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Re: Strike: We Will Explore Other Options If ASUU Remains Adamant - Ngige by dumodust(m): 2:24pm On Nov 14, 2020
Alexis11:


God bless you. Only few persons are knowledgeable like you to know that ASUU fight is only about that fraudulent IPPIS.
Who says it's entirely fraudulent? Can you compare it to the old system of sending bulk funds to the universities? We were there at the start of IPPIS yrs ago and usually has this starting data entry hiccups that are Ultimately rectified and then it runs smoothly for new entrants. It can also accommodate additions if negotiated high up and established. This ASUU and FG fully dallying is emboldening other associations to rebel. I am on IPPIS and I am completely satisfied, my pensions are remitted when due and I get my arrears, promotions and upgrades in a timely manner. The Fg is running the ship, you can't just bring the unsolicited UTAS and expect to ram it down your employer's throat. If you don't like the terms, pls resign.
ASUU's membership even increased recently because of IPPIS because the VCs where forced to fill their employment quota, money that they had been eating and diverting for yrs from understaffing. I understand no system is perfect but this IPPIS has done some good and also cut off corruption at the lower levels, at least let's fight the battle higher up.
Re: Strike: We Will Explore Other Options If ASUU Remains Adamant - Ngige by dumodust(m): 2:29pm On Nov 14, 2020
Nauttyprof:
This government is sick. UTAS is subjected to trials by National Information Technology Development Agency and still at the second phase. Can they tell us what happened to IPPIS when it overpaid and underpaid some lecturers?

I just don't understand the way this government think everyone does not matter except the politicians.

Even the old system had initial errors of underpayment and overpayment, pls complain and have it rectified. I have also been underpaid once while working abroad and my calling their attention to it solved the problem. Stop hyping administrative issues, IPPIS pays depending on the data inputed.
Re: Strike: We Will Explore Other Options If ASUU Remains Adamant - Ngige by OscarJaden(m): 2:49pm On Nov 14, 2020
IamRandy:


And you think I am surprised

because if that CALAMITY at the head campaigns 3rd term, ZOMBIES LIKE YOU will vote him againgringrin

You better grab life lessons from that ILoveDemMANNAgringrin so that you won't end up like him...His gnashing of teeth just begancheesycheesycheesy
so you think everybody on this forum is either afonja or zombies with your shallow brain and tribalistic attitude.....

you better wise up mr
Re: Strike: We Will Explore Other Options If ASUU Remains Adamant - Ngige by martius101(m): 3:13pm On Nov 14, 2020
Cutehector:
Nigerian students need to speak up! Maybe they are tired of school that is why they feel relaxed.



I no go lie...I don tire..plus I no go graduate na to go learn one skill remain...
Re: Strike: We Will Explore Other Options If ASUU Remains Adamant - Ngige by Iconstar: 4:06pm On Nov 14, 2020
Anniemae:


We're not tired...I don't care how long this strike goes on..let fg and ASUU meet a good agreement
.so we'd be sure they won't strike next year too or the year after..cuz I'm tired of the breaks and all

Speak for urself please
Re: Strike: We Will Explore Other Options If ASUU Remains Adamant - Ngige by Nauttyprof(m): 4:21pm On Nov 14, 2020
dumodust:

Even the old system had initial errors of underpayment and overpayment, pls complain and have it rectified. I have also been underpaid once while working abroad and my calling their attention to it solved the problem. Stop hyping administrative issues, IPPIS pays depending on the data inputed.

IPPIS pays and yet, the government keeps paying for using the platform when UTAS is free.

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Re: Strike: We Will Explore Other Options If ASUU Remains Adamant - Ngige by Saintinoo(m): 4:50pm On Nov 14, 2020
Ibegtodiffer:


Shameful & emotion ridden Comment.
Well bros, i didn't come here to join issues with anyone, even if ASUU go on strike for 600years, i doesn't concern nor involve me. ASUU president made thesame comment i made that FGN should remove IPPIS and they will suspend their strike as a sign of goodwill, maybe you should start being updated.
Re: Strike: We Will Explore Other Options If ASUU Remains Adamant - Ngige by Ibegtodiffer: 5:16pm On Nov 14, 2020
Saintinoo:

Well bros, i didn't come here to join issues with anyone, even if ASUU go on strike for 600years, i doesn't concern nor involve me. ASUU president made thesame comment i made that FGN should remove IPPIS and they will suspend their strike as a sign of goodwill, maybe you should start being updated.

I'm truly sorry I sounded rude.
Re: Strike: We Will Explore Other Options If ASUU Remains Adamant - Ngige by cijero26(m): 5:36pm On Nov 14, 2020
FG should honour her agreement with ASUU. we in NASU need our promotion arrears and minimum wage/ arrears too

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Re: Strike: We Will Explore Other Options If ASUU Remains Adamant - Ngige by Saintinoo(m): 5:40pm On Nov 14, 2020
Ibegtodiffer:

I'm truly sorry I sounded rude.
Not a problem bro...
Re: Strike: We Will Explore Other Options If ASUU Remains Adamant - Ngige by dumodust(m): 6:06pm On Nov 14, 2020
Nauttyprof:


IPPIS pays and yet, the government keeps paying for using the platform when UTAS is free.
Have you ever used free software? For continued developer support, routine maintenance, warding off hacker attacks and fixing of glitches, you need to pay.
That's why free anti-virus software is useless.
If UTAS is free, good for it, but what about the future?
I pay for computer anti-virus for my devices every year and I have never had any issues. Issues mean loss of data and money
Re: Strike: We Will Explore Other Options If ASUU Remains Adamant - Ngige by dumodust(m): 6:07pm On Nov 14, 2020
Nauttyprof:


IPPIS pays and yet, the government keeps paying for using the platform when UTAS is free.
And also remember we are dealing with very sensitive data here, any breach will be catastrophic
Re: Strike: We Will Explore Other Options If ASUU Remains Adamant - Ngige by Nauttyprof(m): 6:19pm On Nov 14, 2020
dumodust:

Have you ever used free software? For continued developer support, routine maintenance, warding off hacker attacks and fixing of glitches, you need to pay.
That's why free anti-virus software is useless.
If UTAS is free, good for it, but what about the future?
I pay for computer anti-virus for my devices every year and I have never had any issues. Issues mean loss of data and money

Anti-virus is different from a payment platform.

The same way they built IPPIS and government is paying for the platform is not different from the built UTAS given free. Both are built.

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Re: Strike: We Will Explore Other Options If ASUU Remains Adamant - Ngige by Nauttyprof(m): 6:23pm On Nov 14, 2020
dumodust:

And also remember we are dealing with very sensitive data here, any breach will be catastrophic

What breach? Are government platforms not breached also? So, please stop raising dust over this.

This is the reason why we never value our own and also believe the other is superior. For ASUU to have developed UTAS, they also have considered and weighed all issues too. Stop sounding as if these people are illiterate and not knowledgeable while the government know so much.

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Re: Strike: We Will Explore Other Options If ASUU Remains Adamant - Ngige by Anniemae(f): 7:22pm On Nov 14, 2020
Iconstar:
Speak for urself please

I hope you won't be disappointed if there's a strike next year too
Re: Strike: We Will Explore Other Options If ASUU Remains Adamant - Ngige by Anniemae(f): 7:23pm On Nov 14, 2020
Cutehector:
lol your statement is contradicting. You aren't tired, you are tired of the breaks and all.. Hanty why? cheesy

I'm tired of the strikes..but I'd prefer they resolve whatever ish they have this year once and for all..I don't want any strike next year or the year after
Re: Strike: We Will Explore Other Options If ASUU Remains Adamant - Ngige by Emmmy360(m): 7:42pm On Nov 14, 2020
Bmaster:
When many first year students Don turn to housewives finish.


Kwantinu...
My cousemate marry today d good thing say na final yr
Re: Strike: We Will Explore Other Options If ASUU Remains Adamant - Ngige by Cutehector(m): 8:00pm On Nov 14, 2020
Anniemae:


I'm tired of the strikes..but I'd prefer they resolve whatever ish they have this year once and for all..I don't want any strike next year or the year after
this is Nigeria.
Re: Strike: We Will Explore Other Options If ASUU Remains Adamant - Ngige by Chibueze90: 8:53pm On Nov 14, 2020
dumodust:

Who says it's entirely fraudulent? Can you compare it to the old system of sending bulk funds to the universities? We were there at the start of IPPIS yrs ago and usually has this starting data entry hiccups that are Ultimately rectified and then it runs smoothly for new entrants. It can also accommodate additions if negotiated high up and established. This ASUU and FG fully dallying is emboldening other associations to rebel. I am on IPPIS and I am completely satisfied, my pensions are remitted when due and I get my arrears, promotions and upgrades in a timely manner. The Fg is running the ship, you can't just bring the unsolicited UTAS and expect to ram it down your employer's throat. If you don't like the terms, pls resign.
ASUU's membership even increased recently because of IPPIS because the VCs where forced to fill their employment quota, money that they had been eating and diverting for yrs from understaffing. I understand no system is perfect but this IPPIS has done some good and also cut off corruption at the lower levels, at least let's fight the battle higher up.

oga nobody is saying Ippis is a fraud...what ASUU are saying is that ippis cannot cover universities peculiarities, ssanu ,naat, nasu and asup re being paid by Ippis since 2020 and up till now those unions re still complaining of irregularities in there payment.. a platform that cannot correct workers pay for successful 9+ month should clearly tell u that truly ippis can't do universities job. SIMPLE
Re: Strike: We Will Explore Other Options If ASUU Remains Adamant - Ngige by Chibueze90: 9:01pm On Nov 14, 2020
dumodust:

Even the old system had initial errors of underpayment and overpayment, pls complain and have it rectified. I have also been underpaid once while working abroad and my calling their attention to it solved the problem. Stop hyping administrative issues, IPPIS pays depending on the data inputed.

oga check Pengasson, nasu, asup, college of education, ssnau have been complaining since February, by nothing has been done..
do you know why it's taking months?
let me tell you this that ippis was rented to fg and no modifications can be done on the platform here in Nigeria becos the BACKEND of the platform is in USA...any modifications will require additional charge on the 12$ per enrolee yearly due fg pays to them..
Which sensible country will entrust the data of there country to a foreign country?
Re: Strike: We Will Explore Other Options If ASUU Remains Adamant - Ngige by Chibueze90: 9:08pm On Nov 14, 2020
Nauttyprof:


What breach? Are government platforms not breached also? So, please stop raising dust over this.

This is the reason why we never value our own and also believe the other is superior. For ASUU to have developed UTAS, they also have considered and weighed all issues too. Stop sounding as if these people are illiterate and not knowledgeable while the government know so much.
powerful reply my brother...this country can never progess if we don't learn on encouraging our own product.. fg pays close to 5bn naira to world bank just for a platform yearly for maintenance and charges While our academia could develop a similar stuff for FREE..
even if errors was found on utas, we should also applaud and encourage them and not criticism.

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Re: Strike: We Will Explore Other Options If ASUU Remains Adamant - Ngige by Nauttyprof(m): 9:33pm On Nov 14, 2020
Chibueze90:

powerful reply my brother...this country can never progess if we don't learn on encouraging our own product.. fg pays close to 5bn naira to world bank just for a platform yearly for maintenance and charges While our academia could develop a similar stuff for FREE..
even if errors was found on utas, we should also applaud and encourage them and not criticism.

We cannot develop as a Nation. Rather than look inward, we depend so much on others for whatever they invent.

I keep asking one question, why do we have several research institute and institutions of higher learning, yet, we are not developing science and technology wise? If we all get to the root of this, we will discover that we have a bad government always wasteful just to loot.
Re: Strike: We Will Explore Other Options If ASUU Remains Adamant - Ngige by dumodust(m): 10:44pm On Nov 14, 2020
Chibueze90:


oga check Pengasson, nasu, asup, college of education, ssnau have been complaining since February, by nothing has been done..
do you know why it's taking months?
let me tell you this that ippis was rented to fg and no modifications can be done on the platform here in Nigeria becos the BACKEND of the platform is in USA...any modifications will require additional charge on the 12$ per enrolee yearly due fg pays to them..
Which sensible country will entrust the data of there country to a foreign country?
Can you list some of the complaints here pls? People complain a lot, maybe the right tax was applied and they started crying wolf. if federal healthcare institutions with their own peculiarities are using IPPIS, what's so peculiar about nasu and ssanu? What's so peculiar about pengassan pls? We need to know because all workers have these so called 'pecularities'. All I see is that the chopping was removed from Lower down and moved up.
Which backend is in the USA exactly and which company? The whole effing internet routes through servers in the US and other parts of the world outside Nigeria and nothing has happened.
Re: Strike: We Will Explore Other Options If ASUU Remains Adamant - Ngige by Coolgent(m): 10:46pm On Nov 14, 2020
In the Northern Nigeria ASUU has done a lot in bring PMB government on board especially in 2015 general election.
Now they are riping what they sow
Re: Strike: We Will Explore Other Options If ASUU Remains Adamant - Ngige by dumodust(m): 10:46pm On Nov 14, 2020
Chibueze90:


oga nobody is saying Ippis is a fraud...what ASUU are saying is that ippis cannot cover universities peculiarities, ssanu ,naat, nasu and asup re being paid by Ippis since 2020 and up till now those unions re still complaining of irregularities in there payment.. a platform that cannot correct workers pay for successful 9+ month should clearly tell u that truly ippis can't do universities job. SIMPLE
Like I said, we were there at the start of IPPIS and it took a while to conform as it is a new experience. Give it time.
I have been paid wrongly or not being paid at all for long periods under the old system. The old system also had spurious deductions and sometimes tax and pension We'rent remitted.
Calm down
Re: Strike: We Will Explore Other Options If ASUU Remains Adamant - Ngige by dumodust(m): 10:50pm On Nov 14, 2020
Nauttyprof:


What breach? Are government platforms not breached also? So, please stop raising dust over this.

This is the reason why we never value our own and also believe the other is superior. For ASUU to have developed UTAS, they also have considered and weighed all issues too. Stop sounding as if these people are illiterate and not knowledgeable while the government know so much.
I never said UTAS was inferior, I am just saying that you can't just produce free software without continuity. It's still an untested platform no matter what ASUU says and who says we must trust the developers because they are Nigerian? If my employee went home and brought a software for me to pay him with, naturally I will be suspicious. let's remove sentiments at look at this issue from the side
Re: Strike: We Will Explore Other Options If ASUU Remains Adamant - Ngige by raphaeladeyele: 4:33am On Nov 15, 2020
Hmmmm since all.these days
Re: Strike: We Will Explore Other Options If ASUU Remains Adamant - Ngige by Nauttyprof(m): 5:35am On Nov 15, 2020
dumodust:

I never said UTAS was inferior, I am just saying that you can't just produce free software without continuity. It's still an untested platform no matter what ASUU says and who says we must trust the developers because they are Nigerian? If my employee went home and brought a software for me to pay him with, naturally I will be suspicious. let's remove sentiments at look at this issue from the side

There is no sentiment in this. Your thoughts have revealed the usual sentiment.

No wonder the likes of Facebook and Twitter owners will come to Nigeria, pick our people to help grow their brand but the usual Nigerian thought will never make us see that we are good on our own.

Besides, why sound as if Lecturers who came up with this are illiterate and not knowledgeable. You keep reasoning as if you are speaking of people who don't know what they are doing. You talked about continuity, even a learner in I.T world knows this.

It is okay to be skeptical after asking ASUU to come up with a payment platform, right? Only to do a U-turn and go for IPPIS where government pay heavily for the platform. Besides, where is the place of test running and then, accept this than the hasty way of being always wasteful with the sole aim of looting in some cases.

Please, stop raising dust like I stated earlier.
Re: Strike: We Will Explore Other Options If ASUU Remains Adamant - Ngige by Chibueze90: 6:31am On Nov 15, 2020
dumodust:

I never said UTAS was inferior, I am just saying that you can't just produce free software without continuity. It's still an untested platform no matter what ASUU says and who says we must trust the developers because they are Nigerian? If my employee went home and brought a software for me to pay him with, naturally I will be suspicious. let's remove sentiments at look at this issue from the side

then what are you trying to say?
like you said, their must be continuity.
your point is that you will rather accept to buy a software from a stranger than the one a friend gave u for FREE?

SIR an IT expert cannot just assume and conclude that a software is impotent base on mere assumption, there conclusion will be base on the result obtained from series of testing,
re you aware that utas just passed the first phase (major) of niitda integrity test?
Re: Strike: We Will Explore Other Options If ASUU Remains Adamant - Ngige by Chibueze90: 6:34am On Nov 15, 2020
dumodust:

Like I said, we were there at the start of IPPIS and it took a while to conform as it is a new experience. Give it time.
I have been paid wrongly or not being paid at all for long periods under the old system. The old system also had spurious deductions and sometimes tax and pension We'rent remitted.
Calm down
can you pls tell us how long it took them to rectify your payment?...
6,7,8,9 or 12 months
Re: Strike: We Will Explore Other Options If ASUU Remains Adamant - Ngige by Chibueze90: 6:40am On Nov 15, 2020
Chibueze90:

can you pls tell us how long it took them to rectify your payment?...
6,7,8,9 or 12 months

A software that requires 10 to 12 months to modify some corrections should not be encouraged...

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