AlwaysUltraPad:
A.B.U at number 7 and below covenant? I can't take this.

Pedagogue:
It's a shame that many Nigerians accept whatever is thrown at them without doing a personal check!

Quote me, Webometrics is not recognised outside Nigeria, and by extension, Africa. The chief reason for this is that the ranking system does not fit into the most advanced thinking on University ranking methodology. Specifically, the ranking is mainly based on University 'presence' on the internet-hence the name-'WEBometrics'. In fact, there's a caveat on Webometrics' website that: "It does not measure, compare, or quantify design layout or popularity but rather uses presence, access, and visibility as the key indicators of quality and performance in the higher education sector."

Little wonder therefore that the 2017 Webometric ranking of World Universities goes thus:

1. Harvard University
2. Stanford University
3. MIT
4. University of California Berkeley
5. University of Michigan
6. University of Washington

My point: Yale University, Oxford, Cambridge, Princeton and Columbia are ranked 13, 7, 10, 23 and 27 respectively! The only ranking methodology that can lead to such conclusion is WEBOMETRICS!

Accordingly, the only place UNN & Covenant can be rated above OAU, Ile-Ife; and FUTMINNA rated above UNILAG & ILORIN is Webometrics!

The QS World ranking of Universities, Academic ranking of World Universities and the Times are the rankings that are respected all over the world. Unfortunately, apart from UI that is recognised by the Times, no other Nigerian University is recognised by these reputable organisations.

So, stop falling over yourselves-Webometrics has little or no practical utility!

motivationspika:
The extra-ordinary growth of Covenant University is a miracle.

Pedagogue:
It's a shame that many Nigerians accept whatever is thrown at them without doing a personal check!

Quote me, Webometrics is not recognised outside Nigeria, and by extension, Africa. The chief reason for this is that the ranking system does not fit into the most advanced thinking on University ranking methodology. Specifically, the ranking is mainly based on University 'presence' on the internet-hence the name-'WEBometrics'. In fact, there's a caveat on Webometrics' website that: "It does not measure, compare, or quantify design layout or popularity but rather uses presence, access, and visibility as the key indicators of quality and performance in the higher education sector."

Little wonder therefore that the 2017 Webometric ranking of World Universities goes thus:

1. Harvard University
2. Stanford University
3. MIT
4. University of California Berkeley
5. University of Michigan
6. University of Washington

My point: Yale University, Oxford, Cambridge, Princeton and Columbia are ranked 13, 7, 10, 23 and 27 respectively! The only ranking methodology that can lead to such conclusion is WEBOMETRICS!

Accordingly, the only place UNN & Covenant can be rated above OAU, Ile-Ife; and FUTMINNA rated above UNILAG & ILORIN is Webometrics!

The QS World ranking of Universities, Academic ranking of World Universities and the Times are the rankings that are respected all over the world. Unfortunately, apart from UI that is recognised by the Times, no other Nigerian University is recognised by these reputable organisations.

So, stop falling over yourselves-Webometrics has little or no practical utility!

Desyner:
UI has over 50 years of research work to digitize and upload unlike some private schools that started some 15 years ago.

Statsocial:

Yes! I saw this ranking yesterday and I was disappointed CU had regressed on global rankings. But then it's not an issue. Webometrics leaves small universities at a huge disadvantage. That CU even makes top 10 is even amazing. This is what happens when u directly compare research output without due consideration for size, hence you see a university like Caltech which has been ranked No 1 for 6 yrs in a row under times higher education being ranked at 40 under this current webometric ranking. The system of webometrics would reward a UI with 5000 lecturers who produced 2000 papers(40% research active) more than a CU which has 2000 lecturers but produced 1000 papers(50% research active). This kind of anomalies have been corrected on Times Higher. You also made an important point on the years in consideration. I expected 2011-2015 to be used. The rankings also give huge advantages to universities that offer medicine law agriculture etc because there are more citations in those disciplines. To counter this Times higher deliberately normalized the indicators for such heavily cited disciplines so that universities which focus on the liberal arts with less citations can be compared fairly. All in all we would be waiting for UI on times higher this year.

Pedagogue:
It's a shame that many Nigerians accept whatever is thrown at them without doing a personal check!

Quote me, Webometrics is not recognised outside Nigeria, and by extension, Africa. The chief reason for this is that the ranking system does not fit into the most advanced thinking on University ranking methodology. Specifically, the ranking is mainly based on University 'presence' on the internet-hence the name-'WEBometrics'. In fact, there's a caveat on Webometrics' website that: "It does not measure, compare, or quantify design layout or popularity but rather uses presence, access, and visibility as the key indicators of quality and performance in the higher education sector."

Little wonder therefore that the 2017 Webometric ranking of World Universities goes thus:

1. Harvard University
2. Stanford University
3. MIT
4. University of California Berkeley
5. University of Michigan
6. University of Washington

My point: Yale University, Oxford, Cambridge, Princeton and Columbia are ranked 13, 7, 10, 23 and 27 respectively! The only ranking methodology that can lead to such conclusion is WEBOMETRICS!

Accordingly, the only place UNN & Covenant can be rated above OAU, Ile-Ife; and FUTMINNA rated above UNILAG & ILORIN is Webometrics!

The QS World ranking of Universities, Academic ranking of World Universities and the Times are the rankings that are respected all over the world. Unfortunately, apart from UI that is recognised by the Times, no other Nigerian University is recognised by these reputable organisations.

So, stop falling over yourselves-Webometrics has little or no practical utility!

TheVictorious:


Yea I've long noticed their statistical bias towards smaller institutions, especially from some of your posts (thanks). Also I expected that this year, they will shift the range of years under consideration to 2011 - 2015 but they didn't. In any case, CU stands out to still have papers of those periods rank favourably among Nigerian varsities. What if recent years like 2012 to 16 where CU recorded so much research breskthrough and topped research indicators by big margins are considered? Lol, even lack of standardization wouldn't give large Nigerian varsities a chance!

speezyWears:

Why are your eyes still defective?
I thought you stopped drinking garri ni...
BTW its still better by far coming 9th amongst over 60 universities in Nigeria.
With your Acne infested ugly face.
Didinrin

ofai:
This is the latest webometric ranking just uploaded as at July 2017.

1. University of Ibadan
2. Covenant University Ota
3. University of Nigeria Nsukka
4. Obafemi Awolowo University
5. Federal University of Technology Minna
6. University of Lagos
7. Ahmadu Bello University Zaria
8. Federal University of Agriculture Abeokuta
9. University of Ilorin
10. Federal University of Technology Akure

See full details here:
http://www.webometrics.info/en/Africa/Nigeria?page=0

Pedagogue:
It's a shame that many Nigerians accept whatever is thrown at them without doing a personal check!

Quote me, Webometrics is not recognised outside Nigeria, and by extension, Africa. The chief reason for this is that the ranking system does not fit into the most advanced thinking on University ranking methodology. Specifically, the ranking is mainly based on University 'presence' on the internet-hence the name-'WEBometrics'. In fact, there's a caveat on Webometrics' website that: "It does not measure, compare, or quantify design layout or popularity but rather uses presence, access, and visibility as the key indicators of quality and performance in the higher education sector."

Little wonder therefore that the 2017 Webometric ranking of World Universities goes thus:

1. Harvard University
2. Stanford University
3. MIT
4. University of California Berkeley
5. University of Michigan
6. University of Washington

My point: Yale University, Oxford, Cambridge, Princeton and Columbia are ranked 13, 7, 10, 23 and 27 respectively! The only ranking methodology that can lead to such conclusion is WEBOMETRICS!

Accordingly, the only place UNN & Covenant can be rated above OAU, Ile-Ife; and FUTMINNA rated above UNILAG & ILORIN is Webometrics!

The QS World ranking of Universities, Academic ranking of World Universities and the Times are the rankings that are respected all over the world. Unfortunately, apart from UI that is recognised by the Times, no other Nigerian University is recognised by these reputable organisations.

So, stop falling over yourselves-Webometrics has little or no practical utility!

kunlealao:





Guy! U dey vex oooo...
Anyways,#repbetterbyfarversity
#Alumni

speezyWears:

Why are your eyes still defective?
I thought you stopped drinking garri ni...
BTW its still better by far coming 9th amongst over 60 universities in Nigeria.
With your Acne infested ugly face.
Didinrin

Pedagogue:
@DrayZee,

"...Yes you're right that webometrics is not ideal for ranking...Only UI is actually included in their ranks of top 981 universities.
Covenant and UNN are under consideration.I'll check the others. https://www.timeshighereducation.com/student/where-to-study/study-in-nigeria"


@ Statsocial

I don't know the point you are trying to make. Are you saying Harvard shouldn't be first. Anyway Times higher recognizes 3 universities UI, CU, UNN and has never considered ranking OAU and FUTMINNA

@TheVictorious


Ignorance everywhere. Is there any ranking in the world that does not use the basic webometrics indices

Moreso, the fact that the name of this ranking is "webometrics", does it mean that "web indicators" is the only thing considered. Why not be objective simply because of your school fell below wxpectation. Couldn't you have read the methodology to see that research output, size and impact for a specified period of time carried the major weigth (50%).

If you talk about Times Higher Education or any other reputable ranking (as you claim to know), is you highly celebrated OAU in any of them

Do you know that webometrics indicators (among other things) defines the minimum criteria for being included in the THE database, to be worth considering for assessment in their rankings and your OAU does not meet the standard. Do you also know that the Covenant University you are trying to drag to the mould is listed in THE database.

Right now, as it stands, it is only three Nigerian universities that are recognized by THE, and it does not even come as a shocker to me that they are the first three in this rating above!

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/student/where-to-study/study-in-nigeria

@Obi1kenobi


Typical chest-beating, deluded arrogance of OAU students and alumni. They're easily the loudest, brashest, most conceited people I know. Even UI people don't make half as much noise. And why would you assume OAU is better than Covenant or UNN and can't be ranked below them? OAU don turn Oxford, abi?

Thanks for all your comments. Below is my response.

1. It is charitable that @DrayZee admits that 'Webometrics is not ideal for ranking'. Your only query is 'that UNN and Covenant are under consideration for ranking by The Times.' That information, with respect, is intellectually fraudulent. The Times does not put out any information regarding the Universities that are being considered for Ranking. A quick check of the link you provided makes it clear that "Nigeria has 1 University" [/b]in the World Ranking of Universities-and that is UI! UNN & NSUKKA have NEVER been ranked by The Times.

2. @Statsocial, your comment is, with respect, very tacky. Where in that comment did I imply that Harvard shouldn't be first? All I said-which still stands is that University of Michigan and Washington University are rated way ahead of Yale, Oxford, Cambridge, Princeton and Columbia Universities. In fact, the UK Webometrics Ranking is more absurd. University of Sheffield, Exeter, Leeds and Southampton (to mention a few) are ranked above London School of Economics and Durham University! Where in the world can this happen=WEBometrics![/b]

3.@TheVictorious, your comments are always about 'your university' 'my university'. That's a defeatist way of addressing issues. To address your comment, don't you think you should place less emphasis on a Webometrics Ranking that ranks Michigan University and Washington University above Yale, Oxford, Princeton; and in the UK University of Sheffield, Exeter, Southampton et al above LSE and Durham? In relation to your comment, see my reply to @DrayZee above. Let me add: It is academically dishonest for you to suggest that Covenant & UNN are ranked by The Times. All that is known is 'The Times database for the World Rankings'. Presently, UI is the only University that is ranked and effectively recognised. Anything to the contrary is wholly mischievous.

4.@Obi1kenobi, Read the comments above, particularly No. 2. This thread is about The Webometrics Ranking. My essential point is that there's no way Webometrics Ranking methodology will not lead to absurd conclusions. All they do is that they measure WEB (internet) PRESENCE of Universities. That's why Yale and so many first-class Universities do not do well in their rankings. The same applies to the Nigerian situation. Do you honestly think that FUTMINNA is 'better' than UNILAG & ILORIN? And of course, there's NO credible academic ranking of Universities that will place UNN and Covenant ahead of OAU. Take it or leave it.

walbadamhildi:
PLS CAN SOMEONE LOCATE MY UNIVERSITY FOR ME ATBU BAUCHI FEDERAL UNIVERSITY OF TECHNOLOGY BAUCHI WHAT POSITION AM I?

ofai:
This is the latest webometric ranking just uploaded as at July 2017.

1. University of Ibadan
2. Covenant University Ota
3. University of Nigeria Nsukka
4. Obafemi Awolowo University
5. Federal University of Technology Minna
6. University of Lagos
7. Ahmadu Bello University Zaria
8. Federal University of Agriculture Abeokuta
9. University of Ilorin
10. Federal University of Technology Akure

See full details here:
http://www.webometrics.info/en/Africa/Nigeria?page=0

Pedagogue:
@DrayZee,

"...Yes you're right that webometrics is not ideal for ranking...Only UI is actually included in their ranks of top 981 universities.
Covenant and UNN are under consideration.I'll check the others. https://www.timeshighereducation.com/student/where-to-study/study-in-nigeria"


@ Statsocial

I don't know the point you are trying to make. Are you saying Harvard shouldn't be first. Anyway Times higher recognizes 3 universities UI, CU, UNN and has never considered ranking OAU and FUTMINNA

@TheVictorious


Ignorance everywhere. Is there any ranking in the world that does not use the basic webometrics indices

Moreso, the fact that the name of this ranking is "webometrics", does it mean that "web indicators" is the only thing considered. Why not be objective simply because of your school fell below wxpectation. Couldn't you have read the methodology to see that research output, size and impact for a specified period of time carried the major weigth (50%).

If you talk about Times Higher Education or any other reputable ranking (as you claim to know), is you highly celebrated OAU in any of them

Do you know that webometrics indicators (among other things) defines the minimum criteria for being included in the THE database, to be worth considering for assessment in their rankings and your OAU does not meet the standard. Do you also know that the Covenant University you are trying to drag to the mould is listed in THE database.

Right now, as it stands, it is only three Nigerian universities that are recognized by THE, and it does not even come as a shocker to me that they are the first three in this rating above!

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/student/where-to-study/study-in-nigeria

@Obi1kenobi


Typical chest-beating, deluded arrogance of OAU students and alumni. They're easily the loudest, brashest, most conceited people I know. Even UI people don't make half as much noise. And why would you assume OAU is better than Covenant or UNN and can't be ranked below them? OAU don turn Oxford, abi?

Thanks for all your comments. Below is my response.

1. It is charitable that @DrayZee admits that 'Webometrics is not ideal for ranking'. Your only query is 'that UNN and Covenant are under consideration for ranking by The Times.' That information, with respect, is intellectually fraudulent. The Times does not put out any information regarding the Universities that are being considered for Ranking. A quick check of the link you provided makes it clear that "Nigeria has 1 University" [/b]in the World Ranking of Universities-and that is UI! UNN & NSUKKA have NEVER been ranked by The Times.

2. @Statsocial, your comment is, with respect, very tacky. Where in that comment did I imply that Harvard shouldn't be first? All I said-which still stands is that University of Michigan and Washington University are rated way ahead of Yale, Oxford, Cambridge, Princeton and Columbia Universities. In fact, the UK Webometrics Ranking is more absurd. University of Sheffield, Exeter, Leeds and Southampton (to mention a few) are ranked above London School of Economics and Durham University! Where in the world can this happen=WEBometrics![/b]

3.@TheVictorious, your comments are always about 'your university' 'my university'. That's a defeatist way of addressing issues. To address your comment, don't you think you should place less emphasis on a Webometrics Ranking that ranks Michigan University and Washington University above Yale, Oxford, Princeton; and in the UK University of Sheffield, Exeter, Southampton et al above LSE and Durham? In relation to your comment, see my reply to @DrayZee above. Let me add: It is academically dishonest for you to suggest that Covenant & UNN are ranked by The Times. All that is known is 'The Times database for the World Rankings'. Presently, UI is the only University that is ranked and effectively recognised. Anything to the contrary is wholly mischievous.

4.@Obi1kenobi, Read the comments above, particularly No. 2. This thread is about The Webometrics Ranking. My essential point is that there's no way Webometrics Ranking methodology will not lead to absurd conclusions. All they do is that they measure WEB (internet) PRESENCE of Universities. That's why Yale and so many first-class Universities do not do well in their rankings. The same applies to the Nigerian situation. Do you honestly think that FUTMINNA is 'better' than UNILAG & ILORIN? And of course, there's NO credible academic ranking of Universities that will place UNN and Covenant ahead of OAU. Take it or leave it.

Pedagogue:
@DrayZee,

"...Yes you're right that webometrics is not ideal for ranking...Only UI is actually included in their ranks of top 981 universities.
Covenant and UNN are under consideration.I'll check the others. https://www.timeshighereducation.com/student/where-to-study/study-in-nigeria"


@ Statsocial

I don't know the point you are trying to make. Are you saying Harvard shouldn't be first. Anyway Times higher recognizes 3 universities UI, CU, UNN and has never considered ranking OAU and FUTMINNA

@TheVictorious


Ignorance everywhere. Is there any ranking in the world that does not use the basic webometrics indices

Moreso, the fact that the name of this ranking is "webometrics", does it mean that "web indicators" is the only thing considered. Why not be objective simply because of your school fell below wxpectation. Couldn't you have read the methodology to see that research output, size and impact for a specified period of time carried the major weigth (50%).

If you talk about Times Higher Education or any other reputable ranking (as you claim to know), is you highly celebrated OAU in any of them

Do you know that webometrics indicators (among other things) defines the minimum criteria for being included in the THE database, to be worth considering for assessment in their rankings and your OAU does not meet the standard. Do you also know that the Covenant University you are trying to drag to the mould is listed in THE database.

Right now, as it stands, it is only three Nigerian universities that are recognized by THE, and it does not even come as a shocker to me that they are the first three in this rating above!

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/student/where-to-study/study-in-nigeria

@Obi1kenobi


Typical chest-beating, deluded arrogance of OAU students and alumni. They're easily the loudest, brashest, most conceited people I know. Even UI people don't make half as much noise. And why would you assume OAU is better than Covenant or UNN and can't be ranked below them? OAU don turn Oxford, abi?

Thanks for all your comments. Below is my response.

1. It is charitable that @DrayZee admits that 'Webometrics is not ideal for ranking'. Your only query is 'that UNN and Covenant are under consideration for ranking by The Times.' That information, with respect, is intellectually fraudulent. The Times does not put out any information regarding the Universities that are being considered for Ranking. A quick check of the link you provided makes it clear that "Nigeria has 1 University" [/b]in the World Ranking of Universities-and that is UI! UNN & NSUKKA have NEVER been ranked by The Times.

2. @Statsocial, your comment is, with respect, very tacky. Where in that comment did I imply that Harvard shouldn't be first? All I said-which still stands is that University of Michigan and Washington University are rated way ahead of Yale, Oxford, Cambridge, Princeton and Columbia Universities. In fact, the UK Webometrics Ranking is more absurd. University of Sheffield, Exeter, Leeds and Southampton (to mention a few) are ranked above London School of Economics and Durham University! Where in the world can this happen=WEBometrics![/b]

3.@TheVictorious, your comments are always about 'your university' 'my university'. That's a defeatist way of addressing issues. To address your comment, don't you think you should place less emphasis on a Webometrics Ranking that ranks Michigan University and Washington University above Yale, Oxford, Princeton; and in the UK University of Sheffield, Exeter, Southampton et al above LSE and Durham? In relation to your comment, see my reply to @DrayZee above. Let me add: It is academically dishonest for you to suggest that Covenant & UNN are ranked by The Times. All that is known is 'The Times database for the World Rankings'. Presently, UI is the only University that is ranked and effectively recognised. Anything to the contrary is wholly mischievous.

4.@Obi1kenobi, Read the comments above, particularly No. 2. This thread is about The Webometrics Ranking. My essential point is that there's no way Webometrics Ranking methodology will not lead to absurd conclusions. All they do is that they measure WEB (internet) PRESENCE of Universities. That's why Yale and so many first-class Universities do not do well in their rankings. The same applies to the Nigerian situation. Do you honestly think that FUTMINNA is 'better' than UNILAG & ILORIN? And of course, there's NO credible academic ranking of Universities that will place UNN and Covenant ahead of OAU. Take it or leave it.

IgboticGirl:
STUPID LIST