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Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by jeff1993: 8:29am On Jul 09, 2017 |
HybridMan:...Let's see their difference 1. Their Sin. Firstly, Jesus, according to the biblical record, was sinless whilst Mohammad, according to the Koranic record, was sinful. In Mecca Muhammad received a command about his sin: “Then have patience (O Muhammad). Lo! the promise of Allah is true. And ask forgiveness of thy sin and hymn the praise of thy Lord at fall of night and in the early hours.”(Surah 40:55) Thus, according to the Koran Muhammad was a sinner. Surah 48 also lends credence to the fact that Muhammad was a sinner: “That Allah may forgive you your sins of the past and the future and complete His Favour on you, and guide you on the Straight Path…” So, in other words Muhammad was very much like, according to the Koran, ordinary people as all humans are sinners. Sin signifies crime, offense, and any act having an evil result or intent. However, for the devout Muslim any atrocity or act committed by Muhammad is never wrong, unjust or sinful. Because of Muhammad’s revered position anything he does must be right, just, and sinless no matter what it is. Yet Jesus, according to the Bible, is sinless, in fact in one episode he asks those accusing him: “Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! Can you prove me guilty of any sin?” (John 8:45-46) Again, according to the book of 1 Peter we read that Jesus was sinless: “To this you [Christians] were called because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps. He committed no sin, and no deceit was found in his mouth.” (2:21-22 ) And in John 3:5 we read: “But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin.” The verdict is simple. The Koran revealed that Muhammad was a sinner. The Bible reveals that Jesus was morally perfect, incapable of sin. 2. Their Tombs. It is a historical fact that Jesus’ tomb was found to be empty by some of his women followers, as the Austrian scholar Jacob Kremer explains, “By far most exegetes hold firmly to the reliability of the biblical statements concerning the empty tomb” . William Lane Craig, philosopher and biblical exegete, concludes, “Taken together these eight considerations furnish powerful evidence that the tomb of Jesus was actually found empty on Sunday morning by a small group of his women followers. As a plain historical fact this seems to be amply attested” . A study published in the Journal for the Study of the Historical Jesus found that about 75% of New Testament Scholars believe that the empty tomb is a historical fact. In other words, the vast majority of experts in this historical field believe the Jesus body left his tomb. On top of this it was the earliest Christians (see the pre-Pauline creed of 1 Corinthians 15:1-11) that proclaimed Jesus’ resurrection, thus hinting at the empty tomb. Paul, whose letters we have, self admittedly persecuted the earliest Christian followers for proclaiming this message. Yet Muhammad’s body is still in his grave. 3. Their Deaths. When he was sick and dying in the arms of Aisha, Muhammad asked Allah for forgiveness and mercy for his soul before he died, “O Allah! Forgive me, and bestow Your Mercy on me, and let me meet the companions.” (Bukhari 724 ) Yet Jesus, according to the God of Christianity, was to die for man’s atonement and for the sins of the world. Jesus’ Earthy mission was self-described with authority, “I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance” (Luke 5:32, Matthew 9:13, Mark 2:17). At all times, unlike Muhammad, Jesus knew exactly what was expected of him, and what his mission was. Jesus even knew where he was going after his death – back to heaven where he originally came from. We see as such in Luke 23:43 where Jesus spoke to the criminal crucified next to him answered, “I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise.” He also says he came to give his life a ransom for many (Mark 10:25), and that his blood is the blood of the New Convenant that was sacrificed for us (Mark 14:24). Jesus death was planned and saved humanity from the penalty of sin. Muhammad, however, died of sickness. 2 Likes |
Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by victorazy(m): 8:31am On Jul 09, 2017 |
Rucheen: my bele o! |
Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by hopefulLandlord: 8:34am On Jul 09, 2017 |
Zither: and this god is the god that made Israelites his own people, likes mount horeb? is this the god sent his son/himself (depending on which confused sect of Christianity you ask)? came down and rapes one of his children to impregnate her with himself so he can be born and commit suicide to forgive us for rib woman clone getting dirt man to eat an apple that a talking snake tempted them with. Even though he killed everyone except some Noah Dude and his inbred family over the same thing centuries before. |
Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by Zither(m): 8:34am On Jul 09, 2017 |
Liability: He may or may not be an atheist or a Muslim or of the traditional African belief but he is obviously a non-Christian hence ignorance is bound in his statement regarding the Christian Faith. |
Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by victorazy(m): 8:36am On Jul 09, 2017 |
Karlovich: White man yet he hears my local language? Do I pray with only Arabic? Jesus is not a white man because he speaks my own language not me learning his Arabic his own language The person your listening to is doing u more harm than what acid is doing iron. 1 Like |
Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by Collyno82(m): 8:37am On Jul 09, 2017 |
NwaAmaikpe:hahaha agbara n'eje uka 1 Like |
Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by hopefulLandlord: 8:40am On Jul 09, 2017 |
Liability:No! both Christianity and Islam are bullsheeet!
both your imaginary friends (Yahweh, Jesus, Holy spirit, Paul) and your imaginary friends (Satan, Lucifer, Devil, Demons) don't exist; although they exist in your imaginary world have you heard about "The Great tantra challenge"? an atheist challenged a spiritualist to kill him and the spiritualist failed https://www.nairaland.com/3381868/indian-atheist-challenges-spiritualist-kill#49823451
you must be a mind reader to know Seun worships your imaginary enemy 1 Like |
Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by hopefulLandlord: 8:40am On Jul 09, 2017 |
jeff1993: A Jew did not die for a Nigerian |
Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by uvalued(m): 8:41am On Jul 09, 2017 |
ogunwalea: if he ever said that i disagree... God aint so limited like men... if he is trying to equate ... how do you reconcile this scenario
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Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by Zither(m): 8:42am On Jul 09, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: The distance between you and comprehension of the Word of God is like the distance between Mercury and Neptune. You did this to yourself. I cannot help you. |
Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by hopefulLandlord: 8:45am On Jul 09, 2017 |
Zither:says someone who believes in talking snakes and donkeys the Jews did this to you, you can help yourself |
Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by almarthins(m): 8:46am On Jul 09, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: Kip fooling ur n believe ur are doing ur fellow atheist a well calculated service. An exorcist once said to believe God exist , u must first have encounter with d devil. Perhaps, u have never lived in the remotest wilderness to notice this extra celestial creatures in terrestrial terrain. When come very close to one tell him this rubbish he will give u the details of ur forefathers n how dey migrated. Tell u all ur life history like he had bn following u every step of the way. U never see any thing kwantinue! |
Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by victorazy(m): 8:49am On Jul 09, 2017 |
NwaAmaikpe: Your just deceiving yourself my brother, stop wallowing in ignorance I will advice u. Your just quoting verses u don't really know their interpretations. Who told you no one knows what is in God's mind? why do God referred David as "man after my heart" ? God has uppermost secrets YES but saying no one has clew of God's mind is wrong. "Get the conviction yourself and don't let any pastor tell u" is obvious your immature. For your info "Faith comes by hearing" how can u be convinced when u don't hear? and how can u hear when u cannot listen? how can u listen when u don't believe pastors? how can you believe God when you don't believe true pastor who he sent, who u can see but claim to believe God who u cannot see? |
Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by Liability(m): 8:51am On Jul 09, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:lies are internal gift for the children of the devil. Tom cruise says he is an atheist yet he formed a cult of scientology. Madonna said she does believe in the existence of God but she is involve in kabbala worship same with many lost souls including seun. I just pity him. |
Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by NwaAmaikpe: 8:52am On Jul 09, 2017 |
victorazy: Choose what you want to believe and suit yourself. After all, it was sane individuals that drank petrol at the instruction of their pastor. Sheeple |
Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by hopefulLandlord: 8:52am On Jul 09, 2017 |
almarthins:hopefullandlord once said to believe Superman exist , u must first have encounter with Lex Luthor fits perfectly hard to comprehend this post, maybe you typed it in the spirit |
Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by Liability(m): 8:53am On Jul 09, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:what do u believe in? |
Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by hopefulLandlord: 8:58am On Jul 09, 2017 |
Liability:let's look at the big lie your dead Jew told in the Holy Babble “For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds. Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom. “ (Matthew 16: 27, 28) yeah, those guys he was talking to are still alive 2017 years later, am I right?
I'm not Tom Cruise, Madonna is not me, Seun is neither Tom nor Madonna Atheism has no creed, no doctrine, so don't make the mistake of equating all of us in one box; boxes are meant for the likes of you that are controlled by some book written by goat herders 1 Like |
Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by victorazy(m): 8:59am On Jul 09, 2017 |
NwaAmaikpe: On last day many false prophets shall emerged. "My people perish because of lack of knowledge" but this one is foolishness, how can person instruct me to drink petrol knowing very well is detrimental to my health, is not food nor medicine. common sense na. Satan and his agents are here to steal, kill and to destroy. by their footsteps we shall know them. Plz change who u listen to bro |
Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by Walehelt(m): 9:00am On Jul 09, 2017 |
Rucheen: Finish him |
Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by Liability(m): 9:01am On Jul 09, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:oga go sit down one side. U dont know anytin about world atheists. |
Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by Liability(m): 9:03am On Jul 09, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:what do u believe in? Answer ooo |
Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by hopefulLandlord: 9:04am On Jul 09, 2017 |
Liability: there no such thing as "World atheists", its like saying "World cars" then asserting every car as Kia Rio 1 Like |
Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by potent5(m): 9:04am On Jul 09, 2017 |
ogunwalea:Bros, you are not too harsh. You merely stated the obvious. Some times you need to be harsh to drive your point home. We need more people who reason like this, especially in Nigeria. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by hopefulLandlord: 9:06am On Jul 09, 2017 |
Liability: I believe in seeking knowledge and not been controlled by goat herders who claim to have found it when they didn't know where the sun went at night |
Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by Unimaginable123: 9:10am On Jul 09, 2017 |
Rucheen:Haba. Do we have black Jews? |
Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by victorazy(m): 9:11am On Jul 09, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: is like your interested of being a Christian cuz I wonder why u read the Bible, me I can't feel comfortable reading Quran knowing very well it can't benefit me anything. I was surprised when I went for construction work in remote village in Bauchi state and their king (Muslim) told me he have a Bible. Jesus is waiting for you guys to come to Him is the reason he never come yet. |
Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by Ogalanyachieze: 9:15am On Jul 09, 2017 |
Christians? What about muslims did God not give them brains too why is this topic not addressed to them too on a friday why today to christians as if na only our own pass. Make it general |
Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by Heavance(m): 9:17am On Jul 09, 2017 |
The guy above stating plenty things sha..... John 14:6 will help too 2. Jesus didn't eat pork, so Muslims don't too. As Christ Jesus didn't eat Eba, salad, shawarma etc so make we no chop am too because we are Christian. Aside being dirty (which animal is neat sef), it is because of the demonic spirit Jesus casted into swine then, that's why some Christians avoid pork. 3. The language spoken in Isreal, doesn't mean you can't praise God or say your "peace be onto you in your English, Hausa, Ibibio, calabar and so on, God understands all languages, so you praying only in Arabic doesn't mean you are like Christ. 5. You can do same, but Christians don't have a count on how many times they can pray. if you like, you can call on your Father a 100 times, another could just twice. 6. You could pray bowing to God, your face up in plea, or you on your knees. 7. Are you saying we shouldn't cut our beards or keep them neat, time has changed you know. 9. In modesty, headscarf (not hijab), its the tradition for women to be dressed that way, not because of religion. If you want to continue such, why don't you tell an engineer/banker/lawyer to dress as you see it in the time of Christ? 10. Christians can't replicate that kind of fasting Christ Jesus or Moses went through, let's not even go there, as we know the way Muslims do their fasting. 13. same as 3, if you call him Olorun, Oghene, Chineke, God, Jehovah, Olowogbogboro. |
Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by hopefulLandlord: 9:18am On Jul 09, 2017 |
victorazy: I was once a Christian |
Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by victorazy(m): 9:37am On Jul 09, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: Is not bad to lost your way when ur embarking on a journey but is bad to remain in unplanned destination. As I said, your good in Bible my brother. I don't know your story or ur situation and environment, all I can tell u is that tell ur heart the truth, look round and decipher. For me o, nothing can make me leave the greatest for the lowest. My people says "A na-ahara ebe ana-echi ozo gawa ebe ana-aru agwu"? meaning: Do they leave where coronation is happening to visit where sacrifice is been taking place. Ask me anything u want to know and I will tell u. Your too precious to God cuz I can even feel it. What type of landlord u wanna be? 1 Like |
Re: Major Mistake Made By Christians by hopefulLandlord: 9:40am On Jul 09, 2017 |
victorazy: https://www.nairaland.com/3844519/meaninglessness-deep-personal-relationship-jesus |
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