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Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by shaybebaby(f): 11:39am On Mar 25, 2018
winner01:
Local champion, is this your version of Nigerian atheism grin
Several foreign atheists whom y'all look up to explain atheism differently.
Different explanations yes, but SAME conclusion.
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Butterflyleo: 11:41am On Mar 25, 2018
superhumanist:



What kind of nonsense are you spewing?

Were you not the one that foolishly compared a football match attendance to an atheist convention?

One is niche and the other is a popular sport.


Guy. You have embarrassed yourself.


Indeed you are brainless


Butterflyleo:


That guy no get sense at all at all

Even local
football matches draw more attendees than that and he calls a global convention with 4000 attendees as not poorly attended.

Now 4000 must look like 400,000 in his eyes

Note the word LOCAL. here you are talking about A GLOBAL CONVENTION. I even did you a service by using LOCAL. you no get sense.

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Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by winner01(m): 11:53am On Mar 25, 2018
Butterflyleo:



Indeed you are brainless




Note the word LOCAL. here you are talking about A GLOBAL CONVENTION. I even did you a service by using LOCAL. you no get sense.
Superhumanist knows the truth. He's only being a bigot.

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Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by shaybebaby(f): 11:54am On Mar 25, 2018
What does atheism offer?
Here's your answer.

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Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by winner01(m): 11:54am On Mar 25, 2018
dalaman:


You made it about religion and failed to tell us what religion has to offer that are realistic. You only pointed out the mythical and fictional promises your religion had to offer.
Okay sorry.


Now, tell us the truth about atheism, why should folks leave "myths" and embrace atheism?
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Nwadiuto247: 12:01pm On Mar 25, 2018
@OP, i ve gone through some replies of atheists here and they are still doing the same mockery of religion as usual . It's obvious that they dont have anything to offer only hopelessness as usual.
They are hopeless people. That's the message they are giving out.
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by winner01(m): 12:11pm On Mar 25, 2018
shaybebaby:
What does atheism offer?
Here's your answer.

Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Nwadiuto247: 12:12pm On Mar 25, 2018
winner01:
Okay sorry.


Now, tell us the truth about atheism, why should folks leave "myths" and embrace atheism?


This Is the answer they ve failed to give me.

If you want me to move from point A to point B, kindly tell me what better thing that i will get in point B that i ve not gotten in point A.
They ve failed to give me the answer to the above question. All i get from them is their usual hopelessness.
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by superhumanist(m): 12:16pm On Mar 25, 2018
Butterflyleo:



Indeed you are brainless




Note the word LOCAL. here you are talking about A GLOBAL CONVENTION. I even did you a service by using LOCAL. you no get sense.


Does the global title change anything?

There are local matches that are more packed than international ones or even global ones.


What matters is the sample size....and also the nature of the event.

You are just arguing semantics like a joker
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by shaybebaby(f): 12:20pm On Mar 25, 2018
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Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by winner01(m): 12:26pm On Mar 25, 2018
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by shaybebaby(f): 12:32pm On Mar 25, 2018
[quote author=winner01 post=66140631] grin

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Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by winner01(m): 12:46pm On Mar 25, 2018
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by winner01(m): 12:47pm On Mar 25, 2018
@shaybebaby, oya let's not derail this fine thread.
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by superhumanist(m): 1:05pm On Mar 25, 2018
winner01:
Superhumanist knows the truth. He's only being a bigot.

Says the man that tells lies against atheists
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Nobody: 7:51pm On Mar 28, 2018
Butterflyleo:


I am sure you read the comments on this thread right from the beginning.

Do you mind carrying out an analysis of the comments? Unless you are saying that the atheistswho made those comments do not have good hearts. grin

Besides, what is a good heart? What is the basis for morality for an atheist? How do they rationalise "good" from "acceptable" because to an atheist, morality is subjective which in itself is ridiculous. This means that "they" decide what is good or bad and can choose to do bad because they feel that at that point, that bad is a good thing.

Can you please help me join in my clarion call by asking any atheist here to list out what atheism has to offer since they as atheists believe in this reality as of today and never imagine a future that isn't tangible to them. So where is the hope Coming from?

These are honest words from atheists below who do not pretend about anything same way those who commented here as atheists stuck with their worldview and spoke about the hopelessness and emptiness of their worldview





He also said and I quote

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If that’s not enough, the atheist chemist Peter Atkins goes as far as to call us



The atheist Jon Casimir, as cited by Marsden, is forthright with his own comment and I quote him:



Existentialist Jean-Paul Sartre goes on to articulate his nihilistic epiphany thus:


The religious are seen as objective while atheists see themselves as subjective. I could show you what they think of objectivity and how silly it is and this has made them (atheists) to hold absolutely NO VALUES.

So tell me again where their hopes, encouragement, motivation, comfort, etc comes from.

You need to read up and find out why ALL atheists are nihilists.

When will you understand that atheism is not a religion,we don't have a creed or commandment,there are a thousands shades of atheists,the only similarity you find in all atheists is that they don't believe in "God" just the same way the only similarity you can find in SantaClausphobians(people who don't believe in Santa Claus *coined) is that they don't belive in santa every other feature or attitude can differ,the only difference is that in the case of the former they are given a name "Atheists"
Speaking of morality,we have the Nigerian constitution (although I don't agree with all the laws in it),we have the human right declaration, we also have our consciences,the least source I would depend on for morality is the bible,although I find some things in it recommendable,but because people view it as a.book authored by "God" I think it is a stumbling block to development and happiness
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Butterflyleo: 7:54pm On Mar 28, 2018
darkchild64:


When will you understand that atheism is not a religion,we don't have a creed or commandment,there a thousands of shades of atheists.
Speaking of morality,we have the Nigerian constitution (although I don't agree with all the laws in it),we have the human right declaration, we also have our consciences,the least source I would depend on for morality is the bible,although I find some things in it recommendable,but because people view it as a.book authored by "God" I think it is a stumbling block to development and happiness

Lmao.

As an atheist can you explain what a conscience is and where it comes from? Also note that a conscience is not tangible so how do you know it exists?

You deny the morality found in the bible but you trust your own subjective judgement despite having the Nigerian constitution as AN OBJECTIVE MORALITY. grin

Or did you not know that the Nigerian constitution is Objective and not subjective?

How do you marry both since atheists are subjective? If you would accept an objective Nigerian constitution why then would you reject an ALSO objective morality of the bible?
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Nobody: 8:11pm On Mar 28, 2018
Butterflyleo:


Lmao.

As an atheist can you explain what a conscience is and where it comes from? Also note that a conscience is not tangible so how do you know it exists?

You deny the morality found in the bible but you trust your own subjective judgement despite having the Nigerian constitution as AN OBJECTIVE MORALITY. grin

Or did you not know that the Nigerian constitution is Objective and not subjective?

How do you marry both since atheists are subjective? If you would accept an objective Nigerian constitution why then would you reject an ALSO objective morality of the bible?

I will speak for myself,I don't believe anything is good or bad,it all depend on the result it produces,when the result is highly unfavourable and causes harm,I term it as bad,when the result is favourable and it optimizes happiness I term it as good.
The "conscience" the way I see it is not an innate characteristic but something you develop overtime based on the knowledge and experience you acquire.
For instance,a child from a rich family may not known that showing off the parents wealth in the presence of poor folks my hurt them,but then as the kid grows up s/he realizes so and even though it is his right to do whatsoever s/he wills with his property he restricts himself,this becomes part of his conscience.
I don't wan to write any further on this because it is a complex topic but butterflyleo let us make this bet to prove that the bible me is a wrong moral guide

Let's ignore the claim that christians don't need to followthe laws of the old testament,dude can you strictly obey the laws in the old testament,I mean word for word,where the bible says go you go,where it says stone you stone, I give you few days and you will find yourself in police detention,if you can not undergo the challenge then you don't have any arguement
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Butterflyleo: 8:25pm On Mar 28, 2018
darkchild64:


I will speak for myself,I don't believe anything is good or bad,it all depend on the result it produces,when the result is highly unfavourable and causes harm,I term it as bad,when the result is favourable and it optimizes happiness I term it as good.
The "conscience" the way I see it is not an innate characteristic but something you develop overtime based on the knowledge and experience you acquire.
For instance,a child from a rich family may not known that showing off the parents wealth in the presence of poor folks my hurt them,but then as the kid grows up s/he realizes so and even though it is his right to do whatsoever s/he wills with his property he restricts himself,this becomes part of his conscience.
I don't wan to write any further on this because it is a complex topic but butterflyleo let us make this bet to prove that the bible me is a wrong moral guide

Let's ignore the claim that christians don't need to followthe laws of the old testament,dude can you strictly obey the laws in the old testament,I mean word for word,where the bible says go you go,where it says stone you stone, I give you few days and you will find yourself in police detention,if you can not undergo the challenge then you don't have any arguement

What you typed is not consceince and not remotely close to it.

Also Christians do not follow the laws in the old testament. Where you got that from needs to help you update yourself
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Nobody: 8:39pm On Mar 28, 2018
Butterflyleo:


What you typed is not consceince and not remotely close to it.

Also Christians do not follow the laws in the old testament. Where you got that from needs to help you update yourself

So you are saying that you can not obey the laws of the old testament for a few days to prove to me that the laws in the old testament are healthy and are not out dated
Is that what you are saying
I don catch you be that
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Butterflyleo: 8:45pm On Mar 28, 2018
darkchild64:


So you are saying that you can not obey the laws of the old testament for a few days to prove to me that the laws in the old testament are healthy and are not out dated
Is that what you are saying
I don catch you be that

Smh when dummies speak they don't even make sense to themselves. undecided

I just told you that as Christians we don't follow the old testament LAWS and you obviously couldn't understand it due to your atheistic worldview which blocks out spiritual things
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Nobody: 8:49pm On Mar 28, 2018
Butterflyleo:


Smh when dummies speak they don't even make sense to themselves. undecided

I just told you that as Christians we don't follow the old testament LAWS and you obviously couldn't understand it due to your atheistic worldview which blocks out spiritual things

Quote the passage that said that christians MUST NOT obey the old testament
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Butterflyleo: 9:02pm On Mar 28, 2018
darkchild64:


Quote the passage that said that christians MUST NOT obey the old testament

Lmao as expected. He only sees things from his fleshly world so is now asking for literal evidence.
I do not wish to stress myself with you when I hold a worldview which is opposed to yours.

What he is seeing is old testament despite the fact that I wrote LAWS in caps. Smh
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Nobody: 9:57pm On Mar 28, 2018
Butterflyleo:


Lmao as expected. He only sees things from his fleshly world so is now asking for literal evidence.
I do not wish to stress myself with you when I hold a worldview which is opposed to yours.

What he is seeing is old testament despite the fact that I wrote LAWS in caps. Smh

fine over to the new testament,the bible dissaproved of christians going to court,how come most christians don't obey that
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Butterflyleo: 10:02pm On Mar 28, 2018
darkchild64:


fine over to the new testament,the bible dissaproved of christians going to court,how come most christians don't obey that

Ogbeni go and sleep. Last time I checked, God is not a task master and we can choose to obey or disobey his word. However it is in our best interest to obey his word.

You obviously are lost and do not even know what you are talking about or even trying to say. Smh
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Nobody: 10:30pm On Mar 28, 2018
Butterflyleo:


Ogbeni go and sleep. Last time I checked, God is not a task master and we can choose to obey or disobey his word. However it is in our best interest to obey his word.

You obviously are lost and do not even know what you are talking about or even trying to say. Smh

It is in your best interest to obey Yahweh not mine,I have no business with an imaginary being
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Butterflyleo: 5:17am On Mar 29, 2018
darkchild64:


It is in your best interest to obey Yahweh not mine,I have no business with an imaginary being

Did I say it was in your own best interest as an atheist? You will find out soon enough whose best interest it is when time comes. You have no business with an imaginary being, yet in the other thread you are asking for evidence of a soul. Continue deceiving yourself

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Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Nobody: 6:32am On Mar 29, 2018
Butterflyleo:


Did I say it was in your own best interest as an atheist? You will find out soon enough whose best interest it is when time comes. You have no business with an imaginary being, yet in the other thread you are asking for evidence of a soul. Continue deceiving yourself

When would that time be,after death,you make me laugh
Dude I don't believe in your heaven and hell it doesn't scare me
Asking for evidence of the existence of soul does that mean I believe it exist
Mtchewwwww
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Butterflyleo: 6:38am On Mar 29, 2018
darkchild64:


When would that time be,after death,you make me laugh
Dude I don't believe in your heaven and hell it doesn't scare me
Asking for evidence of the existence of soul does that mean I believe it exist
Mtchewwwww

Lmao see how confused you are. You do not believe in heaven or hell and you say asking for evidence of the soul does not mean you believe it exists and that was why I said that your thread was silly and ridiculously illogical. Why then would you be asking for evidence of something that does not subscribe to your worldview?

Do you now see how silly you sound and how silly your thread looks in the light of this comment of yours here? grin

I at least expect you should see it now wink

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Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Nobody: 7:37am On Mar 29, 2018
Butterflyleo:


Lmao see how confused you are. You do not believe in heaven or hell and you say asking for evidence of the soul does not mean you believe it exists and that was why I said that your thread was silly and ridiculously illogical. Why then would you be asking for evidence of something that does not subscribe to your worldview?

Do you now see how silly you sound and how silly your thread looks in the light of this comment of yours here? grin

I at least expect you should see it now wink

Okay whatever
I don't have strength to reply your posts again,have a nice day
Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by Butterflyleo: 7:44am On Mar 29, 2018
darkchild64:


Okay whatever
I don't have strength to reply your posts again,have a nice day

You shouldn't bother replying my post because you replied yourself and exposed your illogicality by using your own post.

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Re: I Want To Help Atheism Grow. *wink* Wink* by godisgood200: 12:57pm On Mar 29, 2018
shaybebaby:
What does atheism offer?
Here's your answer.
You have everything to live? What are they pls?

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