In 2006 EC (2014 GC), an erect statue of a hand holding a breast was opened for viewing in the Arsi Zone of Oromia Region of Ethiopia.

The reason for erecting this statue is to memorize the Arsi Oromo women/girl whose breasts were chopped after the Ethiopian army re-conquered the lost territory of the Arsi area in 1887 GC.

Most Oromos mainly blame the then Shewa King Menelik and his Amhara soldiers for this atrocity. But in truth, Menelik army during the SW, S and SE expansion to re-unite the lost territories were made of multiethnic soldiers and majority of them even were Oromos themselves.

During the brutal migration of Oromos from Bale and Sidama(SE Ethiopia) to all directions of Ethiopia from the 16th to earth 18th century AD and settlements in the new areas, they had mutated the reproductive organs and breasts of many thousands of Amhara and other Ethiopian men and women respectively. Their are some elder Oromos nowadays who even proudly present the mutated male reproductive that were passed to them from by their ancestors.

On the other hand, there is no concrete evidence/s that associate Amhara ppl in chopping breasts as a punishment in any point of their History.

So, how can the victimizers Oromos say they were the victim?

So, all things point out that it was the Oromo soldiers in representing Menelik army that mostly committed this atrocity. I'm not saying no Amhara elites and soldiers didn't participated in this, but isn't unacceptable to solely or mostly blame them and if we truly blame, let either mostly blame the Oromo soldiers and elites or equally blame the Oromo, Amhara and other Ethiopian elites and soldiers who participate in it.

It's also not good idea to erect the statue in the first place, because this is being used by the terrorist organization "OLF (Oromo Leberation Front)" in motivating Oromos in Ethiopia and abroad to hate Amharas ppl and Ethiopian identity.
It's also unfair to remember only this atrocity, but not remember this kind of atrocity that was committed against Amharas and other Ethiopians by Oromos in the 16th, 17th, 18th and half of 19th century AD.

I'm coming

Beyhiodie:
I'm coming

Is it to see the statue?

that thing be lyk bomb

Crazy things happened in the history of Ethiopia

marshalcarter:
that thing be lyk bomb

lol

No, it's a chopped breast

Muafrika2:
Crazy things happened in the history of Ethiopia

During the 19th and 20th century AD in Ethiopia, there was a famous saying, "Is it Human or Galla(Oromo)?"
It was totally inappropriate.

what??...........what sort of crazy animals did that sh!t in 1887?

Hati13:

During the 19th and 20th century AD in Ethiopia, there was a famous saying, "Is it Human or Galla(Oromo)?"
It was totally inappropriate.

You know, we call them waGalla in Kenya. What exactly does the name mean? There is a Swahili saying that loosely translates to "kill the Galla but give him his right!"

Muafrika2:

You know, we call them waGalla in Kenya. What exactly does the name mean? There is a Swahili saying that loosely translates to "kill the Galla but give him his right!"

"galla" isn't Amharic word, but for the Amharas back then it ment "pagan, savage, barbarous and subhuman."

From who the Abysinnians borrowed the word "galla" isn't precisely known, but some say they borrowed it from Somalians or Nilotics in Western Ethiopia or from others.

Is it in recent centuries the Swahili Kenyans started to refer Oromos by the term "galla"?

You told me once that the Oromos in Kenya are mostly at fight with other Kenyans. Is the Swahili saying you mentioned being used normally today or not?

Hati13:

"galla" isn't Amharic word, but for the Amharas back then it ment "pagan, savage, barbarous and subhuman."

From who the Abysinnians borrowed the word "galla" isn't precisely known, but some say they borrowed it from Somalians or Nilotics in Western Ethiopia or from others.

Is it in recent centuries the Swahili Kenyans started to refer Oromos by the term "galla"?

You told me once that the Oromos in Kenya are mostly at fight with other Kenyans. Is the Swahili saying you mentioned being used normally today or not?

I see .

The Oromo wars in Kenya are not as serious as yours. They are mostly interclan, fight for pasture and water, and afew closely related inter tribal conflicts (these always attract govt intervention before they get so grave.) There was also the infamous Wagalla massacre blamed on a previous govt. It was an extension of the Shifta war I think.

The Swahili saying is very much in use. I don't know how recent it is. But the Swahili had a very early encounter with the Oromos who border the former Coast Province. There were many pre colonial fights and struggles between them and some coastal cities.

Muafrika2:

I see .

The Oromo wars in Kenya are not as serious as yours. They are mostly interclan, fight for pasture and water, and afew closely related inter tribal conflicts (these always attract govt intervention before they get so grave.) There was also the infamous Wagalla massacre blamed on a previous govt. It was an extension of the Shifta war I think.

The Swahili saying is very much in use. I don't know how recent it is. But the Swahili had a very early encounter with the Oromos who border the former Coast Province. There were many pre colonial fights and struggles between them and some coastal cities.

Thanks for the explanation.

How many Oromos died in Wagalla massacre?

Hati13:

Thanks for the explanation.

How many Oromos died in Wagalla massacre?

A few thousand. Different numbers have been thrown around.

How is Oromo Liberation Front a terrorist group?
When does Self determination equate to Terrorism?
I don't know much about the ancient treatment of the Oromos, but Oromos have the right for self determination

EmeeNaka:
How is Oromo Liberation Front a terrorist group?
When does Self determination equate to Terrorism?
I don't know much about the ancient treatment of the Oromos, but Oromos have the right for self determination

OLF had killed many thousands of Amharas and other Christian Ethiopians in Arsi, Hararghe and other province in the year 1983/84 EC (1991/92 GC) by:-
- Slaughtering them like animals
- forced them to jump high cliffs

They were also the one behind for some of the Oromo death in the recent unrest in Oromia region.

They are anti-Amhara and their officals had repeatedly state that their main aim is to completely annihilate the Amhara ppl.

Even the current Tigray dominated Ethiopian Fedral gov't who participated in the genocide of Amharas had categorized them as a terrorist organization.

• Genocide of Amharas by OLF in Bedeno
- a dead Amhara child with sliced throat
- mass Amhara children slaughtered
- a beheaded Amhara woman
- a slaughtered pregnant Amhara woman

Hati13:

OLF had killed many thousands of Amharas and other Christian Ethiopians in Arsi, Hararghe and other province in the year 1983/84 EC (1991/92 GC) by:-
- Slaughtering them like animals
- forced them to jump high cliffs

They were also the one behind for some of the Oromo death in the recent unrest in Oromia region.

They are anti-Amhara and their officals had repeatedly state that their main aim is to completely annihilate the Amhara ppl.

Even the current Tigray dominated Ethiopian Fedral gov't who participated in the genocide of Amharas had categorized them as a terrorist organization.

• Genocide of Amharas by OLF in Bedeno
- a dead Amhara child with sliced throat
- mass Amhara children slaughtered
- a beheaded Amhara woman
- a slaughtered pregnant Amhara woman

Most of the allegations you levelled against OLF is just like what any govt would do to discredit any organization seeking self determination.
The OLF has denied all these accusations you have stated and the fact that the OLF has an Office and Radio station in the United States is enough to reject your alleged claim on their involments in killings in Kenya/Ethiopia.
It's time African countries learn to obey laws and charters they're signatory to. The Right of Indigenous people to Self determination is a fundamental Human right.

EmeeNaka:
Most of the allegations you levelled against OLF is just like what any govt would do to discredit any organization seeking self determination.
The OLF has denied all these accusations you have stated and the fact that the OLF has an Office and Radio station in the United States is enough to reject your alleged claim on their involments in killings in Kenya/Ethiopia.
It's time African countries learn to obey laws and charters they're signatory to. The Right of Indigenous people to Self determination is a fundamental Human right.

The current Japan gov't denies the China genocide, but does this mean Japan didn't committed that act? No, it doesn't!
The current Turkey gov't denies the Armenia genocide, but does this mean Ottomans didn't committed that act? No, it doesn't!

For them to say they didn't committed the atrocities doesn't mean they didn't. There are endless evidences that they did.

And having a an office and radio station in USA doesn't mean they are innocent in this crime. This kind of reasoning doesn't work.

Oromos have the right for self determination, but they can't take the looted Amhara and other Ethiopians territories with them. And OLF even have a plan to take most of the current Amhara territory with them.

shervydman:
what??...........what sort of crazy animals did that sh!t in 1887?

It's sad and unacceptable, but what Arsi Oromos faced back then is the same as what Arsi Oromos did to others in the 16th century AD and in 1983/84 EC (1991/92 GC).

Hati13:

Is it to see the statue?

Is this statue a like hommage to the area tribes who walk bare breasted and they also wear a lip plate?

Bifwoli:


Is this statue a like hommage to the area tribes who walk bare breasted and they also wear a lip plate?

No, this area is inhabit mostly by Arsi Oromos (Cushite).

Those ppl who wear lip plate are one of the few Omotic language speakers and who mostly inhabit the Omo valley in SW Ethiopia.

Hati13:

No, this area is inhabit mostly by Arsi Oromos (Cushite).

Those ppl who wear lip plate are one of the few Omotic language speakers and who mostly inhabit the Omo valley in SW Ethiopia.

Ok thanks i didn't know that.Those people are vastly different from other Ethiopians culturally isn't it?

Are these Omotic speakers a branch of Nilotic peoples ?

Bifwoli:


Ok thanks i didn't know that.Those people are vastly different from other Ethiopians culturally isn't it?

Are these Omotic speakers a branch of Nilotic peoples ?

Yes, they are different. Some of the Omotic speakers like them didn't socialize that much voluntary with other Ethiopians through History. Now, this is changing in some extent, but it isn't that much. There cultures didn't changed that much and they are now living just like they did for some thousands of years.

There are some Omotic speakers that mostly socialize with other Ethiopians. For example, Welayeta ppl.

Omotic speakers aren't branch of Nilotic ppl. The are rather branch of Afro-Asiatic super family speaking ppl.