Martz101:


that's a hall mark of a bad manager, you don't come out after losing and say to the media that one player didn't play to instruction.

you think all players have been playing to Rohr instructions??

Keshi wasn't losing when he said it. No general will go to battle with an insurbodinate soldier, no matter how good they are

Martz101:


get your fact right, he was dropped after zambia match

Actually, you should be the one getting your facts right. We didnt lose to Zambia. and he started the next match against Ethiopia

tglobal:


Only two coaches in the in the history of Nigerian football have won both the nations cup and taken us to the second round of the world cup FACT (as forgiveness will say)

One took five years to achieve the feat, the other took 2. FACT

One had the support of the 2nd citizen of the land, the other achieved his feat despite limited support from his employers,sometimes without pay. FACT!

One did it with the best African players on Europe, the other did it with relatively unknown players (definitely not the best in Africa and not the best in Nigeria as you are quick to point out). FACT!

Which one of the two was the better coach? EOD

Please tell us why this coach should not be revered and give us the names of those who have achieved more for the national team with the same resources at their disposal? FACT

cc:forgiveness

so because di mateo won the champions league, he becomes a good coach??

let's respect keshi, his dead

Nedville:
If you watch the FIFA world cup pop up channel S14 on dstv, the FIFA world cup documentaries, you'll realise with the stories told....there is a feeling that the spirit of football has followed certain countries...Brazil Germany italy, it recently smiled on France and then Spain. Nigeria does not even come close in terms of the total world cup teams in history in who the spirit has followed

if God of football refuses to come to us, we go to him/ her/it

ChrisKels:
Aina's snub already yeilding bad fruit as Anglo Nigerian trio vow to turn down Nigeria if approached and their fear is that they might be treated like their colleague Aina.

Tom Dele Bashiru who once opted to rep Nigeria, lukas Nmecha, Tosin Adarabioyo and others are the ones listed for now who have vowed to turn down the NFF due to how poorly Aina was treated.

It should also send a signal to them that once being invited is not an automatic shirt.

They should go and try their luck with the 3 Lions then.

Good luck to them.

tglobal:


Only two coaches in the in the history of Nigerian football have won both the nations cup and taken us to the second round of the world cup FACT (as forgiveness will say)

One took five years to achieve the feat, the other took 2. FACT

One had the support of the 2nd citizen of the land, the other achieved his feat despite limited support from his employers,sometimes without pay. FACT!

One did it with the best African players on Europe, the other did it with relatively unknown players (definitely not the best in Africa and not the best in Nigeria as you are quick to point out). FACT!

Which one of the two was the better coach? EOD

Please tell us why this coach should not be revered and give us the names of those who have achieved more for the national team with the same resources at their disposal? FACT

cc:forgiveness

Those two bolded points are factually not correct.

President Jonathan was behind Keshi. Fact

Are Mikel, Onazi, Echiejile, Ike Uche, Emenike, Ideye, Victor Moses etetera relatively unknown players? I don't think so. Fact

tglobal:


Only two coaches in the in the history of Nigerian football have won both the nations cup and taken us to the second round of the world cup FACT (as forgiveness will say)

One took five years to achieve the feat, the other took 2. FACT

One had the support of the 2nd citizen of the land, the other achieved his feat despite limited support from his employers,sometimes without pay. FACT!

One did it with the best African players on Europe, the other did it with relatively unknown players (definitely not the best in Africa and not the best in Nigeria as you are quick to point out). FACT!

Which one of the two was the better coach? EOD

Please tell us why this coach should not be revered and give us the names of those who have achieved more for the national team with the same resources at their disposal? FACT

cc:forgiveness

Those two bolded points are factually not correct.

President Jonathan was behind Keshi. Fact

Are Mikel, Onazi, Echiejile, Ike Uche, Emenike, Ideye, Victor Moses etetera relatively unknown players? I don't think so. Fact

Martz101:


so because di mateo won the champions league, he becomes a good coach??

let's respect keshi, his dead

How did Di Mateo win the champions league? Negative football

How did Keshi win AFCON 2013? You know the answer

Still waiting for you to tell me why he is not the most successful Nigerian coach yet?

forgiveness:


Oya! show me. Osisio!

it won't be easy to dig that out

Martz101:


it won't be easy to dig that out

Den you don't have a case. Case closed. EOD

forgiveness:

Show me where I was against the invitation of Iwobi. Simple

this guy go sabi lie o

tglobal:


Keshi wasn't losing when he said it. No general will go to battle with an insurbodinate soldier, no matter how good they are

he was no dey argue, the rift started after zambia lost

forgiveness:



Those two bolded points are factually not correct.

President Jonathan was behind Keshi. Fact

Are Mikel, Onazi, Echiejile, Ike Uche, Emenike, Ideye, Victor Moses etetera relatively unknown players? I don't think so. Fact

Jonathan's support came after AFCON title. FACT

if the bolded is true, why accuse him of improper player selection?

tglobal:


Actually, you should be the one getting your facts right. We didnt lose to Zambia. and he started the next match against Ethiopia

sorry thw draw, but that was were the problem started

tglobal:


How did Di Mateo win the champions league? Negative football

How did Keshi win AFCON 2013? You know the answer

Still waiting for you to tell me why he is not the most successful Nigerian coach yet?

who are you to determine what is negative and positive in football??

since you were looking at keshi from were he got in a competition but you choose to tell me di mateo was negative, oga go rest abeg.

Martz101:


this guy go sabi lie o

This is becoming Drama...... LOL! You volunteer yourself as a Witness, he asked for the Evidence, you couldn't present the Evidence coz you are too lazy to dig out for it.

Alas! You come into Conclusion that he's a Liar - another Allegation?! LMAO!

You know in a competent Court of Law, your Testimony is DOA?! Besides you've committed Perjury?!

gent have won the race to take liverpool's taiwo awoniyi on a one year loan deal beating paok and anderlecht on the process. good move i must say!

Icon4s:


It should also send a signal to them that once being invited is not an automatic shirt.

They should go and try their luck with the 3 Lions then.

Good luck to them.

`

Abi

Because they are foreign born doesn't mean they will be given preferential treatment

Martz101:


this guy go sabi lie o

LMAO. hahahahhahha!

Abeg no kill me here.

I was never against the invitation of any FB including Iwobi and I can boldly tell you that 98% of monikers in this thread and the other thread BOLDLY AGAINST the idea of FB players who have not distinguished themselves in their clubs be given a call to the National team which I agured against.

That was where I started having arguments and disputes against majority of them here.

Ebuehi and Brian where players 98% of this monikers fought against me when I first brought them to the attention of this thread.

So, why should I against what I fought for?

Maybe this days, I don tire for such scouting because I can see some doing the good job hence my retirement from scouting FB.

Oasis007:




This is becoming Drama...... LOL! You volunteer yourself as a Witness, he asked for the Evidence, you couldn't present the Evidence coz you are too lazy to dig out for it.

Alas! You come into Conclusion that he's a Liar - another Allegation?! LMAO!

You know in a competent Court of Law, your Testimony is DOA?! Besides you've committed Perjury?!

Hahahahaha! see me see trouble oooo.

Oasis007:




This is becoming Drama...... LOL! You volunteer yourself as a Witness, he asked for the Evidence, you couldn't present the Evidence coz you are too lazy to dig out for it.

Alas! You come into Conclusion that he's a Liar - another Allegation?! LMAO!

You know in a competent Court of Law, your Testimony is DOA?! Besides you've committed Perjury?!

Mujtahida where are you?Pls your attention is needed here.

tglobal:



Jonathan's support came after AFCON title. FACT

if the bolded is true, why accuse him of improper player selection?

No! it was during the tournament. Fact.

Because the bench was jam packed with efulefu players while he destroyed the national football career of some players.

darkelf:
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Abi

Because they are foreign born doesn't mean they will be given preferential treatment

Exactly! If people complain he was treated poorly, what would they say of Eze and Agbo who were not given a chance at all?

Nedville:
Nigerians.......
We simply don't have the players to compete in this tournament, in addition the god of football does not care about us and other African countries....
Don't condemn the players before we have even kicked a ball....let's just be hopeful that god of football smiles on us and other African teams...to finally reach the semi final or final....fate has not been kind to us at all

I beg to disagree with you on that bro

African has not performed excellently at the world stage because of bad leadership and corrupt sports administrators

God is fair. If anything, a nation of 180 million people like Nigeria has produced talents that were not harnessed. The environment is not conducive and even soccer agents are greed personified

Stephen Keshi was never a Scam, rather a Nigerian Hero and African Legend. He won the AFCON against all Odds.

He gave a Life to the Nigerian League, made us believe there are talented Players in the League, though Raw but with little Polishing - they are bound to Shine beyond the Realm.

Within two Years 2004 - 2006, surprisingly he qualified Togo for their first ever Appearance in FIFA World Cup - 2 Years I repeat.

He also had Stints at Mali, qualified them for the AFCON 2010. We ain't celebrating him because he's ours. We were accusing him up and down because he's a Nigerian, a black Man.

Didn't Rohr had Stints with Africa Countries before Nigeria?! Didn't he fail and release from his Duty unceremoniously as a Coach of Burkina Faso National Team?!

Burkina Faso is more a footballing Nation than Togo. Keshi brought the Togolese National Team to the World Map, Rohr failed at Burkina Faso - still the Former is a Scam while the latter is a god.

ChrisKels:



I'm looking forward to see these four midfielders break out next season with the their respective senior teams.

KC Nwakali Arsenal or any reputable club in Europe's top five leagues

Tosin kehinde ; ManU or any reputable club in Europe's top five leagues

Ebere Eze ; Tottenham or any reputable club in any of Europe's top five leagues

Musa yahaya ; Porto or any reputable club in any of Europe's top five leagues

Kingsley Michael; Bologna or any reputable club in any of Europe's top five leagues

Ovie Ejaria ; Rangers

Tom Dele Bashiru ; Mancity or any reputable club in any of Europe's top five leagues

The recent craze for emerging foreign based talents with Nigeria/African roots will impact negatively on local talents and football development in Nigeria and Africa. I hope the football authorities prioritise football development, local talent search and the development of these kids. It will inevitably spell doom to sports development in general focusing attention on foreign based talents when less could be spent developing and harnessing the potentials back home.

Without serious investment and committed development in the league, Nigeria league especially will be seen as a platform for players to escape to Europe even Sudan, South Africa and North Africa. You will see a player blossom one season and the next season, he will disappear and waste in one obscure league abroad.

It is embarrassing watching people argue about the root and parentage of certain players. It was even more shameful watching fans booing Dele Alli over his choice and decision to play for England. What happened to your league? What happened to your primary school, secondary school sports competitions and the talents that emerge from there? What happened to the academies?

Countries invest significant amount of finance developing facilities, clubs invest in these kids teaching them the rudiments of the game by providing them with well qualified coaches, provision of standard football pitches and gears only for the likes of Pinnick and co to circle and hover around them like scavengers once the investments start yielding fruits. With all the kids coming out, be aware that not all of them will have what it takes to excel and be successful playing for countries like Nigerian national team, its the bitter reality. There will be the Ainas, Aluko who would not be selected in the final event. Being born abroad should not be a guarantee for invitation to the national team.

I watched and witnessed the Athletic federation of Nigeria invite and have American citizens naturalised and represent Nigeria in the Edinburgh common wealth games and it filled me with bitterness. Some of these athletes esp the sprinters struggle to run 100m in 10.10secs. All of them performed woefully in the US qualifications but Nigeria found them worthy to wear the green white green in an international events! How sad.

What are the north Africans doing differently? Can't that be replicated? Are those countries richer than Nigeria? Your best league players leave Nigeria league for any of the north African league before signing lucrative contract with a European team. Who reaps the rewards. A Nigeria football league player would first of all attend trials in Europe before being signed for a paltry sum and when that is signed, there are always fights and acrimonies between the parent clubs and the football bodies but it does not happen like that when a north African team is involved.

I expect to see all the football experts talking about these and proffering solutions but no you,d rather see them arguing and lamenting that a certain boy with a Nigerian name was playing for the same country that invested and believed in him to excel. You,d expect to see people here discussing the good players in the league and the possibilities of them breaking into the Eagles team but no they,d rather boast of acquiring countless coaching certificates with zero knowledge of what football management is all about.

Nedville:
If you watch the FIFA world cup pop up channel S14 on dstv, the FIFA world cup documentaries, you'll realise with the stories told....there is a feeling that the spirit of football has followed certain countries...Brazil Germany italy, it recently smiled on France and then Spain. Nigeria does not even come close in terms of the total world cup teams in history in who the spirit has followed

Proverbs 17:28

krattoss:
if God of football refuses to come to us, we go to him/ her/it

If that is the case, other countries who haven't won would have gone to meet the god of football nah....its simple, we no reach....
I thank our coach for all he has done so far....I wish we got some of those foreign left backs

forgiveness:


No! it was during the tournament. Fact.

Because the bench was jam packed with efulefu players while he destroyed the national football career of some players.

What saved his job was the victory over CIV. FACT

Herve Renhard was already approached to take over his job. FACT

It was his resignation stunt after the victory that got him on Jonathan's side. FACT

Despite Jonathan's support, he was still owed and his backroom staff fired against his wishes FACT

My people I need help!

I've gotten so addicted that iwobi's magical killer pass to Ighalo against England. I just can't stop checking it out every now and then.

Any tips to get over it?

TheGoodJoe:


Alaba was popular in media but not enough to merit a Super Eagles call up. Iwobi was not 17 when he debuted for us. So I wonder why you are bringing that up. Also an Arsenal academy player has more popularity than an Austria Wein player. Alaba also made his debut for the Austrian National team before he played for the main team of Bayern. Not our fault in any way.

Did Iwobi play for the main Arsenal team before he made his debut for Nigeria?

Who told you Alaba was an Austria Wein's player when he made his debut for Austria National team?

It is very you know nada about the situation then because you never followed it. You are just relying on GOOGLE.

Alaba made rave because he was in Bayern Munich second team and trained with the first team as at the time he made his debut for the Austrian National Team. GBAM. EOD

Google don fail you this time around.