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Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by Image123(m): 3:17pm On Feb 01, 2021
kingxsamz:

Cry some more.

Self deception is not healthy.

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Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by bobestman(m): 3:29pm On Feb 01, 2021
Mikecold:
Good luck on your medication.

Next time don't say what you don't know

All your religions (Chrislamjew) are thieves. The scripture from Genesis to Revelation speak of only one people ISREAL not the one in middle east but African. They are the ones the Messiah came to save and it is written all over the scriptures. You guys always ignore that but believe the lies the Romans told you that you have replaced them via Replacement Theology- big lie! The creator swore or made a covenant that he will never leave them but will surely gather them together to their ancient land.

You are the one who need medication, go and get it before it will be dawned on you all
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by Nobody: 4:42pm On Feb 01, 2021
bobestman:


All your religions (Chrislamjew) are thieves. The scripture from Genesis to Revelation speak of only one people ISREAL not the one in middle east but African. They are the ones the Messiah came to save and it is written all over the scriptures. You guys always ignore that but believe the lies the Romans told you that you have replaced them via Replacement Theology- big lie! The creator swore or made a covenant that he will never leave them but will surely gather them together to their ancient land.

You are the one who need medication, go and get it before it will be dawned on you all
I know Abdul, every Muslim is Ashamed of its religion of piss
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by mhmsadyq(m): 4:59pm On Feb 01, 2021
Mikecold:
I know Abdul, every Muslim is Ashamed of its religion of piss

Weldone!
I followed your NONSENSE chain of thoughts until, when i got something to do.

Continue to impress yourself with your RUBBISH.
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by Nobody: 5:09pm On Feb 01, 2021
mhmsadyq:


Weldone!
I followed your NONSENSE chain of thoughts until, when i got something to do.

Continue to impress yourself with your RUBBISH.
Of course, I take that as a compliment, i don't expect you to go beyond this as a faithful slave of allah.

However i expected you would interject on my discussion with my atheist friend or perhaps answers the questions i posed to you.

Your plagiarised Quran instructed you to consult the people of the book should you stumble into the regular pit falls of non comprehension expected in its stolen foundation

So i am always here to englighten you on the theology which quran refers in confusion to as allah knows best
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by bobestman(m): 5:27pm On Feb 01, 2021
Mikecold:
I know Abdul, every Muslim is Ashamed of its religion of piss

The Christians too will soon be ashamed of that religion when the Son of Perdition returns and join them all together with Muslims and Jews. The wise among you will be ashamed of Christianity then they all will return to the ANCIENT path
Jeremiah 6:16
16 Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the ANCIENT paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein(your Chrislamjew)

Your can only find rest for your soul by following the ANCIENT path which is preached by the ANCIENT people

Isaiah 44:7
And who, as I, shall call, and shall declare it, and set it in order for me, since I appointed the ANCIENT people? and the things that are coming, and shall come, let them shew unto them
They will show all of your religions the truth

It's not Christianity, Islam or Judaism cos they are products of the woman(Vatican) when she corrupted the ANCIENT path as I told you earlier into 3 pots(Chrislamjew) Matthew 13:33 And the ANCIENT path is what I told you that was the first and will be the last (only one to stand at the end). Seek it!
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by Nobody: 5:32pm On Feb 01, 2021
bobestman:


The Christians too will soon be ashamed of that religion when the Son of Perdition returns and join them all together with Muslims and Jews. The wise among you will be ashamed of Christianity then they all will return to the ANCIENT path
Jeremiah 6:16
16 Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the ANCIENT paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein(your Chrislamjew)

Your can only find rest for your soul by following the ANCIENT path which is preached by the ANCIENT people

Isaiah 44:7
And who, as I, shall call, and shall declare it, and set it in order for me, since I appointed the ANCIENT people? and the things that are coming, and shall come, let them shew unto them
They will show all of your religions the truth

It's not Christianity, Islam or Judaism cos they are products of the woman(Vatican) when she corrupted the ANCIENT path as I told you earlier into 3 pots(Chrislamjew) Matthew 13:33 And the ANCIENT path is what I told you that was the first and will be the last (only one to stand at the end). Seek it!
ok you are noticed
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by MightySparrow: 5:34pm On Feb 01, 2021
Islam is a product of jealousy. The children of Hagar became jealous of children of Sarah. The want to discredit the legacy and covenant handled down to Isaac. It still evidenced today. The Muslim world would want Israel destroyed today as at the days of Mohammed.
We don't worship same God. Islam is a scam.
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by mhmsadyq(m): 5:54pm On Feb 01, 2021
Mikecold:
No Muslim can challenge a Christian or Jew in the first place because Islam plagiarized its book.

You can't see some one who plagiarized coming out to say otherwise, they run for cover.

Bible and all its entails is a Jewish book about Jewish people with passages from old testament verifying the christian book of new testament according to Isaiah 52 and 53.

The Bible has no reference to the quran or Mohamed nor the quranic Arabian people which is a stark tremendous overturn from the Bible yet never deemed fit for reference in Bible

The Qur'an was revealed to the Prophet confirming what was before it.

[3:2] Āl ‘Imrān-آل عِمْرَان
"اللّٰہُ لَاۤ اِلٰہَ اِلَّا ہُوَ ۙ الۡحَیُّ الۡقَیُّوۡمُ ؕ﴿۲﴾

Allah! None is worthy of worship but He, the Ever-Living, Self-Subsisting and Sustainer (of the entire universe with His Strategy).
[3:3] Āl ‘Imrān-آل عِمْرَان
"نَزَّلَ عَلَیۡکَ الۡکِتٰبَ بِالۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَیۡنَ یَدَیۡہِ وَ اَنۡزَلَ التَّوۡرٰىۃَ وَ الۡاِنۡجِیۡلَ ۙ﴿۳﴾

(O Beloved!) He is the One Who has revealed to you (this) Book with truth. (It) confirms (all those Books) that were revealed before it. And He is the One Who has revealed the Torah and the Injil (the Gospel).
[3:4] Āl ‘Imrān-آل عِمْرَان
"مِنۡ قَبۡلُ ہُدًی لِّلنَّاسِ وَ اَنۡزَلَ الۡفُرۡقَانَ ۬ؕ اِنَّ الَّذِیۡنَ کَفَرُوۡا بِاٰیٰتِ اللّٰہِ لَہُمۡ عَذَابٌ شَدِیۡدٌ ؕ وَ اللّٰہُ عَزِیۡزٌ ذُو انۡتِقَامٍ ﴿۴﴾

(As the Books were revealed) before this to guide the people, He has (now, in like manner,) revealed (the Qur’an,) the criterion to distinguish right from wrong. Verily, those who deny Allah’s Revelations, for them is rigorous punishment. And Allah is Almighty, the Lord of Retribution.

What you call plagiarism, is to us a confirmation of the books before the Qur'an.

To say the Bible has no reference to the Qur'an or the Prophet "may not be true".
References have been found to the Qur'an and the Prophet from the Bible, though, i won't want to discuss that here.

I am concern with what the Qur'an has to say because, it advent has nulified the relevance of the Bible today.
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by bobestman(m): 6:03pm On Feb 01, 2021
Mikecold:
ok you are noticed
You just noticed the Truth bro. Have a nice day
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by mhmsadyq(m): 6:12pm On Feb 01, 2021
Mikecold:
Of course, I take that as a compliment, i don't expect you to go beyond this as a faithful slave of allah.

However i expected you would interject on my discussion with my atheist friend or perhaps answers the questions i posed to you.

Your plagiarised Quran instructed you to consult the people of the book should you stumble into the regular pit falls of non comprehension expected in its stolen foundation

So i am always here to englighten you on the theology which quran refers in confusion to as allah knows best

Alhamdullilah!
Allah found me worthy to be his Servant!
[3:64] Āl ‘Imrān-آل عِمْرَان
"قُلۡ یٰۤاَہۡلَ الۡکِتٰبِ تَعَالَوۡا اِلٰی کَلِمَۃٍ سَوَآءٍۢ بَیۡنَنَا وَ بَیۡنَکُمۡ اَلَّا نَعۡبُدَ اِلَّا اللّٰہَ وَ لَا نُشۡرِکَ بِہٖ شَیۡئًا وَّ لَا یَتَّخِذَ بَعۡضُنَا بَعۡضًا اَرۡبَابًا مِّنۡ دُوۡنِ اللّٰہِ ؕ فَاِنۡ تَوَلَّوۡا فَقُوۡلُوا اشۡہَدُوۡا بِاَنَّا مُسۡلِمُوۡنَ ﴿۶۴﴾

Say: ‘O People of the Book, come to that matter which is common between us and you (namely that): we shall worship none other than Allah, and we shall not associate any partner with Him. Nor shall anyone of us take one another as Lords apart from Allah. Then if they turn away, say: Bear witness that we are but Allah’s obedient servants (Muslims).’
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by bobestman(m): 6:18pm On Feb 01, 2021
Mikecold:
Of course, I take that as a compliment, i don't expect you to go beyond this as a faithful slave of allah.

However i expected you would interject on my discussion with my atheist friend or perhaps answers the questions i posed to you.

Your plagiarised Quran instructed you to consult the people of the book should you stumble into the regular pit falls of non comprehension expected in its stolen foundation

So i am always here to englighten you on the theology which quran refers in confusion to as allah knows best

Christians also are not the ppl of the book. Those who wrote the book are black Nazarenes or Essenes. They are never Christians or have anything to do with it. They are the ancient people that follow the ancient path I told you earlier. Don't remove a log when when you have one in your eyes. All religion Chrislamjew must seek the ppl of the book for interpretation cos the book was sealed since the days of Daniel - Daniel 12:4 and only them can unseal it. See also Zaphaniah 3:10 It's is the land where everyone will present there offerings to the King of Kings and where all the ancients will come to from all over the world
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by Nobody: 6:18pm On Feb 01, 2021
mhmsadyq:


The Qur'an was revealed to the Prophet confirming what was before it.

[3:2] Āl ‘Imrān-آل عِمْرَان
"اللّٰہُ لَاۤ اِلٰہَ اِلَّا ہُوَ ۙ الۡحَیُّ الۡقَیُّوۡمُ ؕ﴿۲﴾

Allah! None is worthy of worship but He, the Ever-Living, Self-Subsisting and Sustainer (of the entire universe with His Strategy).
[3:3] Āl ‘Imrān-آل عِمْرَان
"نَزَّلَ عَلَیۡکَ الۡکِتٰبَ بِالۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَیۡنَ یَدَیۡہِ وَ اَنۡزَلَ التَّوۡرٰىۃَ وَ الۡاِنۡجِیۡلَ ۙ﴿۳﴾

(O Beloved!) He is the One Who has revealed to you (this) Book with truth. (It) confirms (all those Books) that were revealed before it. And He is the One Who has revealed the Torah and the Injil (the Gospel).
[3:4] Āl ‘Imrān-آل عِمْرَان
"مِنۡ قَبۡلُ ہُدًی لِّلنَّاسِ وَ اَنۡزَلَ الۡفُرۡقَانَ ۬ؕ اِنَّ الَّذِیۡنَ کَفَرُوۡا بِاٰیٰتِ اللّٰہِ لَہُمۡ عَذَابٌ شَدِیۡدٌ ؕ وَ اللّٰہُ عَزِیۡزٌ ذُو انۡتِقَامٍ ﴿۴﴾

(As the Books were revealed) before this to guide the people, He has (now, in like manner,) revealed (the Qur’an,) the criterion to distinguish right from wrong. Verily, those who deny Allah’s Revelations, for them is rigorous punishment. And Allah is Almighty, the Lord of Retribution.

What you call plagiarism, is to us a confirmation of the books before the Qur'an.

To say the Bible has no reference to the Qur'an or the Prophet "may not be true".
References have been found to the Qur'an and the Prophet from the Bible, though, i won't want to discuss that here.

I am concern with what the Qur'an has to say because, it advent has nulified the relevance of the Bible today.



Lol how pathetic, you vomit a bunch of arabic writing confessing to believe in the Bible (ok fine anybody can do this especially when they don't have an history of their own).

The biggest problem is to make outrageous claim to be from the same stock and continuation of the the Bible (yet you don't prove where in the Bible points to your validation of continuation)

You call the biggest outrageous claim not a big deal because you simply accept it's account.

This is very shallow because you must proof how the story changed from been a Jewish centric one to Arab centric

You must prove how the morally upright God in the Bible changed to a one who shields a supposed prophet for paedophile, sex etc.

You must prove how the God in the Bible went from promising Israel an everlasting covenant to a god that hates jews with passion.

You must prove why the practice of worshiping God in the Bible changed to circling a stone half Na!ked.

These are just a few that are germane before validating a religion to be a continuation of an already established religion.

What ardent of Quran is nullifying the Bible?

Is it the sharia ardents practised by islamic nations which have instituted organised terrorism globally?

Is it the ardents of Quran that Muslims are running away from in chaos?

Is it the ardents of Quran that makes islamic nations the most dreadful in terms of human rights abuse?

Are you comparing the western nations that were established by traditional Christian ardents to nations established by islamic ardents?

We know the nations that are viable in terms of how an ideal society should run
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by Nobody: 6:27pm On Feb 01, 2021
mhmsadyq:


Alhamdullilah!
Allah found me worthy to be his Servant!
[3:64] Āl ‘Imrān-آل عِمْرَان
"قُلۡ یٰۤاَہۡلَ الۡکِتٰبِ تَعَالَوۡا اِلٰی کَلِمَۃٍ سَوَآءٍۢ بَیۡنَنَا وَ بَیۡنَکُمۡ اَلَّا نَعۡبُدَ اِلَّا اللّٰہَ وَ لَا نُشۡرِکَ بِہٖ شَیۡئًا وَّ لَا یَتَّخِذَ بَعۡضُنَا بَعۡضًا اَرۡبَابًا مِّنۡ دُوۡنِ اللّٰہِ ؕ فَاِنۡ تَوَلَّوۡا فَقُوۡلُوا اشۡہَدُوۡا بِاَنَّا مُسۡلِمُوۡنَ ﴿۶۴﴾

Say: ‘O People of the Book, come to that matter which is common between us and you (namely that): we shall worship none other than Allah, and we shall not associate any partner with Him. Nor shall anyone of us take one another as Lords apart from Allah. Then if they turn away, say: Bear witness that we are but Allah’s obedient servants (Muslims).’

It is not my concern whether you have chosen to be a slave to a peadophile god.

These writing from a caravan desert thief is not enough to justify his claims as been a continuation from the Bible.
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by Nobody: 6:56pm On Feb 01, 2021
bobestman:


Christians also are not the ppl of the book. Those who wrote the book are black Nazarenes or Essenes. They are never Christians or have anything to do with it. They are the ancient people that follow the ancient path I told you earlier. Don't remove a log when when you have one in your eyes. All religion Chrislamjew must seek the ppl of the book for interpretation cos the book was sealed since the days of Daniel - Daniel 12:4 and only them can unseal it. See also Zaphaniah 3:10 It's is the land where everyone will present there offerings to the King of Kings and where all the ancients will come to from all over the world

Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by bobestman(m): 7:45pm On Feb 01, 2021
[quote author=Mikecold post=98644213][/quote]

Biggest lie! It was a made up lie. They have whitewashed everything. Christianity started many years after the death of Christ which was 2000years ago? We are talking about sth very Ancient you can't get on net. Your enemies control everything. They replace everything that is us with them, burn our ancient library of Alexander the great where many of our works were, painted everything white and credited our works to the fake Jews of Isrealis. This is why it is difficult for many of you to know the truth and if we tell you, you all we insult us. They were Hebrews of African tribes with dreads aka Nazarenes. Christ was one of them. They were never Churchians. The Romans lied to you all. Will shock you all with the truth. These are just snippets.
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by mhmsadyq(m): 8:25pm On Feb 01, 2021
Mikecold:
Lol how pathetic, you vomit a bunch of arabic writing confessing to believe in the Bible (ok fine anybody can do this especially when they don't have an history of their own).

The biggest problem is to make outrageous claim to be from the same stock and continuation of the the Bible (yet you don't prove where in the Bible points to your validation of continuation)

You call the biggest outrageous claim not a big deal because you simply accept it's account.

This is very shallow because you must proof how the story changed from been a Jewish centric one to Arab centric

You must prove how the morally upright God in the Bible changed to a one who shields a supposed prophet for paedophile, sex etc.

You must prove how the God in the Bible went from promising Israel an everlasting covenant to a god that hates jews with passion.

You must prove why the practice of worshiping God in the Bible changed to circling a stone half Na!ked.

These are just a few that are germane before validating a religion to be a continuation of an already established religion.

What ardent of Quran is nullifying the Bible?

Is it the sharia ardents practised by islamic nations which have instituted organised terrorism globally?

Is it the ardents of Quran that Muslims are running away from in chaos?

Is it the ardents of Quran that makes islamic nations the most dreadful in terms of human rights abuse?

Are you comparing the western nations that were established by traditional Christian ardents to nations established by islamic ardents?

We know the nations that are viable in terms of how an ideal society should run

Fortunately for you, i do not have the luxury of curses you enjoy.
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by mhmsadyq(m): 8:29pm On Feb 01, 2021
Mikecold:
It is not my concern whether you have chosen to be a slave to a peadophile god.

These writing from a caravan desert thief is not enough to justify his claims as been a continuation from the Bible.

Like i said above, i do not enjoy the luxury of curses you do.

But anytime you return to your senses, i will be too glad to enrich those senses.

[6:108] Al-An‘ām-الْأَنْعَام
"وَ لَا تَسُبُّوا الَّذِیۡنَ یَدۡعُوۡنَ مِنۡ دُوۡنِ اللّٰہِ فَیَسُبُّوا اللّٰہَ عَدۡوًۢا بِغَیۡرِ عِلۡمٍ ؕ کَذٰلِکَ زَیَّنَّا لِکُلِّ اُمَّۃٍ عَمَلَہُمۡ ۪ ثُمَّ اِلٰی رَبِّہِمۡ مَّرۡجِعُہُمۡ فَیُنَبِّئُہُمۡ بِمَا کَانُوۡا یَعۡمَلُوۡنَ ﴿۱۰۸﴾

And, (O Muslims,) do not abuse these (false gods) that these (polytheists) worship besides Allah, lest these people should (also, in retaliation,) revile against Allah’s Glory wrongfully due to ignorance. Thus have We made the conduct of every sect (and faction) seem attractive to (their own eyes and they regard only that as truth). Then all have to return to their Lord, and He will inform them of (the results of) their deeds which they used to do.
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by Nobody: 8:35pm On Feb 01, 2021
mhmsadyq:


Like i said above, i do not enjoy the luxury of curses you do.

But anytime you return to your senses, i will be too glad to enrich those senses.
Answer the questions and stop beating round the bush.

I don't see where i have insulted you when you condenmed yourself as a slave.

When i come to my senses, my Muslim friend you are talking to a person of knowledge.

Your Quran cetifies me as a person of the book

Book is synonymous with knowledge
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by Nobody: 8:44pm On Feb 01, 2021
mhmsadyq:


Like i said above, i do not enjoy the luxury of curses you do.

But anytime you return to your senses, i will be too glad to enrich those senses.

[6:108] Al-An‘ām-الْأَنْعَام
"وَ لَا تَسُبُّوا الَّذِیۡنَ یَدۡعُوۡنَ مِنۡ دُوۡنِ اللّٰہِ فَیَسُبُّوا اللّٰہَ عَدۡوًۢا بِغَیۡرِ عِلۡمٍ ؕ کَذٰلِکَ زَیَّنَّا لِکُلِّ اُمَّۃٍ عَمَلَہُمۡ ۪ ثُمَّ اِلٰی رَبِّہِمۡ مَّرۡجِعُہُمۡ فَیُنَبِّئُہُمۡ بِمَا کَانُوۡا یَعۡمَلُوۡنَ ﴿۱۰۸﴾

And, (O Muslims,) do not abuse these (false gods) that these (polytheists) worship besides Allah, lest these people should (also, in retaliation,) revile against Allah’s Glory wrongfully due to ignorance. Thus have We made the conduct of every sect (and faction) seem attractive to (their own eyes and they regard only that as truth). Then all have to return to their Lord, and He will inform them of (the results of) their deeds which they used to do.
There is no sense in this passage.

This passage is simply deflecting issues instead of addressing them, Mohamed was aware that contradictions was always going to be raised against his inconsistent doctrines.

The summary of that passage simply implies when asked about proof for Quran validation and Bible plagiarism just say allah knows best (because no evidence to give and no theology to stand on)

Instead of Mohamed to give answers and evidences to the questions constantly raised, he preferred to use reverse physiology and play the victim card.

This is a lame attempt to defend Quran validation from the Bible.


Muslims can kill for allah and perform jihad but suddenly become sissies when theology comes to the fore.

Answer my questions, i don't also want to hear allah knows best
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by mhmsadyq(m): 8:53pm On Feb 01, 2021
Mikecold:
Answer the questions and stop beating round the bush.

I don't see where i have insulted you when you condenmed yourself as a slave.

When i come to my senses, my Muslim friend you are talking to a person of knowledge.

Your Quran cetifies me as a person of the book

Book is synonymous with knowledge

Your senses seem to be returning. Good!
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by shadeyinka(m): 9:05pm On Feb 01, 2021
Myer:
Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God?

If Yes, give your reasons.
If No, give your reasons.

MuttletLaff AkinwaleJJ HopefulLandlord
Is Allah the same as Jehovah?

Just go to any mosque and shout "Jehovah Allahu Akbar" and see if you are not reduced to minced meat!
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by mhmsadyq(m): 9:05pm On Feb 01, 2021
Mikecold:
There is no sense in this passage.

This passage is simply deflecting issues instead of addressing them, Mohamed was aware that contradictions was always going to be raised against his inconsistent doctrines.

The summary of that passage simply implies when asked about proof for Quran validation and Bible plagiarism just say allah knows best (because no evidence to give and no theology to stand on)

Instead of Mohamed to give answers and evidences to the questions constantly raised, he preferred to use reverse physiology and play the victim card.

This is a lame attempt to defend Quran validation from the Bible.


Muslims can kill for allah and perform jihad but suddenly become sissies when theology comes to the fore.

Answer my questions, i don't also want to hear allah knows best

The verse is apt in my view and understanding.
It is simply enjoining us as Muslims to desist from calling others Gods and revered detestable names.
Instead, this is what the Qur'an commands,

[16:125] Al-Naḥl-النَّحْل
"اُدۡعُ اِلٰی سَبِیۡلِ رَبِّکَ بِالۡحِکۡمَۃِ وَ الۡمَوۡعِظَۃِ الۡحَسَنَۃِ وَ جَادِلۡہُمۡ بِالَّتِیۡ ہِیَ اَحۡسَنُ ؕ اِنَّ رَبَّکَ ہُوَ اَعۡلَمُ بِمَنۡ ضَلَّ عَنۡ سَبِیۡلِہٖ وَ ہُوَ اَعۡلَمُ بِالۡمُہۡتَدِیۡنَ ﴿۱۲۵﴾

(O Glorious Messenger!) Invite towards the path of your Lord with wisdom and refined exhortation and (also) argue with them in a most decent manner. Surely, your Lord knows well the one who strayed away from His path, and He also knows well the rightly guided.
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by mhmsadyq(m): 9:20pm On Feb 01, 2021
Mikecold:
Answer the questions and stop beating round the bush.

I don't see where i have insulted you when you condenmed yourself as a slave.

When i come to my senses, my Muslim friend you are talking to a person of knowledge.

Your Quran cetifies me as a person of the book

Book is synonymous with knowledge

There are knowledge and there are knowledge.
There are books and there are books.
which one are you boostful of?

Anyways, I only have answers for sensible questions.
If i see any from you, as i have always done, be sure of an answer.
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by Myer(m): 9:54pm On Feb 01, 2021
shadeyinka:

Is Allah the same as Jehovah?

Just go to any mosque and shout "Jehovah Allahu Akbar" and see if you are not reduced to minced meat!

Well, Arabic bible translations refer to God (Jehovah) as Allah.
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by shadeyinka(m): 5:07am On Feb 02, 2021
Myer:


Well, Arabic bible translations refer to God (Jehovah) as Allah.
I am sure you know that Islam is NOT Arabic language and Arabic language is not Islam. The issue is, IN ISLAM, is Jehovah the same as Allah!?

FYI
According to Christians and Jews, the PERSONAL name of God is Jehovah/Yahweh

However,
According to Moslems, the PERSONAL name of God is Allah

Just go to any mosque and shout "Jehovah Allahu Akbar" and see if you are not reduced to minced meat!
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:57am On Feb 02, 2021
This is political!

The Arab world want to take over power from the West, they found out that the nation that served longest as world power in the past was Italy (Rome) and the tool Romans used to keep that position for that long was Catholicism (religion)
So after lots of internal disputes amongst themselves they came to agree that Muhammad whom they themselves exterminated would have been useful to them. HOW?
If all Arabs should embrace the same god instead of each family having it's own god as they've been doing in the past, it will be easier for them to form alliance against the west and they will use Islam (religion) to recruit more fighters to support them.
Muhammad was assassinated because he is imposing the custom of the Jews on them and telling them that their numerous gods are worthless. Before then there was no nation on this planet that's worshiping just one deity except Israel. So they thought he is insulting them by raising the tradition of their enemies against their own, but when they now reconciled and thought of making use of what Muhammad introduced, the bone of contention now is which name will the God of Islam be called?
Of course Muhammad can't call on the name of the God of the Jews "JEHOVAH" in the midst of the enemies of Israel so he can't fabricate any name other than living it as God (Allah)
So Allah simply means God and God is just a title not the name of any specific deity, the name the God of the Hebrews called himself is "JEHOVAH"
If i want to preach and teach an Arabian about my own God now, i'll use the name JEHOVAH but when talking about the title then Allah would be appropriate because Allah simply means God therefore all the deities in the world could be referred to as Allah (god) why the Arabs fought against Muhammad wasn't the name but that there is just one Allah (god) so which Allah (god) should be scrapped amongst several deities that the inhabitants of Mecca worshiped back then and which should be retained? That's what caused the rift between Muhammad and his people not the issue of a specific name! smiley


shadeyinka:

Is Allah the same as Jehovah?
Just go to any mosque and shout "Jehovah Allahu Akbar" and see if you are not reduced to minced meat!
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by Image123(m): 6:35am On Feb 02, 2021
Image123:


The answer is in the question i asked. To reduce argument, we need to know your level of knowledge na. If i spoonfeed you, you will likely vomit, so think for yourself. Did satan sin before Adam and Eve ate the fruit?

This.
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by mhmsadyq(m): 6:50am On Feb 02, 2021
shadeyinka:

Is Allah the same as Jehovah?

Just go to any mosque and shout "Jehovah Allahu Akbar" and see if you are not reduced to minced meat!

Can you go to any Church and shout "Jehovah Akbar"? or "God Akbar". LOL

Jehovah is Hebrew, Allah is Arabic.
Jehovah is Hebrew, Akbar is Arabic.
Reconcile them.

What about "Olohun Akbar".
Chineke Akbar
Ubangiji Akbar
Ojoo Akbar etc.

Think!
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by mhmsadyq(m): 6:52am On Feb 02, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
This is political!

The Arab world want to take over power from the West, they found out that the nation that served longest as world power in the past was Italy (Rome) and the tool Romans used to keep that position for that long was Catholicism (religion)
So after lots of internal disputes amongst themselves they came to agree that Muhammad whom they themselves exterminated would have been useful to them. HOW?
If all Arabs should embrace the same god instead of each family having it's own god as they've been doing in the past, it will be easier for them to form alliance against the west and they will use Islam (religion) to recruit more fighters to support them.
Muhammad was assassinated because he is imposing the custom of the Jews on them and telling them that their numerous gods are worthless. Before then there was no nation on this planet that's worshiping just one deity except Israel. So they thought he is insulting them by raising the tradition of their enemies against their own, but when they now reconciled and thought of making use of what Muhammad introduced, the bone of contention now is which name will the God of Islam be called?
Of course Muhammad can't call on the name of the God of the Jews "JEHOVAH" in the midst of the enemies of Israel so he can't fabricate any name other than living it as God (Allah)
So Allah simply means God and God is just a title not the name of any specific deity, the name the God of the Hebrews called himself is "JEHOVAH"
If i want to preach and teach an Arabian about my own God now, i'll use the name JEHOVAH but when talking about the title then Allah would be appropriate because Allah simply means God therefore all the deities in the world could be referred to as Allah (god) why the Arabs fought against Muhammad wasn't the name but that there is just one Allah (god) so which Allah (god) should be scrapped amongst several deities that the inhabitants of Mecca worshiped back then and which should be retained? That's what caused the rift between Muhammad and his people not the issue of a specific name! smiley



JW Perspective. Ok.
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:22am On Feb 02, 2021
It's the TRUTH!

"Allah" (Arabic) means "God" (English) and "Elohim" (Hebrew)
In ancient times there are many Gods and Goddesses each with his/her unique name. The God that called Abraham out of Ur in the east introduced himself with a specific name "JEHOVAH" {Exodus 6:2-3; Psalms 83:18} so it's not just a title but a unique NAME! smiley

mhmsadyq:

JW Perspective. Ok.
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by Myer(m): 7:36am On Feb 02, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
This is political!

The Arab world want to take over power from the West, they found out that the nation that served longest as world power in the past was Italy (Rome) and the tool Romans used to keep that position for that long was Catholicism (religion)
So after lots of internal disputes amongst themselves they came to agree that Muhammad whom they themselves exterminated would have been useful to them. HOW?
If all Arabs should embrace the same god instead of each family having it's own god as they've been doing in the past, it will be easier for them to form alliance against the west and they will use Islam (religion) to recruit more fighters to support them.
Muhammad was assassinated because he is imposing the custom of the Jews on them and telling them that their numerous gods are worthless. Before then there was no nation on this planet that's worshiping just one deity except Israel. So they thought he is insulting them by raising the tradition of their enemies against their own, but when they now reconciled and thought of making use of what Muhammad introduced, the bone of contention now is which name will the God of Islam be called?
Of course Muhammad can't call on the name of the God of the Jews "JEHOVAH" in the midst of the enemies of Israel so he can't fabricate any name other than living it as God (Allah)
So Allah simply means God and God is just a title not the name of any specific deity, the name the God of the Hebrews called himself is "JEHOVAH"
If i want to preach and teach an Arabian about my own God now, i'll use the name JEHOVAH but when talking about the title then Allah would be appropriate because Allah simply means God therefore all the deities in the world could be referred to as Allah (god) why the Arabs fought against Muhammad wasn't the name but that there is just one Allah (god) so which Allah (god) should be scrapped amongst several deities that the inhabitants of Mecca worshiped back then and which should be retained? That's what caused the rift between Muhammad and his people not the issue of a specific name! smiley


You're right to point out the fact that Allah simply means God by translation.
Whether that God is the same as Jehovah is a subject of debate.
But I believe even gods know and recognise that there's only one God. Even Apostle Paul corroborates this. Acts 17:23-24
So for the Muslims and Jews to be worshipping that God means their followers are all worshipping the same One God.

Do you know that the name Jehovah only exists in the old testament?
Not once was Jehovah mentioned in the new testament.
Christians now believe God having exalted the name of Jesus even above his own name means that Jesus is the God of Christianity. Philippians 2:9-11

If I'm wrong please don't hesitate to prove me wrong with scriptures.

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