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Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by senatorbayor(m): 2:53am On Dec 14, 2018 |
docadams: You are free to puncture any where you feel its not true |
Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by senatorbayor(m): 2:55am On Dec 14, 2018 |
jpphilips: The law GEJ signed was the amended 2010 electoral law Go and do your findings This new law buhari is afraid to sign does not have anything to do with the budget of INEC and it's not about changing goal post It's about strengthening our electoral process.. That's essence of governance |
Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by senatorbayor(m): 2:58am On Dec 14, 2018 |
dalongjnr: I will advice that you do your research very well Card reader was in the making but was not taken care of in the electoral act It was the amended 2010 electoral act that was signed in 2015 that took cognisance of its usage however it gave INEC discretion to use it wherever they deem it possible and should it fail, they were allow to use incidence form This new act now wants to make use of card reader compulsory and not an option |
Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by Deepthoughts: 2:59am On Dec 14, 2018 |
youngprofdguru:For God's sake how does signing a generally accepted bill lead to confusion n anarchy if such will not be engineered n sponsored?,n this ENANG was even involved in the bill making as a result of several complaints from buhari in the past, buhari was simply never going to accent to that bill no matter what n people like ENANG with all their education will always be willing n ready to justify the bigoted dullard actions. |
Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by senatorbayor(m): 3:03am On Dec 14, 2018 |
rexwalters: If GEJ did not sign that card reader should be use. You and I know that the rigging by either parties will be much The card reader curtailed those excesses The card reader was newly introduced hence some of the skirmishes that were noticed What is expected of a serious gov't is to strengthen the institution and the process and that's what the new electoral act wanted to take care of but PMB seems to be afraid of new changes |
Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by senatorbayor(m): 3:04am On Dec 14, 2018 |
Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by Deepthoughts: 3:05am On Dec 14, 2018 |
senatorbayor:Thank you for this nice explanations,the zombies will never reason this out. 1 Like |
Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by greenthangz: 5:54am On Dec 14, 2018 |
i was wondering why this man is so loved by Buhari then i suddenly remember that Enang means Cow in Akwa Ibom language |
Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by KingDizzle(m): 7:31am On Dec 14, 2018 |
But why are you people making this non signing of a new electoral act months to elections a big deal? INEC still have the previous electoral act which the PDP was using in their years in power to conduct the elections. why is the PDP and her supporters not confident in using the electoral act they have used in their years anymore ? |
Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by Babanews(m): 8:47am On Dec 14, 2018 |
straighttalk: What are you saying? |
Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by jpphilips(m): 3:18am On Dec 16, 2018 |
senatorbayor: So you haven't heard of 2015 electoral act before? |
Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by senatorbayor(m): 5:29am On Dec 16, 2018 |
jpphilips: We are saying same thing The act signed in 2015 was the 2010 amended electoral bill |
Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by jpphilips(m): 9:24am On Dec 16, 2018 |
senatorbayor: Are you saying what you know or what you think? Every electoral act is an ammendment of a previous one, the present one Buhari has refused to sign is equally an ammendment of the 2015 Ammendment, that happens to be the an ammendment from 2010. So what difference does it make? Buhari should contest with the electoral act that brought him to power, first, some non-living things said not signing means no use of card reader, today, seems you managed to read it reason you are complaining its useage is at Inec's discretion, Inec has said they will use it so what are you foaming in the mouth for? Dont you guys have better things to do with your time? 1 Like |
Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by jpphilips(m): 9:36am On Dec 16, 2018 |
senatorbayor: What is expected of a jobless youth is get something doing and stay away from social media. You don't change the goal post in the middle of the game, you are not contesting the election, the so called ammendment is making card readers manadatory with no alternative when the country is at war at different fronts with citizens displaced far away from their homes and wards. If it was in 2016 when the Niger delta was at war a northern president signed that, wont you complain the south has been disenfranchised? Card readers will be used, however, if it fails, there should be an alternative, if you can't contest under the circumstances, then stay at home, to rule Nigeria is not by force. 1 Like |
Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by senatorbayor(m): 10:12am On Dec 16, 2018 |
jpphilips: If every developed nations have your type of reasoning .. They won't be where they are.. You want to be like them but not ready to do what made them improve thier process and institution What should bother you is how we continue to do Same old things and want new results Reasons why care reader should be backed by law is to avert conflicting judgment that were witnessed after 2015 elections where court A nullified an election cos card reader was not used and court B upheld an election despite card reader not being used They claim card reader is unknown to law That's the gap this new electoral law intend to bridge by making it a law and compulsory to avoid conflicting court judgements |
Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by senatorbayor(m): 10:19am On Dec 16, 2018 |
jpphilips: Are you aware that none of the existing electoral act does not make card reader compulsory.. It only gave INEC the discretion to apply it where necessary.. This led to courts giving conflicting judgements on same card reader.. In river state, supreme court said card reader is unknown to law while it upturn another election for not using card reader.. The electoral bill buhari refused to sign is now taking care of that gap by making card reader compulsory and not an INEC discretion It's also making it a law and not an opt option to avert varying judgments as witnessed in last election |
Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by senatorbayor(m): 10:22am On Dec 16, 2018 |
jpphilips: Are you aware that none of the existing electoral act does not make card reader compulsory.. It only gave INEC the discretion to apply it where necessary.. This led to courts giving conflicting judgements on same card reader.. In river state, supreme court said card reader is unknown to law while it upturn another election for not using card reader.. The electoral bill buhari refused to sign is now taking care of that gap by making card reader compulsory and not an INEC discretion It's also making it a law and not an option to avert varying judgments as witnessed in last election |
Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by jpphilips(m): 11:31am On Dec 16, 2018 |
author=senatorbayor post=73890048] Are you aware that none of the existing electoral act does not make card reader compulsory.. Im certain you know the "I" in Inec means independent so what is wrong with an independent agency exercising discretion to ensure voters are not disenfranchised? This led to courts giving conflicting judgements on same card reader.. What the court does is not the buisness of Inec. In river state, supreme court said card reader is unknown to law while it upturn another election for not using card reader.. Not Inec's problem, the Judiciary should get its act together. The electoral bill buhari refused to sign is now taking care of that gap by making card reader compulsory and not an INEC discretion Inec's independence requires it exercises some level of discretion, if the card reader fails like every other electronics does even in advanced democracies, what next? We pack up and wait for a re-run? Really? For a 245b naira election? Im sure you know that the voting machines in Georgia failed during the mid term elections, what did the sane people of the US do? Call for re-run or use manual counting?
Court Judgement is not Inec's buisness, ive said that already. 1 Like |
Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by jpphilips(m): 11:49am On Dec 16, 2018 |
senatorbayor: Advanced democracies have my type of reasoning, are you better than them? In the just concluded mid term elections in the US, voting machines failed in Georgia, Alabama, Illinois, Arizona, Indiana, Michigan, Missouri, New jersey, New york, Nevada, North Carolina, Rhode Island, South carolina what did they do? Make voting machines sacrosanct or use discretion? Face your business you know very little how democracy works. 2 Likes |
Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by senatorbayor(m): 7:53pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
jpphilips: I am sure in those states you mentioned They made use of incidence report and allowed manual voting Sadly.. You want to be like them but you don't want to practice what gave them such feats Its better you allow the institutions to be strengthen than your usual promotions of shortcuts to success I can see how you know enough about democracy |
Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by senatorbayor(m): 7:57pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
jpphilips: The independence of INEC must be seen to be fair to all and not a particular section .. We've seen same INEC you want to project as been independent helping political parties rig election.. The judgements of court has a large direct impact on how INEC conduct the election More reasons they are joined as a party in the suits and equally have their lawyers who will prove to the court why certain elections should not be annulled. |
Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by jpphilips(m): 4:33am On Dec 17, 2018 |
senatorbayor: You enjoy going in circles, joining Inec in an electoral suit is different from bothering Inec with a court judgement. |
Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by jpphilips(m): 4:39am On Dec 17, 2018 |
senatorbayor: Im not interested in what you know about democracy, card reader will not be sacrosanct in Nigeria as electronic voting is not sacrosanct anywhere in the world, if you don't like the idea, please hug the nearest transformer with pleasure. 1 Like |
Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by senatorbayor(m): 3:21pm On Dec 17, 2018 |
jpphilips: Your last paragraph shows your level of reasoning while home and dry... Nice that you've been schooled on process of election in those countries you admire their type of democracy As long as those states in the U.S didnt use incidence report, we also must work towards it than doing the old way and seeking new result. Cheers |
Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by senatorbayor(m): 3:24pm On Dec 17, 2018 |
jpphilips: Now that you know that INEC conduct of election has a long impact on the court judgements as well.. Let's urge INEC to act independently and be seen to be fair cos they will always be party to any suit after the election. They will explain to the court why the election They conducted shouldn't be annulled |
Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by jpphilips(m): 6:12pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
senatorbayor: You still don't have a point, it is not the job of Inec to worry about court decisions, conversely, Inec does not have control over who or those that join it in suits. Inec can sue or be sued, its upto you to operate within your legal priviledges. 1 Like |
Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by jpphilips(m): 6:26pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
senatorbayor: You schooled someone that chronicled the challenges of electronic voting and the common sense solutions employed by sane climes? Are you by any chance r@tarded in your former life? |
Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by senatorbayor(m): 10:07pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
jpphilips: Its certain civility and robust debate devoid of use of vulgar and insults are far from your way of life.. It's advisable that when you can't continue with engagements of ideas , you quit the discuss than going so low with abuse It's a trait with those who are lacking ingredients of robust discuss Cheers |
Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by senatorbayor(m): 10:09pm On Dec 20, 2018 |
jpphilips: Now you are beginning to see reasons that INEC conducts will to an extent determine the outcome of a suit esp after elections More reasons they are part of the suit to give reasons why the court should upheld the elections they conducted . |
Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by jpphilips(m): 11:34am On Dec 21, 2018 |
senatorbayor: You are the one debating with yourself, I choose my opponents very carefully, I don't waste my venom on low IQ's littered everywhere on nairaland especially one like yourself that can't even read. You don't have any ideas, you are making noise, in the so called debate, you couldn't define your interest so why will you feel insulted? I dish out facts, if you cant catch up, please notify me. I gave you a chronicle of failures of electronic voting and what the US did, you turned around to say you schooled me? Can you school me? What do you know about electronic voting beyond your Nigerian microcosm? PDP gave us the 2015 electoral act ammendment, they must run with it. If it has flaws, they should've made it better if they ever cared about strengthening the process. In 2019 when the APC takes control of the legislature, they should give us an electoral act to use in 2023. It is nauseous when someone is disturbing us with problems of politicians, have they ever cared? Based on our 2014 crude oil shock experience, the same legislators remote controlling dumbos like you are supposed to either legitimize the excess crude revenue account with a bill or come up with another that will forestall the kinda economic crisis we find ourselves today, have they done it? No!! They are killing themselves over an electoral act, you a dumb Nigerian at the receiving end of their inefficiencies is campaigning for their interest but quiet on yours. Don't you know that a robust reserve would have solved all the economic challenges you are facing today? When will you campaign for "National emergency funds bill"?, no, you wont do that because you are clueless. Have the legislators given you local government autonomy? please face your interest in this country. Electoral act is the buisness of politicians, LG autonomy is our buisness, face your hussle. 1 Like |
Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by jpphilips(m): 11:48am On Dec 21, 2018 |
senatorbayor: I am not seeing any reasons with you, your conclusion is baseless, you don't place Inec in tandem with court decisions, they are two different processes. Inec has the legal mandate to conduct elections, if you are unsatisfied with Inec's conduct, you approach the courts, whatever decision the court takes is upto the courts not Inec. This is common sense, I don't understand why you are finding it difficult to wrap it around your head. 1 Like |
Re: Ita Enang: Why Buhari Refused To Sign Electoral Act Amendment Bill by RoyalUc(m): 12:51pm On Dec 21, 2018 |
cucumbae:How is not signing the bill "rigging of election?" |
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