@Solite3



If Christ doesn't know, does that not mean the spirit of Christ doesn't know?

Is the spirit of Christ not the same holy spirit ?

Do you now accept nobody knows except the Father, so we can go back to the real issue on why such a person was omitted at Matt 24 vs 36 if its a person like Father, son, angel and everyone ?

solite3:
Jesus is both man and God. If Jesus said he doesn't know the time he was certainly speaking of himself as a man not not as God.

U make zero sense bro

Unless he stopped being a SON when he gets to heaven.

The SON doesn't ,know ... is Jesus a Son in heaven ?

Peacefullove:


ONLY the Father .

Is that hard for you to comprehende ?

The only person to be excluded has been mentioned .

to show that, He makes mention of every other personality that. exist as not knowing .

Nobody knows , FOR EMPHASIS " he continued : not even the angels or son.




You are making things complicated for yourself, . infact am laughing , Is holy spirit no longer a separate person from Father and Son ?

That doesn't have anything to do with this. In this context we are looking at holysoirit as a SEPARATE person from Father and son.

Receive sense, Your person of holyspirit was also call d Spirit of Christ, Yet Christ doesn't Know ... Why ?

u are dull. Did Jesus not say no one knows his new name he didn't even exclude his father. Going by your sensual logic his father didn't know. Since Jesus said no one.



Use your head

Jesus didn't mention the Holy Spirit.
Jesus said no one of the listed category.

'(

Peacefullove:
@Solite3



If Christ doesn't know, does that not mean the spirit of Christ doesn't know?

Is the spirit of Christ not the same holy spirit ?

Do you now accept nobody knows except the Father, so we can go back to the real issue on why such a person was omitted at Matt 24 vs 36 if its a person like Father, son, angel and everyone ?

The holy Spirit knows the mind of God so there is no reason Jesus should mention him.
Jesus said no one (those on earth), the angels, and the son which sums up the list adding the holy Spirit by you is unwarranted.
I have posted sufficient proof from the bible to show that the holy Spirit is God.
Settle down and enlighten yourself with it.

removetheturban:
You can be the decider. What do you think?

of course, I think the number one guys I'll say are in Babylon the great is the watch tower.

how is that?

removetheturban:
Thank you for copying and pasting. I want to be sure that I am not online with a robot.
If the Masoretes inserted the vowels in ADONAI to make up the word Jehovah. The word Adonai has 4 vowels AOIA, where then is the last vowel ' I'?

is 'E' in AOAI?

the initial transliteration was Yehowah. So, where did the A in Adonai get in?

Were the Masoretes in the 12th or 16th century?

One final question to prove that you are human. When did the word "YAHWEH" first appear?

O boy you did not see my reply ? I mentioned it there o.
Yahweh first appeared in 6th century,

Yahowah appeared in the 12th century while Jehovah in the 16th century.
J a consonant added to English in the 16th century. I was not considered a vowel till the 16th century. The whole thing about all these is pronunciation.
The word YHWH wasn't being pronounced. YHWH is Latin. So overtime people substituted different letters to make sounds. The word Jehovah First appeared in the 16th century was even coined by people's your group consider pagans, evil, wicked, worldly and unrighteous.
If you like o quote o, assume o and make deductions the nitty gritty of the matter is that the number one word in your religion has pagan roots in that the people who coined it where pagans and did it by guesswork and assumptions.

Your all knowing Jehovah forgot to keep his divine name in his book in fact he misplaced it and made sure it was Pagans who later found it for watchtower organization to use it in naming their followers in 1935 and use it to corrupt the bible in 1960.

removetheturban:
This man truly needs a help. You claim that the word "Jesus" was already in use before Jehovah. Ok! Prove it.

You said that the word 'Jesus' was possibly used in the 3rd century BCE. Why, then, does it need to be translated?

How come you are talking about 'Yeshua', 'Ἰησοῦς' and 'Iēsous' ?

To you, what language is 'Jesus'?

I'm exhausted. Your case needs referral.

You need bigger help. A name you adore so much was wrote in the 16th century by pagans who guessed and assumed. Jesus name and pronunciation was in the Bible since. It was when letter j was coined that only spelling changed. Jehovah pronunciation and spelling were unknown from the beginning in the 16th century spelling and pronunciation became Jehovah.

All your explanation won't change the the fact that watchtower glorifies a name that was invented by pagans people watchtower considers wicked, worldly, unrighteous and evil. People that watchtower says that that same Jehovah will slaughter.

Your religion is a big joke. I know you will soon say is Rutherford that originally coined the name.

removetheturban:
just a reminder: read up and answer the multiple questions that I asked you. this message is for someone else. I do not copy stuff from jw.org.
I study stuff. It is for personal consumption before others. I cannot share what I haven't consumed.

Pls answer my questions

Do you need to copy? When they in and day out you are constantly reminded of your beliefs in jw.org? Your beliefs, doctrines, assumptions, questions gotten from assumptions and answers to these questions are all written in jw.org.

removetheturban:
Is this man alright?
You are telling us that a manuscript was in Greek, and that manuscript was translated into English. Then, are you asking us to look for the translated word in the original language? Why was it translated in the first place?

Come and beat me. The Greek manuscripts don't contain the greek word for Jehovah. Only watchtower bible has Jehovah 237 times in the new testament where it is never seen.
The pagan sources that they quote as their backing don't even have that number of Jehovah written in them and they are not proven facts. Your bible contains spurious insertion.

Your religion is a big joke

removetheturban:
You are a Catholic. I can understand why you hate the JW. But Jehovah is a name that the Pope endorsed. All the Catholic clergies endorsed the name and it in on record. Were we in the 15th 0r 16th century, the council of the Inquisition would have had your body undergo a gruesome end.
I put some pictures for you to enjoy. You can deal with your doctrine before the JW. You have attempted so hard to denigrate the JW but it seems futile so far. You are not even solid in your argument. Take away the blame game or insults, you are literally void. Spiralling and circumventing.

Buhaha. Because the chief Babylon the great endorses the name Jehovah then watchtower follows suit.
So the watchtower organization now copies Babylon the great. First of all a pagan, trinitarian, worldly, wicked, unrighteous, evil person invented your number one name and also the leader of the chief Babylon the great endorses the name so you want to copy them.

Why do you like Babylon the great so much?
You even lift the name Babylon the the great invented in high esteem

removetheturban:
Okay. On the other hand, why did you act as if you did not see my questions?

I will copy and paste them again for you.

At Jesus baptism when the Holy Spirit came down from heaven in the form of a dove, did it come as the holy spirit or did it come in flesh thereby leaving its godliness in heaven?

You have asked your question based on assumption again. Holy spirit descended in the form of a dove. The bible never says when the holy spirit came down in flesh it left its godliness in heaven so I can't answer that. The bible The holy spirit descended in the form of a dove and said this is my son in whom I am well pleased. That's what the bible said.

The holy spirit was sent by Jesus from God to the earth, since then has it returned? If not where is it today? It was seen as fire by the disciples of Jesus. It came as a dove upon Jesus. It came as burning fire to Moses. Why did the Bible ask us to pray for the father to give us holy spirit?

I can't go beyond what is written in the Bible. Me I know you will assume and ask questions from those your assumptions. Me I can't assume.
The bible did not say whether the holy spirit returned or did not return. What I know is that Jesus said he will send the holy spirit to teach, guide,protect and comfort his followers. I don't know if God has sent all his spirit or has some left or told the spirit to return to heaven. I have no idea of this because the bible was silent on the issue. I can't assume what I have never seen in the Bible. I ain't watchtower.

In your doctrinal depiction of the holy spirit etched on your church walls and used in your books, he has the structure of a man and the face of a man. Did the Bible ever describe the holy spirit that way?

Since watchtower has described the holy spirit etched on our church walls and used in our books they should keep imagining it. But as for me I have no idea of what you are talking about. Architect remove the turban I hail the.

Did anyone ever see the face of the father? If not, why did you design it as the face of a man?

What are you talking about? Hmmm are you alright? OK since you have become the architect of our church walls and publisher of the books. Tell me what other things did you people design?

And, what is your reason?

Ubenedictus:
of course, I think the number one guys I'll say are in Babylon the great is the watch tower.

how is that?

Since you know that I am all-assuming, why do you keep stalking me?

Hairyrapunzel:


You have asked your question based on assumption again. Holy spirit descended in the form of a dove. The bible never says when the holy spirit came down in flesh it left its godliness in heaven so I can't answer that. The bible The holy spirit descended in the form of a dove and said this is my son in whom I am well pleased. That's what the bible said.




I can't go beyond what is written in the Bible. Me I know you will assume and ask questions from those your assumptions. Me I can't assume.
The bible did not say whether the holy spirit returned or did not return. What I know is that Jesus said he will send the holy spirit to teach, guide,protect and comfort his followers. I don't know if God has sent all his spirit or has some left or told the spirit to return to heaven. I have no idea of this because the bible was silent on the issue. I can't assume what I have never seen in the Bible. I ain't watchtower.

Since watchtower has described the holy spirit etched on our church walls and used in our books they should keep imagining it. But as for me I have no idea of what you are talking about. Architect remove the turban I hail the.



What are you talking about? Hmmm are you alright? OK since you have become the architect of our church walls and publisher of the books. Tell me what other things did you people design?

removetheturban:
Since you know that I am all-assuming, why do you keep stalking me?

Stop spreading lies and saying its biblical.

removetheturban:
And, what is your reason?

Because you called his church Babylon the great. Don't feel pained when they call yours Babylon the great

I never said that I was pained. I am open to 'reasoning'. I will not chastise you if you say that. Simply table your reasons and we will consider them. So, reason out stuff in line with that scripture.

I know that the centre of your vendetta against the JW is a (re)vengeful. You have been tortured by some write-ups that you just cannot see us thrive. You vilify us at every (given) opportunity.

My advice to you is for you to compose yourself and be objective. It makes you appear desperate when you ubiquitously throw insults and denigrating comments consecutively. To an average mind, two wrongs cannot right a wrong.

Hairyrapunzel:

Because you called his church Babylon the great. Don't feel pained when they call yours Babylon the great

Is that why you are stalking me?

Hairyrapunzel:

Stop spreading lies and saying its biblical.

solite3:
u are dull. Did Jesus not say no one knows his new name he didn't even exclude his father. Going by your sensual logic his father didn't know. Since Jesus said no one.



Use your head

Nope, You are the dull one since the same verse said he has a name which was written . logic Demand that someone wrote the name .
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Who wrote the name ? that should Give a clue of who should be excluded .

Jesus didn't mention the Holy Spirit.
Jesus said no one of the listed category.

Because holy spirit is not even in the category of persons ?

solite3:
u are dull. Did Jesus not say no one knows his new name he didn't even exclude his father. Going by your sensual logic his father didn't know. Since Jesus said no one.



Use your head

Jesus didn't mention the Holy Spirit.
Jesus said no one of the listed category.

u r wasting ur energy arguing with dat guy. His logic will bore you.. He will systematically avoid ur questions and expect u answer his yes or no questions..

solite3:
'(
The holy Spirit knows the mind of God so there is no reason Jesus should mention him.

Didn't the Son also know the mind of God ?

if he is God ?

Jesus said no one (those on earth), the angels, and the son which sums up the list adding the holy Spirit by you is unwarranted.
I have posted sufficient proof from the bible to show that the holy Spirit is God.
Settle down and enlighten yourself with it.

Guy, you are contradicting your bible

No one knows the Father like the son ... Was Jesus telling lies ? Matt 11 vs 27 . are you saying the third person of your trinity is closer to God than the second person ?



Did the son knows the mind of God ? cc: Removetheturban ... Pay attention to this question and its reply .

Peacefullove:
@Solite3




If Christ doesn't know, does that not mean the spirit of Christ doesn't know?


Is the spirit of Christ not the same holy spirit ?

Do you now accept nobody knows except the Father, so we can go back to the real issue on why such a person was omitted at Matt 24 vs 36 if its a person like Father, son, angel and everyone ?

Spot on !

Also ask him if the Son is Almighty God, why didn't he know the mind of God ?

solite3:
'(
The holy Spirit knows the mind of God so there is no reason Jesus should mention him.
Jesus said no one (those on earth), the angels, and the son which sums up the list adding the holy Spirit by you is unwarranted.
I have posted sufficient proof from the bible to show that the holy Spirit is God.
Settle down and enlighten yourself with it.

Sir, you are making it seem like trinitarians made a mistake placing Jesus as second person of trinity because With this your post , You are almost telling us there is another person much closer to the Father than Christ .

For me, I very much believe in this context Jesus made it clear that no other person other than the Father knows the day or hour is what Jesus meant .

Your trying to argue this with revelation is just plain unsound, Revelation 1:1 said everything revealed in revelation came from the Father and God of Jesus Christ .

salvation101:
i am very aware that there are ppl like u on dis forum.. Victims of broken homes and failed parenting. U r on assignment for ur Master d devil nd i see u av been stalking me ever since i created a thread to debunk ur daddy freeze lies (going tru ur thread). Aving u around is a reminder dat ur master (d devil) is so pained dat he has attached one of his rodents to follow me around, i remain resolute and undeterred. Go nd tell d devil he ain't see nothing yet. All tye blasphemous words coming out from ur mouth is just a proof dat the same spirit of antichrist in freeze is in you Rev 13:1..
"Satan don fall for gutter match am match am"

You snitched on me?
How the prophecy being fulfilled. "At the dawn of the day she shall snitch, tho it tarry, it shall tarry a little while.
In between her lips your head shall lay, her humor thereof shall make it wet. Like the pollen the pistil receive, the seed shall in the little garden be nurtured".

removetheturban:
Do we have physical and spiritual facts?
Is 'fact' relative?

By experience, I have learnt how not to argue with a JW whose mind has been programmed through Watchtower literature, who rather argues the exterior and immateriality than the significance.

salvation101:
yep i did.. Nd dey would av definitely investigated as his last post was hidded

You Snitched.

Nevertheless ur temple is mine.

I only asked a question and I did not argue with you. I am not here for that either. Trust me, we can have a decent chat without arguing. I bet you know the difference between a conversation and an argument. So, can you answer me? Do we have physical and spiritual facts?
Is 'fact' relative?

unbitchable:
By experience, I have learnt how not to argue with a JW whose mind has been programmed through Watchtower literature, who rather argues the exterior and immateriality than the significance.

The gentleman is choking already. He knows that he got himself in a deadlock. The truth has power. Its tenacity endures the longest

Peacefullove:



Didn't the Son also know the mind of God ?

if he is God ?



Guy, you are contradicting your bible

No one knows the Father like the son ... Was Jesus telling lies ? Matt 11 vs 27 . are you saying the third person of your trinity is closer to God than the second person ?



Did the son knows the mind of God ? cc: Removetheturban ... Pay attention to this question and its reply .

removetheturban:
I only asked a question and I did not argue with you. I am not here for that either. Trust me, we can have a decent chat without arguing. I bet you know the difference between a conversation and an argument. So, can you answer me? Do we have physical and spiritual facts?
Is 'fact' relative?

You that said you where reasoning from the bible and asked me questions that were not bible based and had no answers in the Bible and when I called you out you said I was insulting you. Jws always forming understanding but when you call their assumptions out they start crying persecution.

How did you call me out?
You are quoting my response to someone else.

Do you believe in the almighty God?

Hairyrapunzel:


You that said you where reasoning from the bible and asked me questions that were not bible based and had no answers in the Bible and when I called you out you said I was insulting you. Jws always forming understanding but when you call their assumptions out they start crying persecution.

removetheturban:
How did you call me out?
You are quoting my response to someone else.

Do you believe in the almighty God?

Yes I do

What evinces his existence to you?

Hairyrapunzel:

Yes I do

removetheturban:
What evinces his existence to you?

Question and answer