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Re: Jerry Kumuyi, Pastor Kumuyi's Son Confesses About His Salvation by Kastrom: 10:29pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
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Re: Jerry Kumuyi, Pastor Kumuyi's Son Confesses About His Salvation by CodeTemplar: 12:27am On Dec 03, 2019 |
itsme01:They aren't really, people just tend to invade their privacy as a way of validating themselves. They tag them pastor's children to make it look like they ought to be perfect beings from womb. They are flesh just like everyone else. |
Re: Jerry Kumuyi, Pastor Kumuyi's Son Confesses About His Salvation by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:17am On Dec 03, 2019 |
paxonel: Do you now see why you have to be born again? |
Re: Jerry Kumuyi, Pastor Kumuyi's Son Confesses About His Salvation by awoluyi(m): 4:47am On Dec 03, 2019 |
What makes a pastor's child different from any child that is not properly brought up? Nothing! I grew up with my maternal grand-father who happened to be a shrine priest; there were things no child would ever attempt to do in his presence. He was a disciplinarian first order. He imputed in us some good virtues that we still carry today even as Christians. Many pastors today have no time for their homes which are their primary constituency. So I wonder whenever I listen to a pastor's child talking about his/her unimpressive past. 1 Like |
Re: Jerry Kumuyi, Pastor Kumuyi's Son Confesses About His Salvation by paxonel(m): 8:05am On Dec 03, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU:i told you, you don't belong there. From what i see in your posts on NL you are far more intelligent than that church, it seems you have gone to school to some extent but you choose to subdue yourself into their errors and limit yourself within their little jurisdiction of knowledge about Christ thereby not getting the freedom that comes with absolute knowledge, it's your choice what you don't know, you don't know it's as simple as that. A quick review of what born again entails is this, may be you should put on your thinking capacity to understand this. 1. when Jesus met Nicodemus and told him you must be born again, Christ has not yet been crucified. Meaning, there was no Christianity then. 2. Consider this scripture : John 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. (meaning, this is what i mean by born again) John 3:8(Jesus put up this parable to explain what he meant by born again) The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit (born again) Go and find out the meaning of that parable, know the meaning of born again and be free from religion. |
Re: Jerry Kumuyi, Pastor Kumuyi's Son Confesses About His Salvation by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:04am On Dec 03, 2019 |
paxonel: And you have absolute knowledge, right? paxonel: I know that I don't have absolute knowledge. paxonel: Since Christ has been crucified have you now been born again? paxonel: A man with experience is not at the mercy of the man with an argument. Are you a good person? |
Re: Jerry Kumuyi, Pastor Kumuyi's Son Confesses About His Salvation by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:05am On Dec 03, 2019 |
gracefoundmme: God has no grandchildren. |
Re: Jerry Kumuyi, Pastor Kumuyi's Son Confesses About His Salvation by Nobody: 11:05am On Dec 03, 2019 |
Nothing strange about this oga...being Dad G.O's son doesn't make him saint or sin free. Even apostle Paul had his own struggle. He's human like u ad me. Stop the judgement |
Re: Jerry Kumuyi, Pastor Kumuyi's Son Confesses About His Salvation by ForbesHomesNG(m): 11:40am On Dec 03, 2019 |
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Re: Jerry Kumuyi, Pastor Kumuyi's Son Confesses About His Salvation by jclassiq(m): 1:14pm On Dec 03, 2019 |
Nikeballer: God uses the foolish things to confound you, the so called wise. |
Re: Jerry Kumuyi, Pastor Kumuyi's Son Confesses About His Salvation by jclassiq(m): 1:15pm On Dec 03, 2019 |
FactBoyz: Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith.. For the joy that was set before him he bore the cross, despising the shame. Now he is seated at the right hand side of the father. |
Re: Jerry Kumuyi, Pastor Kumuyi's Son Confesses About His Salvation by Nobody: 1:27pm On Dec 03, 2019 |
gracefoundmme: Although, I didn't watch the video, but that someone confessed his sins, isn't it something to be celebrated? Many I tell you are doing the worse, yet they don't confess nor are ready to repent. He is no superhuman, he can sin. 1 Like |
Re: Jerry Kumuyi, Pastor Kumuyi's Son Confesses About His Salvation by paxonel(m): 2:14pm On Dec 03, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU:don't misunderstand me. No one has absolute knowledge. All I'm saying is there is a level of knowledge about Christ that when you have it you will be break free from religion. the right question you should ask is, do i believe in Christ? If i tell you i believe in Christ that should settle everything between us, cos we are all one in Christ irrespective of our denomination. But by the time you start asking are you born again? Have you ever asked a Muslim that question are you born again and hear what he will answer you? it doesn't matter whether I'm good or not. The same thing applies to Jerry your pastors son. Look, before now i have known that boy Jerry,the other of his brother i don't know much about him. The boy Jerry i know is very vast, knowledgeable to the core, deeper life should be very proud to have someone like him. The way he reasons is almost totally out of the scope of religion his father thought him, Ofcourse this explains the lot of controversies surrounded his wedding back then in Jamaica. It was as if he was not groomed in deeper life. His wife, another controversy, a smart lady. whatever you people think about that boy in deeper life one thing i know about him is his interest is to unite the body Christ in general and not just deeper life and it doctrines. He does not preach, yet he knows better. Come over to Jamaica or the united state where he frequently visit nobody talks about born again or religion or doctrines. All we know is we all belong to Christ irrespective of who you are : so long you believe that Jesus is the Christ. |
Re: Jerry Kumuyi, Pastor Kumuyi's Son Confesses About His Salvation by Informer155(m): 4:00pm On Dec 03, 2019 |
paxonel:have you ever come across this?..."Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." math 7:21-23. "He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil." I john 3:8 "For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie." Rev 22 so sin is not a negotiable thing in Christ Jesus.Its all about holiness without you can't see the Lord bro.there can never be any other way.the better a man understand that even a simple lie is against the knowledge of Christ Jesus the better for him. |
Re: Jerry Kumuyi, Pastor Kumuyi's Son Confesses About His Salvation by irukka: 4:36pm On Dec 03, 2019 |
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Re: Jerry Kumuyi, Pastor Kumuyi's Son Confesses About His Salvation by paxonel(m): 5:16pm On Dec 03, 2019 |
Informer155:calm down! There is something you have omitted from this scripture unconsciously. The story behind it. Many will say to him Lord Lord on that day! Who were the many? (I'm asking this question with past tense because the story is past since 2000 years ago) There were many people who followed Christ and called him Lord Lord before he was crucified, who were the many? How many the 5000 many or multitudes who eat five loads of bread and two fishes in the wilderness ended up becoming Christians after Christ resurrection? Acts 1:15 have the answer, they were just 120 of them left. The rest of them Christ told them i know you not. Hence, few people entered the kingdom of God. Remember this same people prophesied, cast out demons and healed people with Christ while Christ was yet alive on earth. What am i say? Let's not quote scriptures written 2000 years ago and refer sinners of today to the scripture saying the scripture is talking about them there is no intelligence in doing that, because you don't know who the scripture was referring to. You have to learn how to read scriptures intelligently, This is why white men are far better than blacks, they are very intelligent. And so? Does this gives us the power to judge sinners? Whosoever has not sinned before let him cast the first stone on her. Let's say Jerry was truly a sinner. As a church you went ahead to bring him out to confess his sin before the public as if the church is saint and do not commit sin themselves, what kind of church are you? we know! But Christ was patient with sinners, but your church is not and no one is holy in that church either So? |
Re: Jerry Kumuyi, Pastor Kumuyi's Son Confesses About His Salvation by Informer155(m): 6:55pm On Dec 03, 2019 |
paxonel:Chai!!! oga can't believed you type those words. don't you err because you don't know the scriptures? seriously I can see why you skipped the book of revelation......I am speechless because a Christian that said Bible(especially words of Jesus) is a story of the past,and for the people of the past have not really believed that the foundation... let me tell you sir.The Words of Jesus is a living word forever and ever, it will remained true and applicable as long as earth exist.don't joke with the word of God.check this. "I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world." John 17:14 WHICH WORDS DID JESUS SPEAK DURING HIS DAYS ? can't you see that Mathew also recorded that; "And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach ALL NATIONS baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: TEACHING them to observe all things WHATSOEVER I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen." math 28:18-20 JUST THINK ABOUT THE BOLDED!! and the whole statement. Christianity is not a joke brother. so you think the words of Jesus are stories of the ancients and for the ancient?? "Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;" heb 1:3 let me purse here sef....bro do you really believed that JESUS IS GOD!!!? Who is God sef? do you really understand what you are saying at all. that's how Daddy freeze do err woooo...... LESSON:ALWAYS REMEMBER that JESUS IS/WAS/AND still GOD. FINALLY: All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works." 2tim 3: I can't argue with you about the word of God.may God give us understanding all.thanks |
Re: Jerry Kumuyi, Pastor Kumuyi's Son Confesses About His Salvation by Informer155(m): 7:26pm On Dec 03, 2019 |
Mr paxonel we need to chat on whasapp.....if u won't mind. how do you split your comments like that? I mean section by section I don't know how to do that pls help...maybe the gist can go on here |
Re: Jerry Kumuyi, Pastor Kumuyi's Son Confesses About His Salvation by paxonel(m): 9:59pm On Dec 03, 2019 |
Informer155:take a look at the screen shot below. To open a section input the word "quote" into the parenthesis [ ] To close the section before commenting on it inpute the word "/quote" into the parenthesis [ ]then make your comment on that section and click submit You can also click on the yellow emoji among all the green emogies in the message icons on your comment page to get a ready made "quote" in parenthesis. Put your sentence inbetween and comment on the same sentence outside the parenthesis then click submit and see what will happen
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Re: Jerry Kumuyi, Pastor Kumuyi's Son Confesses About His Salvation by paxonel(m): 10:32pm On Dec 03, 2019 |
Informer155:what book of revelation? See, there is nothing hidden under the sun that someone cannot understand. it is true now! Jesus made that statement in the past and it was strictly for people of that time, not now. When you hear people say the word of God for us today, the word of God for us today is strictly the 10 commandments : though shall not kill, thou shall not lie, thou shall not commit sin. Anything in the bible outside these commandments are just stories for us to know what happened. They are not for us to take them like, "the word of God'" God is more interested in our present lives today than what happened in the past. Have you read Jesus saying the least person in God's kingdom is greater than John the Baptist? Luke 7:28. Of a truth we are greater than John the Baptist and everyone living in that past, while John the Baptist is greater than all the prophets living in old testament which was his past. Today, I'm using computer, drives in a beautiful car and lives comfortably in a well designed smart world, John the Baptist could not afford all that in his time. We have the power : there is a chapter of the bible that is written about us, far more important than what happened in the past, You don't know what you are capable of very true! you are absolutely right here. but like have said, we are here to uphold this same words of Jesus forever no matter the changes that comes with time. I am not daddy freeze! I soon understand that everyone are still learning about this bible including all pastors. There is so much to know that we haven't known yet, its like we have not yet started. thanks |
Re: Jerry Kumuyi, Pastor Kumuyi's Son Confesses About His Salvation by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:02am On Dec 04, 2019 |
paxonel: Did you get this 'knowledge' by being born into a Christian home? paxonel: Believing in Christ is not enough you still have to repent and show fruit of repentance. paxonel: Leave Muslims out of this and answer the question. Jerry has already answer the question in the videoclip. Are you born again? paxonel: You don't know Jerry because Jerry is not the one who got married in Jamaica. You lied and you are not a good person. You are a liar and this is why you need to repent and believe the gospel truth. paxonel: Let me give you another chance to dig yourself out of the ditch. Was it Jerry that got married in Jamaica or not? paxonel: |
Re: Jerry Kumuyi, Pastor Kumuyi's Son Confesses About His Salvation by paxonel(m): 1:09pm On Dec 04, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU:no! we are all students of the bible very true! But repentance did not and will never justify anyone into eternal life, Only faith in Christ do. Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.(without repentance). It's a conclusion. However, Repentance is only good for our successful living here on this earth(not for eternal life). repentance is not just for Christians, everyone including Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, judaists, atheists, can repent too I have answered your question in my previous post what are you talking? I said the right question should be are you a Christian? and i gave reasons. it might not be in Jamaica. May be I'm confusing that of the other brother where they got married. But certainly i am sure the lady Jerry got married to is from Jamaica, She isn't Nigerian. That notwithstanding, i know him to be liberal person unlike his father and the deeper life church who are conservative and you can't dispute that. what's the meaning of all these if I'm a good person or not, how does that affect you? Did i tell you i was good? OK, it wasn't Jerry that got married in Jamaica, are you satisfied now Keep looking for one error you can use to say i lied, it won't change the fact that i know him. Mere the fact that his daddy is well known anything unusual that happens to him everyone who cares knows. |
Re: Jerry Kumuyi, Pastor Kumuyi's Son Confesses About His Salvation by Insectkiller: 10:10pm On Dec 05, 2019 |
OP you must be very stupidd for this post... Infact, today makes u d most stupidd entity on planet Earth.. 1 advice: Work out your own salvation and don't be stupidd. |
Re: Jerry Kumuyi, Pastor Kumuyi's Son Confesses About His Salvation by mechanics(m): 12:34am On Dec 07, 2019 |
Wow, a touching story, the salvation of our parents won't take us to heaven, it has to be personal, that God for the live transforming story. |
Re: Jerry Kumuyi, Pastor Kumuyi's Son Confesses About His Salvation by Ratello: 10:49am On Dec 18, 2019 |
gracefoundmme: I love his sincerity and that of his long time friend. 1 Like 1 Share |
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