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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:41am On Nov 17, 2017
Greetings!

This is my preferred starting eleven for now in the 3-5-2 formation.
Moses should start for the RWB role while the likes or Ebuehi and Shehu can come in as subs. We can recall during the last world cup edition in 2014, Moses couldn't do very well against world cup teams in a forward role, despite his impressive runs against African teams in Afcon and other subsequent games against African sides, so why not avoid the same mistakes this time?

Another point is that, he can also impress in the wing back role, he is indefatigable in running, he can draw players to himself, thereby providing more space for Iheanacho and Iwobi to do some serious damages to the opponent's defenses. He can also drift in the 18 yard box to cause havoc when Nigeria is attacking just like how Idowu was found in the 18 yard box of Argentina too from the LWB role.

Another very important thing that Nigeria stands to benefit if Moses plays wing back is a very good defensive cover. Chelsea rarely concedes a goal from the right side if Moses is on the pitch and he is playing RWB, I can tentatively say that Chelsea have NOT conceded a goal from that right side with Moses playing the RWB role and even if they have, it will be on very few occasions. he always have that side looked against any team, and since he got injured now, Chelsea have been conceding many goals from there, which goes to show what Moses have been offering in that role. Now imaging him playing that role again for Nigeria and replicating that form, that will be a big plus to Nigeria.

Another point is that the flow between Mikel, Iwobi and Iheanacho combination should not be tempered with for now. If Moses is made to play a forward role now, his style of football may not suit the flow and thereby disrupting it. The combination between Mikel, Iwobi and Iheanacho have been devastating to defenses and should continue.

Why I picked Ogu ahead of Onazi for now is because of his good combination with Ndidi. We see the best of each other (Ndidi and Ogu) when they play. Ogu have showed he also has some pace and can use his positioning also to neutralize attacks, which can come in handy against those highly rate teams.

Awaziem is good with his left foot so he should play in the LCB role while Balogun should move to the center beacause of his "lack of pace."


So here is my preferred line up for now

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:50am On Nov 17, 2017
forgiveness:


National team boost a players career. If Aluko was in the National team at that early stage of his career, he would have played in a better club. Ask Ndidi, Troost and Iwobi.


Yes, I'm not doubting that but.....
He made his SE debut at 20, isn't that early enough?
The truth is that the youngman failed to reach 50% of what was once predicted. It is unfair to place all the blame on SE.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 10:53am On Nov 17, 2017
safarigirl:
i actually beg to differ.

I hate it when European and South American sides blame physicality after losing to African opposition. It connotes that the black man can only win the whites when they exploit the basest of human traits. Why can't they ever acknowledge the fact that they were outplayed? They were outclassed, they didn't get the tactics? Why always blame physicality?

I watched the second half at least three times and while they held the ball more than we did, we certainly had the better game plan and that is how we won.

They were outplayed and outclassed, no need to add physicality to it....abi is it Ebuehi that is lepa like that that was physical? With what mbok?


You have a strong point here.


I never really looked at things from that prism, you know, it's really messed up when those folks model an African as an all brute no brains being.

We were just simply too much for them to handle at a point.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 10:58am On Nov 17, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


I tried....the check bounced and I almost got arrested


Be careful next time.

You would get yourself in trouble if you don't make sure of the things you take to the bank.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by terzurum5(m): 11:15am On Nov 17, 2017
Russia 2018: Nigeria in trouble



File: Super Eagle players

By Adegbenro Adebanjo

There will be no hiding place for the Super Eagles of Nigeria when the World’s most glamorous sporting event, the world cup, opens in Russia in 2018.

The Nigerian side will actually be the team to beat as other countries who have qualified have started redoubling efforts to overawe the Nigerian side should they be drawn together on December 1 when the draw is made in Russia.


The gang up against Nigeria is not because it qualified from its group even with a match to spare. It’s also not because in its round robin encounters with Cameroun, Algeria and Zambia, super powers of the round leather game on the continent, it did not taste defeat.

Nigeria is in trouble because after qualifying for the showpiece event, the Super Eagles went on to do the unthinkable.


Yes the Nigeria Super Eagles are actually the architect of their own trouble. They played themselves into trouble when they went to Russia on November 13 and decimated one of the Super powers in the sport Argentina 4-2 with the whole world watching proceedings.

The legendary Diego Maradona described the defeat of Argentina by Nigeria in the friendly match thus, ‘I am angry because they have taken away our prestige”.


Indeed that famous victory has cast the Super Eagles in a new light and football aficionados across the world, including coaches and players who will be playing in the world, cup now see Nigeria as a formidable opponent which should not be trifle with.

So Nigeria’s opponent in Russia will not take matches against the Super Eagle with levity. They will go all out and fire from all cylinders to humble this team that humiliated Argentina in Russia.


From all indications this will be Nigeria toughest World Cup ever. Forget the fact that by African standard the country has done relatively well in the competition.

From the first appearance in 1994 the Eagles led by the Late Stephen Keshi almost created the biggest upset when they faced Italy in the second round and led by 1-0 until the very last moment when a momentary lack of concentration prevented them from caging the Roberto Baggio led squad in the second round. Italy eventually prevailed by 2-1.


Prior to that the Eagles had humiliated Greece, Bulgaria and virtually retired Andoni Zubizarreta, the Spaniard all-time great goalkeeper who fumbled with the ball and allowed Eagles to run away with 3 – 2 win over Spain.


After USA’94 the Eagles had managed to put up mainly respectable, and at times shambolic, performances in subsequent appearances at the world cup in the first round almost always qualifying for the second round. That’s where they always stopped.


And that is why the Eagles are in greater trouble with their compatriots who follow the game with dizzying passion. So this time around the Super Eagles and their handlers must know that second round qualification is not enough.


The success at Russia 2018 will be measured by at least a quarter final berth. Anything short of that will be tantamount to a successful failure. And these Eagles Class of 2018 have what it takes to shake the world.


They have as Technical Adviser a man who seems to know his onions and has weathered the politics of the Football Association and the interference from high and low quarters.


Yes, Gernot Rohr has been inspiring and has engineered the team to deliver at critical times. He cannot afford not to deliver in Russia. And luckily for him he has a group of experienced players and new intakes who want to show that they have all it takes to become world beaters.


The Captain of the team, John Mikel Obi, is a veteran of sorts and he has shown that he has the support of his mates which is critical and the character of a team leader off and on the field of play. The likes of Victor Moses, Ahmed Musa, Ogenyi Onazi, Odion Ighalo, Abdulahi Sheu, Alex Iwobi have enough experience and fire in their belly to hold their own against any opposition.


And of course emerging key players like Kelechi, Leon Balogun and William Troost Ekong and new kid on the block Brian Idowu could also contribute to an anticipated success story in Russia.


Leon Balogun and William Troost Ekong and new kid on the block Brian Idowu could also contribute to an anticipated success story in Russia.


However, as in the past extraneous forces and matters must not be allowed to infiltrate the team and preparations. Before long, those who played little or no role in the qualification race will want to reap from where they did not sow and through subterfuge and influence peddling will create division in the team.


And of course, even ethnic jingoists and religious zealots are waiting in the wings to canvas for ethnic balance and religious equity. Such inanities and aberrations must not be imported into the march to Russia. Rohr must be given the free hand to select his team.


The role of the Football Association must be limited to contingency support from the background while government officials who have enough money to go to Russia must confine themselves to designated spots.



Former Super Eagles Chief Coach, Adegboye Onigbinde, has this advice for Rohr and his boys, ”The Eagles have a technical team employed to ensure they do well at competitions and I believe they should know what to do after seeing the way the team played both halves against Argentina.


The team can go on to win the World Cup next year if the right things are done-part of which is giving them quality matches to play to prepare them for the task ahead. No two games are the same, and the same Argentina we beat 4-2 may meet us at World Cup and beat us silly.


The team look good but they need reinforcements to enable them to keep up the performances and do better.


The players should guard against being overconfident because they have defeated Argentina”.
Certainly, a timely advice to steer Nigeria off the path of trouble in Russia.

Adebanjo, former sports editor of TELL Magazine, sent this piece via obanijesu@yahoo.com



http://thenewsnigeria.com.ng/2017/11/russia-2018-nigeria-in-trouble/?app=browser_push&entry1=push&entry2=auto&uc_msg=agoo%271752356832249778176%270

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 11:19am On Nov 17, 2017
safarigirl:



I was thinking up a final World Cup list and a thought came to me, what do you guys think of Etebo's chances of making it to the world cup considering current situations?


Etebo might find it difficult to break in o. Rorh is already taking a liking to Ogu in the CMF, onazi is there. And I don't want to ever see him at the AMF ever again when Mikel, Iwobi and nacho are in the team. From the wings we have V.Moses, S.simon, Onyekuru and don't forget Rorh picked out Bazee from Germany himself
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:21am On Nov 17, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


I have said it over and over again. Even said I okayed Joebie's suggestion because it means we are searching for those willing to play for Nigeria. It helps us find out who wants to play for us.

It will take more than a smile to make someone who does not feel Nigerian to feel Nigerian. Go to Dele Alli and smile for three years. He will not feel Nigerian. I have said they have the right to play for Nigerians because they are Nigerian. However, if they do not feel Nigerian, they can go to where they want. I for one and millions of Nigerians, home and abroad will not miss them.

Touch, smile, hospitality. Why stop there? Roll out red carpet.

That's a very unfair statement to make about Dele a boy that was abandoned by his Father left with an alcoholic mother. Who then lost her children as an incapable parent and Dele found himself in the care system like an orphan.

How do you expect him to look at his Father Where we're all his Uncles and Aunty's Where were all the concerned Nigerians that should have offered to look after him.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:24am On Nov 17, 2017
junnyjake:
I've seen people coming up here and blabbing all they can about the EPL being an oveehyped Mediocre league.

Wait a minute, without England, what kind of players would you have in your National team??

Just take a look....


Carl Ikeme: if not for his illness, he's the number 1 candidate in the post for us. He plays his football in England.

Ekong: Surprised?? He was a youth player at Tottenham Hotspurs, he and Harry Kane were mates, he spent a large part of his development in London. Is he one of the starters in your team?

Aina: is a Londoner, we all know that, many of us here consider him an upgrade to the 'experienced Elderson.'

Mikel: Your captain, with whom you can't win a game without, Chelsea wasn't part of his success story were they?

Iwobi: I seriously do want you to tell me Arsenal is club based in Azerbaijan, he's been with them since he was five, how would he have developed to a player you all love to watch without the education he received at the Emirates.

V.Moses: He's one of your favorite players right, can you remind me where he plays? I seem to have forgotten.

Iheanacho: All we would have been hearing about that kid would have been, "That boy was a star during the U-17s, where is he? had he not made a move to Mancity to develop his talent.

Ndidi: How many matches has he played for the Eagles?? Has he always play the full 90 mins?? And why is that?

Musa: Although, many of us won't really support his continuous call ups to the team(myself inclusive) but he's invited by the way, he's still in England, last I checked.

Ighalo: This man didn't get a call up while in Udinese or Granada, until when he was tearing down the championship and premiership with goals, making him an all time goal scorer for his club. Who's the top 9 in the present eagles team? Uh, tell me?



Now, close your eyes and imagine us playing without those players listed and tell me in all honesty why you think the League is just nothing but a hyped mediocre league despite 87% of your best players currently play there or have developed there.

These are not just members of the team but also undisputed starters.

Can I add tell me which top 5 FIFA rated national that does not have at least 5 players from the EPL.

I rest my case, for the mediocre over hyped league.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:26am On Nov 17, 2017
Chrismario:


I'm not supporting such treatment but Aluko is not the first neither would he be last.

Your last paragraph though, I'm sorry to say he has not progressed much. The youngman has been moving sideways and I wonder why he has no been snapped by teams like Bournemouth. He might be good but not too good against our current players when placed side by side.

No exaggeration but tell me three players who are clearly better than him.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 11:29am On Nov 17, 2017
forgiveness:


Basic reasoning demands that a young English player that won the SPL player of the month twice at 18 and even scored a spetacular goal in the UEFA cup against Bayern Munich could had attracted scouts and the British Media. That could had been enough to get a better club in EPL but unfortunately he decided to change his nationality to Nigeria and we know the sentiment of the British.

Dembele is wanted by many clubs, why?

This is not hype.


Aluko should have been treated better?? Yes! Unfortunately that didn't happen. We can move on from that.


Aluko is a player that has so much to offer the team, those who know him know that as an established fact. And those who don't, don't know and no matter how much you make noise about it, it changes nada.

Save yourself the stress.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 11:36am On Nov 17, 2017
terzurum5:
Russia 2018: Nigeria in trouble



File: Super Eagle players

By Adegbenro Adebanjo

There will be no hiding place for the Super Eagles of Nigeria when the World’s most glamorous sporting event, the world cup, opens in Russia in 2018.

The Nigerian side will actually be the team to beat as other countries who have qualified have started redoubling efforts to overawe the Nigerian side should they be drawn together on December 1 when the draw is made in Russia.


The gang up against Nigeria is not because it qualified from its group even with a match to spare. It’s also not because in its round robin encounters with Cameroun, Algeria and Zambia, super powers of the round leather game on the continent, it did not taste defeat.

Nigeria is in trouble because after qualifying for the showpiece event, the Super Eagles went on to do the unthinkable.


Yes the Nigeria Super Eagles are actually the architect of their own trouble. They played themselves into trouble when they went to Russia on November 13 and decimated one of the Super powers in the sport Argentina 4-2 with the whole world watching proceedings.

The legendary Diego Maradona described the defeat of Argentina by Nigeria in the friendly match thus, ‘I am angry because they have taken away our prestige”.


Indeed that famous victory has cast the Super Eagles in a new light and football aficionados across the world, including coaches and players who will be playing in the world, cup now see Nigeria as a formidable opponent which should not be trifle with.

So Nigeria’s opponent in Russia will not take matches against the Super Eagle with levity. They will go all out and fire from all cylinders to humble this team that humiliated Argentina in Russia.


From all indications this will be Nigeria toughest World Cup ever. Forget the fact that by African standard the country has done relatively well in the competition.

From the first appearance in 1994 the Eagles led by the Late Stephen Keshi almost created the biggest upset when they faced Italy in the second round and led by 1-0 until the very last moment when a momentary lack of concentration prevented them from caging the Roberto Baggio led squad in the second round. Italy eventually prevailed by 2-1.


Prior to that the Eagles had humiliated Greece, Bulgaria and virtually retired Andoni Zubizarreta, the Spaniard all-time great goalkeeper who fumbled with the ball and allowed Eagles to run away with 3 – 2 win over Spain.


After USA’94 the Eagles had managed to put up mainly respectable, and at times shambolic, performances in subsequent appearances at the world cup in the first round almost always qualifying for the second round. That’s where they always stopped.


And that is why the Eagles are in greater trouble with their compatriots who follow the game with dizzying passion. So this time around the Super Eagles and their handlers must know that second round qualification is not enough.


The success at Russia 2018 will be measured by at least a quarter final berth. Anything short of that will be tantamount to a successful failure. And these Eagles Class of 2018 have what it takes to shake the world.


They have as Technical Adviser a man who seems to know his onions and has weathered the politics of the Football Association and the interference from high and low quarters.


Yes, Gernot Rohr has been inspiring and has engineered the team to deliver at critical times. He cannot afford not to deliver in Russia. And luckily for him he has a group of experienced players and new intakes who want to show that they have all it takes to become world beaters.


The Captain of the team, John Mikel Obi, is a veteran of sorts and he has shown that he has the support of his mates which is critical and the character of a team leader off and on the field of play. The likes of Victor Moses, Ahmed Musa, Ogenyi Onazi, Odion Ighalo, Abdulahi Sheu, Alex Iwobi have enough experience and fire in their belly to hold their own against any opposition.


And of course emerging key players like Kelechi, Leon Balogun and William Troost Ekong and new kid on the block Brian Idowu could also contribute to an anticipated success story in Russia.


Leon Balogun and William Troost Ekong and new kid on the block Brian Idowu could also contribute to an anticipated success story in Russia.


However, as in the past extraneous forces and matters must not be allowed to infiltrate the team and preparations. Before long, those who played little or no role in the qualification race will want to reap from where they did not sow and through subterfuge and influence peddling will create division in the team.


And of course, even ethnic jingoists and religious zealots are waiting in the wings to canvas for ethnic balance and religious equity. Such inanities and aberrations must not be imported into the march to Russia. Rohr must be given the free hand to select his team.


The role of the Football Association must be limited to contingency support from the background while government officials who have enough money to go to Russia must confine themselves to designated spots.



Former Super Eagles Chief Coach, Adegboye Onigbinde, has this advice for Rohr and his boys, ”The Eagles have a technical team employed to ensure they do well at competitions and I believe they should know what to do after seeing the way the team played both halves against Argentina.


The team can go on to win the World Cup next year if the right things are done-part of which is giving them quality matches to play to prepare them for the task ahead. No two games are the same, and the same Argentina we beat 4-2 may meet us at World Cup and beat us silly.


The team look good but they need reinforcements to enable them to keep up the performances and do better.


The players should guard against being overconfident because they have defeated Argentina”.
Certainly, a timely advice to steer Nigeria off the path of trouble in Russia.

Adebanjo, former sports editor of TELL Magazine, sent this piece via obanijesu@yahoo.com



http://thenewsnigeria.com.ng/2017/11/russia-2018-nigeria-in-trouble/?app=browser_push&entry1=push&entry2=auto&uc_msg=agoo%271752356832249778176%270


Spain in our group in USA 94 Author is confusing France 98 and USA 94.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:36am On Nov 17, 2017
Icon4s:
Thread on our Open Letter to the NFF and the coaching crew created.

https://www.nairaland.com/4180285/open-letter-nff-super-eagles#62435492

Done!

Posted on both Toyin Ibitoye and the NFF twitter handles.

The text box could not accommodate the whole message so I only posted the subject and referred them to the link to view the full message.

I also put a link to this great thread in the open letter so Toyin and the NFF can have a better view of more of our discussions here.

Well done all.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:38am On Nov 17, 2017
Dedebanky85:
The bolded shows he wasn't really valued within English ranks as you're trying to make it seem. How would a hitman move from supposed Scottish title contenders to English championship side? Not even EPL relegation fighters... Ok, after single handedly (whatever u call singlehandedly) bringing hull up, how much did he play in their epl campaign?
I am one of Aluko's admirers, but I would not attribute his omission to any upper powers. I feel it's due to coaches preferring other options.




Actually he left because the contract options in the championship exceed many other European leagues.

He went to Hull and even when Hull were relegated he had options in the EPL but he went with a forward thinking manager and a team that played the best football in the championship last season Fulham. A team that just missed out on promotion.

Remember quite a few players choose championship options over EPL. For a variety of reasons Ritchie left Bournemouth for Newcastle United so also did Gayle leave Crystal palace for Newcastle United.

I actually rate him on par with Iwobi.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 11:39am On Nov 17, 2017
Nwakaeme is not a super eagles material at least the present super eagles team. Call that sentimental and you just might be right.

I can liken his play to Emenike, but Emenike was a player I never really liked. Same with Wilfred Bony of CIV. There's something just off about their play, they're a bit too static, no much fluidity.

And who can we compare them with when we think of the strikers we've had in the past?

We need vibrant, fluid, agile, fast and sharp attackers. Just look at how we perfected the false 9 against Argentina that left them astonished.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:42am On Nov 17, 2017
goldfish80:

My apologies for jumping into your discussion. I feel Aluko switched to Nigeria for political reasons.
Sone's dad being a senator from Ogun state, must have thought it wise for his political ambitions to have Sone play for Nigeria. He cannot afford to have his 2 kids represent England, could be a nail on his political career.
His opponents will use it heavily against him.

Secondly, we know how patriarchal the African political climate is. It won't be out of question that the Aluko political dynasty could be eyeing up Sone as a replacement for his father's seat in the future. The Nigerian constitution restricts dual nationals political office.
It could be a political chess move.
I say this because Eniola blatantly refused to play for Nigeria. Being female, she could get away with it.

For me, that is what I can make out of the situation. Not for a fact though, just my thoughts.

I am sorry to inform you that is 100% TOTALLY WRONG.

His Father doesn't have that kind of influence on his son if any I'm sorry to say. He has been largely an absent father.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:42am On Nov 17, 2017
blueto:
Greetings!

This is my preferred starting eleven for now in the 3-5-2 formation.
Moses should start for the RWB role while the likes or Ebuehi and Shehu can come in as subs. We can recall during the last world cup edition in 2014, Moses couldn't do very well against world cup teams in a forward role, despite his impressive runs against African teams in Afcon and other subsequent games against African sides, so why not avoid the same mistakes this time?

Another point is that, he can also impress in the wing back role, he is indefatigable in running, he can draw players to himself, thereby providing more space for Iheanacho and Iwobi to do some serious damages to the opponent's defenses. He can also drift in the 18 yard box to cause havoc when Nigeria is attacking just like how Idowu was found in the 18 yard box of Argentina too from the LWB role.

Another very important thing that Nigeria stands to benefit if Moses plays wing back is a very good defensive cover. Chelsea rarely concedes a goal from the right side if Moses is on the pitch and he is playing RWB, I can tentatively say that Chelsea have NOT conceded a goal from that right side with Moses playing the RWB role and even if they have, it will be on very few occasions. he always have that side looked against any team, and since he got injured now, Chelsea have been conceding many goals from there, which goes to show what Moses have been offering in that role. Now imaging him playing that role again for Nigeria and replicating that form, that will be a big plus to Nigeria.

Another point is that the flow between Mikel, Iwobi and Iheanacho combination should not be tempered with for now. If Moses is made to play a forward role now, his style of football may not suit the flow and thereby disrupting it. The combination between Mikel, Iwobi and Iheanacho have been devastating to defenses and should continue.

Why I picked Ogu ahead of Onazi for now is because of his good combination with Ndidi. We see the best of each other (Ndidi and Ogu) when they play. Ogu have showed he also has some pace and can use his positioning also to neutralize attacks, which can come in handy against those highly rate teams.

Awaziem is good with his left foot so he should play in the LCB role while Balogun should move to the center beacause of his "lack of pace."


So here is my preferred line up for now
Sweet analysis. The 5-3-2 strategy should be perfected to a high pitch so that we can use it against top sides like Brazil, Germany, France, Spain etc.
Mikel has very good understanding of the movement of all those in front of him from Ighalo to Moses to Iheanacho to Iwobi. But truly there was a fluidity in the flow between him, Iheanacho and Iwobi. I really do wish that that understanding cuts deeply across the forward line such that all our offensive players have telepathy amongst themselves.

Rohr has a tough decision to make:I don't think it's good for us to feature both Ndidi and Onazi at the same time. He has to chose because truly Ndidi played better with Ogu. I feel it has to do with the fact that Ogu is predominantly left footed and balances the play by stretching it towards the left hand side of the pitch leaving Ndidi to run on the right. Watch the match again:you'd rarely see Ogu on the RMF or Ndidi on the LMF. But both Ndidi and Onazi are predominantly right footed and tilt the game in only the right direction and thereby choking each other. So if you understand the dynamics of Yin /Yang you'd see why Ogu and Ndidi flow better than Ndidi and Onazi who both provide Yang/Yang energy. Joel Obi too should be brought to play as LMF. He's predominantly left footed.

Balogun is not pacy. He should be in the middle of the back three. Or better still Omeruo should slot right in there till Balogun regains his form. Beyond being slow, Balogun is now shaky. I don't know why. I think Rohr is still searching for a player that can play as LCB and I feel he'd snatch one of those German boys. I'm still not convinced about Idowu. He should be tested again.

On the attack Kayode has more to offer us than Nwakaeme. He should be given a run of game to show his quality. Onyekuru, Musa, Ighalo and Simon Moses are good for our attack. Your analysis on Victor Moses is quite perceptive cos I remember that at Brazil 2014 he was flat as an offensive player like you rightly said. His career too flip flopped while he played offensively for various clubsides. He's been reinvented as a RWB. We should be bold and put him there. Ebuehi will deputise for him. I don't know yet who will be our LWB or sub even.

On the whole the 5-3-2 is another tactical option which we just have to fine tune since we tried it within a squeezed time and we used it to great effect against Argentina. It shows that if it's practiced for an extended period of time our players will grasp it. Let's keep it in our tool bag waiting to unleash it on the appropriate opposition.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 11:46am On Nov 17, 2017
komekn:


Can I add tell me which top 5 FIFA rated national that does not have at least 5 players from the EPL.

I rest my case, for the mediocre over hyped league.



Them go scratch head tire now. Outside those Asian teams, they'd struggle to come up with names.


One has to challenge the falsehood making rounds everyday, else it's taken as the truth and as a result many are misinformed.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:47am On Nov 17, 2017
goldfish80:

I remember Philip Idowu, he represented in England in long jumps.

I sensed political undertone abit from Aluko's case because his sister refused playing for Nigeria. If they were as patriotic as we think, they both should have played for naij.

Sone could have political ambitions in the future. It would have been impossible for him to get top political appointment if he represented another country. Recall Fashanu, even with his connections and influence was not permitted to run for any electoral office in the glass house.
He tried a couple of times and gave up.

Well i can't really say much on Eniola but Sone look more Nigerian than his sister just like John connect to Nigeria than Justin.

This elite family don't force their children to decide except giving advise and safeguard their decision.

It must have erased your memory John Fashanu won an election to NFA board representing Ogun State and head marketing.He was once a board member

Even Segun Odegbami despite is high profile as ex Nigeria international with solid connection especially in world of football find it difficult to become NFF chairman.

As i said Nigeria political value regards sports as zero,they don't care what is going on.Hope you remember Igali a Canadian Olympic gold medalist who represented Nigeria before switched but now in the board of NWF,a very sensitive country w not allowed Igali to contest talkless of being in the board even served as a coach.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:48am On Nov 17, 2017
forgiveness:


Was Iwobi close to playing for the England National team before he played for Nigeria?

Without the National team Arsenal wouldn't have renewed his contract because he was never rated but now see what the national team did for his career.

Dude, talent wise, Aluko is never behind Iwobi.

Seconded without argument 100%
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by terzurum5(m): 11:50am On Nov 17, 2017
Mujtahida:

Colin not Collins

But I wonder why he'd bear the name and not go with the popular spelling.
Oh thanks.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:50am On Nov 17, 2017
Icon4s:


Done!

Posted on both Toyin Ibitoye and the NFF twitter handles.

The text box could not accommodate the whole message so I only posted the subject and referred them to the link to view the full message.

I also put a link to this great thread in the open letter so Toyin and the NFF can have a better view of more of our discussions here.

Well done all.
Well done Sire

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:57am On Nov 17, 2017
Actually Colin is a different name entirely. It's not like Bryan versus Brian.
See this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_(given_name)

Mujtahida:

Colin not Collins

But I wonder why he'd bear the name and not go with the popular spelling.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:57am On Nov 17, 2017
junnyjake:
Nwakaeme is not a super eagles material at least the present super eagles team. Call that sentimental and you just might be right.

I can liken his play to Emenike, but Emenike was a player I never really liked. Same with Wilfred Bony of CIV. There's something just off about their play, they're a bit too static, no much fluidity.

And who can we compare them with when we think of the strikers we've had in the past?

We need vibrant, fluid, agile, fast and sharp attackers. Just look at how we perfected the false 9 against Argentina that left them astonished.
Nwakaeme is a good player but not suitable for our current style. If we play Nwakaeme we go dey hear clang, clack, gri gri gri in the engine of the team perhaps with a goal or two to show for it. But Omo, all our goals against Argentina were so fluid that if you don't concentrate the only thing you'd see is the ball inside the net.

The last bolded is why I prefer Kayode to Nwakaeme. He is pacy and strong and relentless. He would slot into our turbo charged forward line better than Nwakaeme.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:57am On Nov 17, 2017
sontoly:


The way you talk as if aluko hasnt played for Nigeria before, as if we havent seen what he is capable of doing, but let me let you know that talent wise he can never bench anybody in the current squad.

You have been shouting solanke since morning cos he plays for liverpool and you forgot about jordan ibe who was even said to be better than him but where is ibe now??.

I bet you didnt watch leicester last game cos u wont be talking abt iheanacho this way, you must be a novice in the knowledge of football, you pour all your sentiments out hoping that we are all kids that will swallow everything u vomits.

For your information we have the best players that we need, if the coach decided to stretch his hands to try new leggs it wont be because of ur online rant on nairaland.

So for ur information respect d coaches decision cos i know u aint better.

At no time has there been kind of comparison between Ibe and Solanke.

Ibe is essentially a winger and Solanke is a true striker. They never met at Liverpool.

In reality for what he does I rate him more than Iwobi which in your sentiment you will fund hard to believe.

This summer how many teams pur in a bid for Iwobi he almost lost his position in Arsenal because he lacked consistency.

Not too long ago a well known contributor said that Iwobi was better than the Ox. Claiming that every EPL manager would rather have Iwobi, I quietly told him he was wrong. Using sentiment to cloud objective judgement. My final yardstick was to see how many clubs would go for him Iwobi compared to the Ox. Well the Ox is at Liverpool rejecting almost double the money to play in his prefered position of AM.

Now that we have dealt with Iwobi outside of Mikel who is able to compete with Aluko
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:58am On Nov 17, 2017
Mujtahida:

Aluko is not on the radar at all for the Super Eagles. But some don't want to face reality.

That may be the case, but why

That's the more pertinent question. If we can bring in Osimhen, Success, Nwakali, Agu, Awazeim, Ogu, I'm talking club performance not position.

Then why not Aluko.

And if we can not answer that question sincerely then it exposes our lack of integrity in our quest to sign or attract Nigerian origin players.

Tayo Edun is a Fulham player recently called to the England camp senior team. When he asks Aluko what happened I wonder if he will consider playing for the SE.

There are unwholesome practices that are still not yet removed from our football.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Betdey: 12:03pm On Nov 17, 2017
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:06pm On Nov 17, 2017
komekn:


That may be the case, but why

That's the more pertinent question. If we can bring in Osimhen, Success, Nwakali, Agu, Awazeim, Ogu, I'm talking club performance not position.

Then why not Aluko.
Try for Aluko to be invited if you can cos we here na talk we dey ooo. We can't really influence anything. However note: I see Rohr building his team on the core of the Qatar u- 17 team with good addition from other players hence he does not hesitate to invite younger players.(emphasis on younger)
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:09pm On Nov 17, 2017
blueto:
Greetings!

This is my preferred starting eleven for now in the 3-5-2 formation.
Moses should start for the RWB role while the likes or Ebuehi and Shehu can come in as subs. We can recall during the last world cup edition in 2014, Moses couldn't do very well against world cup teams in a forward role, despite his impressive runs against African teams in Afcon and other subsequent games against African sides, so why not avoid the same mistakes this time?

Another point is that, he can also impress in the wing back role, he is indefatigable in running, he can draw players to himself, thereby providing more space for Iheanacho and Iwobi to do some serious damages to the opponent's defenses. He can also drift in the 18 yard box to cause havoc when Nigeria is attacking just like how Idowu was found in the 18 yard box of Argentina too from the LWB role.

Another very important thing that Nigeria stands to benefit if Moses plays wing back is a very good defensive cover. Chelsea rarely concedes a goal from the right side if Moses is on the pitch and he is playing RWB, I can tentatively say that Chelsea have NOT conceded a goal from that right side with Moses playing the RWB role and even if they have, it will be on very few occasions. he always have that side looked against any team, and since he got injured now, Chelsea have been conceding many goals from there, which goes to show what Moses have been offering in that role. Now imaging him playing that role again for Nigeria and replicating that form, that will be a big plus to Nigeria.

Another point is that the flow between Mikel, Iwobi and Iheanacho combination should not be tempered with for now. If Moses is made to play a forward role now, his style of football may not suit the flow and thereby disrupting it. The combination between Mikel, Iwobi and Iheanacho have been devastating to defenses and should continue.

Why I picked Ogu ahead of Onazi for now is because of his good combination with Ndidi. We see the best of each other (Ndidi and Ogu) when they play. Ogu have showed he also has some pace and can use his positioning also to neutralize attacks, which can come in handy against those highly rate teams.

Awaziem is good with his left foot so he should play in the LCB role while Balogun should move to the center beacause of his "lack of pace."


So here is my preferred line up for now

If Rohr should adopt this system, then 2 of Aina, Ebuehi, and Shehu may not make it to Russia.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:10pm On Nov 17, 2017
Mujtahida:

Try for Aluko to be invited if you can cos we here na talk we dey ooo. We can't really influence anything. However note: I see Rohr building his team on the core of the Qatar u- 17 team with good addition from other players hence he does not hesitate to invite younger players.(emphasis on younger)

If that's his strategy then it's flawed. The transitions from youth football to senior is difficult most do not make it to reflect, the highs of youth football glories they achieved.

Youth level shows potential and after that a lot of work to make it happen.

Succes, Osimhen, and others are not in the ascendancy. If compared to thier age mates. Even KC is struggling if the truth must be told at Leicester.

And
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:15pm On Nov 17, 2017
@ Mujtahida

page 54 (Take note #8 )

44 List of players and accreditation
Release list of players
1.
Each association that qualifi es for the fi nal competition shall provide FIFA with
a list of no more than 30 players (hereinafter: the release list) whom it has
called up in accordance with the relevant provisions of Annexe 1 of the FIFA
Regulations on the Status and Transfer of Players.
2.
The release list shall contain information such as the full last name(s), all fi rst
names, popular name, name on the shirt, place and date of birth, passport
number and expiry date, name and country of the club, height, weight,
number of caps attained, number of international goals scored, and it must be
sent to FIFA. Further details of the release list, and the deadline by which the
list shall be submitted to the FIFA general secretariat, will be stipulated in the
relevant circular.
3.
The release lists shall be published by the FIFA general secretariat.
Final competition 55
Final list of players
4.
Each association shall then be required to provide FIFA with a fi nal list of
23 players (three of whom shall be goalkeepers) and 27 offi cials (hereinafter:
the fi nal list). This fi nal list is limited to the players on the release list. The fi nal
list should show the full last name(s), all fi rst names, popular name, name and
number on the shirt, position, place and date of birth, passport number and
expiry date, name and country of the club, height, weight, number of caps
attained number of international goals scored and shall be submitted to the
FIFA general secretariat by the deadline stipulated in the relevant circular,
using the offi cial form for this purpose.
5.
Only these 23 players (except in cases of force majeure recognised by the FIFA
Organising Committee) shall be permitted to compete in the fi nal competition.
Only the numbers 1 to 23 may be allocated to these players, with number 1
being reserved exclusively for one of the goalkeepers. The numbers on the
back of the shirts shall correspond with the numbers indicated on the fi nal list.
6.
The fi nal lists shall be published by the FIFA general secretariat.
7.
The fi nal list of 23 players plus 27 offi cials will constitute the Offi cial Team
Delegation list.
Replacement of injured players
8.
A player listed on the fi nal list may only be replaced in the event of serious
injury up until 24 hours before the kick-off of his team’s fi rst match. The
replacement players do not need to be limited to the release list. Such
replacements must be approved in writing by the FIFA Medical Committee
upon receipt and acceptance of a written detailed medical assessment in one
of the four offi cial FIFA languages. The FIFA Medical Committee shall approve
the request if the injury is suffi ciently serious to prevent the player from taking
part in the competition. Upon approval, the association shall immediately
nominate a replacement and inform the FIFA general secretariat accordingly
(including all the specifi c player information listed in par. 4 herein as well as
a copy of the passport). The replacement player must be assigned the shirt
number of the injured player being replaced.
56 Final competition
Identity
9.
Before the start of the fi nal competition, all listed players must prove their
identity, nationality and age by producing their legally valid individual
passport with photograph (stating day, month and year of birth). Any player
who fails to submit his passport shall not be allowed to take part in the fi nal
competition.
Accreditation
10.
FIFA and/or the LOC shall issue each of the offi cial Team Delegation Members
with an accreditation bearing a photograph. In addition, FIFA shall provide
a certain number of Supplementary Accreditation Devices (SADs), where
applicable, to each team in order to control and restrict access to the dressing
rooms and fi eld of play on matchdays. Further details will be given to the
teams at the Team Workshop and by means of a circular letter.
11.
Only those players who are in possession of such accreditation are entitled to
play in the matches of the fi nal competition. The accreditation should always
be available for inspection prior to the start of the match.
12.
Injured players who are replaced up until 24 hours before the kick-off of their
team’s fi rst match (cf. art. 44 par. 8 ) must return their accreditation to FIFA.
Accordingly, players who have returned their accreditation shall no longer be
considered members of the Offi cial Team Delegation list.
13.
The participating member associations shall ensure that all accreditation data
required by FIFA is submitted by the deadline stipulated by FIFA. Further details
will be outlined in the relevant FIFA circular letter
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 12:20pm On Nov 17, 2017
Hello guys.. Which African team do you think can perform most in the World Cup. Realistic predictions please
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:21pm On Nov 17, 2017
komekn:


If that's his strategy then it's flawed. The transitions from youth football to senior is difficult most do not make it to reflect, the highs of youth football glories they achieved.

Youth level shows potential and after that a lot of work to make it happen.

Succes, Osimhen, and others are not in the ascendancy. If compared to thier age mates. Even KC is struggling if the truth must be told at Leicester.

And
I'm sorry to say this - from reading you here I have the impression that most of our players are not good enough in your eyes and I don't think you'd be satisfied until our first eleven is made up thus:

------------------------Arthur Okonkwo - - - - - - - - - - -

Aina/Odubajo - - - Iorfa - - - Fikayo T- - - SeyiOjo

Onyedinma----- Aneke /Aluko - - - Josh Onomah


Solanke - - - - - Tammy - - - - - - - Edun

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