Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,150,610 members, 7,809,234 topics. Date: Friday, 26 April 2024 at 06:15 AM

Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment - Celebrities (3) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Entertainment / Celebrities / Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment (26224 Views)

Chioma Shops With Ubi Franklin (Pictures) / Chioma Parties With Ubi Franklin, Tiwa Savage, Iyanya / Daddy Freeze Disagrees With The Saying, "What God Cannot Do Does Not Exist" (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by aribisala0(m): 3:40pm On Oct 27, 2017
femi4:
Why so much focus on tithe, he should beam his light more on other atrocities going on in the Christendom.

After all, a tithe cheerful given is not a crime
The receiver is criminal though.
The giver is like a child agreeing to have sex with an adult.

1 Like

Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by unitysheart(m): 3:40pm On Oct 27, 2017
somegirl1:
I don't agree that only Israelites are to pay tithe. However, I don't believe Christians would be penalised for not paying tithe.
I refuse to enrich "pastors" and no longer/ would not pay tithe to any churches led by Nigerian or American pastors.
I also would not pay tithe to any churches where the founder / senior pastor would boycott missionary work in underdeveloped areas in favour of establishing "ministries" in church-infested urban areas.
I am happy to pay tithe to a ministry where charity work, not just for publicity, and evangelism are the focus.

Tithing was birthed as a result of the law covenant. Christians are not under the law covenant. They are under the new covenant heralded by Jesus Christ.

While it is true that contributions are expected from Christians, it shouldn't be in form of tithes. Apostle Paul asked everyone to do as he has resolved in his heart. Who says I cannot give 1/3, half or all that I made to my church if my heart so resolved to do that?

2 Likes

Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by samsam2019: 3:40pm On Oct 27, 2017
In the eternal words of Mark Twain : it is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled.




Sometimes when I see how stupid Nigerians have been over religion I she's a tear deep within my soul.



An old woman once told me; when people show you who they Are, believe them.



What more can these fraudsters pastors do before my people's eyes are opened? It's easy to see these religion and it's doctrines was designed at robbing people and enslaving my mind .




Ask yourself who Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates paid tithes to

3 Likes

Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by DopeBoss(m): 3:42pm On Oct 27, 2017
watchwoman:

If you want to draw this guys attention on social media and be famous for five minutes, just mention tithe and tag him
Lol.. Very true nd disappointing he just dosen't get tired.. I'm starting to get why his ex wife called him a myopic manundecided
Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by somehow: 3:42pm On Oct 27, 2017
He's a religious (christian) critic/analyst just as we have political, fashion, social or whatever critic/anaylst so its part of his job to criticise/argue what is or not.
LastSurvivor11:
Daddy Fridge abi daddy freezer, why are you always arguing with people

1 Like

Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by AyobamiSky: 3:45pm On Oct 27, 2017
I have said it before and will, again; You cant win freeze in an argument.
Dammit, people should realise this by now. This guy has no shame, has no problem with hitting bellow the belt, attacking personalities n such. He is a what u call a 'bar-room brawler'.
Get it straight, if u still hold on to your dignity, feel shame, cant sink low, cant fight relentlessy, cant be willing to abandon respect, culture, morals n such jst to win an argument n prove a point, u cnt fight freeze.
Trust me, i av met pple like this. the only way u can fight a pig is by being willing to sink into a dirtier mud than it does.
Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by Kaslyni: 3:48pm On Oct 27, 2017
aribisala0:
Because his message is simple .The churches that insist on them are TITHE SCAMMERS duping gullible people in the name of God.If there was no tithe Oyakhilome would be a banker,Adeboye would be a politician
NO its rather because the founder cum father of rebelion has a strong hold on him and people like yourself via distortion. An obedient child will not refuse a 10 percent of his income to his father REGARDLESS who eats IT

1 Like

Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by somegirl1: 3:50pm On Oct 27, 2017
unitysheart:


Tithing was birthed as a result of the law covenant. Christians are not under the law covenant. They are under the new covenant heralded by Jesus Christ.

While it is true that contributions are expected from Christians, it shouldn't be in form of tithes. Apostle Paul asked everyone to do as he has resolved in his heart. Who says I cannot give 1/3, half or all that I made to my church if my heart so resolved to do that?

I agree wholeheartedly. Plus Levis were to be taken care of because they had no allotment /inheritance in Israel . I don't see how it applies most "pastors", many of whom have called and chosen themselves.
As mentioned in my earlier quote, I don't believe God would penalise Christians at judgment for non-payment of tithe; however, I believe that there are spiritual principles around giving which which produce results whether or not the giver is a Christian.

2 Likes

Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by SensaGreene: 3:54pm On Oct 27, 2017
Chartey:

I hope you are not a Christian. If you are, then you'll know it's a sin to call someone "fool" but it's not a sin not to pay tithe.
Christians nowadays know very little of the Bible. Most are not even qualified to be called Christian but the churches don't mind, there's "grace", just "pay your tithe".
These days tithers are called to the altar every Sunday but altar calls for salvation are so rare now.
The tithes are accepted not caring about the salvation status of the person paying the tithe.
Christianity is dead.

Can I love your comment one million times?

3 Likes

Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by unitysheart(m): 3:55pm On Oct 27, 2017
somegirl1:


I agree wholeheartedly. Plus Levis were to be taken care of because they had no allotment /inheritance in Israel . I don't see how it applies most "pastors", many of whom have called and chosen themselves.
As mentioned in my earlier quote, I don't believe God would penalise Christians at judgment for non-payment of tithe; however, I believe that giving is a spiritual principle which yields results whether or not the giver is a Christian.

You are very correct.
Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by LordBaelish: 3:57pm On Oct 27, 2017
unitysheart:
So much misinformation by the clergy class. There was more than one tithes that the "law covenant" brought upon the Israelites. They were to bring a tenth of different things and these tenths are for different purposes. There's a particular tenth that can be paid in cash but to pay it in cash you must add additional fifth to it.

Additionally, there's a particular tenth of animal offspring that's expected to be brought in. This and many other tithes are for the direct benefits of the levies and the priests. A tenth of whatever is given to the Levites as tithe is also given to the priests. This is because these two classes of people do not work.

However, there's another tenth that is a form of contribution to be made by each person to the temple. This is gathered througout the year and is used for the benefits of all worshippers who come to the temple for the annual festival. All the worshippers will wine and dine with whatever is gathered as this particular tenth.

Question is, are Christians under the law covenant?

Did the apostles who were directly under the tutelage of Jesus and who took over after him have a job of their own or not? Is there anywhere in the Bible that it was recorded that the early Christians were compelled to pay their tithes?

Apostle Peter had a family and he took care of them. Luke was a physician. Paul was a tent maker, despite that he was a traveling overseer. Moving from one congregation to the other. While it was expected that the brothers would take care of some of his expenses, however, please note what Apostle Paul said below to the Thesasalonians:

1 Thessalonians 2:9
New International Version
Surely you remember, brothers and sisters, our toil and hardship; we worked night and day in order not to be a burden to anyone while we preached the gospel of God to you.

New Living Translation
Don't you remember, dear brothers and sisters, how hard we worked among you? Night and day we toiled to earn a living so that we would not be a burden to any of you as we preached God's Good News to you.

He also said to the Corinthians:




◄ 2 Corinthians 11:9 ►
New International Version
And when I was with you and needed something, I was not a burden to anyone, for the brothers who came from Macedonia supplied what I needed. I have kept myself from being a burden to you in any way, and will continue to do so.

New Living Translation
And when I was with you and didn't have enough to live on, I did not become a financial burden to anyone. For the brothers who came from Macedonia brought me all that I needed. I have never been a burden to you, and I never will be.

Lastly, please note the kind of giving that God appreciates:

2 Corinthians 9:7

Let each one do just as he has resolved in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

From the above what can we deduce?

1. Christians are not under the law covenant. If they are they'll be expected to also offer up animal sacrifices.

2. Church leaders are not supposed to feed off their congregation. They are not levites and as such they can work to earn their living. However, if they have tí be financially supported so that they can face their clergy work, they shouldn't be seen living a flamboyant lifestyle while their congregants are in penury. How many church goers can enroll their children in school owned by their church today?

3. God loves a cheerful giver. There will be times when church goers should rally around fellow members and the church as a whole. It could be when a member has a very serious issue to care for and it may be when there is an important project to be embarked upon by the church. As such times, members are expected to increase their contributions so that they can truly be a brother born for when there's distress or calamity. Otherwise, let each person do just as his heart has resolved.

I drop my pen here.

I have to Quote you sir... you know why?

You reasoned. Unlike most people in this generation.

2 Likes

Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by Webman007: 3:59pm On Oct 27, 2017
obataokenwa:
I will recommend everyone read this book by Kenneth Hagin and set yourself free from all the calamity of Church giving and tithing.
After I read this book, I've made my decision about giving as far as it doesn't stop me from making heaven.

downloaded the PDF immediately... looking good thus far

1 Like

Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by driand(m): 4:00pm On Oct 27, 2017
SmartyPants:
Of course there is something like a mature believer... what is this one saying?
pastor taught u dat?
Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by Chartey(m): 4:04pm On Oct 27, 2017
SensaGreene:


Can I love your comment one million times?
smiley
Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by spencekat(m): 4:06pm On Oct 27, 2017
I will always pay my tithe till I depart this world.
Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by obataokenwa(m): 4:09pm On Oct 27, 2017
Webman007:


downloaded the PDF immediately... looking good thus far
My brother, you will never be deceived again on what's the right way to give and prosper. I think is the last book he wrote before he died and many prosperity American preachers refused to honour his invitation when he approached them abt the right way God revealed to him concerning giving...

All the gimmicks used by preachers to exploit members are listed in that book also.

Hard work is the key to prosperity

2 Likes 1 Share

Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by BluntBoy(m): 4:11pm On Oct 27, 2017
PrimadonnaO:
Just do what works for you.


Tithing works for me. So, I go ahead and pay my tithe regardless of anything. My money, my business, my faith.

How do you mean by tithing works for you? Do you mean you get blessed when you tithe?

2 Likes

Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by SmartyPants(m): 4:11pm On Oct 27, 2017
driand:
pastor taught u dat?

No. I read it in the Bible.

Any further questions?
Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by calyto: 4:12pm On Oct 27, 2017
22 “You shall tithe all the yield of your seed, which comes forth from the field year by year. 23 And before the Lord your God, in the place which he will choose, to make his name dwell there, you shall eat the tithe of your grain, of your wine, and of your oil, and the firstlings of your herd and flock; that you may learn to fear the Lord your God always. 24 And if the way is too long for you, so that you are not able to bring the tithe, when the Lord your God blesses you, because the place is too far from you, which the Lord your God chooses, to set his name there, 25 then you shall turn it into money, and bind up the money in your hand, and go to the place which the Lord your God chooses, 26 and spend the money for whatever you desire, oxen, or sheep, or wine or strong drink, whatever your appetite craves; and you shall eat there before the Lord your God and rejoice, you and your household. 27 [color=#990000]And you shall not forsake the Levite who is within your towns, for he has no portion or inheritance with you.
28 “At the end of every three years you shall bring forth all the tithe of your produce in the same year, and lay it up within your towns; 29 and the Levite, because he has no portion or inheritance with you, and the sojourner, the fatherless, and the widow, who are within your towns, shall come and eat and be filled; that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hands that you do.


1. It should be paid annually
2. It should not be in a form of money
3.The 10% should be shared into 3
i. Give one-third to the Levites;
ii.Share the other to the widows,sojourners and the fatherless;
iii. Use the third one to throw a party so as to be at peace with your neighbors


But above all, it is no longer valid because that was the Jewish faith and we are Christians.
Remember, CHRIST DID NOT PAY TITHE


Kaslyni:
Whats your understanding of that scripture? (deut 14:22)

3 Likes 1 Share

Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by Iamzik: 4:16pm On Oct 27, 2017
Webman007:


downloaded the PDF immediately... looking good thus far

What's the title and download link please?
Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by pweetiedee(m): 4:19pm On Oct 27, 2017
Freeze is right. its his "arguing" that's annoying. must he reply all?

2 Likes

Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by Nobody: 4:22pm On Oct 27, 2017
Chartey:

I hope you are not a Christian. If you are, then you'll know it's a sin to call someone "fool" but it's not a sin not to pay tithe.
Christians nowadays know very little of the Bible. Most are not even qualified to be called Christian but the churches don't mind, there's "grace", just "pay your tithe".
These days tithers are called to the altar every Sunday but altar calls for salvation are so rare now.
The tithes are accepted not caring about the salvation status of the person paying the tithe.
Christianity is dead.
Probably it's because of the church you attend. There are many churches in Nigeria that call altar calls on daily basis. That many doesn't,doesn't mean all do
Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by Walelavender(m): 4:24pm On Oct 27, 2017
This submission about Freeze on non-payment of tithes has been overflogged and it's obviously what the scriptures call 'every wind of doctrine'. These are end times. You should begin to ask yourself why this man is trying to force it down the throats of many Christians. You could hardly see this tea ching fly, like two decades ago.

If you have been paying tithe to a Bible-believing church (not the fake ones) and you still can't figure out the blessings (tangible and intangible) from above, then something must be wrong somewhere.

Now if you don't believe in this divine principle, nothing stops you from 'being blessed 'as you decide to give it to the less privileged ones, since it's your prerogative. However note that tithes only go to the Storehouse-Malachi 3:10.
They are both seeds!

You can always decide what you would want to do with your money, but God decides how he blesses you

As for me,nothing could ever stop me from paying my tithe to the Storehouse and give to the needy.
Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by driand(m): 4:25pm On Oct 27, 2017
SmartyPants:


No. I read it in the Bible.

Any further questions?
where in the Bible please?

1 Like

Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by unitysheart(m): 4:30pm On Oct 27, 2017
LordBaelish:


I have to Quote you sir... you know why?

You reasoned. Unlike most people in this generation.

My pleasure, bro.
Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by mechanics(m): 4:35pm On Oct 27, 2017
He's mixing up the whole issue.
Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by Broderick555: 4:36pm On Oct 27, 2017
10% every year.Abeg nah how many %every month?because the thing dey confuse me
Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by Mofe72: 4:55pm On Oct 27, 2017
GibsonB:
You an Freeze are good friends until you tell him, that you pay tithe, both of you becomes enemies, lol.. So Ubi Franklin had made a post that only ''Matured believers'' pay tithes, And following the widespread news the divorcee is stingy, a fan asked him if its true that his stingy, and Freeze took up the case from there, saying there's nothing like ''Matured believer'' and that the father of one is trying to deceive young minds, see all the Drama that went down below!

'I was copied in this post done by @king_chidozie so I will address it.

Firstly, my dear @ngoziobiosa how are you today? I have read your comments several times so I know you are a smart lady. You raised a valid question; “is it true @ubifranklintriplemg is stingy?” Well from my own experience the answer is NO!

I remember Ubi calling me from the front of my office. He just came from a trip abroad and got me an IPad without me asking. He said “Bro I just thought of you and got you this.” I still use that iPad today, several years later, so I don’t consider Ubi stingy in any way.

I also agree with Ubi saying tithing is not to be imposed on anyone, it’s the ‘matured believers’ part that sets my alarms off. There is no such thing as a mature believer and you guys have to be careful not to take what pentecostal pastors, especially that gentleman that drives a G63 and has a huge church not far from OANDO in lekki, teaches you about tithing, hook line and sinker! (He doesn’t mention my name when he preaches about me, so let me return the favor in this particular ‘experience’)

Although I agree with many of his teachings on grace, I totally disagree with his take on tithing and his attempt to justify it through Melshizedek.

You see dear Christians, tithing in itself, with regards to the teachings of Christ, is a false doctrine, so it’s not an honor or a trust system, ITS MANIPULATION! ~FRZ

When God gave the commandment of tithe, He clearly stated who would pay the tithe; who would receive the tithe; and the purpose for receiving the tithe. He said the tithe would be paid by Israelites (except those from the tribe of Levi). He said that only the Levites were permitted to receive tithe and also said it was for their service in the tabernacle of the congregation. God actually gave them the tithe as an inheritance (Numbers18: 21-24). For you to be eligible to pay tithe, you have to come from any of the tribes of Israel, apart from the tribe of Levi.


News From Ebiwali- http://www.ebiwalismoment.com/2017/10/its-manipulation-freeze-reminds-ubi.html





This guy claims to know the bible so well.

1 Peter 2:2 and 1 Corinthians 3:2 talks about spiritual growth and maturity.

1 Peter 2:9- But you are a chosen race, a royal PRIESTHOOD, a holy nation...

But what do I know, I'm just a sheep and Jesus is my shepherd undecided
Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by aribisala0(m): 4:57pm On Oct 27, 2017
Kaslyni:
NO its rather because the founder cum father of rebelion has a strong hold on him and people like yourself via distortion. An obedient child will not refuse a 10 percent of his income to his father REGARDLESS who eats IT
Your programme is running 100%
Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by Kaslyni: 5:12pm On Oct 27, 2017
aribisala0:
Your programme is running 100%
*Laughs* my "programme"? OK
Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by Chartey(m): 5:23pm On Oct 27, 2017
asuustrike2009:

Probably it's because of the church you attend. There are many churches in Nigeria that call altar calls on daily basis. That many doesn't,doesn't mean all do
I don't attend church.

2 Likes

Re: Daddy Freeze Disagrees With Ubi Franklin On Tithe Payment by Sall(m): 5:24pm On Oct 27, 2017
adahlee:
this daddy freeze is an agbaya. Enough of him already. I love the way Timi dakolo handled him. old fool

You derived joy in paying tithe to those Conny pastors then what are you?.

3 Likes 1 Share

(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (Reply)

Peter Okoye Flaunts His 'Mr P' Customized Chain (Photo) / Lil Kesh To Leave YBNL Before End Of Next Month / 'Lie About Abortions': Toke Makinwa Comes Under Fire For Telling Women So

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 75
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.