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Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by adioolayi(m): 10:15am On Jun 21, 2019 |
Jonathan:oponu, arindin babanla baba afofun gbe'mu |
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by jonadaft: 10:19am On Jun 21, 2019 |
ornicus:Ọdẹ So everyone must be a doctor or everyone must have passion for it ? The health system is a complex one with different key role players. And for your info dolt, I'm on level 10 approaching 12 and I work in the health sector. |
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by jonadaft: 10:28am On Jun 21, 2019 |
adioolayi:orie buru onisa |
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by mechanics(m): 10:41am On Jun 21, 2019 |
But the step is different with other courses for engineering graduate. |
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Nobody: 10:43am On Jun 21, 2019 |
Jonathan: Oh. I see. One of those johesu jokers who think their 4 years dubbing puts them on the same footing with medical doctors. You are support and nothing more.deal with it It is only in Nigeria we see this nonsense, just as it is in Nigeria that some engineering olodos will be equating the stress med school with engineering school i know your story well. Wanted to be a doctor, couldn't make the cut, and now constantly beefing. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by adioolayi(m): 11:23am On Jun 21, 2019 |
Jonathan:ko si apere omoluabi kankan la'ra re |
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by nurex01(m): 12:00pm On Jun 21, 2019 |
chrisxxx:thanks. Patiently waiting waiting Sir |
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by jonadaft: 1:24pm On Jun 21, 2019 |
ornicus:Hahaha Lol What a dolt Wanted to be a doctor my ass. Well of course, I'm going to be a doctor soon as I'm on my 6th seminar.... You're nothing but an ignorant clown. |
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by jonadaft: 1:33pm On Jun 21, 2019 |
ornicus:The Nigeria/Nigerians that made you are ungrateful? What a foooooooool |
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Godmademan(m): 5:55pm On Jun 21, 2019 |
To qualify to be a doctor, you must go through the following with constant risk of being thrown out the door at any point in time: BASIC MEDICAL SCIENCES - Anatomy + Gross Anatomy + Histology + Embryology - Medical Biochemistry - Medical Physiology PATHOLOGY + Medical Microbiology + Histopathology + Chemical Pathology + Haematology PHARMACOLOGY SUBSPECIALTIES - Ophthalmology - Anaeathesiology - Radiology - Dermatology SURGERY - Cardiothoraic - Orthopaedics & Plastics - Otolaryngology - Urology - Neurosurgery - General Surgery MEDICINE - Nephrology - Endocrinology - Cardiology - Gastrology - e.t.c. PAEDIATRICS (With subspecialties) OBSTETRICS AND GYNAECOLOGY PSYCHIATRY PUBLIC HEALTH 1 YEAR OF HOUSEJOB YEARS OF TRAINING FOR SPECIALIZATION One could easily be eligible for a degree in each area based on the amount of details required to be learnt from each. The undergraduate programme runs for 8 sessions in some schools. If the system decides to reward doctors, then so be it. Meanwhile with all these complains, Nigerian doctors are amongst the least paid worldwide. 4 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Godmademan(m): 8:30pm On Jun 21, 2019 |
Stillthebest:Trust me, cramming does not help a medical trainee much. A minor specialty in medicine can have books with large volumes. Considering how wide medicine is, it is not a crime for a young doctor to visit his books for clarifications. Even professors still get excited when they see some cases because that might be the last time they get to see such and learn from. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Stillthebest: 7:53am On Jun 22, 2019 |
Godmademan: Right. But they do cram alot. I had a stint in the course that's why I knew. Especially to pass exams. But the course has more to do with understanding human body formations and diseases associated with causes in line with your speciality. |
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Godmademan(m): 10:12am On Jun 22, 2019 |
Stillthebest:some people cram in the pre-clinicals, but you can't survive a day in clinical medicine by cramming. You will be smoked out and sent home. |
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Stillthebest: 10:56am On Jun 22, 2019 |
Godmademan: Why I said right. |
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Godmademan(m): 11:06am On Jun 22, 2019 |
Stillthebest: |
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Godmademan(m): 11:13am On Jun 22, 2019 |
Stillthebest:Yea… You had a stint in Medicine? Why did you opt out? |
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Stillthebest: 11:34am On Jun 22, 2019 |
Godmademan: Long story. Lost dad in a plane crash. Affected me deeply, fell sick Close to two years lectures became on and off, result became bad at Part two. So I withdrew. That's part Two. Later went for a course in sciences but not medicine n surgery. |
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by superman1073: 11:50am On Jun 22, 2019 |
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Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Godmademan(m): 12:50pm On Jun 22, 2019 |
Stillthebest:Sorry about that. Sure you're making progress in your new endeavour. |
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Stillthebest: 1:57pm On Jun 22, 2019 |
Godmademan: Lol,yes God deserves the glory. And thanks. God bless. |
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Evangkatsoulis: 8:32pm On Jun 22, 2019 |
Tonymario58: Lol. This is dum.b. Studies show Engineers, physicists, mathematicians have higher average Iq's than doctors. Funny enough, in some countries like Russia, Medicine is regarded more as craftmanship than real science like Physics.. |
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by sreamsense: 7:32pm On Aug 09, 2019 |
Engineers and Doctors start from the same level. A fresh graduate in engineering is not yet an engineer, except he is certified by relevant bodies in engineering, many of you are comparing graduate engineers that are not yet engineers: point of salary Grade Level 09 for Engineers in the Public Service: By this development, graduate Engineers will now be employed in the service on GL 09, get upgraded to GL 10 after two years and further upgraded to GL 12 upon registration with COREN. (by this time, number of years spent by medical doctors in school must have been equivalent with engineers after coren. So, logically, they are put on the same salary scale in public service Although, it is only a lazy engineer that will be queuing for state or federal jobs for longer time, most of them work for shorter times. With relevant skills, engineers can earn more. Googling "1000 richest men in the world" and check their profiles will suggest to your that engineers are wealth creators, you can't see any doctor or salary earners among the top 1000 richest men in the world, many of them are engineers and computer experts, doctors can be comfortable but not wealthy, their major underlined aim is to safe life and not money https://nse.org.ng/news-events/recent-news/entry-point-for-engineers |
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by sreamsense: 10:07pm On Aug 09, 2019 |
Ninethmare: It is not true, you seem not to understand the logic behind salary structure. Engineers and Doctors start from the same level. Registered Doctor (at least before you are free to practice): 6yrs mbbs + 1yr (housmanship) + 1yr (NYSC) = 8yrs (before you can be employed by hospital). Note: Some might not get housemanship placement in one yr because of limited numbers of hospitals availability. So, for a fully registered doctor to be employed after NYSC, about 8-10yrs must have been spent, it means: After 8-10yrs as registered doctor fully ready to practise at Federal, the person will start at level 12 For engineer, a fresh graduate in engineering is not yet an engineer, except he is certified by relevant bodies in engineering before he/she can be fully ready to be called engineer: engineering (B engr ): 5yrs + 1yr = 6yr (fresh graduate not yet registered engineer, but can begin work if he likes at level 9 in public service), two yrs after (8yrs-when doctor is doing housemanship if he is lucky to get housemanship on time), engineer in federal service already moved to level 10. At 9/10 yrs when doctor must have finished NYSC and qualified to work in any hospital as registered doctor (i.e federal), by this time, engineer already has 4yrs post-graduate experience and become registered engineer(fresh) who now starts at level 12 which is the same as that of doctor(registered). Engineer even gets better opportunity because many factors can cause medical doctor to be delayed than 8/9/10yrs and also, engineer has been collecting money even before becoming registered engineer while doctor was still paying money to school and other finances before becoming registered. Amount collected during 1yr housemanship can not be compared with what level 10 engineer has collected so far. So, people that structured federal salary scale know what they are doing, fresh registered doctor and fresh registered engineer in federal institutions are logically starts on the same level in public service, numbers of years play important role. https://nse.org.ng/news-events/recent-news/entry-point-for-engineers |
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Nobody: 9:38pm On Aug 14, 2019 |
Lagusta:" some (most) of them are old hags, i dont blame them. They were told "read hard, study hard, pass your exams" but no, they decided to skip classes, meet their boyfriends, waste thei lives away, and now, they are forming an alliance with the steewpid pharmacists and lab scientists how steeewpid can some he-diots and she-diots be" How can you be this rude and cocky? Thankfully you are porting to UK, where your ass could be sued if you don't cooperate and do the right thing. You were privileged didn't mean others were lazy. |
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Nobody: 10:47pm On Aug 14, 2019 |
Lagusta:I hope you aren't as silly and dumb as u are in 2015. Your consultants run private clinics and train quacks and call dem auxiliary nurses. These people end up opening clinics and commit blunders, the society do not know, all they know is, a nurse did it. If you reason well, how would a registered nurse do something like that?? You do not want other profession to progress, you still bastardize those profession by training quacks. I wish you all call them auxiliary doctors instead. "... the nurse checked her glucose, it was high, so the nurse decided, from her own stinking mind, to give her a higher dose of insulin, and hey guess what, SHE GAVE IT INTRAVENOUSLY!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! See as I dey laaaff in aboriginal Australian!!!! These are the nurses that want to be consultants.... Lololzzzz"" |
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Nobody: 11:07pm On Aug 14, 2019 |
Lagusta:"She had all I needed in a lady, and she was too brilliant to be a nurse..." can u really go far in life with this your cocky attitude? Nurses are meant to be dull? What was your background like before you entered uni, you mever met nurses or know of any? What sort of ignorance is this? I want to believe it was due to the euphoria of being a new med grad. but if you are still that saucy, heaven helps you. |
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Ninethmare: 11:36am On Aug 16, 2019 |
sreamsense: You are so correct, thanks for the enlightenment |
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Lagusta(m): 6:05pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
camobri: lol, you actually dug up 2015 post in 2019, really Anyway, for your info, i have MANY nurses as close friends and colleagues, and we work as a team to make the patient feel better. Meanwhile, lets chill for some cool drinks, state your location lets know whats up |
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Nobody: 7:32pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Lagusta:good to know ur not as saucy as before. Nah, send me d money for the drinks and all instead. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Nobody: 5:13pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
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Re: Why Do Doctors Start Federal Job On Level 12? by Nobody: 5:17pm On Sep 25, 2019 |
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