”
“He is good in taking free kicks,” he said. “It is 100 percent possible that he will score against Algeria.
“When he was in my team, almost all the competitions we participated he came out as highest goalscorer.
https://www.google.com.ng/url?url=/amp/www.goal.com/en-ng/amp/news/4110/nigerians-abroad/2016/10/12/28398962/iheanacho-played-out-of-position-at-manchester-city-says&rct=j&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwi577LK2NbUAhXBL1AKHRZ_DjUQFggnMAQ&q=Iheanacho+is+not+good+enough+for+the+CF+position&usg=AFQjCNFBFEvd7aSxD7ZLdp7Okfb96O2dcg
No 3
"But I like normally one striker, not two. Of course, when Sergio [Aguero] was injured, players play the game. But then Gabriel came and Sergio didn’t play, so the space is what it is. But it is going to happen this situation with Gabriel so Sergio can’t play all the games and, of course, he [Iheanacho] is going to help us."
https://www.google.com.ng/url?url=/amp/dailypost.ng/2017/03/01/like-one-striker-guardiola-speaks-iheanachos-snub/amp/&rct=j&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwi577LK2NbUAhXBL1AKHRZ_DjUQFggtMAY&q=Iheanacho+is+not+good+enough+for+the+CF+position&usg=AFQjCNG675Uyi85JmNE0MXl6O2F08uhtWg
This was the answer Guardiola gave for not playing Iheanacho. Take note that he emphasized on playing one striker. And he thinks Iheanacho is not the first or second choice. What does it mean?
No 4
The Super Eagles are now on the lookout for a new man to lead their attack as Kelechi Iheanacho has proved not to be the man to do so, top team officials have told only SCORENigeria
https://www.google.com.ng/url?url=http://scorenigeria.com.ng/2017/06/14/exclusive-eagles-shop-for-top-striker-iheanacho-not-the-man/&rct=j&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjoi7yv2tbUAhXIEVAKHaKoD_4QFggdMAE&q=Iheanacho+can%27t+play+as+a+striker+for+the+Super+Eagles&usg=AFQjCNFYvbyNiHdk1d38U7G2pr54Dh5oYg
Inner caucus.
No 5
"You can enjoy Kelechi more as a support striker because he is a creative player and a player that can make a difference anytime with assists or clear chances he can always covert that."
https://www.google.com.ng/url?url=http://www.authorityngr.com/2017/05/Iheanacho-not-a-top-striker-Success-tells-Rohr/&rct=j&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjoi7yv2tbUAhXIEVAKHaKoD_4QFggjMAM&q=Iheanacho+can%27t+play+as+a+striker+for+the+Super+Eagles&usg=AFQjCNHWw5onJ6LVeDiyDa7iXFnsFS7qOg
Co colleague Isaac Success has spoken. That second post says nothing. I doubt you even understand what you are posting. Guardiola normally likes playing with one striker unlike Pellegrini who plays with two strikers. There is no place that entails Guardiola does not believe Iheanacho can not play well as a striker. 1 Like |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:18pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
forgiveness:
No 1
"He told sports.bwin.com : "I’m a massive believer in what a manager does rather than what he says and I’m sure he thinks and says that Kelechi is a great young talent but Guardiola’s actions make it clear that he doesn’t believe he’s good enough."
https://www.google.com.ng/url?url=/amp/www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/pep-guardiola-doesnt-think-kelechi-9603728.amp&rct=j&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwi577LK2NbUAhXBL1AKHRZ_DjUQFgggMAI&q=Iheanacho+is+not+good+enough+for+the+CF+position&usg=AFQjCNHdRpcmkTNDjWYCbadpuWdsfcmmnw
You asked for it. But I don't agree he is not good enough as a player but I don't think he is good enough as a CF in the Super Eagles Jersey. Chikena!
No 2,
Kelechi is best utilised as a support striker,” Ezenwere told Manchestereveningnews
“He can play as an attacking midfielder, and also play from the flanks. He is a natural left footer so can play from inside left.”
“He is good in taking free kicks,” he said. “It is 100 percent possible that he will score against Algeria.
“When he was in my team, almost all the competitions we participated he came out as highest goalscorer.
https://www.google.com.ng/url?url=/amp/www.goal.com/en-ng/amp/news/4110/nigerians-abroad/2016/10/12/28398962/iheanacho-played-out-of-position-at-manchester-city-says&rct=j&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwi577LK2NbUAhXBL1AKHRZ_DjUQFggnMAQ&q=Iheanacho+is+not+good+enough+for+the+CF+position&usg=AFQjCNFBFEvd7aSxD7ZLdp7Okfb96O2dcg
No 3
"But I like normally one striker, not two. Of course, when Sergio [Aguero] was injured, players play the game. But then Gabriel came and Sergio didn’t play, so the space is what it is. But it is going to happen this situation with Gabriel so Sergio can’t play all the games and, of course, he [Iheanacho] is going to help us."
https://www.google.com.ng/url?url=/amp/dailypost.ng/2017/03/01/like-one-striker-guardiola-speaks-iheanachos-snub/amp/&rct=j&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwi577LK2NbUAhXBL1AKHRZ_DjUQFggtMAY&q=Iheanacho+is+not+good+enough+for+the+CF+position&usg=AFQjCNG675Uyi85JmNE0MXl6O2F08uhtWg
This was the answer Guardiola gave for not playing Iheanacho. Take note that he emphasized on playing one striker. And he thinks Iheanacho is not the first or second choice. What does it mean?
No 4
The Super Eagles are now on the lookout for a new man to lead their attack as Kelechi Iheanacho has proved not to be the man to do so, top team officials have told only SCORENigeria
https://www.google.com.ng/url?url=http://scorenigeria.com.ng/2017/06/14/exclusive-eagles-shop-for-top-striker-iheanacho-not-the-man/&rct=j&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjoi7yv2tbUAhXIEVAKHaKoD_4QFggdMAE&q=Iheanacho+can%27t+play+as+a+striker+for+the+Super+Eagles&usg=AFQjCNFYvbyNiHdk1d38U7G2pr54Dh5oYg
Inner caucus.
No 5
"You can enjoy Kelechi more as a support striker because he is a creative player and a player that can make a difference anytime with assists or clear chances he can always covert that."
https://www.google.com.ng/url?url=http://www.authorityngr.com/2017/05/Iheanacho-not-a-top-striker-Success-tells-Rohr/&rct=j&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjoi7yv2tbUAhXIEVAKHaKoD_4QFggjMAM&q=Iheanacho+can%27t+play+as+a+striker+for+the+Super+Eagles&usg=AFQjCNHWw5onJ6LVeDiyDa7iXFnsFS7qOg
Co colleague Isaac Success has spoken. The fourth post is another typical not well thought out post. Posting a rumor as fact. Is there any article quoting Rohr does not feel Iheanacho can not play well as a striker? This is just a rumor and you are posting it as fact. 1 Like |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:18pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
komekn:
Sentimental he is, aren't we all and yes sometimes can get overly exuberant.
But I do not necessarily dismiss what he says or do not take him seriously and I yes I don't always agree with him.
The word cult I want to presume doesn't have satanic undertones in the context he uses it. Rather referring to the NFF favouritism and preferences that lack objectivity. I don't think any reasonable Nigerian needs further explanation to be informed about the activities going in every areas of life in this country. Enough said. 1 Like |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:25pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
forgiveness:
No 1
"He told sports.bwin.com : "I’m a massive believer in what a manager does rather than what he says and I’m sure he thinks and says that Kelechi is a great young talent but Guardiola’s actions make it clear that he doesn’t believe he’s good enough."
https://www.google.com.ng/url?url=/amp/www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/pep-guardiola-doesnt-think-kelechi-9603728.amp&rct=j&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwi577LK2NbUAhXBL1AKHRZ_DjUQFgggMAI&q=Iheanacho+is+not+good+enough+for+the+CF+position&usg=AFQjCNHdRpcmkTNDjWYCbadpuWdsfcmmnw
You asked for it. But I don't agree he is not good enough as a player but I don't think he is good enough as a CF in the Super Eagles Jersey. Chikena!
No 2,
Kelechi is best utilised as a support striker,” Ezenwere told Manchestereveningnews
“He can play as an attacking midfielder, and also play from the flanks. He is a natural left footer so can play from inside left.”
“He is good in taking free kicks,” he said. “It is 100 percent possible that he will score against Algeria.
“When he was in my team, almost all the competitions we participated he came out as highest goalscorer.
https://www.google.com.ng/url?url=/amp/www.goal.com/en-ng/amp/news/4110/nigerians-abroad/2016/10/12/28398962/iheanacho-played-out-of-position-at-manchester-city-says&rct=j&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwi577LK2NbUAhXBL1AKHRZ_DjUQFggnMAQ&q=Iheanacho+is+not+good+enough+for+the+CF+position&usg=AFQjCNFBFEvd7aSxD7ZLdp7Okfb96O2dcg
No 3
"But I like normally one striker, not two. Of course, when Sergio [Aguero] was injured, players play the game. But then Gabriel came and Sergio didn’t play, so the space is what it is. But it is going to happen this situation with Gabriel so Sergio can’t play all the games and, of course, he [Iheanacho] is going to help us."
https://www.google.com.ng/url?url=/amp/dailypost.ng/2017/03/01/like-one-striker-guardiola-speaks-iheanachos-snub/amp/&rct=j&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwi577LK2NbUAhXBL1AKHRZ_DjUQFggtMAY&q=Iheanacho+is+not+good+enough+for+the+CF+position&usg=AFQjCNG675Uyi85JmNE0MXl6O2F08uhtWg
This was the answer Guardiola gave for not playing Iheanacho. Take note that he emphasized on playing one striker. And he thinks Iheanacho is not the first or second choice. What does it mean?
No 4
The Super Eagles are now on the lookout for a new man to lead their attack as Kelechi Iheanacho has proved not to be the man to do so, top team officials have told only SCORENigeria
https://www.google.com.ng/url?url=http://scorenigeria.com.ng/2017/06/14/exclusive-eagles-shop-for-top-striker-iheanacho-not-the-man/&rct=j&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjoi7yv2tbUAhXIEVAKHaKoD_4QFggdMAE&q=Iheanacho+can%27t+play+as+a+striker+for+the+Super+Eagles&usg=AFQjCNFYvbyNiHdk1d38U7G2pr54Dh5oYg
Inner caucus.
No 5
"You can enjoy Kelechi more as a support striker because he is a creative player and a player that can make a difference anytime with assists or clear chances he can always covert that."
https://www.google.com.ng/url?url=http://www.authorityngr.com/2017/05/Iheanacho-not-a-top-striker-Success-tells-Rohr/&rct=j&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjoi7yv2tbUAhXIEVAKHaKoD_4QFggjMAM&q=Iheanacho+can%27t+play+as+a+striker+for+the+Super+Eagles&usg=AFQjCNHWw5onJ6LVeDiyDa7iXFnsFS7qOg
Co colleague Isaac Success has spoken. Number 5, another big misconception.
You will enjoy Mikel more playing as a creative midfielder. That does not mean Mikel can not play as a quality defensive midfielder.
You will enjoy watching Iheanacho playing in a deeper role because he will see more of the ball and you will get to enjoy his delightful touches. That does not mean that Iheanacho can not deliver as a quality striker.
You can see you are spreading misconceptions all over the place.
Enjoying a player does not mean it is his best position. Iheanancho's best position for the team during a game is the position that will help the team win easily. At the moment we need him taking those killer shots and that is why Rohr plays him in front.
When Osimhen comes of age, which I expect will happen in the near future, I want both of them going at defenders with frightening pace.
Neymar plays very well as a left forward and exceptionally brilliant when he is in the nine role. Same for Messi and Sanchez. It is the modern game. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 5:25pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:
I do not get what you guys are talking.
Nacho is a forward that can play multiple roles and you select the best player for each role. At the moment, the striking position is key and Iheanacho is our best finisher. He should stay there because when we create loads, we need our best finishing.
One of the articles posted is from a coach talking of Iheanacho before the U17 World cup. Typical forgiveness posting not well thought out posts. You want us to take the decision of an amateur coach over highly paid professionals like Pellegrini and Vieira who played Nacho as a nine.
All the name Nacho has made so far in club football came as him playing as a striker. Forget the whole Guardiola talk in reference of Nacho's club football because he was doing it before Guardiola. I did highlight the part that I was talking about, the part that Guardiola said himself and this is a coach that has worked with a target man at Bayern Munich and a slippery nine at Barcelona and for him to tell you that this lad just doesn't cut it as a nine shows a lot. the sooner Nacho moves to another club and demands the SS role the better for us all, Rivaldo did it once 1 Like |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:29pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
jotey:
Don't mind them.They don't want China based players but they want Mikel and they are scared of bassagog Hahahahahah! The irony of..... 1 Like |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:31pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
Mickael2:
I did highlight the part that I was talking about, the part that Guardiola said himself and this is a coach that has worked with a target man at Bayern Munich and a slippery nine at Barcelona and for him to tell you that this lad just doesn't cut it as a nine shows a lot. the sooner Nacho moves to another club and demands the SS role the better for us all, Rivaldo did it once Your understanding of what you are reading is misleading you. Guardiola did not feel Bony will cut it at Manchester City. Does that mean Bony is not a number nine? You guys reason what you are reading before arguing. An Guardiola said normally I like one striker. He did not say Kelechi does not cut it as a nine. He is talking in respect of the competition in the club. Gabriel Jesus and Aguero are big competitions. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:34pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
forgiveness:
No 1
"He told sports.bwin.com : "I’m a massive believer in what a manager does rather than what he says and I’m sure he thinks and says that Kelechi is a great young talent but Guardiola’s actions make it clear that he doesn’t believe he’s good enough."
https://www.google.com.ng/url?url=/amp/www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/pep-guardiola-doesnt-think-kelechi-9603728.amp&rct=j&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwi577LK2NbUAhXBL1AKHRZ_DjUQFgggMAI&q=Iheanacho+is+not+good+enough+for+the+CF+position&usg=AFQjCNHdRpcmkTNDjWYCbadpuWdsfcmmnw
You asked for it. But I don't agree he is not good enough as a player but I don't think he is good enough as a CF in the Super Eagles Jersey. Chikena!
No 2,
Kelechi is best utilised as a support striker,” Ezenwere told Manchestereveningnews
“He can play as an attacking midfielder, and also play from the flanks. He is a natural left footer so can play from inside left.”
“He is good in taking free kicks,” he said. “It is 100 percent possible that he will score against Algeria.
“When he was in my team, almost all the competitions we participated he came out as highest goalscorer.
https://www.google.com.ng/url?url=/amp/www.goal.com/en-ng/amp/news/4110/nigerians-abroad/2016/10/12/28398962/iheanacho-played-out-of-position-at-manchester-city-says&rct=j&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwi577LK2NbUAhXBL1AKHRZ_DjUQFggnMAQ&q=Iheanacho+is+not+good+enough+for+the+CF+position&usg=AFQjCNFBFEvd7aSxD7ZLdp7Okfb96O2dcg
No 3
"But I like normally one striker, not two. Of course, when Sergio [Aguero] was injured, players play the game. But then Gabriel came and Sergio didn’t play, so the space is what it is. But it is going to happen this situation with Gabriel so Sergio can’t play all the games and, of course, he [Iheanacho] is going to help us."
https://www.google.com.ng/url?url=/amp/dailypost.ng/2017/03/01/like-one-striker-guardiola-speaks-iheanachos-snub/amp/&rct=j&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwi577LK2NbUAhXBL1AKHRZ_DjUQFggtMAY&q=Iheanacho+is+not+good+enough+for+the+CF+position&usg=AFQjCNG675Uyi85JmNE0MXl6O2F08uhtWg
This was the answer Guardiola gave for not playing Iheanacho. Take note that he emphasized on playing one striker. And he thinks Iheanacho is not the first or second choice. What does it mean?
No 4
The Super Eagles are now on the lookout for a new man to lead their attack as Kelechi Iheanacho has proved not to be the man to do so, top team officials have told only SCORENigeria
https://www.google.com.ng/url?url=http://scorenigeria.com.ng/2017/06/14/exclusive-eagles-shop-for-top-striker-iheanacho-not-the-man/&rct=j&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjoi7yv2tbUAhXIEVAKHaKoD_4QFggdMAE&q=Iheanacho+can%27t+play+as+a+striker+for+the+Super+Eagles&usg=AFQjCNFYvbyNiHdk1d38U7G2pr54Dh5oYg
Inner caucus.
No 5
"You can enjoy Kelechi more as a support striker because he is a creative player and a player that can make a difference anytime with assists or clear chances he can always covert that."
https://www.google.com.ng/url?url=http://www.authorityngr.com/2017/05/Iheanacho-not-a-top-striker-Success-tells-Rohr/&rct=j&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjoi7yv2tbUAhXIEVAKHaKoD_4QFggjMAM&q=Iheanacho+can%27t+play+as+a+striker+for+the+Super+Eagles&usg=AFQjCNHWw5onJ6LVeDiyDa7iXFnsFS7qOg
Co colleague Isaac Success has spoken. In the first one was Shaun Goater saying that he thinks Guardiola does not feel Iheanacho is as good as the other strikers available. Most notably Aguero. That is in no way saying that Iheanacho is not a good nine. Haba. Read well before posting.
Stop making this thread amateurish. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:37pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:
I do not get what you guys are talking.
Nacho is a forward that can play multiple roles and you select the best player for each role. At the moment, the striking position is key and Iheanacho is our best finisher. He should stay there because when we create loads, we need our best finishing.
One of the articles posted is from a coach talking of Iheanacho before the U17 World cup. Typical forgiveness posting not well thought out posts. You want us to take the decision of an amateur coach over highly paid professionals like Pellegrini and Vieira who played Nacho as a nine.
All the name Nacho has made so far in club football came as him playing as a striker. Forget the whole Guardiola talk in reference of Nacho's club football because he was doing it before Guardiola. @bolded 1, which of the article is before U17 World cup? @bolded 2, is Pelegrin better than Guardiola(though I don't trust him)? |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:41pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
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| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:42pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
forgiveness:
@bolded 1, which of the article is before U17 World cup?
@bolded 2, is Pelegrin better than Guardiola(though I don't trust him)? You did not even read the article you posted. You can see why I am complaining.
Imagine me saying we can not take the amateur Coach's suggestion over Pellegrini and Vieira. Then you say is Pellegrini better than Guardiola? As in, does that make any coherent sense in any way. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 5:49pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
Did Guardiola not play Iheanacho as a no.9?? And when Pep played him up top, did Nacho not deliver the goods for the most parts?? Did he not score goals?? So what are you even saying by asking if Pelle is better than pep?? I remember one of my problems with pep being that he only sees Nacho as a no.9 and a finisher and is even blind to his abilities an SS and AMF.... which he showed most especially against Southampton at the Etihad in the early pasts of the just concluded season. So are you saying Pep does not consider Nacho a no.9?? Na wa.... forgiveness:
@bolded 1, which of the article is before U17 World cup?
@bolded 2, is Pelegrin better than Guardiola(though I don't trust him)? |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 5:54pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
forgiveness:
Ideye, Martins and Kayode. EOD
Sorry, they are not good enough. Period! 2 Likes |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:02pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
TheSuperNerd:
Iheanacho is good as a CF but better as an SS and AMF.... that is what I have been saying for the past couple of posts now.
But shouting all over the thread that Iheanacho is useless as a CF is pure fallacy and I will not tolerate fallacy.
He is still the one player in the EPL with the best goals per mins ratio for strikers in the EPL since August 2015!!!!! That is no child's play and no small achievement for a player you say is not good enough or is useless as a CF/No.9.
So many Analysts and top sites have always acknowledged Iheanacho's impact as a no.9 even though some others state his most effective roles as an SS and an AM.
Telegraph UK in their comment on Iheanacho in their Prestigious best 50 U-21 players in the world today said this:
"Has had his first team time reduced under Pep Guardiola's management but Iheanacho is one of the best young strikers around. Has scored six goals in nine games for Nigeria and could well move out on loan this summer to play more football.
So many more top coaches, sites and analysts and pundits/Journos also acknowledge Nacho's impact as a no.9 even though I admit he is far more dangerous and far more influential as a no.10 and a no.8.
I am saying.... get your analysis right and make it very balanced.
You cannot term the deadliest no.9 and striker in the EPL since august 2015 not good enough or useless as a striker.
And you also cannot term the striker with the best Goals per mins ratio in EPL history for 10+ goals and more at a point before season's end "not good enough".
No need showing you the views of many others who acknowledge Nacho as a good no 9.
In a nutshell, Iheanacho is good enough as a no.9 and has shown it overtime. One or two bad games cannot diminish that fact.
He is good enough as a no.9 but just better and more influential as a no.10 (AM) and no.8 (SS).
Also.... your comment on the national team being a cult is a strong comment to make. Without proof, it is a baseless comment to make. Period.
Who is shouting upandan "Nacho is useless as a CF"? I said Nacho is not good enough for the CF position... in the National team (in addition). Chikena. From the quote, how many goals did Nacho score since he started playing as a CF for the Super Eagles? |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 6:25pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
Icon4s:
Sorry, they are not good enough. Period!
elder.....God bless you.
that Martins and anichebe inclusion make me laugh hard 1 Like |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 6:28pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
maidaboi:
and success was not plagued with injury abi?
Success against boro was the MOTM in the match he was just unplayable
and we have a'aron samuel who people have forget. I will pick him ahead of anichebe same anichebe who just signed for a second tier Chinese club. I don't understand these anichebe advocacy 1 Like |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:32pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
Cameroon Coach Admits – We Are Searching For Goal Scoring Striker Before Clash With Nigeria Cameroon coach Hugo Broos admits he is desperately searching for a goal scoring striker after his team missed several chances to draw 1-1 against Australia at the ongoing FIFA Confederations Cup. After their engagement in the Confederations Cup, Cameroon will take on Nigeria in the World Cup 2018 Qualifiers, where a positive result in the back to back clash will help their bid to overhaul group leaders Nigeria. However Broos is of the opinion that a positive result for his team could be dependant on finding a striker who guarantees goals, as that is what the team lacks at the moment. At the last Africa Cup of Nations which Cameroon won defend Michael Ngadeu-Ngadjui emerged as top scorer for the team with two goals out of the seven they scored at the Championship which they won in Gabon. ” If you have one (striker) in mind, please tell me his name and i’ll go straight away and see him”, Broos said in an interview picked up by Owngoalnigeria.com online editor. ” We’re searching, we’re searching, we’re searching and we keep on searching but you have to be able to find one. Someone who scores goals. “Yes, it’s very easy to say you haven’t got players who score, but you have to find them. You should known as someone from Cameroon that Cameroonian football is not as rich (in strikers) at the moment “, he said. **Ade Emmanuel Source: http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/06/24/cameroon-coach-admits-we-are-searching-for-goal-scoring-striker-before-clash-with-nigeria/ |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 6:34pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:
Your understanding of what you are reading is misleading you. Guardiola did not feel Bony will cut it at Manchester City. Does that mean Bony is not a number nine? You guys reason what you are reading before arguing. An Guardiola said normally I like one striker. He did not say Kelechi does not cut it as a nine. He is talking in respect of the competition in the club. Gabriel Jesus and Aguero are big competitions. the fact that they had to spend so much to buy another striker should be the answer. I mean if you have a good player why spend so much on another? |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:40pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:
That second post says nothing. I doubt you even understand what you are posting. Guardiola normally likes playing with one striker unlike Pellegrini who plays with two strikers. There is no place that entails Guardiola does not believe Iheanacho can not play well as a striker. Do you mean the 3rd post? Guardiola said he likes playing one striker when he was asked why Iheanacho is not playing. Why was Nacho not used when Aguero was injured? Why was Gabriel Jesus bought if he thinks he has the best striker in EPL in the person of Nacho? Why relegate Nacho out of the match day squad immediately Gabriel Jesus came to the team? Why play Sterling as striker when Gabriel and Aguero were injured? Why declare the best striker in the EPL surplus to requirement? Food for thought. As you have rightly said, Nacho performed well under Pelegrin because he used 2 strikers. EOD 1 Like |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:41pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
And I say he is good enough because the stats, Records and his performance indexes say so. Even his gameplays as a no.9 say so... He is good enough. Heck! Records don't lie... As for who shouts he is useless... that is Sir Goldfish80.... and as for who shouts he is not good enough... that is you and Sir Mickael2... and also some others who just wanna water down Nacho's impact as a no.9/top striker. Since August 2015, in the whole EPL... Nacho still boasts the best Goals per mins ratios as a striker/CF/No.9.... so how is he not good enough?? I keep saying it... and this is the finest and most balanced analysis on this so far. "Iheanacho is good enough as a CF/top striker/No.9 but is just better and far more influential as an SS and AM" What is there not to understand?? P.S: And yes, He has scored three goals as a top striker for the Super Eagles. Two are penalties. So you asked for goals in games he played as our no.9?? Yes he has scored Three... that is your answer. forgiveness:
Who is shouting upandan "Nacho is useless as a CF"?
I said Nacho is not good enough for the CF position... in the National team (in addition). Chikena.
From the quote, how many goals did Nacho score since he started playing as a CF for the Super Eagles? 2 Likes |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:43pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
Mickael2:
the fact that they had to spend so much to buy another striker should be the answer. I mean if you have a good player why spend so much on another?
The answer is so basic and self explanatory and does not deserve to be asked as a question.
Guardiola had Aguero one of the best striker in the World, bought Gabriel Jesus and dropped Aguero on the bench. Does that mean Aguero is not a good striker or is useless as a striker?
Na wa. 1 Like |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 6:45pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
TheSuperNerd:
Cameroon Coach Admits – We Are Searching For Goal Scoring Striker Before Clash With Nigeria
However Broos is of the opinion that a positive result for his team could be dependant on finding a striker who guarantees goals, as that is what the team lacks at the moment.
At the last Africa Cup of Nations which Cameroon won defend Michael Ngadeu-Ngadjui emerged as top scorer for the team with two goals out of the seven they scored at the Championship which they won in Gabon.
” If you have one (striker) in mind, please tell me his name and i’ll go straight away and see him”, Broos said in an interview picked up by Owngoalnigeria.com online editor.
**Ade Emmanuel
Source: http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/06/24/cameroon-coach-admits-we-are-searching-for-goal-scoring-striker-before-clash-with-nigeria/ Poor journalism. Misleading headline. |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:49pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
forgiveness:
Do you mean the 3rd post?
Guardiola said he likes playing one striker when he was asked why Iheanacho is not playing.
Why was Nacho not used when Aguero was injured?
Why was Gabriel Jesus bought if he thinks he has the best striker in EPL in the person of Nacho?
Why relegate Nacho out of the match day squad immediately Gabriel Jesus came to the team?
Why play Sterling as striker when Gabriel and Aguero were injured?
Why declare the best striker in the EPL surplus to requirement?
Food for thought.
As you have rightly said, Nacho performed well under Pelegrin because he used 2 strikers. EOD
You do not even understand the articles you post, that is why you are running up and down. Please tell me your Super Eagles target big men that will see bench at City. Even Bony and Dzeko found it difficult. That does not mean they can not play as strikers.
There is also style of play that suits a strategy. I would have gone into it but I feel there is no need. 1 Like |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:49pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
Victor Moses To Miss Chelsea Premier League Opener Vs Burnley, Cleared To Face Arsenal According to information gathered by allnigeriasoccer.com , Nigeria international Victor Moses might not be available for selection when Chelsea tackle Burnley in their first Premier League game of the new season. The right wing-back will be handed a one-game suspension by the Football Association following his sending off in the final of the Emirates FA Cup on May 27. Moses received a second yellow card in the 68th minute and was sent off by referee Anthony Taylor for diving in the penalty area without Arsenal's Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain making contact. Using Manchester United defender Chris Smalling as a case study, the England star was suspended for the opening game of the 2016-2017 campaign after he was sent off in the FA Cup final against Crystal Palace on May 21, 2016. Smalling's one-match ban did not include the FA Community Shield, and he missed the game versus Leicester City due to fitness concerns. Thus, Victor Moses is in contention to face Arsenal in the Community Shield on August 6. **Ifeanyi Emmanuel Source: http://allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=23526 1 Like |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:52pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
I always prefer Michael James' reports. I can manage Daniel Martins... but Ade Emmanuel don dey vex me small... but make I just pity am small... looolll gensteejay:
Poor journalism. Misleading headline. 1 Like |
| Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:54pm On Jun 24, 2017 |
TheSuperNerd:
And I say he is good enough because the stats, Records and his performance indexes say so. Even his gameplays as a no.9 say so...
He is good enough. Heck! Records don't lie...
As for who shouts he is useless... that is Sir Goldfish80.... and as for who shouts he is not good enough... that is you and Sir Mickael2... and also some others who just wanna water down Nacho's impact as a no.9/top striker.
Since August 2015, in the whole EPL... Nacho still boasts the best Goals per mins ratios as a striker/CF/No.9.... so how is he not good enough??
I keep saying it... and this is the finest and most balanced analysis on this so far.
"Iheanacho is good enough as a CF/top striker/No.9 but is just better and far more influential as an SS and AM"
What is there not to understand??
P.S: And yes, He has scored three goals as a top striker for the Super Eagles. Two are penalties. So you asked for goals in games he played as our no.9?? Yes he has scored Three... that is your answer.
Out of how many matches? If we consider it holistically, he scored only one goal(in any unofficial match) during the course of play, out of how many matches as a CF? That statistics is not good enough for the CF position. Period. |
