Peacefullove:
I tell you again, when we are through with this, you will see why the blasphemy angle doesn't help you.

It won't help you because you're a twister of the scripture.

Am questioning two things

The God status ascribed to holy spirit - Does it know the day and hour ?

The person status ascribed - If its a person, that makes the verse that said knows all the things of God a Lie ,because it doesn't , this person is among the NOBODY knows!!! . IT MEANS WE SHOULD HAVE TWO PERSONS that know the day and hour . for that verse to be true!

You're the one who come to that conclusion not what the scripture says that's why I gave you an instance where Jesus grouped The Holy Spirit along Himself and excluded the Father, do we then conclude that The Father can be blasphemy against?

If it's not a person, there is no need for Yeshua to mention it at Matth 24:36 as he did since it represent the very power of the Father himself . so if a verse says it knows all the things of God, it is because its the power of that God himself

Since Jesus didn't mention the father then it means the Father isn't a person or lesser than two of them...

Holy Spirit is the power of the Father yet HE KNOWS ALL THINGS ABOUT GOD...how come?

Back to the blasphemy statement, to blaspheme it will be a direct assault on the Father who owns this power .

Getting it now ?

We need to agree first on the red part .

Delusions.....

You can continue to twist it as you like, what is so difficult for Jesus to just mention the Father instead of using inanimate thing to allude to the Father....

Emusan:


It won't help you because you're a twister of the scripture.



You're the one who come to that conclusion not what the scripture says

Emusan your delusion is top notch

Jesus said ONLY the Father knows , Does that spell it out clearly that holy spirit doesn't know if it were a person ?

Or Jesus lied by saying ONLY the father when there is another person that knows ? U seriously ave problem here

that's why I gave you an instance where Jesus grouped The Holy Spirit along Himself and excluded the Father, do we then conclude that The Father can be blasphemy against?

The problem with the Blasphemy statement looking at it from your angle is it Makes the holy spirit greater than Jesus if it were a person, agree ?

Since Jesus didn't mention the father then it means the Father isn't a person or lesser than two of them...

You are roping yourself.

Is Jesus lesser than holy spirit ?

Holy Spirit is the power of the Father yet HE KNOWS ALL THINGS ABOUT GOD...how come?



Delusions.....

You can continue to twist it as you like, what is so difficult for Jesus to just mention the Father instead of using inanimate thing to allude to the Father....

Spirit of man knows the things of man, is the spirit of man a person ?

Peacefullove:


Peacefullove your delusion is not only top notch but spreading wide than fire.

Jesus said ONLY the Father knows , Does that spell it out clearly that holy spirit doesn't know if it were a person ?

Or Jesus lied by saying ONLY the father when there is another person that knows ? U seriously ave problem here

The point still remains that, Jesus didn't mention the Holy Spirit in that verse which you first lied about and Holy Spirit wasn't mentioned there didn't disprove his person just as Jesus didn't mention the Father in the blasphemy statement.

Get that into your empty skull!

The problem with the Blasphemy statement looking at it from your angle is it Makes the holy spirit greater than Jesus if it were a person, agree ?

You are roping yourself.

Is Jesus lesser than holy spirit?

The reason I stop discussing with you most times is because of your reasoning like a kid.

Read my post again to understand my point.

Now, diverting from the main point!

Does Jesus not mention the Father means the Father isn't a person? That's the question.

Spirit of man knows the things of man, is the spirit of man a person?

So if the spirit of man isn't a person, what are you arguing against on this thread?

You can see the reason I do say you have that small child brain.

Emusan:


Since this is the line of your argument then we can also say, since Jesus didn't include the Father in the blasphemy statement, the Father isn't a person!

Olodo....

@Matthew 24:36

Jesus mentioned

¤Father
¤Son
¤Angels

Period!

No mention of any person called Holy Spirit!

Peacefullove:

D Emusan your delusion is top notch
Jesus said ONLY the Father knows , Does that spell it out clearly that holy spirit doesn't know if it were a person ?
Or Jesus lied by saying ONLY the father when there is another person that knows ? U seriously ave problem here
The problem with the Blasphemy statement looking at it from your angle is it Makes the holy spirit greater than Jesus if it were a person, agree ?
You are roping yourself.
Is Jesus lesser than holy spirit ?
Spirit of man knows the things of man, is the spirit of man a person ?

I've known Emusan for long!

He's obsessed with arguing against Jehovah's Witnesses, even when he's not making any sense at all.

When i respond to his comments, it's not because of him but to make other followers see that Emusan is just arguing blindly!

Emusan:


The point still remains that, Jesus didn't mention the Holy Spirit in that verse which you first lied about

Only the Father knows, Emusan, Does this not spell it out clearly that NO other person knows ?

Your brain can't handle this?

and Holy Spirit wasn't mentioned there didn't disprove his person just as Jesus didn't mention the Father in the blasphemy statement.

I repeat again: The blasphemy statement would also mean Holy spirit is GREATER than Jesus , unless Jesus is referring to the fact that holy spirit isnt a person but a power of Someone Greater than him .

Get that into your empty skull!



The reason I stop discussing with you most times is because of your reasoning like a kid.

Read my post again to understand my point.

Now, diverting from the main point!

Does Jesus not mention the Father means the Father isn't a person? That's the question.

Neither did Yeshua mention me,

Again I repeat: THE REFERENCE TO BLASPHEMY STATEMENR WOULD PROVE HOLY SPIRIT IS GREATER THAN Yeshua , agree ?

Unless its not a person . so you see even that point is coming to haunt you

So if the spirit of man isn't a person, what are you arguing against on this thread?

You can see the reason I do say you have that small child brain.

In the same manner, spirit of God isn't a person, comprehended , Yes ?

Emusan:


@Bolden is sufficient for me...

So after you said that "HE WAS RAISED A SPIRITUAL BODY"

So if those in heaven are like the heavenly one, wouldn't those in hell be the same? You can see how you crumble your own argument....

Besides, this is all about resurrection and not about God because God is a spirit and doesn't have a body.

The man from heaven is a spirit, angels are spirit too, Yet they don't have a body ?

I quoted it for the sake of that ressurection as you would see below, and yet doesn't negate the fact that those in heaven have the spiritual body. According to Paul, if there is a physical body, there is a spiritual one . logic here is as far as some have physical body, some also have the spiritual body.

proves that you can only apply anthropomorphic terms to A Spirit being with spiritual body like angels and other heavenly beings.

Back to humans:


RESSURECTION hasn't occur, You hear that ! So any reference to people gnashing teeth and body in hell presently is referring to which Body, physical ?

Peacefullove:


Good point , though doesn't negate the fact that those in heaven have the spiritual body. According to Paul, if there is a physical body, there is a spiritual one . logic here is as far as some have physical body, some also have the spiritual body.

So the Ressurection parts proves that you can only apply anthropomorphic terms to A Spirit being with spiritual body.

After your Mumbo jumbo, you can't still accept that you're wrong.

God is a spirit and He was described having eyes and hands.....

Your own is to proof to us how a spirit can't cry and gnashing of teeth, since you know more about their Nature.

BUT RESSURECTION hasn't occur, You hear that ! So any reference to people gnashing teeth and body in hell presently is referring to which Body ?

This will bring us back to my previous question, God is a spirit and He was described having eyes and hands. Does this then mean God has eyes and hands like the one we have?

Do you fully understand the nature of the spirit being, for you to know they can't cry nor gnashing of teeth?

Maximus69:


@Matthew 24:36

Jesus mentioned

¤Father
¤Son
¤Angels

Period!

No mention of any person called Holy Spirit!

The problem emusan have with the above is comprehension, 1. There is no two ways about it, either holy spirit isn't a person or its a person but among the Nobody knows .

2. But This nobody know stance will Question it's God status, and also his person status because it would contradict verses that said it knows the things of God. But if it were a power of the Father instead of person, it makes perfect sense for Yeshua to completely omit.

Emusan:


After your Mumbo jumbo, you can't still accept that you're wrong.

God is a spirit and He was described having eyes and hands.....

Your own is to proof to us how a spirit can't cry and gnashing of teeth, since you know more about their Nature.

This will bring us back to my previous question, God is a spirit and He was described having eyes and hands. Does this then mean God has eyes and hands like the one we have?

Do you fully understand the nature of the spirit being , for you to know they can't cry nor gnashing of teeth?

Man isn't a spirit being. Man is physical being . different . cry ? Hahaha shedding water from eyes , spiritual water ? They can thirst too , Drink spiritual water right or is it physical water ?

Peacefullove:
Only the Father knows, Does this not spell it out clearly that NO other person knows?

Why can't you allow the scripture to speak for itself?

The scripture says The HOLY SPIRIT knows the things of God....do you think Holy Spirit won't know?

because Jesus didn't mention the Holy Spirit, you have to conclude on Jesus behalf that, that's what Jesus meant.

Your brain can't handle this?

Just as your brain can't handle the blasphemy statement which you have to twist to mean it's blasphemy against the Father..

I repeat again: The blasphemy statement would also mean Holy spirit is GREATER than Jesus , unless Jesus is referring to the fact that holy spirit isnt a person but a power of Someone Greater than him

It didn't because you couldn't grab the message with your empty skull.

Neither did Yeshua mention me,

Again I repeat: THE REFERENCE TO BLASPHEMY STATEMENR WOULD PROVE HOLY SPIRIT IS GREATER THAN Yeshua , agree ?

Unless its not a person . so you see even that point is coming to haunt you

Another way to divert from the main point....

In the same manner, spirit of God isn't a person, comprehended , Yes ?

What is the first manner

Emusan:


After your Mumbo jumbo, you can't still accept that you're wrong.

God is a spirit and He was described having eyes and hands.....

Your own is to proof to us how a spirit can't cry and gnashing of teeth, since you know more about their Nature.




This will bring us back to my previous question, God is a spirit and He was described having eyes and hands. Does this then mean God has eyes and hands like the one we have?

Do you fully understand the nature of the spirit being, for you to know they can't cry nor gnashing of teeth?

God is a spirit being, Man is not, that someone's breath is termed spirit doesnt make them spirit beings . Consider Isaiah 31:3

" The Egyptians , though are mere men and not God ; their horses are flesh and not spirit "

The horses are flesh just like man is , never spirit beings .

Emusan:


Why can't you allow the scripture to speak for itself?

The scripture says The HOLY SPIRIT knows the things of God.... do you think Holy Spirit won't know?

because Jesus didn't mention the Holy Spirit, you have to conclude on Jesus behalf that, that's what Jesus meant.

.
He didn't conclude on Jesus behalf. Far from it ,Matthew 24:36 says But only the Father

Be careful with the question above, as you are outrightly saying Jesus isn't saying the truth , emphasis on " Only " . that disqualifies any other person

Just as your brain can't handle the blasphemy statement which you have to twist to mean it's blasphemy against the Father..





It didn't because you couldn't grab the message with your empty skull.





Another way to divert from the main point....




What is the first manner

Am actually interested in his point regarding who is greater between Jesus and holy spirit going by that statement Jesus made ?

Peacefullove:
Man isn't a spirit being. Man is physical being . different . cry ? Hahaha shedding water from eyes , spiritual water ? They can thirst too , Drink spiritual water right or is it physical water ?

Do you fully understand the nature of the spirit that's the question?

Enough of this ranting.....

Revelation talks about water and those athirst shall drink from....

Anyways, I know you're just looking for a mate!

You've crawled out from nowhere only to be jumping up and down.

Barristter07:
He didn't conclude on Jesus behalf. Far from it ,Matthew 24:36 says But only the Father

Be careful with the question above, as you are outrightly saying Jesus isn't saying the truth , emphasis on " Only " . that disqualifies any other person

So you also agree that Bible is lying when it says The Spirit of God knows ALL THE THINGS of God?

And any other thing.....

Am actually interested in his point regarding who is greater between Jesus and holy spirit going by that statement Jesus made ?

If you pay close attention to that statement, you'd have known and understand it but since your brain is wired differently, I don't expect that.

Barristter07:
God is a spirit being, Man is not, that someone's breath is termed spirit doesnt make them spirit beings . Consider Isaiah 31:3

" The Egyptians , though are mere men and not God ; their horses are flesh and not spirit "

The horses are flesh just like man is , never spirit beings.

Want us to be spoon feeding you like a toddler here again.

At least you agreed that there's a spirit in human but you just decided to call it BREATH....

Maximus69:


I've known Emusan for long!

He's obsessed with arguing against Jehovah's Witnesses, even when he's not making any sense at all.

When i respond to his comments, it's not because of him but to make other followers see that Emusan is just arguing blindly!

Says the most deluded person on NL that can't even contribute intellectually on a thread other than ranting and jumping pole.

I haven't seen anyone you're discussing with on this forum who hasn't pointed that out to you. So instead of you to go and work on yourself, you're still spending your life here!

Emusan:


Want us to be spoon feeding you like a toddler here again.

At least you agreed that there's a spirit in human but you just decided to call it BREATH ....

Its the same spirit in the Horse mentioned at Isaiah 31:3, yet it was never classified as Spirit being , separated from spirit beings. . I only wanted to show you why your anthropomorphism cards are unreasonable.

Emusan:
You've crawled out from nowhere only to be jumping up and down.



So you also agree that Bible is lying when it says The Spirit of God knows ALL THE THINGS of God?

And any other thing.....

If you have a thinking cap, you would know i dont have any problem with that statement given that the holy spirit is Jehovah's power in action. So yes only the Father knows, hence Matt 24:36 doesn't have anything to do with his holy spirit which isn't another person.

If you pay close attention to that statement, you'd have known and understand it but since your brain is wired differently, I don't expect that.

hahahahahaha , help me understand by explaining to me if Holy spirit isn't Greater than Jesus with that statement ? .

Emusan:


Why can't you allow the scripture to speak for itself?

The scripture says The HOLY SPIRIT knows the things of God.... do you think Holy Spirit won't know?

because Jesus didn't mention the Holy Spirit, you have to conclude on Jesus behalf that, that's what Jesus meant.

And Yeshua would be a Liar , agree ?

Just as your brain can't handle the blasphemy statement which you have to twist to mean it's blasphemy against the Father..





It didn't because you couldn't grab the message with your empty skull.





Another way to divert from the main point....




What is the first manner

Blasphemy saga

Emusan, is Holy spirit not greater than Jesus ?

Barristter07:


God is a spirit being, Man is not, that someone's breath is termed spirit doesnt make them spirit beings . Consider Isaiah 31:3

" The Egyptians , though are mere men and not God ; their horses are flesh and not spirit "

The horses are flesh just like man is , never spirit beings .

Simple!

Emusan:


Do you fully understand the nature of the spirit that's the question?

Enough of this ranting.....

And who told you humans become spirit beings when they die ?

If you check Yeshuas word in many English Bible, there are many references of hell with human body not anthropomorphism.

Revelation talks about water and those athirst shall drink from....

Anyways, I know you're just looking for a mate!

So sad, revelation that said it was written in symbols is now your go to verse.

Peacefullove:
And who told you humans become spirit beings when they die?

And who told you there's no spirit in human being?

If you check Yeshuas word in many English Bible, there are many references of hell with human body not anthropomorphism.

Do you fully understand the nature of the spirit?

This will take us back to begin, which is the scripture described God as having eyes and hands, does this mean the hands and eyes are like the human own?

So sad, revelation that said it was written in symbols is now your go to verse.

Now it's symbolic!
I rest my case....

Peacefullove:
And Yeshua would be a Liar , agree ?

Says you!

Blasphemy saga
is Holy spirit not greater than Jesus ?

Still diverting from the main point.

Barristter07:
Its the same spirit in the Horse mentioned at Isaiah 31:3, yet it was never classified as Spirit being , separated from spirit beings. . I only wanted to show you why your anthropomorphism cards are unreasonable.

Olodo....
And it's very convenient for you to twist scripture at will, well I'm not surprised sha...Isaiah never says the horses have spirit in them rather the "....horses are flesh, and NOT SPIRIT" a good student of the scripture reading from verse 1 understand that but only a brainwashed JWs will twist it.

If you can do this, then you want me to take you serious. Sorry try again.

Barristter07:
If you have a thinking cap, you would know i dont have any problem with that statement given that the holy spirit is Jehovah's power in action. So yes only the Father knows, hence Matt 24:36 doesn't have anything to do with his holy spirit which isn't another person.

So with your education, an inanimate thing can know ALL THINGS about God....continue!

hahahahahaha , help me understand by explaining to me if Holy spirit isn't Greater than Jesus with that statement ?

I can't help a toddler like you....Google is your friend.

Emusan:


And who told you there's no spirit in human being?

A poster already enlighten you about this, Spirit in human being does not make them spirit being, if that was the case, Horses would have been classified as Spirits, but they are not

Do horses not have spirit in them ?

Do you fully understand the nature of the spirit?
This will take us back to begin, which is the scripture described God as having eyes and hands, does this mean the hands and eyes are like the human own?
Now it's symbolic!
I rest my case....

Humans are not spirit.
When Yeshua mention whole body in hell which body was he reffering?

Emusan:


Says you!

If someone says only the Father , does that not xclude every other person ?

Toddler emusan doesn't no Nada!

Still diverting from the main point.

That which knock u out is termed diversion
Which main point, sin against Yeshua can be forgiven but against holy spirit cannot be forgiven, Is it not clear who is Greater ?

Emusan:


Olodo....
And it's very convenient for you to twist scripture at will, well I'm not surprised sha.. .Isaiah never says the horses have spirit in them rather the "....horses are flesh, and NOT SPIRIT" a good student of the scripture reading from verse 1 understand that but only a brainwashed JWs will twist it.

If you can do this, then you want me to take you serious. Sorry try again.

Very deluded person, he was reffering to other Bible text that established that animals have spirit in them . Does it make them spirit beings ? Common sense isn't common

Peacefullove:
A poster already enlighten you about this, Spirit in human being does not make them spirit being, if that was the case, Horses would have been classified as Spirits, but they are not

Do horses not have spirit in them ?

A deluded posterike you....

At least you have agreed with your deluded poster that human actually has a spirit in them....so you can continue to rant.

Where does the spirit of horses go after death?

Humans are not spirit.
When Yeshua mention whole body in hell which body was he reffering?

No-one says human are SPIRIT, get that into your dull skull.

Human has spirit which after death continue to exist.

Your body...

Peacefullove:
Very deluded person, he was reffering to other Bible text that established that animals have spirit in them . Does it make them spirit beings ? Common sense isn't common

Super deluded person...now he was referring to other Bible text....yet he boldly said "MENTIONED IN ISAIAH"

Who says human are SPIRIT BEINGS

Emusan:


A deluded posterike you....

At least you have agreed with your deluded poster that human actually has a spirit in them....so you can continue to rant.

Where does the spirit of horses go after death?





No-one says human are SPIRIT, get that into your dull skull.


Human has spirit which after death continue to exist.

Your body...

I want to believe Jesus spirit proceed to heaven the moment he died, Yes ? Luke 23 vs 46