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Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by Dannyfan(m): 12:22pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
I come accross this message a week ago on Vanguard News Page on Facebook, I was so confused that I had to conclude it's a fake news, because Apostle Selman is someone I love so much as a pastor. Just yesterday I saw the update on a friend status. I had to ask him what he has to say on the topic and if he had the message himself. Now I am bringing this topic to nairaland so that people will have to contribute and share their opinions. All your contributions are greatly welcome. Note:- please you can share me if you have this message by Apostle Selman.
http://community.vanguardngr.com/m/discussion?id=4565467%3ATopic%3A3013632 2 Likes |
Re: Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by Pierocash(m): 12:26pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
Dannyfan:how can we contribute on a topic we don't know the content of the message. Or we should just start commenting just by mere headline. It is either you are trying to be mischievous towards the author, or you just want comments. |
Re: Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by Dannyfan(m): 12:30pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
Pierocash:sorry I just modify the topic now |
Re: Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by Jashub: 12:31pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
I have always been a fan of Joshua Selma but that particular message is just off. But if he has given scriptural backing (of which he does often) to prove his message, then who am I to rebuke it. |
Re: Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by Pierocash(m): 12:39pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
There is nothing strange in what he preached,rather we have strange understanding of the message.. 1 Like |
Re: Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by Dannyfan(m): 12:44pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
Pierocash:Explain the message 1 Like |
Re: Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by jesusjnr2020(m): 12:46pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
He got the part of Adam not being the first man on Earth wrong, but I quite agree with most of his other positions because it tallies with God revealed to me concerning His creation. In the beginning the Earth was God's kingdom while man who was in charge was yet obedient to God's Word, but it ceased to be that after man disobeyed. That's how Satan became the prince of the world. Jesus was sent to restore God's kingdom on Earth, and He did that after dying for man's sins, so the devil was casted out as the prince of the world, and the new reigning prince of the world was now Jesus. Hence the Earth became the Kingdom of God again as it was in the beginning. The only difference is that there is not just Jesus on the Earth as it was in the beginning with Adam, but there are also disobedient humans. So it's through them that Satan is yet able to access the Earth and cause the damage that he does. God bless. 1 Like |
Re: Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by Jashub: 12:59pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
Pierocash:Explain please. |
Re: Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by enilove(m): 1:24pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
I have been warning my son severally not to listen to the man's messages about 2 years ago when he came home from campus and started playing his messages. There was one particular thing he said that made me to come to the conclusion that he was fake . I can't remember that for now. For the fact that he made mention of science shows he is a FAKE MAN . Is it science that will validate or invalidate the Bible ? Science is nothing but man's knowledge. Can all the scientists produce blood or give life? He is not a man of God. 5 Likes |
Re: Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by Pierocash(m): 1:30pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
Dannyfan:it sounded strange because it isn't in line with the regular preaching and teachings of man's existence. |
Re: Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by Dannyfan(m): 1:52pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
enilove:I am confused ooo. Thanks Sir for more light 1 Like |
Re: Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by Bankowner: 2:00pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
I can only respond to this from the standpoint of the Bible. Gen.1:1-2 ASV reads: “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. And the earth was waste and VOID; and darkness was upon the face of the deep: and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.” I lean on the part that says and the earth was waste and void, emphasis on the word “VOID” which means “completely empty”. God then went on to the business of creation and all He created in six days are listed in the first chapter of Genesis. There is no account in Chapter 2 of Genesis that He created a separate set of men before He created Adam in His own image and likeness. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by obonujoker(m): 2:46pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
Rubbish. I believe the Bible. There were no humanoids or aliens or whatever before creation of Adam. Don't allow demons deceive you |
Re: Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by walter11590: 3:24pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
I have always been a fan of Joshua Selma but that particular message is just off. But if he has given scriptural backing (of which he does often) to prove his message, then who am I to rebuke it. |
Re: Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by At10tion: 6:59pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
I quiet don't agree with this. It goes all wrong with the account of creation in the book of Genesis. And if you say that there were humans before Adam, then it would go along way to prove the earth to be owned and occupied by water spirits and fallen angels etc even before God handed it to Adam, which means Adam is not even the original owner of the earth has God has given him power and dominion over it from the beginning. |
Re: Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by Kobojunkie: 7:49pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
Jashub:you know you are confused, right? The Bible is clear on it's claim that Adam was the first. So? |
Re: Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by Kobojunkie: 7:51pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
Dannyfan:So you would rather be deceived by a man in the name of God, than stand firm against the lies of men in the name of God? Interesting! |
Re: Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by 2Lynx(m): 9:10pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
Bankowner:well I think what he meant by separate men before Adam where the angels and men of the spiritual men without wings..they might also be likened to angels but without wings |
Re: Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by Kobojunkie: 9:27pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
2Lynx:Wow! Where did you get that hogwash from? |
Re: Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by 2Lynx(m): 9:30pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: ok |
Re: Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by Kobojunkie: 9:33pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
2Lynx:Specu... what now? "Spiritual men without wings.." How do folks make sense of all this spiritual bull-sheet we keep hearing abeg? |
Re: Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by Jashub: 9:38pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
[s] Kobojunkie:[/s] I am sorry but my bible says I should not argue with fools or else I will brought down to their level and beat beaten with experience. |
Re: Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by 2Lynx(m): 9:39pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
Kobojunkie:ok |
Re: Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by Kobojunkie: 9:41pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
Jashub:Look whose talking.... ROFLMAO For the love of a man you concluded earlier that indeed the Bible is wrong in asserting that Adam was indeed the first man. Now here you are claiming you cling to eat the same Bible which you refused aays.. Lol 1 Like |
Re: Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by sonmvayina(m): 9:43pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
Adam means man and eve means woman...they are not proper names...Adam is from Adama which means fromthe earth.... Knowledge is power. |
Re: Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by Jashub: 9:49pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
Kobojunkie:Kindly quote where I said the bible was wrong. Or by the life of God you will surely die untimely. |
Re: Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by sammy329(m): 9:54pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
I love and respect Apostle Joshua Selman, but that message that Adam is not the first man is totally false. The Bible is enough for us. Trying to be deep and going to extra biblical stuff is the beginning of heresy 3 Likes |
Re: Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by sammy329(m): 9:55pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
Kobojunkie:Don't mind them There's difference between honour and sycophancy |
Re: Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by 2Lynx(m): 10:05pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
Kobojunkie:there are mysteries in heaven and on earth which we can't really explain or understand if even given to us bit by bit not everything is really contained in the bible and even the ones we and ("you" think we and ("you" understand, we will be really awed when the holy spirit minister the true meaning of even the "littlest" scriptures to us. the theory of creation as contained in the holy Bible included... so baba no talk say you utterly understand am cos na the surface we all dey see ooo. we need the holy spirit to make us understand through someone. as in Philip to the eunuch acts 8:27 or expressly as in 1 Corinthians 2:7,10,13. like I said earlier I dey cruise...I still hold on to my believe that Adam was the first man on earth tho 1 Like |
Re: Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by sammy329(m): 10:09pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
2Lynx:Mystery?? That's how heresy start. Stick with the written word, if the scriptures does not say it, it better to be silent on it There is no mystery again, Christ is the explanation of the scriptures 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by 2Lynx(m): 10:23pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
sammy329: baba I have never been caught up in heresy I stick with it as it is, except when the holy spirit shows us the true innate meaning of some scriptures... 1 corin 2:7,10,13. 1 corin 12:3, Ephesians 3:5. I never argued with you about the possibility of Adam not being the first on earth or not...I never said there where other men on earth before. like I said I just decided to go further on what I might think the op meant. smh i keep my true opinion on matters like these away from social media sef. if you believe that the bible is it as it is, Ok. but what I believe is when the holy spirit choose to make you understand those scriptures you will be awed... mehn he inspired the bible. 1 Like |
Re: Apostle Selman Joshua: - Why Adam Was Not The First Man On Earth. by Kobojunkie: 10:23pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
2Lynx:What the heck are you still on about? Your apostle, in the OPs report there, did not suggest a mystery of any kind-science is not mysterious" in it's claims at all. So please stop with the "spiritual" bull-sheet and stick to what is known. According to the report, Selman does not indeed believe that Adam was the first man, a position taken by the Bible books. So, what again are you having a problem with? I am not even against folks picking any side in this. What I am against is attempts at trying to justify Selmans claim by suggesting the confusion stems from the Bible's stance in this. 1 Like |
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