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Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by emecheboy2(m): 11:51am On Apr 25, 2018
God Bless you
eezeribe:
Chimamanda can dissect Hillary Clinton as much as she likes;but one thing remains certain,the likes of Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama will forever remain more highly rated than Ngozi Adichie...
Hillary Clinton is a proud WIFE of former US president and one of the most influential men in the world,Bill Clinton;while Chimamanda remains the wife of a nobody,a man who is so weak that his wife can't even bear his surname.
I have nothing against TRUE FEMINISM,but there is a thin line between COMMON SENSE and NONSENSE.
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by iguita: 12:07pm On Apr 25, 2018
She said 'she felt'. Felt gini? Only an ignorant person will pish Hillary aside. Asides from being a wife to a powerful man, she was accomplished herself. As first lady she did a lot of sociàl works and then moved on to become senator and then presidential candidate. This woman gave Obama a run ft his money so what explanation is aunty feeling?
eezeribe:
Chimamanda can dissect Hillary Clinton as much as she likes;but one thing remains certain,the likes of Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama will forever remain more highly rated than Ngozi Adichie...
Hillary Clinton is a proud WIFE of former US president and one of the most influential men in the world,Bill Clinton;while Chimamanda remains the wife of a nobody,a man who is so weak that his wife can't even bear his surname.
I have nothing against TRUE FEMINISM,but there is a thin line between COMMON SENSE and NONSENSE.
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by ebenholer(m): 12:19pm On Apr 25, 2018
The word 'shut up' is rude and impolite to use even against children. If anyone has actuallly and directly used such word against her, it is bad ad unacceptable. Adichie is entitled to air her view but just that I discovered over the years that feminists are bad for leadership and will do more than worse in leading people and this can be known through what Adichie angrily wrote.

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by HallaDaTruth: 12:23pm On Apr 25, 2018
prechbills1:
I keep thanking God that Hillary Rodham Clinton didn't win that election...

and to Chimamanda
She's Mrs not Ms...

Come back to Africa and start campaigning against the payment of bride price because I don't see any reason why I should pay money before marrying you and won't see you as a "lesser" human. I'd surely take you for a commodity.

To the monkeys that will/may quote me out of context, ;I'm a stunch feminist.




Other foods for thought;

Because a lady is ruling the UK, females are treated like gods there.

As a lady you slap a man in his ass without his consent and you'd be praised for it. You won't be jailed because of useless excuses like; oh she was only playing with him, it's a lie, oh she's pregnant, oh she has kids.
As a man you slap a lady in her ass without her consent and you'd be imprisoned or sued.
That's exactly what's happening in places like Britain, Germany and USA right now.

What's gonna happen if a lady is allowed to rule Nigeria today
men will be treated like dogs.

I pray I never become a President some day, because if I do, any lady that falsely accuses someone of rape, sexual harrasment and molestation will spend their entire lives in jail.


Why should a man be the one to lose more in a case of divorce?
We are in a world where women can't build homes, only men build homes and women move in freely.
Women are always awarded custody of children.


Women are more favoured than men in very very many things yet I pity the men don't complain, even if they do some people still call them "weak".



Like I said earlier I pray I don't become a President... that's all I got to say..


Quote me and answer yourself

I completely agree with you, In usa , uk , france etc, women slap men across the face and everybody thinks it's normal but when a man slaps a woman , he is arrested for assault and abuse immediately, feminism is satanic agenda to destabilize the home which is God's first institution on Earth . There are a million videos on YouTube which explains the real agenda of feminizm . Have you seen the trailer for the incredibles 2, there are lots of subliminal messages in the movie . Satan is trying to create a world of weak feminised men and powerful Women in rebellion to God's order . Google " girl power " and " boy power " you will see the results . Its a Shame Chimamanda is a pawn in these schemes

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by Nobody: 12:25pm On Apr 25, 2018
DexterousOne:


What is this one saying sef?

Since you don't understand me let me kowaciate.

She refuse to bear her husband's name for whatever reason. Maybe because he's a man or because he doesn't own her (But I do hope he paid bride price) or because it promotes the mythical patriarchy. Either of these reasons is enough for her to drop her father's name (Adichie) as well. She can easily find another female name to add to Chimamanda.

Hope you understand now.

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by Nobody: 12:31pm On Apr 25, 2018
oyb:




i agree for a simple reason; yes to my family i may be known as husband/father, but that is not how I am presented to the world. No one who goes into a meeting, or a social gathering is introduced as husband/father. introductions are tied to hierarchical positions and social standing.

there is no social standing in being a husband or father, as most males are in these roles. unfortunately though, the more backward/misognyistic the society, the more standing is assigned to being a wife/mother, a role that most women are also in.

i am much more than a husband/father - and women are also much more than wife/mother. if a persons sole or most notable purpose in life is to marry and bear children, then that is a real problem ; and anyone supporting that is not much better than the saudi's they would be vilifying on other threads

Thank you!
I could not have said it better.
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by Nobody: 12:32pm On Apr 25, 2018
HallaDaTruth:


I completely agree with you, In usa , uk , france etc, women slap men across the face and everybody thinks it's normal but when a man slaps a woman , he is arrested for assault and abuse immediately, feminism is satanic agenda to destabilize the home which is God's first institution on Earth . There are a million videos on YouTube which explains the real agenda of feminizm . Have you seen the trailer for the incredibles 2, there are lots of subliminal messages in the movie . Satan is trying to create a world of weak feminised men and powerful Women in rebellion to God's order . Google " girl power " and " boy power " you will see the results . Its a Shame Chimamanda is a pawn in these schemes

I have been to the UK and I have been to France and many other European countries. It is not normal to slap men there.

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by Nobody: 12:33pm On Apr 25, 2018
prechbills1:
I keep thanking God that Hillary Rodham Clinton didn't win that election...

and to Chimamanda
She's Mrs not Ms...

Come back to Africa and start campaigning against the payment of bride price because I don't see any reason why I should pay money before marrying you and won't see you as a "lesser" human. I'd surely take you for a commodity.

To the monkeys that will/may quote me out of context, ;I'm a stunch feminist.




Other foods for thought;

Because a lady is ruling the UK, females are treated like gods there.

As a lady you slap a man in his ass without his consent and you'd be praised for it. You won't be jailed because of useless excuses like; oh she was only playing with him, it's a lie, oh she's pregnant, oh she has kids.
As a man you slap a lady in her ass without her consent and you'd be imprisoned or sued.
That's exactly what's happening in places like Britain, Germany and USA right now.

What's gonna happen if a lady is allowed to rule Nigeria today
men will be treated like dogs.

I pray I never become a President some day, because if I do, any lady that falsely accuses someone of rape, sexual harrasment and molestation will spend their entire lives in jail.


Why should a man be the one to lose more in a case of divorce?
We are in a world where women can't build homes, only men build homes and women move in freely.
Women are always awarded custody of children.


Women are more favoured than men in very very many things yet I pity the men don't complain, even if they do some people still call them "weak".



Like I said earlier I pray I don't become a President... that's all I got to say..


Quote me and answer yourself

Nonsense!
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by Dico4G: 12:34pm On Apr 25, 2018
kaorama:


Back then in UNN, the Priest in the campus catholic chapel warned her parents to call her to order after she challenged, in writing, the Priest's teachings on morality. She is Mrs know-it-all.
that's courage my dear which ppll like you don't have
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by CSTR1003: 12:38pm On Apr 25, 2018
Sterope:
Which Michelle Obama is this? shocked


Which other Michelle Obama do you know?
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by Onisokuso1(m): 12:45pm On Apr 25, 2018
Sunnycliff:
Is she no longer Mrs. Clinton? Why the use of Ms. Clinton? Are they divorced or is this still a subtle way of preaching her feminism?

Chimamanda! Answer me o

Same way I kept wondering too . Why Ms. is she divorced ? angry
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by openmine(m): 12:47pm On Apr 25, 2018
Sterope:

Who made the rules and requirements of marriage?
Who did God make the head of the home?
Who made man the leader of the house?
I guess its the woman? right? smh


Sterope:

Did your ancestors ever had a surname?
Do U even know who Ur ancestors were?

Sterope:

Where is it written in the Bible and the Qur'an that a married woman must take her husband's surname?
Can't speak for the Quran beliefs....I guess they have guidelines but ponder on these questions....
Was there anything called "dating" in the bible?
Was there also a part in the bible where exchange of wedding rings were required in a marriage?
Was there a scripture in the bible that required a lady to wear an all white gown while the guy is on his black tuxs?
These are guidelines and requirements for a typical Christian marriage and if U have an issue or against it,den find some one who thinks like U.....then get "married" the way both of U want it to be....Don't be a judge in a person's choice..

Sterope:

It is a western culture. Have you so lost your way that you now worship a white man's marital culture?

Without the western culture am sure U will be in a jungle,half naked chasing bush rats for lunch by now...or being a 5th wife to a prominent hunter in ur villa....
The same west brought good things to the world and society but also brought terrible things too....

...as much as we admire and remain grateful for the positives from western culture,Not every thing offered by the west should be acceptable!

Just because the western culture brought about good things to our society doesn't also mean it can wake up one morning and alter their lifestyle and expect others to assimilate them!

I guess we should start accepting bestiality since its already a norm in the west!

Sterope:

Isn't it hypocritical that one minute you are shouting our culture and the next you are eroding it? Do you know that once upon a time in the western world women did not take their husbands' names. It is an innovation. Put your hand where your mouth is, make your ancestors proud and say no to westernisation of African culture grin.

lol....Not hypocritical but common sense!
there will always be a blend or balance in cultures...
Not everything from the west is bad and not everything that emanated from Africa is terrible....
There are some Very recommendable African "practices" that are still relevant in our society just like that of the west....
Its my choice to know which one best suits me based on my morals and ideologies!


Sterope:

In my culture, a child is identified by her father not her husband or wife.

Does ur use of 'identification' in ur culture also include or imply that U will also use Ur dad's surname even after U have been married?
.its imperative that u tell ur future hubby that U intend not to change ur name if U finally get married to him....

If he accepts,then that's not my problem but if he doesn't, then don't judge him or call him names....

Sterope:

You should be glad we are not asking the child to take her mother's name. That should be enough for you.

That's not up to U to decide....Like i said....All these are unnecessary noise cos U wont mind getting ur future hubby's name.....

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by LeSulk(m): 12:59pm On Apr 25, 2018
Chukazu:
" Adirom agba egwu ka m data ego."


what does that mean though?



She needs Data for her phone? undecided


Back to the topic.

Her problem was that Hillary Clinton used such to describe herself while her husband Bill Clinton didn't reciprocate same.

Literally means "She's not dancing to make money"

Figuratively means "She's not airing her opinion in order to earn an applause"
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by prechbills1(m): 1:14pm On Apr 25, 2018
Mindfulness:


Nonsense!

sorry you're not important.
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by Lawal1470(m): 1:24pm On Apr 25, 2018
Chimamanda 's world could be likened to Afolayan' s Movie TITILED FIGURINE (ARAROMIRE), which the gods gives all for seven years and takes it all back after seven years... I believe her time is up, she has been hitting the nail for some times now, and its time the nail hits back the hammer .. It takes only a little mistake to falter. She better becareful before they trash her like a pack of cards. My people go say, when God won punish you. Solder go beat you finish con leave you to go, you climb bike con shout your father, unfortunately your bike no con start.. You are in deep shit

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by Nobody: 1:27pm On Apr 25, 2018
TheLordIsGr8:



Hillary has the same right. She questioned Hillary's right to express herself the way she wants to that's why are need to question her as well.

Hope the logic is not over your head.
She did not Abuse Hillary!

DJHANDSOME:
of course people have the right to say they are upset with other people's opinion, but throwing insults just because you don't agree is unfortunately something Nigerians are well known for. Somebody even called her 'mentally deranged' imagine!
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by Daeylar(f): 1:33pm On Apr 25, 2018
I understand her far better now, nice that she defended herself, I wondered why Chimamanda would try to control how another woman chooses to address herself. That's controlling what a woman chooses to do with her life and not something feminism endorses

But it seems it was a personal conversation between her and Hilliary, seems they were close enough to have that kind of conversation which is why Adichie went for it., I would wonder too why someone would address herself as wife on twitter., especially if the husband doesn't do the same, they both talked about it. understood each other, and moved on,

The problem is when the media and people decided to carry the matter on their head and jump into issues they didn't understand,
it was very good of Chimamamda to clear the air.

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by Daeylar(f): 1:40pm On Apr 25, 2018
Imagine this trash?
Look at weak men claming to be strong. So your pathetic strength is based on how you can bend and manipulate the female gender to your will. Without giving a thought to the choice of the woman.

How can your strength or the strength of a man be based on if your wife chooses to answer your name or not?
Or you conveniently forgot she has a choice to choose to answer your name or not?

Instead of you to respect that she has the choice to answer your name or not, and respect the fact that some women choose not to, and it doesn't make the man weak or has any reflection on the man. You are here yarning dust.

Be the weak ass man you are and stop trying to put your weakness on how far your can go in your control of Women, that is a weak man's move.
And as the weak man you are, here you are hating on a man far stronger than you.

Nonsense.

eezeribe:
Chimamanda can dissect Hillary Clinton as much as she likes;but one thing remains certain,the likes of Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama will forever remain more highly rated than Ngozi Adichie...
Hillary Clinton is a proud WIFE of former US president and one of the most influential men in the world,Bill Clinton;
while Chimamanda remains the wife of a nobody,a man who is so weak that his wife can't even bear his surname.
I have nothing against TRUE FEMINISM,but there is a thin line between COMMON SENSE and NONSENSE.

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by openmine(m): 2:09pm On Apr 25, 2018
Daeylar:
Imagine this trash?
Look at weak men claming to be strong. So your pathetic strength is based on how you can bend and manipulate the female gender to your will. Without giving a thought to the choice of the woman.

How can your strength or the strength of a man be based on if your wife chooses to answer your name or not?
Or you conveniently forgot she has a choice to choose to answer your name or not?

Instead of you to respect that she has the choice to answer your name or not, and respect the fact that some women choose not to, and it doesn't make the man weak or has any reflection on the man. You are here yarning dust.

Be the weak ass man you are and stop trying to put your weakness on how far your can go in your control of Women, that is a weak man's move.
And as the weak man you are, here you are hating on a man far stronger than you.

Nonsense.

Since U are having an issue bearing the name of ur future hubby....why don't U get someone who thinks with that line of thought....

Why wait until U are married only to tell ur hubby that U won't be addressed with his name but with ur own father's name?

If U have a problem with being labelled by ur Hubby's surname,then marry someone who doesn't see anything wrong about it like others do....but don't judge or condemn anyone who insists on having his wife being called by his last name....or mock a lady who wants to be addressed with her hubby's surname...!

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by ICAMETOWIN(m): 2:17pm On Apr 25, 2018
kaorama:


Back then in UNN, the Priest in the campus catholic chapel warned her parents to call her to order after she challenged, in writing, the Priest's teachings on morality. She is Mrs know-it-all.
she's obviously a nonconformist, I love women with strong opinions
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by bamite(m): 3:09pm On Apr 25, 2018
skarlett:


Your advice has been seen and discarded undecided

I'm just pointing out the obvious fact people around you may not want to tell you. No offence
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by Tozara(m): 4:44pm On Apr 25, 2018
Sterope:
If you are a fan of Clinton, your morality is questionable. undecided
Actually, a person who goes about life putting on a FEMINIST GOGGLE only sees feminism, so everything else is judged from that prism. If you're a feminist, you're good. If you aren't a feminist, you're bad. Everything else doesn't matter. That's why Hillary is her "Hero".
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by Nobody: 4:48pm On Apr 25, 2018
bamite:


I'm just pointing out the obvious fact people around you may not want to tell you. No offence

I don't take the advice of cowards with no faces about how I look so you can shove your 'inoffensive opinion' down where the sun doesn't shine.

P's:

Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by DexterousOne(m): 7:36pm On Apr 25, 2018
openmine:

Well u have already stated ur reasons for retaining her name...which is ur opinion though I may have my reservations but then I totally respect it...
However am very sure aside her coming from a famous or well known family,U are also prepared for the consequences of her not taking ur last name....
I don't need to state them...The future will tell!

Which kind consequence?

Joke Silva and Olu Jacobs have been married for donkey years


Boris Kodjoe and Nicole Parker have been married for donkey years too


Wendy Williams is another example


Examoles abound of this.


As I said before, I personally don't mind of she keeps the surname.

it's a little issue, no big deal.
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by DexterousOne(m): 7:41pm On Apr 25, 2018
Mindfulness:


I have been to the UK and I have been to France and many other European countries. It is not normal to slap men there.
help me tell them o I wonder where they get all these things from?

besides, all these reeks of insecurity sha, so I'm not surprised at all

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by DexterousOne(m): 7:43pm On Apr 25, 2018
oyb:




i agree for a simple reason; yes to my family i may be known as husband/father, but that is not how I am presented to the world. No one who goes into a meeting, or a social gathering is introduced as husband/father. introductions are tied to hierarchical positions and social standing.

there is no social standing in being a husband or father, as most males are in these roles. unfortunately though, the more backward/misognyistic the society, the more standing is assigned to being a wife/mother, a role that most women are also in.

i am much more than a husband/father - and women are also much more than wife/mother. if a persons sole or most notable purpose in life is to marry and bear children, then that is a real problem ; and anyone supporting that is not much better than the saudi's they would be vilifying on other threads

You hit the nail on the head.

keyword: The more backward and misogynist a society (or subgroup community) is.....


Nigeria comes to mind here
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by openmine(m): 7:55pm On Apr 25, 2018
DexterousOne:


Which kind consequence?

Joke Silva and Olu Jacobs have been married for donkey years


Boris Kodjoe and Nicole Parker have been married for donkey years too


Wendy Williams is another example


Examoles abound of this.


As I said before, I personally don't mind of she keeps the surname.

it's a little issue, no big deal.
Marriage 101 lessons: Never Compare ur relationship or marriage with that of another couple!

Just because joke Silva and olu jacobs have not separated or divorced doesn't imply that all is well....

Do u stay in the same apartment with them to know if all is well?

Like I said....its ur choice!
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by DexterousOne(m): 7:59pm On Apr 25, 2018
openmine:

Marriage 101 lessons: Never Compare ur relationship or marriage with that of another couple!

Just because joke Silva and olu jacobs have not separated or divorced doesn't imply that all is well....

Do u stay in the same apartment with them to know if all is well?

Like I said....its ur choice!

I agree.

that's why when people say Amanda is a bad wife bla bla bla

how do they know

do they stay in the same apartment to know that all is well?

you get the drift?
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by Nobody: 8:18pm On Apr 25, 2018
Sunnycliff:
Is she no longer Mrs. Clinton? Why the use of Ms. Clinton? Are they divorced or is this still a subtle way of preaching her feminism?

Chimamanda! Answer me o

Just like Mr is a neutral name for males whether single or married, Ms is a neutral name for females whether single or married.
I hope Nigeria adopts this style soon. I mean if men aren't called something different due to their relationship status, why shouldn't it apply to females?
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by Leitner: 10:44pm On Apr 25, 2018
oyb:


why not? meet please meet himmler son , male chauvinist, neoconservative.

yep, that sounds about right

especially in nigeria where we are title obsessed. are you a chief, a doctor, a lawyer?

well, whatever, you are a son, then later husband first.

so it makes perfect sense that i address you as son

Just stop abeg, you're not making any sense .

Do people call Hillary, wife Clinton coz wife's on her twitter bio?. Your analogy is flawed.

And back to the main point. Hillary has decided to put wife on her Bio because ::

1) Hillary's ACTUALLY a wife- married to Bill . So case 1: it's not like she's lying about who she's not. She has not called her self Superman

2) A wife has a duty in a family setting, just like a husband, child, Aunt etc also have.
Hillary has felt she has perform her duty really well ( whether it's washing plate, telling your husband to cook,giving your husband good advice or whatever) and she feels she should flaunt her accomplishments ALONG WITH OTHER ACCOMPLISHMENTS which she has in other areas of her life. Case 2 :: Hillary's DECIDED to flaunt her ACCOMPLISHMENTS.


Now what Adichie is trying to do and also one of the things which most FEMINISTS have been trying to do is UNDERMINE THE INSTITUTION CALLED MARRIAGE. She's trying to say Hillary can flaunt her achievements in other fields but can't flaunt her achievement in marriage, all coz she's a WOMAN. To me, Adichie is a misogynist trying to force an individual to decide what she deems fit to flaunt or not . If she feels she's had a hand in making who Bill Clinton was, then she should be allowed to flaunt it!! Adichie lacks critical reasoning.

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by Leitner: 11:01pm On Apr 25, 2018
Mindfulness:


I have been to the UK and I have been to France and many other European countries. It is not normal to slap men there.
Stop trying to be clever by half.
it's common knowledge that cases of physical attack by a perpetrator is treated differently depending on the gender.

was watching a documentary recently (US). A guy reported a case of physical attack by his wife. The police got there and told him he's alright and "you better get out of there fast coz once there's as little as a scratch on that woman ( probably even in the case of struggling), we are arresting you". Imagine!!

There are also many other cases like this i.e downplaying attacks by women and aggressive clamp down in Men when they are the perpetrators.

cases of custody, child support, abortion,pay gap etc are another thing.

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie Responds To Critics On Hillary Clinton’s Twitter Bio Question by sholay2011(m): 11:33pm On Apr 25, 2018
oyb:




i agree for a simple reason; yes to my family i may be known as husband/father, but that is not how I am presented to the world. No one who goes into a meeting, or a social gathering is introduced as husband/father. introductions are tied to hierarchical positions and social standing.

there is no social standing in being a husband or father, as most males are in these roles. unfortunately though, the more backward/misognyistic the society, the more standing is assigned to being a wife/mother, a role that most women are also in.

i am much more than a husband/father - and women are also much more than wife/mother. if a persons sole or most notable purpose in life is to marry and bear children, then that is a real problem ; and anyone supporting that is not much better than the saudi's they would be vilifying on other threads
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