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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by JoseJonn(f): 11:36pm On Feb 17, 2018
Twallace God bless you. Please and please you people should leave Frank alone oo that guy has done a lot if not for you guys talking anyhow for me. That's how jyunwa's was treated too. He was advising you...be humble !Please i don't want that! If these ppl don't contribute u won't force them! Frank, jyunwa, wealth 360 ,chucks and other angels have been of help here. Pls and pls Frank don't mind them! They will get trv now and running away. Pls I don't like it! Thnku. God bless u all! Good night

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by Frankrobbn1: 11:38pm On Feb 17, 2018
shaddy1k:


Hello Seniors, please I wll like to find out if ones CV info is kept by the embassy when the person is refused student visa on a number of reasons including a persons employment situation. I want to know if they keep to compare with a new CV w
in case the applicant applies again. Thank you.

Hello shaddy1k,

If i understand your question clearly Sir, you are asking if cic keeps the record of past employment histories and documents like employment letters, CV's etc and whenever an applicant reapplies wether they go cross check the previous documents/files to be sure both CV's and letters matches.

My answer is (NO THEY DON'T) but it's always good to stand with what you have started, if your last application you provided proof of employment and letters supporting it, it's advisable you continue with it and don't alter anything.
You can decide to reedit your letters and CV's there is no harm in that, but don't change the employment history you stated on your previous application.

I hope this answers your question.

Good luck!

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by Frankrobbn1: 12:00am On Feb 18, 2018
JoseJonn:
Twallace God bless you. Please and please you people should leave Frank alone oo that guy has done a lot if not for you guys talking anyhow for me. That's how jyunwa's was treated too. He was advising you...be humble !Please i don't want that! If these ppl don't contribute u won't force them! Frank, jyunwa, wealth 360 ,chucks and other angels have been of help here. Pls and pls Frank don't mind them! They will get trv now and running away. Pls I don't like it! Thnku. God bless u all! Good night

Your benevolent words melts the heart of this great forum. I appreciate your kind gesture. Thank you Ma!

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by sleekysoft(m): 5:02am On Feb 18, 2018
I wanted to reply that dudes comment but will go out to cuss or used illicit words.. this is why we don't progress as a country. someone takes out his own time to help look for solutions to issues and the next thing is to throw insults, shades and bants.. we all bound to make mistakes and when we do correct in love and understand is the solution... FRankrobbn,Jyunwa, wealth360, and the gurus have help so many TRVs applicants than the president has helped them. Bless you Bros..Never stop doing what you love doing your reward is with the Lord.. bless you bountifully

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by IstandWitBuhari: 7:43am On Feb 18, 2018
@Yasmine04 please, did lake head University request for your official transcripts before offering you admission or did they assess your application using your unofficial transcripts and after offering you admission before registering you submitted your official transcripts ?
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by justwise(m): 7:56am On Feb 18, 2018
Frankrobbn1:


Hello shaddy1k,

If i understand your question clearly Sir, you are asking if cic keeps the record of past employment histories and documents like employment letters, CV's etc and whenever an applicant reapplies wether they go cross check the previous documents/files to be sure both CV's and letters matches.

My answer is (NO THEY DON'T) but it's always good to stand with what you have started, if your last application you provided proof of employment and letters supporting it, it's advisable you continue with it and don't alter anything.
You can decide to reedit your letters and CV's there is no harm in that, but don't change the employment history you stated on your previous application.

I hope this answers your question.

Good luck!

Are you sure about this? Why would they not keep those documents?

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by Moley22(m): 8:03am On Feb 18, 2018
justwise:


Are you sure about this? Why would they not keep those documents?
There’s a probability that they are been kept for record purposes but only for a short period of time and so one has to be plain and honest or rather make corrections to previous histories and not deny.

NB: just my assumption.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by gbemiigbal: 10:27am On Feb 18, 2018
Frankrobbn1:

What if one didn’t get a 2 year and above study program. I already have letter of offer for a year course and just praying and praying that my Masters letter of offer will come. What if I don’t have the Masters admission.
Hello adexyz91,
On behalf of the forum we say we are deeply sorry about the outcome of your application.

Sir/Ma,
Your GCMS note is clearly pointing at your home ties, the job offer you presented. The visa officer is not satisfied that such job offer will compell your return back home, your family too they are not satisfied your family can compel your return back home, you have not convinced the visa officer the benefits of studying such program in Canada rather than Nigeria, there are limited proof of property and assets which can compel your return back home.

Below listed are what you can do to tackle the concerns of the visa officer :

1-) Start by drafting a wonderful SOP/LOE clearly stating why such course deserves to be taken in Canada rather than Nigeria.
2-) The benefits of such course after completion of studies in Canada.... Go as far as convincing the visa officer that the chances of securing a job in Nigeria is very high after studies in Canada.
3-) Let them know you're a genuine student and you're applying in good faith(strictly for studies and nothing else) and you will be coming back after your studies in Canada.
4-) Please the job offer you included do away with it in your next application( As the Visa officer said that the employment evidence does not constitute a tie to your home country)
5-) Let them know you're not using study permit as means to facilitate entry into Canada, by letting them know that there are better living/job opportunities here in Nigeria after your studies in canada(proof them wrong that Nigeria is not a troubled Nation).... You and I know say na troubled nation sha grin
6-) In your next application try as much as possible to include assests/properties in your name okay, it will go a long way in addressing personal assests raised by the Visa officer.
7-) Add each and every members of your family birth certificates (All your siblings) in next your application.
8-) Lastly, change your course to a 2 years and above program, that is reasonable to your previous studies/job role.

If you do the above 8 mentioned. Your next application will be a success.

All the best!
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by Twallace: 10:31am On Feb 18, 2018
shaddy1k:


Hello Seniors, please I wll like to find out if ones CV info is kept by the embassy when the person is refused student visa on a number of reasons including a persons employment situation. I want to know if they keep to compare with a new CV w
in case the applicant applies again. Thank you.

In this age of digital revolution, it will be highly unlikely for embassy not to save any information you submitted on cloud. Even the so-called manual application will still be scanned and save on cloud to make it easily accessible and also to save space.

However , no one here can tell you if VOs compare the files you submitted against the older ones. Only VOs have that information and I'm not sure if any of us here is VO. I doubt he will divulge that info even if he is here.

The only way to be safe even in court is to stick to your original story. I guess that rule also applies in visa application.

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by Frankrobbn1: 11:49am On Feb 18, 2018
justwise:


Are you sure about this? Why would they not keep those documents?

Boss Justwise!

Yes I don't think they cross checks previous documents and letters. The only thing I know the visa officer does is go directly to Global Case Management System (GCMS) file and cross check the previous refusal grounds and Notes made by the previous visa officer. Each application is treated afresh and are accompanied with new application fees. The only details they keep/store/save on their portfolio is the details on the IMM study permit forms and not previous letters. So I don't see anything bad if the applicant decides to reedit or add valuable information he missed in his previous application.

Come to think of it, haven't you thought about this:
Why is it that some applicants on their first application, they use a Sponspor and claim its their maternal/paternal uncle etc... and got refused. Then, in the second application the applicant decides to change sponspor and use another person with different name from the previous one and still claim that the sponspor is maternal/paternal. At the end of everything, they get their visa approved. If they really go through letters, such application was supposed to be charged for MISREPRESENTATION, but it wasn't. There are large volume of applications and a Visa officer won't stress him/her self going through previous letters.(It's not done).

My advise to the applicant is that you don't change/alter the employment history stated on the previous IMM forms, but can go ahead to change/reedit/add their letters and CV's using the same EMPLOYMENT HISTORY there is no harm in that.

This is my intake Sir, Any valuable opinion will be appreciated.

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by Frankrobbn1: 12:42pm On Feb 18, 2018
gbemiigbal

Chances are slim but not impossible. Are you going for MSc or PGD. If PGD it takes by the grace of God. Provide a rational explanation to why you are going for a year program in Canada. Is there any academic progression for your intended program. Explain this to the Visa officer on your SOP.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by justwise(m): 12:46pm On Feb 18, 2018
Frankrobbn1:


Boss Justwise!

Yes I don't think they cross checks previous documents and letters. The only thing I know the visa officer do is go directly to Global Case Management System (GCMS) file and cross check the previous refusal grounds and Notes made by the previous visa officer. Each application is treated afresh and are accompanied with new application fees. The only details they keep/store/save on their portfolio is the details on the IMM study permit forms and not previous letters. So I don't see anything bad if the applicant decides to reedit or add valuable information he missed in his previous application.

Come to think of it, haven't you thought about this:
Why is it that some applicants on their first application, they use a Sponspor and claim its their maternal/paternal uncle etc... and got refused. Then, in the second application the applicant decides to change sponspor and use another person with different name from the previous one and still claim that the sponspor is maternal/paternal. At the end of everything, they get their visa approved. If they really go through letters, such application was supposed to be charged for MISREPRESENTATION, but it wasn't. There are large volume of applications and a Visa officer won't stress him/her self going through previous letters.(It's not done).

My advise to the applicant is that you don't change/alter the employment history stated on the previous IMM forms, but can go ahead to change/reedit/add their letters using the same EMPLOYMENT HISTORY there is no harm in that.

This is my intake Sir, Any valuable opinion will be appreciated.

You did not answer the core of my question.. which is: why do you think that embassy will not keep an applicant’s supporting documents submitted previously? Your answer to his question was no that embassy will not keep previous CV and employment letter submitted previously.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by sogima(f): 12:54pm On Feb 18, 2018
mcobex:
The schools in Canada only give you offer letter(admission letter) and that's what you will submit(with other documents requested by cic). No interview done (except in some special cases), just take your documents to vfs office(Lagos or Abuja) to apply or do it online then you will be asked to go for your biometric at any of the two vfs offices in Nigeria.

Thanks much
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by bbclue(f): 1:25pm On Feb 18, 2018
Frankrobbn1:


Boss Justwise!

Yes I don't think they cross checks previous documents and letters. The only thing I know the visa officer does is go directly to Global Case Management System (GCMS) file and cross check the previous refusal grounds and Notes made by the previous visa officer. Each application is treated afresh and are accompanied with new application fees. The only details they keep/store/save on their portfolio is the details on the IMM study permit forms and not previous letters. So I don't see anything bad if the applicant decides to reedit or add valuable information he missed in his previous application.

Come to think of it, haven't you thought about this:
Why is it that some applicants on their first application, they use a Sponspor and claim its their maternal/paternal uncle etc... and got refused. Then, in the second application the applicant decides to change sponspor and use another person with different name from the previous one and still claim that the sponspor is maternal/paternal. At the end of everything, they get their visa approved. If they really go through letters, such application was supposed to be charged for MISREPRESENTATION, but it wasn't. There are large volume of applications and a Visa officer won't stress him/her self going through previous letters.(It's not done).

My advise to the applicant is that you don't change/alter the employment history stated on the previous IMM forms, but can go ahead to change/reedit/add their letters and CV's using the same EMPLOYMENT HISTORY there is no harm in that.

This is my intake Sir, Any valuable opinion will be appreciated.


To me am sure cic keep previous documents...submitted...you can Add some information that was not in the previous info in the new information you which to submit

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by Razzo: 2:29pm On Feb 18, 2018
Please house I have been trying to pay $100 application fee with my UBA atm card (MasterCard) and it’s telling me transaction declined. Is there any other way to pay?
Please I urgently need your advice!
Tnx
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by IstandWitBuhari: 2:30pm On Feb 18, 2018
mcobex:
PTDF still send Nigerians to Canada, a guy got his' last year and has started school since September 2017.

Thanks Boss for this information, please Sir, I received a half tuition waiver for PhD studies from my Supervisor in Canada. Now, I applied for Ptdf scholarship but it seems this years ptdf scholarship is restricted to China, Germany, France.

My dream Country is Canada and I already have a supervisor whom I have been in constant communication with for 6months now. My admission letter will be out soon by the grace of God.

Please what do you suggest I do, is it possible to use my half tuition waived Admission letter to my advantage to secure the Ptdf scholarship and still go to Canada?
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by shaddy1k: 2:36pm On Feb 18, 2018
[quote author=Frankrobbn1 post=65156014]

Hello shaddy1k,

If i understand your question clearly Sir, you are asking if cic keeps the record of past employment histories and documents like employment letters, CV's etc and whenever an applicant reapplies wether they go cross check the previous documents/files to be sure both CV's and letters matches.

My answer is (NO THEY DON'T) but it's always good to stand with what you have started, if your last application you provided proof of employment and letters supporting it, it's advisable you continue with it and don't alter anything.
You can decide to reedit your letters and CV's there is no harm in that, but don't change the employment history you stated on your previous application.

Great, thank you all Sirs, for your responses.
Please to my main question, I was refused student Visa to Canada in December.

Docs presented:
Application forms
CV
Sponser letter and affidavit
sponser bank statement
Medicals
passport

I was refused on several counts but main reason was that I will not leave after studies based on
1 travel history
2 family ties in canada and home country
3 purpose of visit
4 based on personal assets and financial status
5 based on employment situation

My Profile:
I am 28 with no property in my name or families name. Honestly my work does not earn anything better (a study abroad company) and trusting God to have gotten another one by next month. I got admission to Windsor for Masters in Criminology program with only living expenses to be paid through TAship and also got Memorial (Mphil program) without any funding, I therefore decided to apply with Memorial for January entry so I could probably use some little savings and families support to pay first year fees and work the rest out when I get in, obviously through part time work. My family is not that in good standing and therefore I struggled to get a distant uncle at the last hour who could only provide a 3 months bank statement at just slightly above required money.

Now: I have applied to 2 USA schools and TAship for same Criminology program which when succesful, I could be lucky to get both tuition and stipend. But since Canada appears to be the number one preference I am thinking of reapplying for September in the next couple of months for the Windsor offer and forget the USA offer no matter the outcome. However my main problem here as can be seen is how to turn my REFUSAL around as well as the best option COUNTRY to direct my next application to.
Judging by my bio presented and the huge problem of task before me, I will be very grateful if you Sirs are able to personally look into the cases of my refusal one after the other vis a vis my profile and graciously advice me on how to tackle each of them as well as advice on how best to direct my next student visa application. I thank you all in advance>
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by Josh1996: 2:38pm On Feb 18, 2018
PLEASE is there any implications on getting a visa for someone who is applying for an M.ENG program
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by Frankrobbn1: 2:40pm On Feb 18, 2018
justwise:


You did not answer the core of my question.. which is: why do you think that embassy will not keep an applicant’s supporting documents submitted previously? Your answer to his question was no that embassy will not keep previous CV and employment letter submitted previously.



Boss Justwise!
They will have records/documents of the previous application, but they don't cross check it to compare with the documents of the new application. A new application is treated based on the evidence provided.

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by Frankrobbn1: 2:42pm On Feb 18, 2018
bbclue:



To me am sure cic keep previous documents...submitted...you can Add some information that was not in the previous info in the new information you which to submit

That's what I am saying. They don't compare the previous documents to the new application. So the applicant in question is free to edit his CV's and letters there is no harm in that.

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by Frankrobbn1: 2:47pm On Feb 18, 2018
Josh1996:
PLEASE is there any implications on getting a visa for someone who is applying for an M.ENG program

Implications in what way Sir? I don't understand.
If you should package your application tightly, I don't see any problem.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by justwise(m): 2:48pm On Feb 18, 2018
Frankrobbn1:


Boss Justwise!
They will have records/documents of the previous application, but they don't cross check it to compare with the documents of the new application. A new application is treated based on the evidence provided.

Why would they not do that?
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by IstandWitBuhari: 2:57pm On Feb 18, 2018
jnyuwa02:


Why annoyed over someone's application bro? You can give an advice and it's up to people to do their thing. One year programs is not automatic denial if you show and do the needful. There are some masters program that are only one year.

Thanks Boss for this information, please Sir, I received a half tuition waiver for PhD studies from my Supervisor in Canada. Now, I applied for Ptdf scholarship but it seems this years ptdf scholarship is restricted to China, Germany, France.
My dream Country is Canada and I already have a supervisor whom I have been in constant communication with for 6months now. My admission letter will be out soon by the grace of God.
Please what do you suggest I do, is it possible to use my half tuition waived Admission letter to my advantage to secure the Ptdf scholarship and still go to Canada?
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by adexyz91(m): 3:19pm On Feb 18, 2018
Thanks Frankrobbn for stating out how to tackle the reasons in my GCMS. The truth is I don't have any property in my name and my present job is no way related to my education or intended study. What are my chances in my next application please as that's the only issue I think I have? I deferred my admission to fall 2018. Please I need contribution from all... Thanks embarassedquote author=gbemiigbal post=65162950][/quote]
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by myelims: 3:25pm On Feb 18, 2018
IstandWitBuhari:


Thanks Boss for this information, please Sir, I received a half tuition waiver for PhD studies from my Supervisor in Canada. Now, I applied for Ptdf scholarship but it seems this years ptdf scholarship is restricted to China, Germany, France.
My dream Country is Canada and I already have a supervisor whom I have been in constant communication with for 6months now. My admission letter will be out soon by the grace of God.
Please what do you suggest I do, is it possible to use my half tuition waived Admission letter to my advantage to secure the Ptdf scholarship and still go to Canada?



The schorlaship each year is STRICTLY for the SELECTED countries. I advice you try to apply to another school in CANADA, preferably a school with full funding and also apply to the countries SELECTED for PTDF this year.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by Josh1996: 3:27pm On Feb 18, 2018
I was seeing something about 1yr programs not been given visas. That's why am asking.
I just recently finished uni and intend applying asap while using NYSC as home ties



Frankrobbn1:


Implications in what way Sir? I don't understand.
If you should package your application tightly, I don't see any problem.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by Frankrobbn1: 3:49pm On Feb 18, 2018
justwise:

Why would they not do that?

They don't, because there are multitudes of applications to review. Perhaps, I have used a case scenario where an applicant lied abt their previous sponspor (using Maternal, paternal, Nephew etc... as sponsor) and on the new application the applicant decides to change sponspor to someone else with different name and got approved.

Well, I'll still make more research regarding this.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by gbemiigbal: 3:50pm On Feb 18, 2018
Frankrobbn1:
gbemiigbal

Chances are slim but not impossible. Are you going for MSc or PGD. If PGD it takes by the grace of God. Provide a rational explanation to why you are going for a year program in Canada. Is there any academic progression for your intended program. Explain this to the Visa officer on your SOP.

Thanks Frankrobbyn. I have applied for MA, my application is in process but don not have a supervisor. I have emailed every available professor in that department no one is responding. Also I have a letter of offer in Project Managmemt (PDG) already from UniWinnipeg. I work as a project management assistsnt in one of the big NGOs in Nigeria. Am just thinking that if the letter of offer for Ma doesn’t come can I go ahead with the PDG. My intention is to go for a Masters of PHD after the pdg program. Thanks
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by Frankrobbn1: 4:00pm On Feb 18, 2018
gbemiigbal:


Thanks Frankrobbyn. I have applied for MA, my application is in process but don not have a supervisor. I have emailed every available professor in that department no one is responding. Also I have a letter of offer in Project Managmemt (PDG) already from UniWinnipeg. I work as a project management assistsnt in one of the big NGOs in Nigeria. Am just thinking that if the letter of offer for Ma doesn’t come can I go ahead with the PDG. My intention is to go for a Masters of PHD after the pdg program. Thanks

gbemiigbal,

You have to be excerise patience okay, most of these supervisors don't like applicant bombarding them with mails upon mails.
Great! You have gotten acceptance from Uwinnipeg, and there is a career progression. Please don't do the mistake of letting the visa officer know that you're using this PGD as a pathway to your masters in Canada. They will tag you as not a genuine student that will over stay his visa in Canada.

Was your CGPA up to the minimum requirement for Canadian universities? (2.1). If your CGPA is okay, please i advise you stick for a Masters program than a PGD.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by Frankrobbn1: 4:10pm On Feb 18, 2018
Josh1996:
I was seeing something about 1yr programs not been given visas. That's why am asking.
I just recently finished uni and intend applying asap while using NYSC as home ties




Josh1996,

Don't misinterpret it okay. On this forum, I have seen several 1 year program applicants getting their visa. But ever since this year, the Visa officers have this mindset that most applicants applying with a 1 year program is using study permit as a means to facilitate entry into Canada.
So therefore, for such application to scale through you need to provide a rational explanation to why you are going for a year program in Canada, that's where length of stay in Canada comes into questioning. Thus, to jump all this hurdles of providing a convincing SOP, it's better you get a 2 years program preferably.

Hope is understood.....
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by mcobex: 4:27pm On Feb 18, 2018
Cc: Shaddy1k , cic has all the time in the world to check your previous profile and compare it with the present one, in fact they will check it. There's a possibility you might have changed your place of work or added any skill or done any training since your last application, so you can add those new things on your cv but you CAN'T remove whatever you might have written before. So the only thing you can do is add to your cv but you can't remove anything.

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 13 by Frankrobbn1: 4:45pm On Feb 18, 2018
adexyz91:
Thanks Frankrobbn for stating out how to tackle the reasons in my GCMS. The truth is I don't have any property in my name and my present job is no way related to my education or intended study. What are my chances in my next application please as that's the only issue I think I have? I deferred my admission to fall 2018. Please I need contribution from all... Thanks :-

adexyz91,
The BOLD is the problem with your previous application, most especially the second.
Try as much as possible to get a 2 years program that is reasonable to your previous and intended program/job role it will go a long way in tackling the concerns of the visa officer. Also, try and establish strong ties to your country, you mustn't have assest before your application will be approved. Add the birth certificates of your siblings and also show more interest of coming back after your studies.

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