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Re: Ademoyega Was The Cordinator Of The 1966 Ibo Coup? by Katsumoto: 8:45pm On Oct 11, 2010
Dede1:

The grandiose denial of the fact that January 15, 1966 cut across the ethnic divide within Nigeria has degenerated to sorry state of who killed who. A person does not need to kill or own the responsibility of killing a targeted interest to become a leader or coordinator of a coup.

Whether Ademoyega killed a target or not, the fact remains Ademoyega was one of the architects of January 15, 1966 coup.

Yet people forgot it was Captain Waribor who shot Ahmadu Bello.


It was Nzeogwu who killed Bello, at least according to the official police report

151. NA 502342 Cpl. Yakubu Kaje of 3rd BN NA reports that, at a given moment, he observed a civilian coming out of the Lodge armed with a sword. The corporal and the men with him stopped the civilian and ordered him to drop the sword. At this moment, according to the corporal, Major Nzeogwu arrived on the scene and asked the civilian, in Hausa, for the whereabouts of the "master of the house". The man replied that he did not know, whereupon Major Nzeogwu threatened to kill him unless he led him to his master. The man then agreed and led Major Nzeogwu to the back of the building. A shortwhile afterwards, the corporal states, he heard a number of shots fired. Assuming that Kaje is telling the truth, it is probable that the Sardauna of Sokoto died at that moment.

152. Cpl. Kaje has further reported that when the firing ceased, Major Nzeogwu came from the compound and was met at the gate by 2/Lt. Waribor, who asked the Major: "Did you get the man?", to which Nzeogwu answered, "Yes". When Major Nzeogwu left the compound he stated for all to hear, exultantly, "I have been successful, he is dead".

I await your version that can be backed up.
Re: Ademoyega Was The Cordinator Of The 1966 Ibo Coup? by Dede1(m): 9:14pm On Oct 11, 2010
Katsumoto:

It was Nzeogwu who killed Bello, at least according to the official police report

151. NA 502342 Cpl. Yakubu Kaje of 3rd BN NA reports that, at a given moment, he observed a civilian coming out of the Lodge armed with a sword. The corporal and the men with him stopped the civilian and ordered him to drop the sword. At this moment, according to the corporal, Major Nzeogwu arrived on the scene and asked the civilian, in Hausa, for the whereabouts of the "master of the house". The man replied that he did not know, whereupon Major Nzeogwu threatened to kill him unless he led him to his master. The man then agreed and led Major Nzeogwu to the back of the building. A shortwhile afterwards, the corporal states, he heard a number of shots fired. Assuming that Kaje is telling the truth, it is probable that the Sardauna of Sokoto died at that moment.

152. Cpl. Kaje has further reported that when the firing ceased, Major Nzeogwu came from the compound and was met at the gate by 2/Lt. Waribor, who asked the Major: "Did you get the man?", to which Nzeogwu answered, "Yes". When Major Nzeogwu left the compound he stated for all to hear, exultantly, "I have been successful, he is dead".

I await your version that can be backed up.

Katsumoto, for the sake of argument, did you believe this conjectural crap? Reading this junk, I came across that Maj Nzeogwu went into the gated compound alone without his boys. And when Nzeogwu shot Bello, he walked back to the gate of the compound where Waribor asked his superior “Did you get the man”.  Why was Waribor designated to lead the team of soldiers to arrest or shot the Premier of Northern region of Nigeria if his duty was to stand behind a gated compound?

Sometimes you disappoint me big time!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Ademoyega Was The Cordinator Of The 1966 Ibo Coup? by Katsumoto: 9:20pm On Oct 11, 2010
Dede1:

Katsumoto, for the sake of argument, did you believe this conjectural crap? Reading this junk, I came across that Maj Nzeogwu went into the gated compound alone without his boys. And when Nzeogwu shot Bello, he walked back to the gate of the compound where Waribor asked his superior “Did you get the man”.  Why was Waribor designated to lead the team of soldiers to arrest or shot the Premier of Northern region of Nigeria if his duty was to stand behind a gated compound?

Sometimes you disappoint me big time!!!!!!!!!!!!

Take it easy men. grin grin

Why not share your own sources. You state Waribor shot Bello; I assume you weren't there. So where did you get your information from?
Re: Ademoyega Was The Cordinator Of The 1966 Ibo Coup? by T9ksy(m): 9:23pm On Oct 11, 2010
Posted by: Dede1
The grandiose denial of the fact that January 15, 1966 cut across the ethnic divide within Nigeria has degenerated to sorry state of who killed who.

Una don start again, huh. which ethnic divide are u reffering to? The inner circle of the coupists comprises of one yoruba and four Igbo Majors. And this constitute your idea of "cutting across the ethnic divide within the country"? I beg, carry go jo with your twisting all logic on its head, ojare. Its a pity/coincidence that the killings didn't "cut across the ethnic divide within the country"  grin


A person does not need to kill or own the responsibility of killing a targeted interest to become a leader or coordinator of a coup

Here we go, again. No way could Ademoyega be made to wear the toga of "leader of the coup". Yeah, he was the co-ordinator but that does not make him the "leader". To put it bluntly, what influence does one yoruba major have over four igbo majors, two of whom (Nzeogwu and Ifeajunna) were his senior in rank. He was the last major to be recruited and at the eleventh hr so by no stretch of the imagination can Ademoyega be conferred with that hideous title "leader".
Onibara  e nba ole bo. Your beggar is surreptitiously morphing into an armed bandit!!!  



Whether Ademoyega killed a target or not, the fact remains Ademoyega was one of the architects of January 15, 1966 coup.

Another fallacy. Major Ifeajunna was the original creator of the coup. Ademoyega was recruited at the last minute, probably as an afterthought to give a semblance of the coup "cutting across the ethnic divide within the country".


Yet people forgot it was Captain Waribor who shot Ahmadu Bello.

source pls grin
The Police report stated differently.
Re: Ademoyega Was The Cordinator Of The 1966 Ibo Coup? by Dede1(m): 9:29pm On Oct 11, 2010
Pal, I heard you on the “take it easy” part. grin grin The team designated to arrest or possible shoot Premier of Northern region of Nigeria in my book killed Bello.
Re: Ademoyega Was The Cordinator Of The 1966 Ibo Coup? by T9ksy(m): 9:33pm On Oct 11, 2010
Posted by: Katsumoto
Why not share your own sources. You state Waribor shot Bello; I assume you weren't there. So where did you get your information from?

He probably heard it from Chief Matthew Mbu who was told by Waribor that he in fact shot Bello, dead. grin
Bloody inept revisionists!!!
Re: Ademoyega Was The Cordinator Of The 1966 Ibo Coup? by Katsumoto: 9:34pm On Oct 11, 2010
T9ksy:

Posted by: Dede1
Una don start again, huh. which ethnic divide are u reffering to? The inner circle of the coupists comprises of one yoruba and four Igbo Majors. And this constitute your idea of "cutting across the ethnic divide within the country"? I beg, carry go jo with your twisting all logic on its head, ojare. Its a pity/coincidence that the killings didn't "cut across the ethnic divide within the country"  grin


Here we go, again. No way could Ademoyega be made to wear the toga of "leader of the coup". Yeah, he was the co-ordinator but that does not make him the "leader". To put it bluntly, what influence does one yoruba major have over four igbo majors, two of whom (Nzeogwu and Ifeajunna) were his senior in rank. He was the last major to be recruited and at the eleventh hr so by no stretch of the imagination can Ademoyega be conferred with that hideous title "leader".
Onibara  e nba ole bo. Your beggar is surreptitiously morphing into an armed bandit!!!  



Another fallacy. Major Ifeajunna was the original creator of the coup. Ademoyega was recruited at the last minute, probably as an afterthought to give a semblance of the coup "cutting across the ethnic divide within the country".


source pls grin
The Police report stated differently.


There were 8 majors and 1 captain. Ademoyega was the only non-Igbo. just stating the facts.

You are right about when Ademoyega was recruited; he was recruited October/November of 65. He was recruited by Nzeogwu who was himself recruited a month or two before Ademoyega.
Re: Ademoyega Was The Cordinator Of The 1966 Ibo Coup? by Dede1(m): 10:01pm On Oct 11, 2010
T9ksy:

Posted by: Katsumoto
He probably heard it from Chief Matthew Mbu who was told by Waribor that he in fact shot Bello, dead. grin
Bloody inept revisionists!!!

T9ksy:

Posted by: Dede1
Una don start again, huh. which ethnic divide are u reffering to? The inner circle of the coupists comprises of one yoruba and four Igbo Majors. And this constitute your idea of "cutting across the ethnic divide within the country"? I beg, carry go jo with your twisting all logic on its head, ojare. Its a pity/coincidence that the killings didn't "cut across the ethnic divide within the country"  grin


Here we go, again. No way could Ademoyega be made to wear the toga of "leader of the coup". Yeah, he was the co-ordinator but that does not make him the "leader". To put it bluntly, what influence does one yoruba major have over four igbo majors, two of whom (Nzeogwu and Ifeajunna) were his senior in rank. He was the last major to be recruited and at the eleventh hr so by no stretch of the imagination can Ademoyega be conferred with that hideous title "leader".
Onibara  e nba ole bo. Your beggar is surreptitiously morphing into an armed bandit!!! 



Another fallacy. Major Ifeajunna was the original creator of the coup. Ademoyega was recruited at the last minute, probably as an afterthought to give a semblance of the coup "cutting across the ethnic divide within the country".


source pls grin
The Police report stated differently.




I do not know why Nigerians call IBB master schemer. The title should perfectly fit your persona. grin grin Nobody insinuates Ademoyega was the leader of the January 15, 1966 coup. However, it is an apparent act of intellectual dishonesty to arrogate latecomer tag on Ademoyaga. By the way, when did Ademoyega join the January 15, 1966 coup plotters?
Re: Ademoyega Was The Cordinator Of The 1966 Ibo Coup? by Dede1(m): 10:11pm On Oct 11, 2010
Katsumoto:

There were 8 majors and 1 captain. Ademoyega was the only non-Igbo. just stating the facts.

You are right about when Ademoyega was recruited; he was recruited October/November of 65. He was recruited by Nzeogwu who was himself recruited a month or two before Ademoyega.


Would you have been happy if there were more than one Major of Yoruba extraction among the coup plotters? Even if there were six (6) Majors of Yoruba extraction involved in the coup, you would have found a reason to label it an Igbo coup.
Re: Ademoyega Was The Cordinator Of The 1966 Ibo Coup? by Katsumoto: 10:13pm On Oct 11, 2010
Dede1:


Would you have been happy if there were more than one Major of Yoruba extraction among the coup plotters? Even if there were six (6) Majors of Yoruba extraction involved in the coup, you would have found a reason to label it an Igbo coup.

I am only stating facts Dede1. There is no point in discussing what can not happen.
Re: Ademoyega Was The Cordinator Of The 1966 Ibo Coup? by dayokanu(m): 10:37pm On Oct 11, 2010
Dede1:


Would you have been happy if there were more than one Major of Yoruba extraction among the coup plotters? Even if there were six (6) Majors of Yoruba extraction involved in the coup, you would have found a reason to label it an Igbo coup.

Are you trying to tell us this was not an igbo coup? Of the core planners only one was not Igbo and the casualties are Major Political bigwigs from all regions except Igbos.

Maybe if Mbadiwe, Azikwe the premier of the Eastern region or other SE politicians were not Spared/Escaped, It wouldnt have been labelled an Igbo coup
Re: Ademoyega Was The Cordinator Of The 1966 Ibo Coup? by AkinEgba: 10:45pm On Oct 11, 2010
Why We Struck, not Why They Struck. The title of Ademoyega's book tells it all.
Re: Ademoyega Was The Cordinator Of The 1966 Ibo Coup? by T9ksy(m): 10:59pm On Oct 11, 2010
Posted by: Dede1 Today at 08:32:45 PM
A person does not need to kill or own the responsibility of killing a targeted interest to become a leader or coordinator of a coup.  

Posted by: Dede1   Today at 10:01:31PM  

Nobody insinuates Ademoyega was the leader of the January 15, 1966 coup

I certainly didn't. I wonder where the concept came from? grin


Posted by: Dede1  
However, it is an apparent act of intellectual dishonesty to arrogate latecomer tag on Ademoyaga
Oh well, i will say its an act "intellectual dishonesty" to aver otherwise.



Posted by: Dede1  
By the way, when did Ademoyega join the January 15, 1966 coup plotters?

Its a bloody act of intellectual laziness and dishonesty to dispute a "latecomer" tag about Ademoyega 's participation in the coup plots, when you don't even know when he was recruited into the plot and could not even be bothered to find out. So wth are u contesting a claim that you don't know its veracity or otherwise?



Also by: Dede1  
Even if there were six (6) Majors of Yoruba extraction involved in the coup, you would have found a reason to label it an Igbo coup.  


Oh well, the fact of the matter is, there was only (1) Yoruba Major whilst the rest were Igbos. So if the caps fits. IT WAS AN IGBO COUP. grin
Re: Ademoyega Was The Cordinator Of The 1966 Ibo Coup? by bkbabe97y(m): 4:47am On Oct 12, 2010
@Dede1 the inept Revisionist:

11 Chinese Nationals, and One Nigerian get busted for selling counterfeit merchandize, U know how its gonna read in the papers? No? Ok, lemme help u:

"CHINESE GANGSTERS APPREHENDED!!!"
Re: Ademoyega Was The Cordinator Of The 1966 Ibo Coup? by Dede1(m): 8:52pm On Oct 12, 2010
T9ksy:



Posted by: Dede1
Its a bloody act of intellectual laziness and dishonesty to dispute a "latecomer" tag about Ademoyega 's participation in the coup plots, when you don't even know when he was recruited into the plot and could not even be bothered to find out. So wth are u contesting a claim that you don't know its veracity or otherwise?



I am not surprise that latecomer tag on Ademoyega was another side show added to the trail of denial which has engulfed the January 15, 1966. Bearing the unfortunate scheme of academic laziness, one wonders why seemingly bright individuals have failed to shame the act of denial by either reading books titled “Why We Struck” by Ademoyega or Nigeria’s Five Majors” by Gbulie. In fact, I shall not be surprise if peeps from certain section of Nigeria will posit that Ademoyega was not involved with January 15, 1966 coup.

As of July 1965, Ademoyega, Nzeogwu and Ifeajuna have started talking and recruiting officers for the revolution. In his book, Why We Struck, Ademoyega detailed the part he played in the process leading to the coup of January 15, 1966. Ademoyega was not only a coordinator but had a lead voice on who should be recruited. Case in point was the recruitment of Major Donatus Okafor.

Even when Major Timothy Onwuatuegwu gave the names of the foundation members of the intended coup to the Captain Ben Gbulie, he said there were five majors in all; Ifeajuna, Ademoyega, Okafor, Nzeogwu and Anuforo. It was these five majors that gave rise to the title of Ben Gbulie’s book.
Re: Ademoyega Was The Cordinator Of The 1966 Ibo Coup? by laudate: 2:23pm On Apr 16, 2018
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Re: Ademoyega Was The Cordinator Of The 1966 Ibo Coup? by PFRB: 4:00pm On Apr 16, 2018
maxsiollun:
Ademoyega was put in charge of strategic aspects like disrupting communication lines and taking over the police HQ. He also assisted Major Anuforo in leading Okotie-Eboh into the bush to be killed. Ademoyega and Anuoforo pushedOkotie-Eboh into the bush even though he was pleading and begging for his life. Anuforo then shot him.

Who witnessed this?
Re: Ademoyega Was The Cordinator Of The 1966 Ibo Coup? by Okoroawusa: 4:02pm On Apr 16, 2018
These 1966 coup stories r beginning to get boring
Re: Ademoyega Was The Cordinator Of The 1966 Ibo Coup? by PFRB: 4:02pm On Apr 16, 2018
dayokanu:
Coincidentally Ademoyega deliberately co-ordinated it so that all Igbo politicians escaped assasination and other regional leaders were killed.

Funny. What havent we heard about this coup, Some time back someone said Awolowo was the one coordinating the coup from Jail in Calabar and the coup plotters arrested Balewa to take him to Calabar to hand over to Awolowo.

Ridiculous the extent people would go to revise history

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The coup was Awo's coup.

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