patrickmuf:
You are spot on, I was going to respond to those criticizing Mata but thank God you did, he makes us play better along with Pogba, always showing up for a pass...Mhki is the one that should buckle up...

Mkhitaryan likes to be very direct while Mata is more useful in the slow build up. The more direct player is usually the better player, but he needs good build up players around him to help his directness.

The more direct player is likely going to make more wrong passes, fail to make a good first touch and lose possession because he is thinking of how to attack with the ball rather than making a pass (backward, sideward, forward).

So a player like Mkhitaryan might go to a team like Barca or Bayern and excel while a player like Mata might go to such teams to make up the numbers. In United, Mkhitaryan might play better with a player like Pogba and Martial. These guys take men away from the number 10. He will be able to do counter with a player like Rashford when Pogba gives that long pass.

patrickmuf:
I feel the closest player to Pogba in our books in terms of passing range is Andreas Pereira, we should recall him come January and let him deputize for Pogba...Herrera should rotate with Matic for games against the bottom teams at Old Trafford, Mou should rotate to avoid burnout of key personnel.
Now unto the next game, if Shaw doesn't start at Basle then he is officially gone. I'd love to see Rojo and Shaw in the first team for the trip to Basle I just hope Mou will not start Matic and Lukaku, they need a bit of rest...

I think Pareira is an average player.

SailorXY:
I think we need to learn how to be patient with new players. For those that played this game even @ street competition level here know that sometimes it takes you time to get going when you step onto an unfamiliar pitch.

The way we join fans of other clubs to jump on our new players here is appalling. Yes he's not playing well but is he the first like that? In recent memory we have seen the likes of Vidic, Evra & de Gea all mess up their first few months till they had a turn around & became gods. Agreed not all will be good signings but @ least give them room to fail.

Where are all the "waste of money", "barber to barber" chanting mongrels now? abeg we call ourselves "supporters" for a reason.

On your last paragraph, some of you are mistaking genuine match day criticism of players to mean condemnation. That was what Lekkie073 just did.

To set the record straight, I never called Pogba any of those names - Barber, haircut, waste of money -, but considering the amount of money that he was bought with and the fact that that he was performing far below Kante, he deserved the scrutiny.

elampiro:


On your last paragraph, some of you are mistaking genuine match day criticism of players to mean condemnation. That was what Lekkie073 just did.

To set the record straight, I never called Pogba any of those names - Barber, haircut, waste of money -, but considering the amount of money that he was bought with and the fact that that he was performing far below Kante, he deserved the scrutiny.

u don't need to call him barberlord when u say "considering d amount of money blah blah blah, ain't u indirectly saying the same thing as 'waste of money'

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elampiro:


I think Pareira is an average player.

He already has a good passing range to his game, with more game time, I reckon he'd fit in as an able deputy...

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Neymar1095:

Quick reminder that £100m bargain Paul
Pogba still has no big game performances
for Manchester United....fraud

God please give this man little sense

elampiro:


Mkhitaryan likes to be very direct while Mata is more useful in the slow build up. The more direct player is usually the better player, but he needs good build up players around him to help his directness.

The more direct player is likely going to make more wrong passes, fail to make a good first touch and lose possession because he is thinking of how to attack with the ball rather than making a pass (backward, sideward, forward).

So a player like Mkhitaryan might go to a team like Barca or Bayern and excel while a player like Mata might go to such teams to make up the numbers. In United, Mkhitaryan might play better with a player like Pogba and Martial. These guys take men away from the number 10. He will be able to do counter with a player like Rashford when Pogba gives that long pass.

At this point, we have to rate them based on their ability to perform on the right wing cos Zlatan is more likely to be given the nod to play behind Lukaku and for his ability to bring Valencia into the play by constantly drifting inside and helping us retain possession, I'd opt for Mata rather than Mhki on the right...

I will never understand why some of these clowns need to tell bare faced lies in order not to seem infallible? Just like high school kids!

Smh!

Elampiro stylishly saying 'waste of money'

Lekkie073 been waiting for this moment for a long time

paafin:
Lekkie073 been waiting for this moment for a long time

nah....
just there there is a time for everything.
a time to post rubbish emotionally and a time to be reminded of the rubbish u posted emotionally

elampiro:


On your last paragraph, some of you are mistaking genuine match day criticism of players to mean condemnation. That was what Lekkie073 just did.

To set the record straight, I never called Pogba any of those names - Barber, haircut, waste of money -, but considering the amount of money that he was bought with and the fact that that he was performing far below Kante, he deserved the scrutiny.

I think "genuine" matchday criticism should not apply to new players for obvious reasons, but that's my opinion. If Pogba was playing poorly now & you propose he's offered as burnt offering to the gods of Edo, nobody will oppose it.

If you made Kante your benchmark that's nobody's fault. It's because you were influenced by opposing fans who were so eager to ensure your new players don't settle in well. There's no rule that says who started better will come out tops after all is done.

I wasn't even making the post because of you, it's just a general observation.

lekkie073:
nah....
just there there is a time for everything.
a time to post rubbish emotionally and a time to be reminded of the rubbish u posted emotionally

taiwoliu:

This is jersey that looks like Power Rangers Mighty Morphins suit lol

Savage.

lekkie073:
u don't need to call him barberlord when u say "considering d amount of money blah blah blah, ain't u indirectly saying the same thing as 'waste of money'

I can't see anything in what you dug up. Normal Rooney talk on a match day.

lekkie073:
Elampiro stylishly saying 'waste of money'

Try harder. Nothing in there to suggest I meant waste of money. Just a normal match day defence of Rooney where being made scapegoat.

There's nothing in those pictures to prove your point nau

eph12:
There's nothing in those pictures to prove your point nau

There is

lekkie073:
Elampiro stylishly saying 'waste of money'

Direct comparism between Rooney and Pogba while quoting Pogba's price tag after a poor match. Pogba was not the main culprit for that poor game but alas, he was mentioned along with his price tag.

eph12:
There's nothing in those pictures to prove your point nau

pogba is lazy.....
Pogba is A shitty Player....



what more do u need as 'points'?

those terms r used when u describe someone in perpetuity.
meaning Dats how he has been, Dats how he is and Dats how he will continue to be

eph1 is an adult. can anything change dat? behaving like a teenager wouldn't change dat, abi?

paafin:


There is



Direct comparism between Rooney and Pogba while quoting Pogba's price tag after a poor match. Pogba was not the main culprit for that poor game but alas, he was mentioned along with his price tag.

He was one of the culprits.

lekkie073:
pogba is lazy.....
Pogba is A shitty Player....



what more do u need as 'points'?

those terms r used when u describe someone in perpetuity.
meaning Dats how he has been, Dats how he is and Dats how he will continue to be

eph1 is an adult. can anything change dat? behaving like a teenager wouldn't change dat, abi?

Pogba was dropping underwhelming performances last season

odizeey:
I said this earlier. But it seems words from my monicker sounds like a joke.

my gee

lekkie073:
Elampiro stylishly saying 'waste of money'

elampiro would drag messi to defend Rooney, back in the day. Ain't not'n new

paafin:


There is



Direct comparism between Rooney and Pogba while quoting Pogba's price tag after a poor match. Pogba was not the main culprit for that poor game but alas, he was mentioned along with his price tag.

That was because Rooney's weekly wages of 300k was mentioned week after week.

Again, mention of price tag didn't mean I said it was a waste of money. Reason maturely. It meant he was suppose to bear the biggest blame ahead of Rooney.

lekkie073:
nah....
just there there is a time for everything.
a time to post rubbish emotionally and a time to be reminded of the rubbish u posted emotionally

You are the one that is being emotional. Nothing in those screenshots to suggest Pogba was being called a waste.

No player, whether 1 million pounds or 100 million pounds that didn't get match day bashing last season.

Moreover, Pogba was mostly shite last season. Herrera and Valencia won the team player of season when we had Pogba.

SailorXY:
I think "genuine" matchday criticism should not apply to new players for obvious reasons, but that's my opinion. If Pogba was playing poorly now & you propose he's offered as burnt offering to the gods of Edo, nobody will oppose it.

If you made Kante your benchmark that's nobody's fault. It's because you were influenced by opposing fans who were so eager to ensure your new players don't settle in well. There's no rule that says who started better will come out tops after all is done.

I wasn't even making the post because of you, it's just a general observation.

Listen to yourself. How can genuine match day criticism not apply to new players? Schneiderlin, Fellaini, Darmian, Butner, Lindelof, Di Maria, Falcao, Tosic, Obertan, etc should never have been criticized because we had a few players who turned it around the second season?

Some guys are still saying Pogba is yet to play against the big 6, so we should be calm and not carried away.

lekkie073:
pogba is lazy.....
Pogba is A shitty Player....



what more do u need as 'points'?

those terms r used when u describe someone in perpetuity.
meaning Dats how he has been, Dats how he is and Dats how he will continue to be

eph1 is an adult. can anything change dat? behaving like a teenager wouldn't change dat, abi?

I never said Pogba is lazy or shitty. You are trying too hard to make a point that will never exist. I remember saying Pogba was over holding the ball and doing unnecessary leg over. I was one of those who was very lenient with Pogba because I knew he had potentials.

You no know ball. Match day criticism is normal, mostly after a defeat to a small team and everyone here pounced on Rooney while protecting others.

elampiro:


I never said Pogba is lazy or shitty. You are trying too hard to make a point that will never exist. I remember saying Pogba was over holding the ball and doing unnecessary leg over. I was one of those who was very lenient with Pogba because I knew he had potentials.

You no know ball. Match day criticism is normal, mostly after a defeat to a small team and everyone here pounced on Rooney while protecting others.

Ah ah!! But in the screenshots above you called Pogba shitty in one and Lazy in another. How far na? Abi na lekkie fotochop the shots?

Mystic1:

Ah ah!! But in the screenshots above you called Pogba shitty in one and Lazy in another. How far na? Abi na lekkie fotochop the shots?

What are you talking about? Nothing like that. Go back and read again, it was about having poor match day or not being able to help the team. Also that Pogba was allowed to have 90 minutes always no matter his performance.

Most importantly, I am still waiting for when I said he is waste of money.