Real and fake fans united FC.....uselessness united FC .....piano united FC....we won the transfer FC...

joeace2020:
To the Mourinho haters and conspiracy theorists, let me ask one question. Would Mourinho come out in front of the world and lie to the press about the tactics worked on in training and what the players put out there? If your answer is no then we know who deserves the blame?

This was Mourinho's comments
"When I spend two days on faster building up with the ball arriving earlier in between the lines in attacking areas and that depends on qualities and decisions by defenders in possession, but also depends on movement from attacking players.

"When I have spent two days working on this and I arrive here and have attacking players were hiding behind the defenders and not wanting the ball and defenders playing just square passes and taking 10,12 passes to go from one line to another line. I have to feel frustrated."

Can he come out to lie about what the team worked on and what the players whose brains Mourinho doesn't control did?

Oga leave that thing, what is the responsibility of a coach if not to get his ideas across to the players and interpreted on the pitch?
If the boys are not playing to instruction, you have a large squad, make changes.
This is his second season and we can't point to one area of improvement in our team, if the players are not good enough, whose fault? Most definitely his fault cos he has had four transfer windows already and close to 300m pounds to fix this yet we are still treated to uninspiring football.
Whilst he is at his business of blame games, he should tell us who is sanctioning the contract renewals of the same average players.

diggz:
Real and fake fans united FC.....uselessness united FC .....piano united FC....we won the transfer FC...

see your face like my shoe wey I no polish.

patrickmuf:
See how some fans are jumping on that uninformed comment to spit lies, wasn't it Mou that compared us to Sevilla?
Isn't Mou the same person complaining that the players aren't good enough?
And isn't it the same Mou that giving the go ahead for renewals?
Mourinho has failed this season for the resources at his disposal and the fans have the right to complain...
All this blind loyalty makes no sense whatsoever.

This exact blind loyalty and "real v7 fake fans" bruhaha is what we had to battle with Enrique last season albeit; he wasn't trolling his own club. How time time flies! There's a thin line between being a fan n an ass licker but many does not realise this.

obainojazz:
see your face like my shoe wey I no polish.

Scummy how markrrtt? I hear say pochettino dey come face una...shey na true?

diggz:



Scummy how markrrtt? I hear say pochettino dey come face una...shey na true?

We'll give him the Chelsea treatment.

patrickmuf:
Oga leave that thing, what is the responsibility of a coach if not to get his ideas across to the players and interpreted on the pitch?
If the boys are not playing to instruction, you have a large squad, make changes.
This is his second season and we can't point to one area of improvement in our team, if the players are not good enough, whose fault? Most definitely his fault cos he has had four transfer windows already and close to 300m pounds to fix this yet we are still treated to uninspiring football.
Whilst he is at his business of blame games, he should tell us who is sanctioning the contract renewals of the same average players.

Very very deep......& when he fails next season his supporters, "the real fans" start blaming Pep for not renewing average players' contract @ city OR buying wingbacks @ the price of a midfielder.
It's shameful but I ain't surprised that just as Jose is obsessed with Pep, his supporters are too & he knows how to deceive/play them like Liar Moh'd & Buhari did & are still doing.

elampiro:
Eph12

See here, Rashford led the line and Lingard scored against Derby. Martial came from the bench to give an Assist. Fellaini scored the second goal. There was no Lukaku.

If we are to argue using your logic, Lukaku is the reason Lingard and Martial have not hit 20 goals each because these boys are more productive without Lukaku. How about that?

I can see Lingard and Lukaku as the goal scorers

Somebody claims he met shit @ the club, oya clear the shit, no, u decided to renew the same shit contract (rojo, Fellaini & their likes)>>>just contracting himself as if players he himself bought ain't shit.

I agree he cleared some shit according to him like Delay, Shneiderlin, Swertitnger, etc so he shouldn't stop clearing cos I would not take it lightly should he hide his shame in Pep's anuss next season...he is so so obsessed with Pep & eee don too much.

On another hand I don't blame him cos we knew who he was before he came but just cos of Pep's coming & the fear of being left behind as Moyes & Lvg didn't do well, we were left with no option but to dine with the enemy.

Where is it done that a club/company would permit its employee(s) to disgrace them publicly

This board is worse than the Ass.anaal board truth be told......

raumdeuter:
One thing about Mourinho that his fans say is that he doesnt give you exciting football but he wins

The moment he doesnt win then you have nothing to hand on to

Look at the display of the second half and the chances Brighton have got. A better attack would have punished you

second thing about mourinho is that he creates division among the fans.one set of fans blames the players for their misfortune,while the other sets of fans blames the coach for their woeful performances.

E don do now. Abi how long we go take talk about all these things. Let's forget about the UCL. The lads are going for IB. Hopefully they'll stay out of injury coming back to continue the fight for top 4 and FA cup.

elampiro:


And you count Lukaku's hardwork beneficial? A player that is suppose to be scoring is not scoring but doing hardwork, you praise him. The one that is suppose to do hardwork is doing scoring on top and you dislike him.

[b]Lingard is mostly used to face physical and fast opponents so that he can help the right back or DM. He deserves praise[/b]s.

This bolded sums up our approach to games, we now set up to counter the threat of teams instead of teams setting up to counter the threat we pose...This is the reason why Lukaku isn't scoring enough...
How on earth do you start Fellaini in your most important game of the season and expect your striker to thrive, Elampiro, if you saw that game vs Sevilla, we kept on aiming long balls to Fellaini who originally was part of a two man midfield, this stupid tactic left Matic all on his own for the most part in that first half.
We hardly create goal scoring opportunities for our forwards compared to our rivals and to be honest, our best croses into the box this season has been done by who? Lukaku...He isn't the standard but he has been class above the rest for the past month and a half...
I still don't know why Mou disrupted the Lukaku - Martial partnership in favor of Sanchez...

patrickmuf:
This bolded sums up our approach to games, we now set up to counter the threat of teams instead of teams setting up to counter the threat we pose...This is the reason why Lukaku isn't scoring enough...
How on earth do you start Fellaini in your most important game of the season and expect your striker to thrive, Elampiro, if you saw that game vs Sevilla, we kept on aiming long balls to Fellaini who originally was part of a two man midfield, this stupid tactic left Matic all on his own for the most part in that first half.
We hardly create goal scoring opportunities for our forwards compared to our rivals and to be honest, our best croses into the box this season has been done by who? Lukaku...He isn't the standard but he has been class above the rest for the past month and a half...
I still don't know why Mou disrupted the Lukaku - Martial partnership in favor of Sanchez...

Ferguson used Rooney many years for same job Lingard is doing. Nothing Bad in it. Even JS Park was preferred for big games over better forwards because of his work rate which you call activity.

elampiro:
Eph12

See here, Rashford led the line and Lingard scored against Derby. Martial came from the bench to give an Assist. Fellaini scored the second goal. There was no Lukaku.

If we are to argue using your logic, Lukaku is the reason Lingard and Martial have not hit 20 goals each because these boys are more productive without Lukaku. How about that?

This was said about Lingard at the end of last season

Lingard featured 42 times for United this season and was a favorite of Jose Mourinho. He scored 5 goals and added 3 assists on the season. In order to become the man for United, he must be a double-digit goal scorer. He will need to work on this in the off-season and if he is able to combine a great goalscoring ability with his work ethic, then he will become a force for United.

Martial scored a total of 8 goals in all competitions last season. Make of this what you want

elampiro:


Ferguson used Rooney many years for same job Lingard is doing. Nothing Bad in it. Even JS Park was preferred for big games over better forwards because of his work rate which you call activity.

Oga easy on the lies, Fergie used Rooney in the Pogba role, how do you keep a straight face and compare Rooney's role in midfield with Lingard who ordinarily should be linking our midfield and attack but due to his technical deficiencies is forced to run around just to deceive folks like you.
Next time you sit to watch our match, take a closer look at Lingard, he'll drive forward with the ball when there's space but once he encounters an opposition player, he'll run into him and lose the ball...This is serious activity...
J.S. Park was not just all hustle, he could pass, dribble and score occasionally, he was perfect almost every time, his role was even limited at United compared to his PSV days where he played mostly from the wings/AM position (case in point, watch PSV vs Milan, UCL semis or quarters in 2007)...Park was a very intelligent player, hard worker, yes but technically good.
I am of the opinion that he should be loaned out if Pogba must blossom cos he plays too much and ends up distracting others, all those childish handshakes and stuffs are not for serious footballers...

patrickmuf:
Oga easy on the lies, Fergie used Rooney in the Pogba role, how do you keep a straight face and compare Rooney's role in midfield with Lingard who ordinarily should be linking our midfield and attack but due to his technical deficiencies is forced to run around just to deceive folks like you.
Next time you sit to watch our match, take a closer look at Lingard, he'll drive forward with the ball when there's space but once he encounters an opposition player, he'll run into him and lose the ball...This is serious activity...
J.S. Park was not just all hustle, he could pass, dribble and score occasionally, he was perfect almost every time, his role was even limited at United compared to his PSV days where he played mostly from the wings/AM position (case in point, watch PSV vs Milan, UCL semis or quarters in 2007)...Park was a very intelligent player, hard worker, yes but technically good.
I am of the opinion that he should be loaned out if Pogba must blossom cos he plays too much and ends up distracting others, all those childish handshakes and stuffs are not for serious footballers...

When Lingard is not in a goal scoring position, he's actually useless

eph12:

When Lingard is not in a goal scoring position, he's actually useless

Very useless, only thing he's got is good shooting technique and sometimes, positioning otherwise he is the perfect representation of a headless chicken, he beats Pedro to it...

Lol, he still has more goals than de bruyne, erikson, ozil, mhikitaryan, willian and ali,

as if positioning and shooting technique no join for football.


well


Einsteins will always be Einsteins

Ramuzaki as usual de post link make him disciples still get something new to moan about.

Abeg when una turn this Lukaku amala finish, make una share am reach back o, we wey dey back dey observe never see betta food chop.

patrickmuf:
Very useless, only thing he's got is good shooting technique and sometimes, positioning otherwise he is the perfect representation of a headless chicken, he beats Pedro to it...

Lol.

Judging by some failed pundit's view, at the start of the season, Man United fans and supporters worldwide were expecting a 20-goal season from Jesse Lingard.

But it is Lukaku preventing him from hitting that mark because prior to his arrival Lingard was supposedly "on the up" in terms of goal scoring.

The type of lies one reads here, I'm sure Satan is expecting somebody and reserving space for that person in the lake of fire.

weedtaker:
Lol, he still has more goals than de bruyne, erikson, ozil, mhikitaryan, willian and ali,

as if positioning and shooting technique no join for football.


well


Einsteins will always be Einsteins

Lol

If Einstein was like you the square root of zero will be 1



Most of those people you listed will basically walk into any top side in the world because they are doing a whole lot more for their sides.
Is Jesse Lingard that good? At the height of his rich vein of form Lingard was basically an active runner and nothing more.

Some Dudes are very funny on this Thread. United Players are already accustomed to conservative Football. They are overly used to defensive Tactic, thus you can't expect them to play offensive football perfectly because of Two Days Training Session.

Mou was only looking for flimsy Excuse to exonerate himself. Moreso he subbed off Luke Shaw simply to make him a Scapegoat, coz I see nothing wrong the Lad did in the first Half of the Match.

How did he expect United Players to play fast attacking Football because of just two Days Training Session?! Did they build Rome in two Days?! It took Man City Players a complete Season to master Pep's attacking Philosophy, hence Mou is only fooling himself not us.

He does not want to be criticised, he believes he's the best and immune to making Mistakes, hence any Pundits that critique his Work or Tactic must be paid back harshly by him. Thank God the Season is almost end, so if he's tired of managing the Team, then I advise him to mutually renege his Contract at the End of the Season.

joeace2020:
To the Mourinho haters and conspiracy theorists, let me ask one question. Would Mourinho come out in front of the world and lie to the press about the tactics worked on in training and what the players put out there? If your answer is no then we know who deserves the blame?

This was Mourinho's comments
"When I spend two days on faster building up with the ball arriving earlier in between the lines in attacking areas and that depends on qualities and decisions by defenders in possession, but also depends on movement from attacking players.

"When I have spent two days working on this and I arrive here and have attacking players were hiding behind the defenders and not wanting the ball and defenders playing just square passes and taking 10,12 passes to go from one line to another line. I have to feel frustrated."

Can he come out to lie about what the team worked on and what the players whose brains Mourinho doesn't control did?

I repeat, Mourinho is an idiot for telling us that he spent 2days for faster building up. So what has the team been practicing since. It is obvious he more concerned aboutvwinning games by defending, if not why would he try to justify the fact that he practices moving the ball forward quickly and when the players couldn't do it because they were used to the defensive tactics he has be deploying since he arrived he now wants to blame them.

FFS is moving forward quickly or faster with the ball with the intent of scoring not supposed to be the signature or any team talkless of a club like united and this bozo is telling us he used 2days to practice moving the ball forward quickly just to berate the players and absolve himself again.

Every team Strive to go forward it is the quality of opposition that prevents that that's why the coach needs to buy players that he believes will achieve this but yetvwe are renewing contracts of questionable players.

Like someone said, The bat has been setting up his team to counter the threat of other teams instead of setting up his team to attack and all of absudden he uses 2days to practice moving the ball forward quickly and expectsbit to work perfectly well like he thinks he can get a 0-0 scoreline away and the win by a lone goal at home with defensive masterclass and he will call himself a genius. Rawbinsh!!!

i am sorry guys.. i am sorry i said anything positive about Mourinho and his dour defend first football. We are all in agreement, the players have been coached to go into every match as the underdogs so it's weird that the manager would want to coach them to attack in 2 days when he's spent 18 months training them to defend first. I didn't know so many fans had access to training drills and all. My bad

BushWickBill:

Lol

If Einstein was like you the square root of zero will be 1



Most of those people you listed will basically walk into any top side in the world because they are doing a whole lot more for their sides.
Is Jesse Lingard that good? At the height of his rich vein of form Lingard was basically an active runner and nothing more.

Chineke meh!!!

We all depend on what we're fed, it's Mourinho who has been talking ever since the disgraceful outing vs Sevilla, it's him who told he had spent two days practicing quick transition all because he was criticized for being too conservative.
He is talking now that the players didn't implement his method as much as he would have liked just so he can be absolved of any blame, that's cheap if you ask me.
I watched Man City for the first time against Arsenal last season in a friendly match after Pep had just taken over and the first thing I noticed was each time the keeper had the ball, the two CBs split and the DM drops back to occupy the auxiliary CB role giving the keeper 3 options to play out of defense. Now that's a coach whose imprint you can immediately point to.
This season, when Walker was bought, the rave all over the English press was that Pep had gotten his man, another Alves but Pep came out to say Walker is quick, yes but also brainless and noted that he'll go about teaching Walker to use his brain often...Now go and watch Walker and tell me if he isn't playing better and playing more with his head rather than pace...
I can't point to a pattern under Mourinho, at least with LVG, it was possession football (only downside was the lack of penetration), with Mou, we just seem to go out hoping one moment of individual brilliance decides the contest or long hopeful balls to Fellaini...
If Mou continue pushing the blame to the players, be rest assured that sooner rather than later, they'll revolt...

Oasis007:



Mou was only looking for flimsy Excuse to exonerate himself. Moreso he subbed off Luke Shaw simply to make him a Scapegoat, coz I see nothing wrong the Lad did in the first Half of the Match.

Scapegoat for what exactly? A match we won with a clean sheet?

So you missed this explanation down below for Shaws withdrawal or what? Guess who gave the assist for the 2nd goal.....his replacement


"As for the defence It was really important the two full-backs were aggressive and I didn't have that with Luke Shaw and Antonio Valencia. I didn't change both of them because then I would have only one more substitution. But to try to change our offensive football and be more aggressive, I had to change one of them and I decided Luke. At least Antonio was capable of some good positioning. Every time they went in Luke's corridor the cross was coming in. I was not happy with his performance."



Jose.....www.skysports.com

eph12:

This was said about Lingard at the end of last season

Martial scored a total of 8 goals in all competitions last season. Make of this what you want

Lingard is already into double digits this season, so I don't get what you mean.

Lingard's 13 goals in all competitions is second behind Lukaku. Lingard is even more productive than the rest of his mates including Lukaku because he has the best goals per minutes played record.

patrickmuf:
Lukaku's tally has dropped compared to last season when he was at Everton, we are not getting it right in attack...

really?

patrickmuf:
Oga easy on the lies, Fergie used Rooney in the Pogba role, how do you keep a straight face and compare Rooney's role in midfield with Lingard who ordinarily should be linking our midfield and attack but due to his technical deficiencies is forced to run around just to deceive folks like you.
.

Let me make you understand the role of Lingard even though not as efficient as Rooney.

Firstly, Rooney played in the wing in his first season for United. He played there many other times throughout his career particularly when SAF emoloyed a 4-3-3 formation.

Take for instance, our match against Inter Milan at Old Trafford, once we went a goal up, Rooney was moved to left flank to protect Evra who was facing the most difficulties on the night. He played more as a wing back, then overlap to Assist a goal for Ronaldo. Giggs was moved to number 10. Same way against Madrid where he was meant to help Raphael stop Di Maria and Ronaldo. I think he did similar work against Barca in two or three occasions. In our UCL against Chelsea, Rooney was instructed to occuppy Michael Essien once we we lost the ball. Rooney was increasing protesting his defensive roles.

According to Ferguson, Welbeck got the nod ahead of Rooney against Madrid at Old Trafford because of Welbeck's ability to track back faster.

So you can see that even SAF always needed a player who could attack and work hard. That's the work of Lingard currently. Lingard has performed or bailed us out where Martial and Lukaku failed. True.

patrickmuf:

Next time you sit to watch our match, take a closer look at Lingard, he'll drive forward with the ball when there's space but once he encounters an opposition player, he'll run into him and lose the ball...This is serious activity...
J.S. Park was not just all hustle, he could pass, dribble and score occasionally, he was perfect almost every time, his role was even limited at United compared to his PSV days where he played mostly from the wings/AM position (case in point, watch PSV vs Milan, UCL semis or quarters in 2007)...Park was a very intelligent player, hard worker, yes but technically good.
I am of the opinion that he should be loaned out if Pogba must blossom cos he plays too much and ends up distracting others, all those childish handshakes and stuffs are not for serious footballers...

I am not arguing the quality of Lingard, Park and Rooney. What I said is they are made to play same role. Lingard has a unique quality Martial, Sanchez, Mata, etc don't have. So he will come ahead in selection or substitution in some situations and matches.

When we play against a fast physical side which are dominating us, Lingard will be ahead with his ability to go to our defensive third and win the ball, then drive it forward.

However, your claim that Lingard is all activity is rubbished by the fact that he is our most productive player on goals per minutes. He is also our second highest goal scorer in all competition despite having less minutes than Martial and Rashford.

elampiro:


Lingard is already into double digits this season, so I don't get what you mean.

Lingard's 13 goals in all competitions is second behind Lukaku. Lingard is even more productive than the rest of his mates including Lukaku because he has the best goals per minutes played record.

You were trying to tell us that Lingard has been doing better than this before Lukaku came.