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Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by OkCornel(m): 1:22pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
Please permit me to add this contradiction... I'm not one to take sides...I only pitch my tent with the Truth... Acts 9 v 4-7 4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying to him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? 5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is [d]hard for thee to kick against pricks. 6 He then both trembling and astonied, said, Lord, what wilt thou that I do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou shalt do. 7 The men also which journeyed with him, stood amazed, hearing his voice, but seeing no man. Acts 22 v 7-9 7 So I fell unto the earth, and heard a voice, saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? 8 Then I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said to me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest. 9 Moreover they that were with me, saw indeed a light and were afraid: but they heard not the voice of him that spake unto me. This is my problem with clerical errors leading up to the English Bible as we know today. I quoted this from 1599 Geneva translation... Chapter 9 v 7 states one thing, Chapter 22 v 9 states another thing....or perhaps I'm getting it wrong... 1 Like |
Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by Humanistme: 1:22pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
butterflyl1on: of course in your delusions they are not contradictions. oya answer this bible quiz Who was the father of Joseph, husband of Mary? (a)Jacob (b)Heli (c) butterflyl1on (d)his parents were gay so he had two dads (e)all of the above clues to the answer below Mathew 1:16 16and Jacob the father of s Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom Jesus was born, who is called Christ. 17 So all the generations from Abraham Luke 3:23 New International Version (NIV) Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry. He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph, Luke 3:23 in all English translations 23 the son of Heli, 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by Humanistme: 1:25pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
butterflyl1on: of course in your delusions they are not contradictions. oya answer this bible quiz Who was the father of Joseph, husband of Mary? (a)Jacob (b)Heli (c) butterflyl1on (d)his parents were gay so he had two dads (e)all of the above clues to the answer below Mathew 1:16 16and Jacob the father of s Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom Jesus was born, who is called Christ. 17 So all the generations from Abraham Luke 3:23 New International Version (NIV) Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry. He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph, the son of Heli, |
Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by OkCornel(m): 1:26pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
Humanistme: Have you considered if Jacob and Heli are two different names for one and the same person? I'm sure you've got more than one name at the very least... 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by Humanistme: 1:28pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
OkCornel: is it your brain or the spirit of truth that told you this.? 4 Likes |
Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by danvon(m): 1:36pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
Humanistme:That was the genealogy of Mary |
Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by Humanistme: 1:36pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
Aashik: mega contradiction oya emmanystone and butterflyl1on come and wiggle out of this one |
Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by Humanistme: 1:40pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
danvon: what verse? where is your scriptural back up |
Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by Deicide: 1:41pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
OkCornel:You are so on point! i just love this reply 1 Like |
Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by OkCornel(m): 1:43pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
Humanistme: My brain jare... just asking you a question ooo...not that I've concluded it's a certainty... Further research on the matter can help resolve this though... Modified: It appears butterflyl1on has dealt with this... 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by butterflyl1on: 1:44pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
Humanistme: Joseph was not the natural father to Jesus though so supposed by the Jews, Joseph being indeed his legal father due to being married to mary when Jesus was born. Joseph was the son of Jacob and Heli was considered a father in-law from the lineage of Mary. OkCornel already adviced you to always refer to the original before making your blunders. Joseph was clearly the son of Jacob according to Matthew 1:16, so Luke 3:23 should be understood to mean “son-in-law of Heli.” So the genealogy of Christ in Luke is actually the genealogy of Mary, while Matthew gives that of Joseph. Actually the word "son” is not in the original, so it would be legitimate to supply either “son” or “son-in-law” in this context. Since Matthew and Luke clearly have very similar content, it is certain that neither one could unknowingly include such a flagrant apparent mistake as the wrong genealogy in his record. Based on this, the two genealogies show that both parents were descendants of David 1) Joseph through Solomon (Matthew 1:7-15), thus inheriting the legal right to the throne of David 2) Mary through Nathan (Luke 3:23-31), her line thus carrying the seed of David, since Solomon’s line had been refused the throne because of Jechoniah’s sin 1 Like |
Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by butterflyl1on: 1:45pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
Humanistme: Nothing to wiggle. I already destroyed that. 1 Like |
Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by Humanistme: 1:47pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
butterflyl1on: link to the source that said heli is the father inlaw because the infallible perfect bible said father 6 Likes |
Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by Humanistme: 1:48pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
butterflyl1on:link? |
Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by dalaman: 1:49pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
butterflyl1on: I don't believe you. Show me the link that says epigenetic an change skin colour, body markings but not the physical structure itself. Pls show me. 2 Likes |
Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by butterflyl1on: 1:50pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
OkCornel: You are getting it wrong. The men heard Saul speaking to someone but could not see the person or hear what Saul was hearing. The second one said they saw a light (yet did not see any man) nor hear what Saul was hearing. Surely the light they saw is different from seeing A MAN. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by OkCornel(m): 1:53pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
Humanistme: Does the Bible contain everything on Jewish history? |
Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by danvon(m): 1:54pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
Humanistme:"Which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi, which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Janna, which was the son of Joseph," Luke:3:24 "And Eliud begat Eleazar; and Eleazar begat Matthan; and Matthan begat Jacob;" Matthew:1:15 Is there any similarities they used Joseph's name but it was the genealogy of Mary |
Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by butterflyl1on: 1:55pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
dalaman: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/bioproject/362574 1 Like |
Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by butterflyl1on: 1:56pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
Humanistme: Scroll up. I am not your errand boy. 3 Likes |
Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by OkCornel(m): 1:56pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
butterflyl1on: Thanks I get it now... Perhaps...amazed and afraid are used to explain the dread Paul's escort felt all through the experience...but was interpreted out of context using two different English words... 1 Like |
Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by butterflyl1on: 1:57pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
Humanistme: I already gave you the scripture link to their individual genealogies why not take a look for yourself. 1 Like |
Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by dalaman: 2:01pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
butterflyl1on: Teacher don't teach me nonsense. Nothing there clearly agrees with what you stated. |
Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by butterflyl1on: 2:07pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
dalaman: This is why I said you are not a science student Maybe this may help you further.. From the link I gave you it says this This provides one of the first examples of environmentally-driven differences in epigenetics that associates with adaptive [b]phenotypic divergence.[/b] Overall design: To examine the association between this adaptive divergence and epigenetic differences, we sampled at least 30 individuals from a “river” site characterized by constantly fast water current speeds due to input from underground springs Explanation of Phenotypic divergence is below dalaman A phenotypic trait, or simply trait, is a distinct variant of a phenotypic characteristic of an organism; it may be either inherited or determined environmentally, but typically occurs as a combination of the two. For example, eye color is a character of an organism, while blue, brown and hazel are traits. I hope you also realise that a divergence means a change or a different direction. The study is on the changes caused epigenetically based on environmental factors. (Don't mind all the big big grammer used) 1 Like |
Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by Humanistme: 2:13pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
butterflyl1on: the scriptures as in the bible genealogy is contradictory. I asked for other sources whether Hebrew or jewish writings which mentioned heli was mary's father and not Joseph's father. |
Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by Humanistme: 2:17pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
danvon: the bible didn't say it was the genealogy of Mary. it specifically said the father of Joseph so I don't know what you are talking about. |
Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by butterflyl1on: 2:21pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
Humanistme: I thought you could easily pick out contradictions so how you not follow a simple genealogy? The genealogy is straight forward and not contradictory. The original text did not include SON and simply said JOSEPH OF HELI. Nothing like Son there but Mathew clearly said JOSEPH SON OF JACOB. 1 Like |
Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by Humanistme: 2:23pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
OkCornel: I don't believe everything in the bible. that is why I asked for the link to other Jewish sources na |
Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by Humanistme: 2:27pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
butterflyl1on: what version of the lies is the original text? link pls king James version Luke 3:23-38 King James Version (KJV) And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of |
Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by butterflyl1on: 2:30pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
Humanistme: So to you King James is the original text? Lmao 1 Like |
Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by Humanistme: 2:31pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
butterflyl1on: post the the link to the original text na or I should just believe because you said so |
Re: DEBATE: Pls Present All The Biblical Contradictions And Lies Here. by butterflyl1on: 2:33pm On Feb 28, 2018 |
Humanistme: This is the original Greek text here http://biblehub.com/text/luke/3-23.htm The word there is Ἠλὶ and it means OF HELI and not SON OF.... 1 Like |
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