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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:59am On Nov 20, 2017
elampiro:


The potential is there. He will do well. But let him keep it simple and play with the team.

This was one of my post about Pogba on December 15th last year
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:07am On Nov 20, 2017
elampiro:


Pogba did well today. He was position conscious. He did well going forward. He created chances for Ibrahimovic.

My comment from October 29th last year
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:11am On Nov 20, 2017
elampiro:

If everyone is fit, we should line up like this:

........................ DDG

Jones/Bailly.. Bailly/Jones.. Chris... Shaw

................ Herrera/Carrick

..... Valencia.................. Pogba

.......... Mkhitaryan/Mata/Rooney

............Ibrahimovic..... Rashford/Martial


Or


........................ DDG

Jones/Bailly.. Bailly/Jones.. Chris... Shaw

................ Herrera/Carrick

.... ... Valencia.................. Pogba


Mkhitaryan ........Ibrahimovic..... Martial

The idea will be to utilize Valencia to his fullest, very close to what he does for Ecuador. He will offer energy, pace and protection to the midfield. He helps out defence and carries the ball forward fast either through the middle or in the wing.

Even if Valencia overlaps, our defence shape will be intact with Jones pinning the right back.

Pogba will finally be free to express himself while Valencia and Herrera cover his mess. Pogba is given more licence to adventure forward.


Blind fights for the left back position. Rooney, Rashford and Mata fight for the forward roles.

With this we will be hard to beat, and we will easily beat the small teams.



If I meant he was waste of money, why did I put him in my line up last year?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:26am On Nov 20, 2017
elampiro:

Jamie Carragher analysed Paul Pogba's Manchester derby performance on Monday Night Football, describing his first-half display as "ill-disciplined".

Carragher said Pogba's positioning throughout the first half left his midfield team-mate exposed to David Silva and Kevin De Bruyne, who impressed as City grabbed the initiative before holding on for victory.

"I don't think it was so much that Pep Guardiola got it massively right than Jose Mourinho got it tactically wrong," Carragher said.

"He wasn't helped by the performance of his players - he subbed two at half-time - but specifically the performance of Paul Pogba.

"For a central midfielder in a game of that magnitude, I think for the first 40 minutes it was one of the most ill-disciplined performances you will see.
"The only way to describe it was like watching the best player in the schoolyard that runs where he wants and does what he wants.

"Five minutes into a Manchester derby, when you know the centre of the pitch is so important to stopping Man City, he finds himself in a left-wing role trying to receive the ball.
"I never thought I'd say this, but I felt so sorry for Fellaini. He was left on his own in the centre of the pitch and there was so much space [for Man City].

"Pogba has cost what he has cost and he has done what he has done, he's not a kid. He is 23. You find yourself looking at situations where Man Utd are leaving acres of space in the most important part of the pitch against a Pep Guardiola team.
"His job, when you are playing in a two in midfield, is to be disciplined, especially against Silva and De Bruyne. It is either he has got it wrong or Mourinho has given him licence to do what he wants and that is wrong."
Carragher and fellow Monday Night Football analyst Phil Neville also discussed how Man Utd can get the best out of Pogba in the future, with the pair agreeing a three-man midfield is necessary for big games.
"I have criticised Pogba for his performance, but he has great talent and abilities," Carragher added.
"I wouldn't say you would ever build a team around one man, but if you've spent that much money, I think if you are picking your team, you say, 'Where are we getting the best out of him?' Then others can work around that.
www.skysports.com/football/news/29327/10575854/jamie-carragher-breaks-down-paul-pogbas-manchester-derby-performance


Pogba was not having a good time last season particularly first half of the season. Great analysts like Scholes, Carragher also criticized him. The criticism was justified based on his poor performance that period. I saw other places they said he was missing chances to score empty net. So we should have clapped for him?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:31am On Nov 20, 2017
elampiro:

I don't understand the hate for Rooney. The guy played well.

Mkhitaryan will have his time, the season is very long. I actually struggled to see Mkhitaryan on the pitch until injury time and when Southampton had no hope of coming into the game again.

Pogba is money well spent
.

I like Bailly's jumping power, but there is some areas he need to mature.

Valencia and Shaw always tucked in while we are defending with Mata and Martial covering the wide for them. Not too sure we did fine with it, but it was okay to put plenty bodies in the box.

Fellaini was good again. But together with Pogba and Rooney, we will need to 'charge' the opponents harder.


August 19th 2016

Lekkie073 and SailorXY. My first impression about Pogba in the beginning of last season. You see now?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 5:20am On Nov 20, 2017
cool

After listening to the Defence of the Accused, this Court is convinced that the Accused ain't guilty of the Allegations charged against him by the Plaintiff.

Thus..... here is my Judgment; he, elampiro, is hereby acquitted of all the Charges.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 6:18am On Nov 20, 2017
elampiro:


August 19th 2016

Lekkie073 and SailorXY. My first impression about Pogba in the beginning of last season. You see now?
I have already showed ur posts calling him shitty and lazy. don't say u never called him so. I remember when he was still underperforming, u called me out telling ppl that I was the one dat convinced u about pogba. u never believed in him. cool

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 7:20am On Nov 20, 2017
PietroRico:
my gee grin grin
Dockee, how fa
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by EmmGee: 7:48am On Nov 20, 2017
funlord:


"This feels special. Different day, same quality. I’m not worried at all – I train hard, sacrifice a lot. I play in my head, my knee just needs to follow.

Was I worried about returning? No. Lions don’t recover like humans.”



Zlatan............BT sport

..."we're doing the lion thing again" cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:29am On Nov 20, 2017
Oasis007:
cool

After listening to the Defence of the Accused, this Court is convinced that the Accused ain't guilty of the Allegations charged against him by the Plaintiff.

Thus..... here is my Judgment; he, elampiro, is hereby acquitted of all the Charges.

Courtttttttt!!!!!!!

All rise.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 8:58am On Nov 20, 2017
elampiro:


I never said Pogba is lazy or shitty. You are trying too hard to make a point that will never exist. I remember saying Pogba was over holding the ball and doing unnecessary leg over. I was one of those who was very lenient with Pogba because I knew he had potentials.

You no know ball. Match day criticism is normal, mostly after a defeat to a small team and everyone here pounced on Rooney while protecting others.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 8:59am On Nov 20, 2017
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 9:02am On Nov 20, 2017
the only difference between elampiro and raum is d club each supports.aside that, they r twins mentally .

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 9:09am On Nov 20, 2017
Elampiro guilty on two count charges of "shiity and lazy" ... I hereby adjourn the hearing till further notice.

CC: Mr Elampiro Osamiemie Ugbajahie , any further attempt to challenge this decision and you'll be charged with contempt of court and perjury !!! angry

To the plaintiff lekkie073, case is adjourned ; further hearings will be communicated.

*bangs base of 9mm Desert Eagle in place of gavel *

Cooooourt......rise!!!!! >:

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by funlord(m): 9:18am On Nov 20, 2017
lekkie073:
the only difference between elampiro and raum is d club each supports.aside that, they r twins mentally .


This is the absolute truth....they both have degrees in senseless amalanomics and take being wrong when discussing football as some sort of death sentence! I can't believe what I'm reading.... Tufiakwa

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by joeace2020(m): 9:18am On Nov 20, 2017
elrony:
Elampiro guilty on two count charges of "shiity and lazy" ... I hereby adjourn the hearing till further notice.

CC: Mr Elampiro Osamiemie Ugbajahie , any further attempt to challenge this decision and you'll be charged with contempt of court and perjury !!! angry

To the plaintiff lekkie073, case is adjourned ; further hearings will be communicated.

*bangs base of 9mm Desert Eagle in place of gavel *

Cooooourt......rise!!!!! >:

Lol.. Your crase don resume? grin grin Welcome back
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:19am On Nov 20, 2017
elrony:
Elampiro guilty on two count charges of "shiity and lazy" ... I hereby adjourn the hearing till further notice.

CC: Mr Elampiro Osamiemie Ugbajahie , any further attempt to challenge this decision and you'll be charged with contempt of court and perjury !!! angry

To the plaintiff lekkie073, case is adjourned ; further hearings will be communicated.

*bangs base of 9mm Desert Eagle in place of gavel *

Cooooourt......rise!!!!! >:

cheesy

Adjourn wetin? Don't tell me you're going on a break at 9am in the morning. Let them discuss their mata to the fullest
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:19am On Nov 20, 2017
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This doesn't amount to your false accusation that I said he was waste of money.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by joeace2020(m): 9:25am On Nov 20, 2017
Meanwhile when New Castle went up against us, some bad belle FC members who have already lost to Burnley and Man City at home this season with more to come where already celebrating our 1st home loss not knowing old trafford is no Stamford Bridge and our manager is no looser at home. We have moved past the expected one loss in 2 or 3 home games under gollum to 39 matches at home without a loss and one loss under Mourinho as manager at Old Trafford. I saw this stat on the Red Cafe on Mourinho's managerial career and it is mind blowing that 17 years of professional football has produced only 10 home defeats. That is quite remarkable. Funny enough it was the "blue rats" who caused half of his losses if not that record would have been even unthinkable.



2000-2001: Benfica (4W-1D-0L)
2001-2002: Uniao de Leiria (7W-3D-0L)
2002-2004: Porto (38W-2D-1L)
- Lost to Beira-Mar
2004-2007: Chelsea (46W-14D-0L)
2008-2010: Inter (29W-9D-0L)
2010-2013: Real Madrid (49W-5D-3L)
- Lost to Sporting Gijon, Real Zaragoza and Barcelona
2013-2015: Chelsea (33W-8D-5L)
- Lost to Sunderland, Crystal Palace, Southampton, Liverpool and Bournemouth
2016 onwards: Manchester United (29W-11D-1L)
- Lost to Manchester City

298 games played, 10 lost.
Wins: 81.3%, Losses: 3.3%.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 9:25am On Nov 20, 2017
joeace2020:


Lol.. Your crase don resume? grin grin Welcome back

Lol.. If not that we are on recess I woulda charged you with character panelbeating angry angry
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:25am On Nov 20, 2017
elrony:
Elampiro guilty on two count charges of "shiity and lazy" ... I hereby adjourn the hearing till further notice.

CC: Mr Elampiro Osamiemie Ugbajahie , any further attempt to challenge this decision and you'll be charged with contempt of court and perjury !!! angry

To the plaintiff lekkie073, case is adjourned ; further hearings will be communicated.

*bangs base of 9mm Desert Eagle in place of gavel *

Cooooourt......rise!!!!! >:

You no know law. First, match day analysis is not a general statement. Just like I said Ibrahimovic is slow and cant go on vs one with a defender. It doesn't mean he has never done anything like that, it only meant he is not in form or past it. . Similarly, when I say Martial cannot do a long distance run with the ball. There must be assessment of current form. It is different from writing off a player and saying he is a waste of money.

Lastly, lazy and shitty were not even in the original change. Pogba was slow and lazy in the first half of last season. Go and read analysis of Pogba around November last year. We all knew his potentials but he was playing poorly.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 9:26am On Nov 20, 2017
Leyqute:


cheesy

Adjourn wetin? Don't tell me you're going on a break at 9am in the morning. Let them discuss their mata to the fullest

I have to take my ginseng tea, it's going to be a long day in the courtroom cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by joeace2020(m): 9:30am On Nov 20, 2017
elrony:


Lol.. If not that we are on recess I woulda charged you with character panelbeating angry angry

grin grin Charge and bail lawyer or brown envelope judge
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:33am On Nov 20, 2017
lekkie073:
the only difference between elampiro and raum is d club each supports.aside that, they r twins mentally .

You know you are fighting a lost battle. Show me where I said Pogba was a WASTE OF MONEY.

If you cannot, shame on you and your cohort funlord.

Even Scholes said he was not convinced of Pogba's price. As of last season, Pogba didn't deserve that money United spent on him. But with current market this season, we can say okay.

Doubt about the worth of a player doesn't amount to stating the money spent was wasted. When Ferguson paid for Rooney, he said called his friend Fabio Capello, and mentioned if he actually was doing the right thing paying so much for a teenager.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 9:33am On Nov 20, 2017
elrony:
Elampiro guilty on two count charges of "shiity and lazy" ... I hereby adjourn the hearing till further notice.

CC: Mr Elampiro Osamiemie Ugbajahie , any further attempt to challenge this decision and you'll be charged with contempt of court and perjury !!! angry

To the plaintiff lekkie073, case is adjourned ; further hearings will be communicated.

*bangs base of 9mm Desert Eagle in place of gavel *

Cooooourt......rise!!!!! >:
grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 9:37am On Nov 20, 2017
elampiro:


You no know law. First, match day analysis is not a general statement. Just like I said Ibrahimovic is slow and cant go on vs one with a defender. It doesn't mean he has never done anything like that, it only meant he is not in form or past it. . Similarly, when I say Martial cannot do a long distance run with the ball. There must be assessment of current form. It is different from writing off a player and saying he is a waste of money.

Lastly, lazy and shitty were not even in the original change. Pogba was slow and lazy in the first half of last season. Go and read analysis of Pogba around November last year. We all knew his potentials but he was playing poorly.

Silence!!!!! angry angry angry

Mr Elampiro Osamiemie Ugbajahie, firstly let me warn you that in trying to challenge the law and disrupt proceedings you risk being charged with contempt of court, do not make your case more difficult for yourself sir! I will not have any backflip and raumdeuter-ing in my court!!!

A statement is a statement as long as it is on the premise of a subject.

If on Wednesday you say "Funlord is mad" and next two weeks you say "Funlord is sane" ..It doesn't change the fact that you labelled him "Mad".

It is that simple and verifiable.

You called one Paul Pogba a "Lazy player" , yes you did!!!

Or do you mean the evidence provided b4 the court lacks credibility?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 9:38am On Nov 20, 2017
joeace2020:


grin grin Charge and bail lawyer or brown envelope judge

.....be careful cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:42am On Nov 20, 2017
funlord:



This is the absolute truth....they both have degrees in senseless amalanomics and take being wrong when discussing football as some sort of death sentence! I can't believe what I'm reading.... Tufiakwa

I was not wrong and still not wrong.

When Pogba was being negotiated, I asked if he was worth the amount. Lekkie073 said yes that he watches Seria A. I said "okay, I take your words and support the amount".

After first matches, I said Pogba was worth the amount.

Then Pogba started playing very poorly in October, November and December. Each time, Lekkie073 and his cohorts blamed Rooney, that Pogba is number 10, and that Rooney was blocking Pogba from playing his position. Rooney got injured and Pogba flopped at number 10.

Afterwards, the Ekwe Sample said Pogba's best position was left midfield of three-man midfield. He got played there and hardly improved.

All these while, Lekkie073 and his team would put the blame on Rooney and mentioned his 300k/week. That was the genesis of Pogba's price tag being scrutinzed.

With Lekkie073 current misbehaviour, Pogba will be under scrutiny again when he starts playing against the big teams. It's normal when you think you know too much whereas there is nothing in his big head.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:47am On Nov 20, 2017
elrony:


Silence!!!!! angry angry angry

Mr Elampiro Osamiemie Ugbajahie, firstly let me warn you that in trying to challenge the law and disrupt proceedings you risk being charged with contempt of court, do not make your case more difficult for yourself sir! I will not have any backflip and raumdeuter-ing in my court!!!

A statement is a statement as long as it is on the premise of a subject.

If on Wednesday you say "Funlord is mad" and next two weeks you say "Funlord is sane" ..It doesn't change the fact that you labelled him "Mad".

It is that simple and verifiable.

You called one Paul Pogba a "Lazy player" , yes you did!!!

Or do you mean the evidence provided b4 the court lacks credibility?



You no know law, no judgement on a count not on the charge sheet. You can go to court and say a zillion things, the counts on change sheet is what determines which of your statements are relevant.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 9:53am On Nov 20, 2017
elampiro:


You no know law, no judgement on a count not on the charge sheet. You can go to court and say a zillion things, the counts on change sheet is what determines which of your statements are relevant.

One more Raumdeuter-ing and I'll have you bundled out of this court room.

"Shiity" was found to be relevant in both the evidence presented and the further allegations levelled against you.

I'll advise you to make a case for yourself on some grounds you might want to hold on to. It's a fair trial.

Buh as for "shiity player".. it's already called in.

What else do you have to say for yourself sir? angry
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:57am On Nov 20, 2017
elrony:


One more Raumdeuter-ing and I'll have you bundled out of this court room.

"Shiity" was found to be relevant in both the evidence presented and the further allegations levelled against you.

I'll advise you to make a case for yourself on some grounds you might want to hold on to. It's a fair trial.

Buh as for "shiity player".. it's already called in.

What else do you have to say for yourself sir? angry

Evidence is worstless if it doesn't support any count.

Receive education.

Okay, since you guys are pushing it, a player as expensive as Pogba should score goals like Messi and Ronaldo - Paul Scholes.

When he starts scoring even like Suarez and Neymar you guys can come back to this argument. I don vex

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