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Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Centcanada: 3:59pm On Apr 24, 2020
You re showing the world that your fighting corruption and the corruption under the Umbrella of late chief of staff Abba Kayri is more than what you can think of. Wicked government! Pay the cash palliative you said you wanna pay to common man on the street through BVN, you refuse to. This government is in mess.
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by 9jatriot(m): 4:00pm On Apr 24, 2020
Let us use this analogy to answer your question. Imagine a bank like GTB with many branches all over the country. In this case, let FG be the employer the same way GTB is the employer, let the branches be like the different federal universities all over the country.

Now imagine one staff employed in Ado Ekiti branch of GTB and collecting salary from there, can this same staff go to GTB in Aba branch to be working and collecting salary without affecting his work at his parent branch in Ado Ekiti? So FG, the employer is saying if you are in a federal university in Ado Ekiti, let us know you are there and know those in Aba federal university.

Lecturers will argue that sometimes they go on sabbatical leave from one university to the other, a GTB staff will also argue that sometimes, he can leave that Ado Ekiti branch to Aba branch for a period of time for an audit or special job that he has to do in that branch. In this case, the employer (GTB) will be aware, approve it and pay him accordingly. But ASUU want FG to pay them salary in Ado Ekiti and same thing in Aba university, if you are the employer will you agree?

wolfenstein:
Please don't be angry guys o abeg, abeg I wan know something, is it wrong for a lecturer to have multiple jobs, as far as their doing their jobs well? Then the FG who are complaining, doesn't the senators or House of rep members collect multiple salaries?

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Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by voltron14: 4:01pm On Apr 24, 2020
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ejibaba:


They are not complaining of excess workload from other schools stop this crap. It's well... you guys are paid 30k to run down other people's life...keep it up...

This is not an issue of excess workload...it's about a policy that will affect the university system...how much do you think University lecturers earn?? How much?? That will warrant unnecessary frustration from government...

A school in UK and even SA will employ a supervisor for you for the 2 or more years period of your thesis and dissertation. There is
exchange program and a host of other programs that allows a lecturer learn salary from her school and other schools that their services are rendered temporarily.

Don't join this government destroy the public universities because the government will come and go but Nigeria will remain and when your children complain of the terrible state of our Universities be so sure you will be bold to tell them you collected 30k to through social media destroy the university system.
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The minute you post that people are receiving money to post their opinion is the minute you lose any credibility.

How much are being paid to air your own opinion?

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Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by jericco1(m): 4:02pm On Apr 24, 2020
Obviously but they're gonna fight tooth and nail to make sure they defeat it
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by michoim(m): 4:02pm On Apr 24, 2020
If ASUU is sincere they should release their BVN. Are they different from the rest of other Nigerians? What are they feeling like? Who are they by the way? They should be thought some hard lessons...

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Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Meritocracy: 4:03pm On Apr 24, 2020
nairavsdollars:
Whats wrong in lecturers having multiple jobs? As long as they are not ghost workers

There's nothing wrong but some brilliant youth are jobless

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Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by WaleGab: 4:04pm On Apr 24, 2020
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voltron14:
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The minute you post that people are receiving money to post their opinion is the minute you lose any credibility.

How much are being paid to air your own opinion?
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Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by linearity: 4:05pm On Apr 24, 2020
rexlims:
very lame excuse from FG.
my reasons are;
1. is it that before now these lecturers receive their stipends by hand?
2. is FG saying that these lectures teaching in other schools use different names and Ids?

The FG is doing the right thing here, you can’t be a full time employee in more than one company, neither should lecturers.

You will agree that, there is corruption in Nigeria and to fight it, the way things use to be done have to change.

If the demand is trivial and Lecturers have been open about their work with multiple institutions, why the push back on producing their BVN?
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Nobody: 4:06pm On Apr 24, 2020
How do we expose senators receiving multiple allowances?? I mean using BVN??
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Nobody: 4:06pm On Apr 24, 2020
Nukilia:
Lecturers don suffer! grin grin

Quota system folks are teaching them common sense

When they were using them to rig election, they never knew it will be like this afterwards.

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Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by jolyment: 4:07pm On Apr 24, 2020
kokoA:
Lecturers be complaining of excess workload in their primary place of work yet they work in multiple universities.. I don gerrit mehn.. They want government to be paying them for excess workloads in multiple universities.. Haba!

Lecturers don't collect excess workload in many places, they can only collect excess workload in one university. Few of them even work in more than one place, doing sabbatical or visiting or part time. I think government should monitor lecturers violating the rules of engagement on it or cancel sabbatical etc. But these sabbatical ,visiting etc are in line with their staff conditions. The only thing I know is that if ASUU didn't hold the scrotum of FG very well. They will introduce tuition fees in universities or turn universities too primary schools. Imagine if FG should introduce 400k tuition fees, this is part of the reasons why FG dislike ASUU. ASUU is against tuition fees.FG empowers University Governing Council on the issues of salaries, FG should remove Governing Council and I think with this, lecturers will have no option than to register with IPPIS.

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Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Temptee101(m): 4:08pm On Apr 24, 2020
zionmde:
Lecturers are under FG
they should heed to their employers and submit their BVN
afterall FG can still get it without their permission


It's true the FG can get anybody's BVN if they so desire.

But the main reason of requesting lecturers themselves submit their BVN to their V.Cs, is to get the accurate number of active lecturers because many them have retired or died and most of our universities are filled with ghost workers.

FG don't have these accurate information but the universities.

So by personally submitting your BVN and signature, will give FG the information they so desired

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Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by xpiranza88: 4:09pm On Apr 24, 2020
Last last fg will pay them after all these noise....
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by wolfenstein(m): 4:10pm On Apr 24, 2020
9jatriot:
Let us use this analogy to answer your question. Imagine a bank like GTB with many branches all over the country. In this case, let FG be the employer the same way GTB is the employer, let the branches be like the different federal universities all over the country.

Now imagine one staff employed in Ado Ekiti branch of GTB and collecting salary from there, can this same staff go to GTB in Aba branch to be working and collecting salary without affecting his work at his parent branch in Ado Ekiti? So FG, the employer is saying if you are in a federal university in Ado Ekiti, let us know you are there and know those in Aba federal university.

Lecturers will argue that sometimes they go on sabbatical leave from one university to the other, a GTB staff will also argue that sometimes, he can leave that Ado Ekiti branch to Aba branch for a period of time for may audit or special job that he has to do. In this case, the employer (GTB) will be aware and pay him accordingly. But ASUU want FG to pay them salary in Ado Ekiti and same thing in Aba university, if you are the employer will you agree?

Bro I understand u very well, but if a lecturer his parent University is uniben and assuming he lectures in business administration, his lecture time is let's say 9am-1pm and then he has another lecture in Ambrose Alli University by 4pm-6pm then it should be the school that invited him that will pay him his salary and not the FG, as far as he does his work well. I don't really see it as much of a problem.

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Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by sugarboy1142: 4:10pm On Apr 24, 2020
They should submit there BVN period
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by MishaelC(m): 4:11pm On Apr 24, 2020
Methink, it need ASUU to use common sense here. That means, submit the BVN and wait to see the result.
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by 1stKing: 4:12pm On Apr 24, 2020
I didn't even think of it this way
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by ArcSEMPECJ(m): 4:15pm On Apr 24, 2020
The system is already corrupt.....as you can't come to my office telling me to cut off corruption when your own office is the masterpiece of corruption.......
How much does Senators earn?...house of reps and co...
Why are they after lectures that they pay peanuts?

There should be a total overhauling starting from the federal Government to all the legislature, jailing people who are found guilty as the law demands.....

Then with this moves, every other government agency or body won't be arguing with the federal Government
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Areaboyfriend(m): 4:15pm On Apr 24, 2020
Lecturer should be allowed to get multiple jobs.
How much is FG paying them for them to stick to one job.
FG doesn't know what they call side hustle, maybe that's why you keep running the economy on crude oil. grin

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Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by omonnakoda: 4:15pm On Apr 24, 2020
linearity:


The FG is doing the right thing here, you can’t be a full time employee in more than one company, neither should lecturers.

You will agree that, there is corruption in Nigeria and to fight it, the way things use to be done have to change.
Government cannot be plaintiff and judge in it's own matter.
The same reliefs that are available to ANY OTHER EMPLOYER in such a situation are what should be available to government if we operate rule of law.

You say
you can’t be a full time employee in more than one company, neither should lecturers

Is that a moral or legal issue. What does the employment contract say.?

If Lecturers are in breach of contract then follow the law just like ANY OTHER EMPLOYER

This is a clear case of Guilty until proven innocent. To make allegations about double jobs and all of that is interesting but

The key issues are

What does the employment contract say
Where is the evidence of this
Is unilateral action the solution

If any individual Lecturer breaches his contract or breaks the law does that mean collective punishment is the solution ?
Gather the evidence and prosecute or sanction him appropriately.

All I can see is an assumption that this is happening without a shred of evidence that is the case or even that it breaches their contract

Surely the government has all the resources to provide evidence of just ONE CASE?

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Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by jolyment: 4:15pm On Apr 24, 2020
GreenKalada:
The bastard lecturers should forward their BVN. Thief's all they k ow is to collect sorting from students... Useless fools

Ode
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by DarkJeddi(m): 4:17pm On Apr 24, 2020
Breeze done blow, fowl nyash done.. shocked
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by lacucaracha: 4:20pm On Apr 24, 2020
GreenKalada:
The bastard lecturers should forward their BVN. Thief's all they k ow is to collect sorting from students... Useless fools

Bros! Are you not being too harsh with those your words.
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by pafisayo(m): 4:21pm On Apr 24, 2020
erad:



You really thought you made sense... SMH.

@ the bolded...
Is anyone forcing them to stay?
If the conditions of your employment are not favorable, then leave the job.
Teaching never used to be about money, it was about passion.
Facts be told, tertiary education in Nigeria is the most fraudulent.
Lecturers shortchanging students while at the same time frustrating them.

It's not every right thinking person that is a stooge.
It's sad your understanding is not beyond what it is and I definitely can't help you now.
But always trying to twist the narrative to suite your biases will only do more damage to your already unimpressive thought level.

Millions of students are shortchanged yearly by these same lecturers but I guess they don't matter.

F**king hypocrite.

Thank you !
Public university system that’s already been destroyed by the so call Custodian called lecturers etc .
A large number of male who make 2:1 most likely paid for Slot-in after exams ( sometimes as high 12k per course )
Female students also pay either with money or their body!
Not to talk of the oppresion sexual molestation and sexual abuse these people make their students go through .
A female friend of mine complained about his lecturer in IFE. I told her to make sure all their conversations are recorded maybe someday she would use it as leverage. Uncle lecturer turned up the TV set volume to 100 as soon as he walked in and asked her to place her bag at a reasonable distance .
These same set of people are the reason why a 4 year course is an automatic 5year plus .
That’s 1year extra allowance 1year extra house rent for students staying off or on campus etc it it is The Nigerian parents that suffers these excess for Cost.
And at every opportunity they get , they hold the nation to Ransom .
They would easily top the list of workers in Nigeria who spend more time at home doing noting or doing their personal business all in the name of Strike and still get paid.
The list is endless .
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by jolyment: 4:22pm On Apr 24, 2020
erad:


Thank you very much.

See ignorant people up there saying rubbish about the government having their bvn without realizing that just because they have it does not make it legal for them to access it.

If the government decides to extract the bvn without the lecturers permission, it's the same simpletons that will shout tyranny.

Nigerians always think they know all, when they know absolutely nothing.

I'm waiting for the day Nigerians will start approaching issues from a position of objectivity and no through personal/political sentiments and bias.

CBN is the custodian of BVN and FG owns CBN. That's why people are saying they should access their bvn from their account numbers.
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Fkj202004: 4:22pm On Apr 24, 2020
I have read so many comments here that lecturers have something that they are hiding. Well, they are trying only to safeguard their source of income in which the FG wants to take away.

Let me point to you that it is simply not wrong for any lecturer to lecture in more than one university. It is because there are no much lecturers in federal or even state universities; that is why you see one lecturer handling almost 4000 students which is not supposed to be so. So the few that is available tries to go to other schools to lecture as visiting-lecturer and even part time, and so they must be paid.

Now FG is trying every possible way to cut that off.

Who are they deceiving?

Mind you am not a lecturer not to talk of been an ASUU member.
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by 9jatriot(m): 4:23pm On Apr 24, 2020
You are also correct but in your example you used a state university and a federal university. In this case, I think it is what they refer in academic cycles as visiting lecturers, that is a documented process.
Assuming we take UI and Unilag since they are a little close to each other and are both federal schools. The FG wants to be sure that no lecturer is drawing full salary from both schools. So, if a lecturer in UI happens to be handling a research in Unilag, nothing wrong with that, but FG wants to know what exactly you are doing. So that if there is need to only pay you basic salary in one school and research allowance in the other school, you will be entitled to it. Since the employer says this is what we want, when did employees start dictating mode of payment?

wolfenstein:

Bro I understand u very well, but if a lecturer his parent University is uniben and assuming he lectures in business administration, his lecture time is let's say 9am-1pm and then he has another lecture in Ambrose Alli University by 4pm-6pm then it should be the school that invited him that will pay him his salary and not the FG, as far as he does his work well. I don't really see it as much of a problem.

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Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by DarkJeddi(m): 4:24pm On Apr 24, 2020
kikero:
The reason why lecturers have multiple jobs is simple...Nigeria does not have enough lecturers.

Indeed, the NUC issued a report in 2012 that pointed this problem of lecturer shortages out. And 8 years later, it is still a big problem

As a result, lecturers have jobs in 2 or 3 universities, because if they did not, many of those universities, mostly private, would lose their accreditation immediately. And with the number of people writing and passing JAMB far higher than the number of available spaces for them in university, that is a disaster waiting to happen.

Also, there is something called 'sabbatical' where lectures go and do some academic work elsewhere in another university, using facilities that their uni might not have. If government cuts that off because they want to stop waste...what would happen next.

Yes, let us get this IPPIS thing on the ground...but let the Educaiton ministry be realistic....otherwise, we may end up with universities lacking lecturers.
Being a Lecturer does not require a Professional qualification in most instances,a BSc and Master degree holder in relevant and allied areas can conveniently be employed to be a Lecturer..

These Lecturers run multiple jobs not because of any scarcity of qualified candidates to be employed,but because they don't want to give chances for new recruits..

Let them provide their BVN and stop dancing around, they are not the only government employees to have their BVN submitted..

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Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by dokyOloye: 4:26pm On Apr 24, 2020
rexlims:
very lame excuse from FG.
my reasons are;
1. is it that before now these lecturers receive their stipends by hand?
2. is FG saying that these lectures teaching in other schools use different names and Ids?
My thoughts exactly.
The govt doesn't even need their permission to pull their BVN.
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Whois(m): 4:26pm On Apr 24, 2020
You need to submit bvn when applying for loan so I see no big deal why they don't want to submit their bvn for purpose of transparency. If hunger wire them they will do the needful
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Nobody: 4:26pm On Apr 24, 2020
Lol, FG is just being crooky,are the senators subjected to the same process the FG wants ASUU to undertake?

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