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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by megacontrol(m): 10:19pm On Apr 12, 2018
There seem to be no consistent practice to this sand filling thing. tends to change depending on who you speak to, even the Engr/builders sometimes have different opinions.

Trying to sand fill a location for a project starting soon, max 3months, so they recommend sharp sand due to the short time. Then I find out there’s different sharp sand.

Questions:

(A) Can we use the white “sharp” sand being reclaimed from dredging activities? Since this may likely come cheaper, any downside? Will same settling be achieved with compaction?

(B) the other coloured coarse sharp sand. Is it true this soaks more water and therefore will require less volume to fill same area when compared to (a) above?

(C) Can both types of sharp sand be mixed? Can we use a combination of both? Any effect?
Since I understand sometimes clients can’t even tell the difference anyway, so might be happening a lot.

One thing I’ve agreed on is that the red filling sand is not an option due to the short period, but I’ll like clarity on the sharp sand characteristics and suitability.

Foundation type is Pile.

Thanks

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by katamo: 10:45pm On Apr 12, 2018
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:52pm On Apr 12, 2018
megacontrol:
There seem to be no consistent practice to this sand filling thing. tends to change depending on who you speak to, even the Engr/builders sometimes have different opinions.

Trying to sand fill a location for a project starting soon, max 3months, so they recommend sharp sand due to the short time. Then I find out there’s different sharp sand.

Questions:

(A) Can we use the white “sharp” sand being reclaimed from dredging activities? Since this may likely come cheaper, any downside? Will same settling be achieved with compaction?

(B) the other coloured coarse sharp sand. Is it true this soaks more water and therefore will require less volume to fill same area when compared to (a) above?

(C) Can both types of sharp sand be mixed? Can we use a combination of both? Any effect?
Since I understand sometimes clients can’t even tell the difference anyway, so might be happening a lot.

One thing I’ve agreed on is that the red filling sand is not an option due to the short period, but I’ll like clarity on the sharp sand characteristics and suitability.

Foundation type is Pile.

Thanks

Please explain your thoughts/findings on this.

Thanks.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by koolengrtimmy(m): 12:24am On Apr 13, 2018
Rubbiish:

1:3:6

I will support 1: 3: 6 too
well client could use any other mix ratio
Meaning
2 headpans of cement
6 headpans of fine aggregates
12 headpans of coarse aggregates

Provided headpans are still new and the content weighs 25kg.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by koolengrtimmy(m): 12:29am On Apr 13, 2018
bixton:



While awaiting recommendations...........

Do you have a catalogue of your fabricated shower cubicles and what's the thickness of the glass?




I use 10 mm , well client could request for higher mm but since it will be tempered & toughened.
If something comes up, we can discuss better.
Thank you for responding anyway.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by micxwell(m): 12:34am On Apr 13, 2018
abike12:


No I'm not. I'm a Chemical Engr
Nice one.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by koolengrtimmy(m): 12:46am On Apr 13, 2018
akinolaolujide:

A lot of people do it it's the cost associated with that makes people shy away from it.

Do you also consider security, fire rating and ease of finishes?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by megacontrol(m): 4:09am On Apr 13, 2018
nothing but hearsay, so yeah that may just be another myth that should be substantiated or dumped.
however,the difference with that one is that a few professionals seem to allude to that. so i can easily believe that.

do you reckon the red filling sand will suffice in this case?

EgunMogaji:


Please explain your thoughts/findings on this.

Thanks.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 4:25am On Apr 13, 2018
megacontrol:
nothing but hearsay, so yeah that may just be another myth that should be substantiated or dumped.
however,the difference with that one is that a few professionals seem to allude to that. so i can easily believe that.

do you reckon the red filling sand will suffice in this case?


Foundation is a very critical stage of building and I wouldn't dare to profess an opinion to be followed as I am just a layperson.

However, I used laterite on my build, about 300 tons, but I built up the layers over a period of 18 months (I have the time because retirement is still a few years away).

I will be watching responses from astute and demonstrated builders like Aventures, AbdulWastecx, Skimanski, Darenyx, RichYoungRuler, Spyder880 because it's a subject that I'm most interested in.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 4:32am On Apr 13, 2018
koolengrtimmy:


Do you also consider security, fire rating and ease of finishes?


If I may.

Security: Since we're talking about internal partitions then security is not the greatest need. Wood partition can never equal block in terms of physical strength.

Fire Rating: For areas that need firewall such as kitchen and attached garages, wood partitions are covered with fire-resistant drywall. The wood is never directly exposed to fire at any time.

Ease Of Finish: After applying drywall then they are both equal.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by koolengrtimmy(m): 5:58am On Apr 13, 2018
EgunMogaji:


If I may.

Security: Since we're talking about internal partitions then security is not the greatest need. Wood partition can never equal block in terms of physical strength.

Fire Rating: For areas that need firewall such as kitchen and attached garages, wood partitions are covered with fire-resistant drywall. The wood is never directly exposed to fire at any time.

Ease Of Finish: After applying drywall then they are both equal.

That's correct ... I really didn't look at dry wall effect.
nice submission boss.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Walins: 6:17am On Apr 13, 2018
bixton:


For your foundation blinding you can use

Cement: Sand:Granite
1:2:3
Or
1:2:4.

. How many fit will the foundation be
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 6:39am On Apr 13, 2018
Walins:
. How many fit will the foundation be

A look at your particular design plan and if you intend using 6" or 9" will help as to know the range which it will fall .
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 6:40am On Apr 13, 2018
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 6:56am On Apr 13, 2018
EgunMogaji:


Foundation is a very critical stage of building and I wouldn't dare to profess an opinion to be followed as I am just a layperson.

However, I used laterite on my build, about 300 tons, but I built up the layers over a period of 18 months (I have the time because retirement is still a few years away).

I will be watching responses from astute and demonstrated builders like Aventures, AbdulWastecx, Skimanski, Darenyx, RichYoungRuler, Spyder880 because it's a subject that I'm most interested in.

Good morning Oga, there's nothing wrong with filling a foundation with laterite sand, but the right compaction methods must be employed to sink in the soil into all foundation crevices while achieving a compaction method which must ensure that the filling is strong enough to support the floor. Compaction of laterite filling should be done in stages, every 300mm thickness. Problem comes when people are in a hurry, and so ignore the right compaction methods. I am happy you left your filling for some time to sink better.

On the other hand, the white sharp sand which are got from the rivers serve as a better filling material. The cleaner the sand, the better. The filling sand could be coarse too. This material may not sink much under compaction but fills in more crevices and bears much more weight. The other type of sharp sand he mentioned is not clear to me, so I prefer river sharp sand.

I also know that the right materials and right procedures are most times contained in the building plans, which are site specific. The guy who prepares the building plans should visit the site and pass recommendation on the right materials and process, including type of filling sand.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Walins: 8:28am On Apr 13, 2018
bixton:


A look at your particular design plan and if you intend using 6" or 9" will help as to know the range which it will fall .
thank u very much how many block do u get frm a bag of cement

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 8:49am On Apr 13, 2018
EgunMogaji:


Messrs AbdulWastecx and Darenyx, what are the standard setbacks in Nigeria?

Minimum of 3m by the sides, back and 6m at the front

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by omorogbe4kelvin: 10:38am On Apr 13, 2018
good day folks,pls where can I get long span aluminium sheet at the cheapest rate possible in Lagos or Ogun n price .thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 11:09am On Apr 13, 2018
EgunMogaji:


I'm dying to see that sales contract.

Oga Chekitaut, this thing you are doing is it good? grin
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dominionng(m): 12:22pm On Apr 13, 2018
petikal:
OK, here's a question.

Why don't we build with treated/insulated hardwood in Nigeria? You know, a house where the exterior walls can be blocks/concrete, but the interior/room dividers would be wood? Think of the freedom and cost-reduction in running electrical wires/pipes, plumbing, and even future reconstruction/expansion.

My high school in Abia built in 1929 has residential buildings built entirely of wood, and some still look good!

System is very much available plus whole dry build. We create with steel not wood, since there are no *treated/insulated hardwoods* in the country anymore.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dominionng(m): 12:26pm On Apr 13, 2018
bixton:


Whichever you choose is okay.

I've always preferred POP afterwards in the instance of doing full wall tiling.

POP should come first.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 1:32pm On Apr 13, 2018
Dominionng:


POP should come first.

There is no harm in doing it differently.
As there is no actual logical reasoning doing it in any particular format.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinolaolujide(m): 1:58pm On Apr 13, 2018
koolengrtimmy:


Do you also consider security, fire rating and ease of finishes?

Security is out of the questions as external walls are all made of materials strong enough. As for fire u have enough fire resistant paint sprays etc . Then these panels are much easier to finish in that they can be prefabricated to a satisfying level and installed.
The major determinant is cost and technical know how
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dominionng(m): 2:15pm On Apr 13, 2018
bixton:


There is no harm in doing it differently.
As there is no actual logical reasoning doing it in any particular format.


Oh! Of course there is a logical reason sir.
When wall tiles is fixed before POP ceiling, then you need to break the tiles above the ceiling line, or at least all the points where the POP mesh will meet the wall. And with that, there is a high chance of cracked tiles below the ceiling line.
So, why waste money, time and energy when you can have your tiles neatly done after your POP ceiling.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinolaolujide(m): 2:34pm On Apr 13, 2018
bixton:


There is no harm in doing it differently.
As there is no actual logical reasoning doing it in any particular format.

There are pop is a very messy process except you are having it precast y do u want to spend funds cleaning a well done tiling Job or even just preventing pop from getting to it .
Also the scaffold employed by the Pop guys may end up spoiling th tiles. So why take that risk

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:17pm On Apr 13, 2018
Dominionng:


Oh! Of course there is a logical reason sir.
When wall tiles is fixed before POP ceiling, then you need to break the tiles above the ceiling line, or at least all the points where the POP mesh will meet the wall. And with that, there is a high chance of cracked tiles below the ceiling line.
So, why waste money, time and energy when you can have your tiles neatly done after your POP ceiling.

akinolaolujide:

There are pop is a very messy process except you are having it precast y do u want to spend funds cleaning a well done tiling Job or even just preventing pop from getting to it .
Also the scaffold employed by the Pop guys may end up spoiling th tiles. So why take that risk

Most excellent.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinolaolujide(m): 3:27pm On Apr 13, 2018
omorogbe4kelvin:
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 3:57pm On Apr 13, 2018
EgunMogaji:

Most excellent.

I will listen to Dominionng any time.... he is our resident POP Professor here.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 4:20pm On Apr 13, 2018
mufutau55:


I will listen to Dominionng any time.... he is our resident POP Professor here.

Hajji M.

Very true Sir.

I also watch our astute builders and their process as to how they do things.

As good students it behooves us to follow our lectures intently. I look at the pictures they post carefully so I can learn and improve, well try, to improve on my own knowledge and apply it to my site.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 9:38pm On Apr 13, 2018
Oga me feet or meters.

abdulwastecx:


Minimum of 3m by the sides, back and 6m at the front

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