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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 9:58am On Nov 20, 2017
elampiro:


You no know law. First, match day analysis is not a general statement. Just like I said Ibrahimovic is slow and cant go on vs one with a defender. It doesn't mean he has never done anything like that, it only meant he is not in form or past it. . Similarly, when I say Martial cannot do a long distance run with the ball. There must be assessment of current form. It is different from writing off a player and saying he is a waste of money.

Lastly, lazy and shitty were not even in the original change. Pogba was slow and lazy in the first half of last season. Go and read analysis of Pogba around November last year. We all knew his potentials but he was playing poorly.

wrong, you saying ibrahimovic is slow and can't go one on one with a defender or Martial can't do a long distance run with the ball is a general assessment of the players not just on current form, C'mon now, how can you even say it is based on current form, you didn't include any anything to make it look like you were talking of current form

you sef dey listen to the things you say sometimes

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 10:04am On Nov 20, 2017
elampiro:


Evidence is worstless if it doesn't support any count.

Receive education.

Okay, since you guys are pushing it, a player as expensive as Pogba should score goals like Messi and Ronaldo - Paul Scholes.

When he starts scoring even like Suarez and Neymar you guys can come back to this argument. I don vex


Don't test my tolerance Mr Elampiro Osamiemie Ugbajahie.

At the bolded: is that you making a defense for your cause?...

I hereby call on the plaintiff Mr Lekkie073 of Ikate Elegushi.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:05am On Nov 20, 2017
dopeJemi:


wrong, you saying ibrahimovic is slow and can't go one on one with a defender or Martial can't do a long distance run with the ball is a general assessment of the players not just on current form, C'mon now, how can you even say it is based on current form, you didn't include any anything to make it look like you were talking of current form

you sef dey listen to the things you say sometimes

That was just an example.

Ibrahimovic is not slow, he is just old now. He will go down as one of the best strikers ever. Martial needs to work on his long distance race. He can do it, he scored one counter like that two years ago.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 10:06am On Nov 20, 2017
dopeJemi:


wrong, you saying ibrahimovic is slow and can't go one on one with a defender or Martial can't do a long distance run with the ball is a general assessment of the players not just on current form, C'mon now, how can you even say it is based on current form, you didn't include any anything to make it look like you were talking of current form

you sef dey listen to the things you say sometimes

Glad Mr Elampiro Osamiemie Ugbajahie can get further interpretation from an independent jury cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:09am On Nov 20, 2017
elrony:


Don't test my tolerance Mr Elampiro Osamiemie Ugbajahie.

At the bolded: is that you making a defense for your cause?...

I hereby call on the plaintiff Mr Lekkie073 of Ikate Elegushi.

Mr Irony Ekwe Akwechemheli,

Pogba should play like Neymar, Suarez, Messi and Ronaldo before I praise him. That's the only condition now.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:10am On Nov 20, 2017
elrony:


Glad Mr Elampiro Osamiemie Ugbajahie can get further interpretation from an independent jury cheesy

Two quacks
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 10:18am On Nov 20, 2017
elampiro:


Mr Irony Ekwe Akwechemheli,

Pogba should play like Neymar, Suarez, Messi and Ronaldo before I praise him. That's the only condition now.

Put some respeck on ma name sir, thinks you I attained SA by Raumdeuter-ing cheesy

Mr Elampiro Osamiemie Ugbajahie the gymnast, please note that I am not accusing you sir!.

I am only here to dispatch justice and maintain equity between you and one Mr Lekkie073 of Ikate Elegushi. cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 10:19am On Nov 20, 2017
elampiro:


Two quacks

Elampaaaaaaawwwwaaa! ! ! grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 10:49am On Nov 20, 2017
elampiro:


I was not wrong and still not wrong.

When Pogba was being negotiated, I asked if he was worth the amount. Lekkie073 said yes that he watches Seria A. I said "okay, I take your words and support the amount".
u asked me. Am I a player valuer? Ppl r giving opinions about price and all u can do is to ask for one party's opinion in order to form urs. U go sabi girrafe person work when u dey school o

After first matches, I said Pogba was worth the amount.
who did u 'said' it to

Then Pogba started playing very poorly in October, November and December. Each time, Lekkie073 and his cohorts blamed Rooney, that Pogba is number 10, and that Rooney was blocking Pogba from playing his position. Rooney got injured and Pogba flopped at number 10.
by cohorts I take it to mean >90% of the fans here because when it comes to Rooney, na only u waka come cool


All these while, Lekkie073 and his team would put the blame on Rooney and mentioned his 300k/week. That was the genesis of Pogba's price tag being scrutinzed.
u started scrutnizing d price even before the fee was paid. So the above is a pure lie.

It's normal when you think you know too much whereas there is nothing in my big head.

thank God u can do some self-diagnosis grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:06am On Nov 20, 2017
funlord:



This is the absolute truth....they both have degrees in senseless amalanomics and take being wrong when discussing football as some sort of death sentence! I can't believe what I'm reading.... Tufiakwa

Na me fit dayo, if him de twist, me go de twist. until him go come run
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 11:20am On Nov 20, 2017
It is interesting how a discussion about cutting Lindelof some slack owing to his below-par performance on Saturday turned to what it is at the moment.

Everyone here did slam Pogba last season at one time or the other, Elampiro included. There's no need denying this. He was actually mediocre in a number of matches in months towards the end of the year but the quality he brings to the table was there for all to see. However, this season he's improved much, creating, assisting and scoring goals. Dude's got 6 goals and assists in 5 EPL games.

elampiro:


Pogba should play like Neymar, Suarez, Messi and Ronaldo before I praise him. That's the only condition now.

Messi has 12 goals and 3 assists in 12 league games this season. Neymar has 6 goals, 5 assists in 13 league appearances this season. Suarez has had 5 goals and an assist in 9 La Liga games this season. Ronaldo's own is even worse. All these players are strikers.

There's no need over-criticizing one of your own. It is obvious that Pogba will perform much better this season than last season. Expecting him to score/assist more than strikers surrounded by fantastic team mates is just wrong. Even KevinDB's 3 goals and 6 assists in 12 games can't match Neymar or Messi's stats for the season.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 11:42am On Nov 20, 2017
grin grin grin

Funny Dudes!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mystic1(m): 12:08pm On Nov 20, 2017
Elampiro and claiming the last glory sha.
I remember when it was Martials case. Elampiro claimed to have believed in him from unset whereas screenshot showed uniquegem trying to convince him. No quote me oo

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:43pm On Nov 20, 2017
lekkie073:
u asked me. Am I a player valuer? Ppl r giving opinions about price and all u can do is to ask for one party's opinion in order to form urs. U go sabi girrafe person work when u dey school o
who did u 'said' it to
by cohorts I take it to mean >90% of the fans here because when it comes to Rooney, na only u waka come cool

u started scrutnizing d price even before the fee was paid. So the above is a pure lie.
thank God u can do some self-diagnosis grin

I did not ask you. You quoted me that time. It was a house discussion. Then you defended the price, if I remember well
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:46pm On Nov 20, 2017
Leyqute:
It is interesting how a discussion about cutting Lindelof some slack owing to his below-par performance on Saturday turned to what it is at the moment.

Everyone here did slam Pogba last season at one time or the other, Elampiro included. There's no need denying this. He was actually mediocre in a number of matches in months towards the end of the year but the quality he brings to the table was there for all to see. However, this season he's improved much, creating, assisting and scoring goals. Dude's got 6 goals and assists in 5 EPL games.



Messi has 12 goals and 3 assists in 12 league games this season. Neymar has 6 goals, 5 assists in 13 league appearances this season. Suarez has had 5 goals and an assist in 9 La Liga games this season. Ronaldo's own is even worse. All these players are strikers.

There's no need over-criticizing one of your own. It is obvious that Pogba will perform much better this season than last season. Expecting him to score/assist more than strikers surrounded by fantastic team mates is just wrong. Even KevinDB's 3 goals and 6 assists in 12 games can't match Neymar or Messi's stats for the season.

You didn't mention that I also praised Pogba and said his transfer fee was money well spent.

On goals, how many did Pogba score last season visavis the world class players you listed?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:51pm On Nov 20, 2017
Mystic1:
Elampiro and claiming the last glory sha.
I remember when it was Martials case. Elampiro claimed to have believed in him from unset whereas screenshot showed uniquegem trying to convince him. No quote me oo

You people always believe what you want to believe. My first impression about Martial has never been in question. I can't remember that argument . I think I was the first to report we were buying Martial. I think the debate was centred around who knew about his game, and then someone brought some youtube from which I gave impression.


I won the argument you were talking about but because Coogar drew a conclusion before I dug up my first posts about Martial, you guys joined in that false conclusion.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by joeace2020(m): 1:03pm On Nov 20, 2017
elampiro:


You people always believe what you want to believe. My first impression about Martial has never been in question. I can't remember that argument . I think I was the first to report we were buying Martial. I think the debate was centred around who knew about his game, and then someone brought some youtube from which I gave impression.


I won the argument you were talking about but because Coogar drew a conclusion before I dug up my first posts about Martial, you guys joined in that false conclusion.

And therein lies your problem. It's not about winning an argument, but facing facts and truths. Yes i do believe you rated Pogba highly.. even the screen shots show that but you were also quoted as saying "Pogba is the one being shitty". This you said, was screenshot and shown to all but you vehemently denied ever calling him that. That shocked me to be honest. Something everyone with an eye was seeing. Sometimes you just have to agree to facts wether they demean your "i can't be wrong" persona or not. You as well as many here did indeed criticize Pogba extensively when he was playing poorly. No one holds that against you because we are doing same or worse with Mikitaryan and Lindelof at the moment and someday in the future someone might be digging out our posts when we start calling the "best in the league". Every fan does this, why are you worked up over having done it?

Must you have the last laugh?
Must you win the argument?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:24pm On Nov 20, 2017
joeace2020:


And therein lies your problem. It's not about winning an argument, but facing facts and truths. Yes i do believe you rated Pogba highly.. even the screen shots show that but you were also quoted as saying "Pogba is the one being shitty". This you said, was screenshot and shown to all but you vehemently denied ever calling him that. That shocked me to be honest. Something everyone with an eye was seeing. Sometimes you just have to agree to facts wether they demean your "i can't be wrong" persona or not. You as well as many here did indeed criticize Pogba extensively when he was playing poorly. No one holds that against you because we are doing same or worse with Mikitaryan and Lindelof at the moment and someday in the future someone might be digging out our posts when we start calling the "best in the league". Every fan does this, why are you worked up over having done it?

Must you have the last laugh?
Must you win the argument?

What pains me was that he lied that I said Pogba was waste of money. Something I knew I never said.

So I needed to give him tough time for that bad lie. Let him have a feel of it.

It's not also about winning an argument, it is about fact. When it comes to facts, I am the king.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by joeace2020(m): 1:39pm On Nov 20, 2017
elampiro:


What pains me was that he lied that I said Pogba was waste of money. Something I knew I never said.

So I needed to give him tough time for that bad lie. Let him have a feel of it.

It's not also about winning an argument, it is about fact. When it comes to facts, I am the king .

No wonder you like Trump.. Argument for another day.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by funlord(m): 1:51pm On Nov 20, 2017
Tony Pulis sacked by west brom! It's about time....
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 1:52pm On Nov 20, 2017
elampiro:


You didn't mention that I also praised Pogba and said his transfer fee was money well spent.

On goals, how many did Pogba score last season visavis the world class players you listed?

You've completely missed my point. Pogba wasn't phenomenal last season but he stands a good chance of being a very important player for us this season. That's the reason I compared his stats with Neymar, Suarez and Messi's stats this season.

You don't have to say the only condition for you to praise him is if he starts scoring or assisting goals in every game like Messi or Neymar.

Furthermore, you've been defending Rooney since ages past even when we all know he's been awful. Can you compare Rooney's stats with the world beaters'?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 1:54pm On Nov 20, 2017
funlord:


Tony Pulis sacked by west brom! It's about time....

Raumdeuter, premier league clubs are getting less lenient with their managers. 12 games in, how many sackings, 4? 5?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 2:19pm On Nov 20, 2017
elampiro:

Some guys are still saying Pogba is yet to play against the big 6, so we should be calm and not carried away.
what is the meaning of this one again? grin grin grin na wa oo

In fact wetin exactly you mean? name your "big 6" & back it up with substance?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 2:46pm On Nov 20, 2017
elampiro:


I did not ask you. You quoted me that time. It was a house discussion. Then you defended the price, if I remember well
I defended the price. u keep posting rubbish.
how can I defend d price of a player when am not a valuer.
I merely stated that I am less concerned about the price in as much as he comes good. r u mixing up someone's issue with mine?

either way, u have a reputation which still has not changed.

winning an argument is ur lifelong career. that's where u always like to be king like ur twin brudah from the bundesliga
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 3:05pm On Nov 20, 2017
Plot twist: elamp.iro and raumdeu.ter are actually one single person with two slightly different consciousness.

shocked shocked
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Afz9095(m): 3:13pm On Nov 20, 2017
"I was the strongest player on the team,
despite the fact that I weighed 73kg,
Chelsea had [Michael] Essien and [Michael]
Ballack in midfield. We had Rosicky.If you said as much as ‘how are you’ to him,
he would then be injured for two-and-a-half
months.In the small games, talent can
make the difference, but you can't win with
children at Old Trafford." - Adebayor
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:22pm On Nov 20, 2017
joeace2020:


No wonder you like Trump.. Argument for another day.
So I should like those confused liberals like Obama and Clinton? Cant you see how the economy is booming and religious rights being returned? The days when a Christian will refuse to bake cake for gay wedding and he will be jailed/&fined are over. It is now "do your gay and Satanic worship while I practice my religion".
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:27pm On Nov 20, 2017
Leyqute:


You've completely missed my point. Pogba wasn't phenomenal last season but he stands a good chance of being a very important player for us this season. That's the reason I compared his stats with Neymar, Suarez and Messi's stats this season.

You don't have to say the only condition for you to praise him is if he starts scoring or assisting goals in every game like Messi or Neymar.

Furthermore, you've been defending Rooney since ages past even when we all know he's been awful. Can you compare Rooney's stats with the world beaters'?

Rooney did not coast $90m na.

Rooney was once a world beater himself
How many EPL players have scored 34 goals a season twice during their careers? Scoring goals in English football is very hard.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 3:27pm On Nov 20, 2017
Elampiro comparing oliseh to pogba even before d Frenchman kicked a ball under jose

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:32pm On Nov 20, 2017
SailorXY:
what is the meaning of this one again? grin grin grin na wa oo

In fact wetin exactly you mean? name your "big 6" & back it up with substance?

Someone said this season that Pogba is yet to play against a team from 1st to 10th, that when we beat Spurs, Pogba was not there. I have not checked to verify if this is true but on a rough estimate, it looks true.

Top 6= Manchester United, Manchester City, Chelsea, Tottenham, Liverpool, Arsenal.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:36pm On Nov 20, 2017
Leyqute:


Ramdeuter, premier league clubs are getting less lenient with their managers. 12 games in, how many sackings, 4? 5?

Wait make season end and lets have a count to know. Like last season when concluded EPL let go 6 coaches in the season, Bundesliga let go 9 coaches, La Liga parted ways with 12 coaches, Serie A with 9, French league parted company with 7

WHen I checked 10 longest serving managers in EUrope top leagues I see Stoke City, Bournemouth, Burnley and Arsenal. Meaning EPL took 4 out of 10 slots. Thats enough evidence where they are most lenient with coaches
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 3:37pm On Nov 20, 2017
So u didnt convince u to accept pogbas fee. I just made u see dat he is not in d same league with some average joes like ur kinsman dat u compared him with.

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