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Being A Full Hijabite Plus A Footballer, Outter The Fold Of Islam? by Ridah(f): 7:05pm On Jul 13, 2017
Salam Alaikum Waramotullah Wabarakatuhu.
This Stuff Has Really Being Bothering Me, How Is It Possible To Stay Within And Not Outter Islam.
Soccer Has Always Been My Favourite Sport Right From The Cradle(lol). As In, Its Part Of Me. I Just Know How To Play Football Naturally, Alhamdulillah. But In Later Years I Adopted The Use Of Full Jilbab And U Know; Nothing Like Intermigling With Opp Sex. So I Had To Get An "health" Ball Just To Catch Fun Maybe Twice In A Month. Despite, Those Skills And Strategy Are Still Part Of Me. After My Jogging This Evening, That Urge Of Pursuing That Football Career "Fall On Me Again" Don't Mind Me Jare.

I Need Yah Advise Peeps. Does It Makes Sense Or Not?

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Re: Being A Full Hijabite Plus A Footballer, Outter The Fold Of Islam? by Ridah(f): 7:08pm On Jul 13, 2017
Maclatunji Lexiconkabir Empiree Others.... Ya Candid Say On It.
Wallahu Ta'ala Alam
Re: Being A Full Hijabite Plus A Footballer, Outter The Fold Of Islam? by Mofpearl: 7:29pm On Jul 13, 2017
Wa alaykum salam wa rahmatullah wa baraktu sis. If you mean being a professional football player like the ones we see on TV then let the football career fall somewhere else lol.

1) It would be impossible to play football with proper hijab.

2) You will play infront of an audience which will include both males and females and I don't think this is from shyness.

You can always play footballwith other women or your family. I have to say it seems like you care about your health (going jogging) and I admire that.

Modified*
[s]Lexiconkabir is an old moniker. Abdelkabir is the new one.[/s]

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Re: Being A Full Hijabite Plus A Footballer, Outter The Fold Of Islam? by Alennsar(f): 7:47pm On Jul 13, 2017
ah! Wat can I say now but all I know is dat anything dat will leave you expose is not Islamic

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Re: Being A Full Hijabite Plus A Footballer, Outter The Fold Of Islam? by Nobody: 7:49pm On Jul 13, 2017
Since she already made an appropriate contribution, then I'll say: even if you were engaged in playing football as a career which is haraam and a sin anyways due to the things involved especially as a woman, it wouldn't take you out of the fold of Islam........

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Re: Being A Full Hijabite Plus A Footballer, Outter The Fold Of Islam? by Rashduct4luv(m): 8:25pm On Jul 13, 2017
I love this bro above me for Allah' sake.

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Re: Being A Full Hijabite Plus A Footballer, Outter The Fold Of Islam? by Nobody: 8:51pm On Jul 13, 2017
Rashduct4luv:
I love this bro above me for Allah' sake.

Jazakallaah khayran, baarakallaahu feek
Re: Being A Full Hijabite Plus A Footballer, Outter The Fold Of Islam? by maclatunji: 8:54pm On Jul 13, 2017
AbdelKabir:
Since she already made an appropriate contribution, then I'll say: even if you were engaged in playing football as a career which is haraam and a sin anyways due to the things involved especially as a woman, it wouldn't take you out of the fold of Islam........

This your Fatwa na wa O

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Re: Being A Full Hijabite Plus A Footballer, Outter The Fold Of Islam? by maclatunji: 9:00pm On Jul 13, 2017
This is a very detailed explanation on the matter. It is not the sports itself that is the problem but the danger is the exposure https://islamqa.info/en/115676

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Re: Being A Full Hijabite Plus A Footballer, Outter The Fold Of Islam? by Mofpearl: 9:05pm On Jul 13, 2017
^^
Jazakallahu Khran for the link
Re: Being A Full Hijabite Plus A Footballer, Outter The Fold Of Islam? by Nobody: 9:06pm On Jul 13, 2017
maclatunji:


This your Fatwa na wa O

My fatwa as how? Which fatwa have I brought when I'm not a student of knowledge not to talk of a scholar? What's "Nawa" about it, I should've said playing football takes her out of Islam?

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Re: Being A Full Hijabite Plus A Footballer, Outter The Fold Of Islam? by maclatunji: 9:11pm On Jul 13, 2017
AbdelKabir:


My fatwa as how? Which fatwa have I brought when I'm not a student of knowledge not to talk of a scholar? What's "Nawa" about it, I should've said playing football takes her out of Islam?

Your Fatwa is saying that playing football professionally is a sin. I just don't have evidence for that.

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Re: Being A Full Hijabite Plus A Footballer, Outter The Fold Of Islam? by maclatunji: 9:12pm On Jul 13, 2017
Mofpearl:
^^
Jazakallahu Khran for the link

Wa iyyakum.

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Re: Being A Full Hijabite Plus A Footballer, Outter The Fold Of Islam? by Nobody: 9:20pm On Jul 13, 2017
maclatunji:


Your Fatwa is saying that playing football professionally is a sin. I just don't have evidence for that.

OK, so she can play football professionally according to you?
Re: Being A Full Hijabite Plus A Footballer, Outter The Fold Of Islam? by Nobody: 9:29pm On Jul 13, 2017
Ordinarily the issue of playing football professionally being prohibited shouldn't be an issue to be talked on as it's evident why it should be prohibited, from gambling, to awrah being exposed, missing of salaah and so on.....but since we live in a society where many Muslims don't care about gaining knowledge about their religion and people who strive to do so and apply it are seen as extremists, then it become a must to talk about it.....

Since you presented a fatwa from islamqa, then I hope you also accept this https://islamqa.info/en/75644

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Re: Being A Full Hijabite Plus A Footballer, Outter The Fold Of Islam? by maclatunji: 9:18am On Jul 14, 2017
^The site itself admits it has no textual backing for the claim https://islamqa.info/en/22305
Re: Being A Full Hijabite Plus A Footballer, Outter The Fold Of Islam? by Nobody: 9:31am On Jul 14, 2017
maclatunji:
^The site itself admits it has no textual backing for the claim https://islamqa.info/en/22305.


The page doesn't exist.....

Is gambling involved or not? How bout exposure of the awrah? When its time for salaah, do they stop the match, go to pray, then come back for the continuation?

Also are you telling us she can play football professionally even tho we all know the things involved?

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Re: Being A Full Hijabite Plus A Footballer, Outter The Fold Of Islam? by maclatunji: 10:52am On Jul 14, 2017
AbdelKabir:


The page doesn't exist.....

Is gambling involved or not? How bout exposure of the awrah? When its time for salaah, do they stop the match, go to pray, then come back for the continuation?

Also are you telling us she can play football professionally even tho we all know the things involved?

Too bad you cannot view the page, I am though. You are just getting yourself worked-up over nothing. So if a Muslim country organizes a league for its women adhering to Islamic rules, you will go and import gambling into it by force? #LOL

Click the link again to view the page.

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Re: Being A Full Hijabite Plus A Footballer, Outter The Fold Of Islam? by Nobody: 11:14am On Jul 14, 2017
maclatunji:


Too bad you cannot view the page, I am though. You are just getting yourself worked-up over nothing.

I'm not getting worked up, I am only relaying what the people of knowledge have said, if you term that "getting worked up", na you sabi....

So if a Muslim country organizes a league for its women adhering to Islamic rules, you will go and import gambling into it by force? #LOL

I initially made my post specifically for women playing football PROFESSIONALLY, you took the understanding to be general for both men and women, when I brought things that made people of knowledge consider it haraam for both men and women(which was not the original intention), you are coming back to women in Islamic countries..... OK

1.) Can you mention any of such games?

2.) If gambling is out of it, how bout the women displaying themselves for everyone to see?

3.) Do they stop the match when its time for salaah?

4.) I HOPE YOU KNOW THE MEANING OF PLAYING FOOTBALL PROFESSIONALLY? cuz the scenario you are driving at might not fit into that description...


Click the link again to view the page.

OK, I've checked it this time, wonder why it wasn't working at first....perhaps the "dot" you added initially...

With all due respect, what the shaykh said there is not meant for "professional footballers" rather for those that play it as just a game, what points to this is the restrictions that followed it......

Pls let's be sincere in all our actions....

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Re: Being A Full Hijabite Plus A Footballer, Outter The Fold Of Islam? by maclatunji: 11:28am On Jul 14, 2017
AbdelKabir:


I'm not getting worked up, I am only relaying what the people of knowledge have said, if you term that "getting worked up", na you sabi....



I initially made my post specifically for women playing football PROFESSIONALLY, you took the understanding to be general for both men and women, when I brought things that made people of knowledge consider it haraam for both men and women(which was not the original intention), you are coming back to women in Islamic countries..... OK

1.) Can you mention any of such games?

2.) If gambling is out of it, how bout the women displaying themselves for everyone to see?

3.) Do they stop the match when its time for salaah?

4.) I HOPE YOU KNOW THE MEANING OF PLAYING FOOTBALL PROFESSIONALLY? cuz the scenario you are driving at might not fit into that description...




OK, I've checked it this time, wonder why it wasn't working at first....perhaps the "dot" you added initially...

With all due respect, what the shaykh said there is not meant for "professional footballers" rather for those that play it as just a game, what points to this is the restrictions that followed it......

Pls let's be sincere in all our actions....

And I have said there's no basis to make the claim that professional football is forbidden in Islam.

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Re: Being A Full Hijabite Plus A Footballer, Outter The Fold Of Islam? by Nobody: 11:36am On Jul 14, 2017
maclatunji:


And I have said there's no basis to make the claim that professional football is forbidden in Islam.

Sorry there is basis....and I've mentioned what the people of knowledge mentioned about it, the link you brought also testified to it......if by "basis" you mean you are looking for where it was said in the Qur'an that "O ye who believe, do not play football professionally..." then that's not logical.....when I say it has basis I mean after looking at what it involves, they are prohibited things, and as ahlul ilm usually say, anything that leads to prohibition is also a prohibition......

Ma'a salaam.

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Re: Being A Full Hijabite Plus A Footballer, Outter The Fold Of Islam? by Mofpearl: 11:42am On Jul 14, 2017
Thought I might post this here.

http://torontodawah.com/ruling-on-pursuing-sports-as-a-profession-and-earning-a-salary-from-playing-shaykh-saalih-al-fawzaan-and-ibn-qayyim-al-jawziyya/


http://alifta.com/Search/ResultDetails.aspx?languagename=en&lang=en&view=result&fatwaNum=&FatwaNumID=&ID=5637&searchScope=7&SearchScopeLevels1=&SearchScopeLevels2=&highLight=1&SearchType=exact&SearchMoesar=false&bookID=&LeftVal=0&RightVal=0&simple=&SearchCriteria=allwords&PagePath=&siteSection=1&searchkeyword=070079079084066065076076#firstKeyWordFound


About receiving money for games
http://www.fatwaislam.com/fis/index.cfm?scn=fd&ID=793



Thus it is clear that taking football as a profession as it exists nowadays is haraam, because it includes things that are forbidden in Islam, even if playing football is basically permissible.

This applies especially if we realize what is involved in taking football as a profession, such as travelling to kaafir countries to play against international teams. It is obvious to everyone what kind of kufr, evil and sin is present in those countries, and it is also well known that the players are exposed to the temptations of women and desires because of their fame, stardom and wealth.
From islamqa.

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Re: Being A Full Hijabite Plus A Footballer, Outter The Fold Of Islam? by Nobody: 11:55am On Jul 14, 2017
I hope it won't be called my fatwa again.......I really find that offensive...
Re: Being A Full Hijabite Plus A Footballer, Outter The Fold Of Islam? by Ridah(f): 9:00am On Jul 19, 2017
To Ur Lovely Contributions!

Barakallahu Feekum...
Re: Being A Full Hijabite Plus A Footballer, Outter The Fold Of Islam? by Empiree: 8:39pm On Jul 19, 2017
Be like say newnas don get banned by robot and i know why. The reason is bcus he is trying to innovate in the religion mua grin grin mua grin mua grin grin ahaha grin grin grin grin and he got caught up by anti-spambot. That's good. We can take a break from him for a while. cheesy




Now to Miss Ridah, go woman. You want to play sport?. Your predecessor, Umm Aisha(RA) also did. Nabi (saw) actually wrestled Mekkan champion named Rukaana. You know "Alabama slammer" in the World Wrestling Entertainment?, the white dude from Alabama?. His finishing move was slamming his opponent's' back onto the ground and the counts 1, 2, 3 and he wins. Exactly how the prophet(SAW) defeated Rukaana, the mekkan champ.

No one in the whole of Mekka ever slammed Rukaana like that. Nabi beat him up and he accepted islam afterward. So go girl. Get right in the sport and bring me that trophy grin grin

As for your obligations, well, Allah is Ar-Rahman, Ar-Rahim. If your schedule falls within gaming, waste no time to make it up ASAP afterward. Lots of people miss salat anyways even while doing nothing and they decided to make it up later. In any case, none of these fall within ahkam of sharia to delaying salat. Just bring me that trophy and donuts on your way home cheesy cheesy cheesy

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Re: Being A Full Hijabite Plus A Footballer, Outter The Fold Of Islam? by Newnas(m): 2:43pm On Jul 20, 2017
@Empiree, well your joke was funny. and I was funny but wasn't innovating.

The messenger alyhissolaat wassalam wrestled rukanah because wrestling and similar physical strengths assist in the cause of jihad.

please revise Ibnul Qoyyim's foroosiyyah for explanation.
Re: Being A Full Hijabite Plus A Footballer, Outter The Fold Of Islam? by MrOlai: 6:17pm On Jul 20, 2017
Empiree:


Now to Miss Ridah, go woman. You want to play sport?. Your predecessor, Umm Aisha(RA) also did.

Evidence for this please?
Re: Being A Full Hijabite Plus A Footballer, Outter The Fold Of Islam? by MrOlai: 6:18pm On Jul 20, 2017
^^
I hope you will defend the sister on the day of Qiyamah!

You're encouraging Hijab sister to go into professional football!

What about her Hijab?

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Re: Being A Full Hijabite Plus A Footballer, Outter The Fold Of Islam? by tintingz(m): 6:25pm On Jul 20, 2017
Women belongs to the kitchen and other room ~ President Muhammadu Buhari 2016

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Re: Being A Full Hijabite Plus A Footballer, Outter The Fold Of Islam? by tintingz(m): 6:31pm On Jul 20, 2017
Op don't let anybody deceive you, go for your dream and be happy, your playing football doesn't stop you from wearing hijab, you won't go to hell fire, Allah is a merciful and forgiven God. grin







Make the Muslim women proud.

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Re: Being A Full Hijabite Plus A Footballer, Outter The Fold Of Islam? by Empiree: 6:38pm On Jul 20, 2017
MrOlai:


Evidence for this please?
you can help yourself buddy

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