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Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by mkmyers45(m): 5:08pm On Aug 07, 2012
A five-year-old girl is thought to have become the UK's youngest victim of forced marriage.

She was one of 400 children to receive assistance from the government's Forced Marriage Unit in the last year.

The figures have emerged as the public consultation into criminalising forced marriage in England, Wales and Northern Ireland comes to an end.

http://ahafoundation.visibli.com/share/NC54qA
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by 2864: 6:01pm On Aug 07, 2012
Up Islam ! Kudos to Muslims. Iam not surprised. Their Nigerian Father...a former governor , with beards like... did the same thing... A sweet 12 years old Egyptian girl is not to bad for over 60 years old fanatics... I dey laugh ooooo
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by Delafruita(m): 10:26pm On Aug 07, 2012
jcross19: I think they are following suit ahahah from their wannabe prophet who was a paedophilia
christianity also has a history riddled with absolutely ludicrous sexual immorality.
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by Ptolomeus(m): 10:35pm On Aug 07, 2012
Christians and Arabs, say they came to Africa to "civilize" the savages "....
Irony!

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Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by Nobody: 10:55pm On Aug 07, 2012
I wonder what type of sick degenerate would agree to being married to a five year old. . . . . . . .
Islamically, you cannot force a girl to marry a man she does not like, it is wrong and unacceptable. This practise has nothing to do with Islam.
Thank you.

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Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by Saintparis1: 7:54am On Aug 08, 2012
fellis:
No I don't regard him as such, he didn't set the stage for marrying under-aged.
The same issue that has been discussed on NL so many times is what you are trying to bring up again.
You can tire person. . . .

Huh He didn't set the stage? Muhammad asked aisha's hand in marriage when she was 6yrs and consummated the marriage when she was 9. C'mon quit the lying
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by LagosShia: 12:35pm On Aug 08, 2012
Saint paris:

Huh He didn't set the stage? Muhammad asked aisha's hand in marriage when she was 6yrs and consummated the marriage when she was 9. C'mon quit the lying

review this thread and discover your ignorance:

https://www.nairaland.com/846958/tell-me-why-mohammed-married
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by Saintparis1: 4:18pm On Aug 08, 2012
LagosShia:

review this thread and discover your ignorance:

https://www.nairaland.com/846958/tell-me-why-mohammed-married

Aisha was 9 lunar years old or 8 years 9
months old according to solar years
when Muhammad slept with her. This is
a fact demonstrated by a great number
of hadiths. There is no controversy in
that. There has never been until now
that some of the Muslims have come in
contact with western values and are
ashamed to admit that their Prophet
could commit such an indecency. They
deny the facts and have made it a
controversy. grin. Accept it that's what your prophet is. "Craddl3 robbber" cheesy
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by LagosShia: 4:25pm On Aug 08, 2012
Saint paris:

Aisha was 9 lunar years old or 8 years 9
months old according to solar years
when Muhammad slept with her. This is
a fact demonstrated by a great number
of hadiths. There is no controversy in
that. There has never been until now
that some of the Muslims have come in
contact with western values and are
ashamed to admit that their Prophet
could commit such an indecency. They
deny the facts and have made it a
controversy. grin. Accept it that's what your prophet is. "Craddl3 robbber" cheesy

it is not more of a fact than accepting Mary was 12 years old given to a 90 year old Joseph when she conceived miraculously.

you take what you want to accept.from historical accounts,Aisha could have being up to 19 or 21 year old.

also,up until recently,the age of consent in europe and america (about 100 years ago) at a time christian values were still present in those societies before secularism took over,was 10 and 12 years old! cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by Saintparis1: 7:35pm On Aug 08, 2012
LagosShia:

it is not more of a fact than accepting Mary was 12 years old given to a 90 year old Joseph when she conceived miraculously.

you take what you want to accept.from historical accounts,Aisha could have being up to 19 or 21 year old.

also,up until recently,the age of consent in europe and america (about 100 years ago) at a time christian values were still present in those societies before secularism took over,was 10 and 12 years old! cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 245
Narrated 'Aisha: (the wife of the Prophet) I never
remembered my parents believing in any religion other than the true religion (i.e. Islam),

If Ayesha was older i.e. 16 or 18 as some
You claim, she would have
remembered the religion of her parents
prior to becoming Muslims.
Sadly, it is not just Mohammad who thought he shouldhave a child bride; it is also sanctioned in the Koran. To be clear, a man can marry a prepubescent girl who has not even reached her period.
In the case of divorce:
Qur’an 65:4 If you are in doubt concerning those of your wives who have ceased menstruating, know that their waiting period shall be three months. The sameshall apply to those who have not yet menstruated. As for pregnant women, their term shall end with their confinement. God will ease the hardship of the man who fears him.
The surrounding context deals with the issue of the waiting period for divorce, and remarriage. The Quran is telling Muslims to wait for a certain period of time before making the divorce final or deciding to forego it. The Quran exhorts men to wait a period of three months in the case of women who either are no longer menstruating or haven’t even started their menstrual cycles .
Since Muslim men are to wait 3 months before divorcing a prepubescent child it means that they have been engaging in sex with those children lipsrsealed
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by LagosShia: 10:23pm On Aug 08, 2012
AISHA WAS NOT 9 YEARS OLD OR A CHILD WHEN THE PROPHET MARRIED HER
[8] The popular version of ‘Ãisha’s youth age has been exploited by the anti-Islamic groups to attack the Prophet “for marrying a child”. The fact of the matter is that Lady ‘Ãisha was not a child when she was married in 2 AH to the Prophet. At-Tabari, the famous Muslim historian, writes that Abu Bakr’s first two wives and their children were all born in the pre-Islamic era. (Ta’rīkh at-Tabari, vol. 2 [Beirut: al-A‘lami, n.d.] p. 616.) Based on this, even if she was born a year before the commencement of Islam, ‘Ãisha would be 15 or 16 years old at the time of her marriage to the Prophet – an age in which marriage is common in most cultures. Ibn Kathīr, in his al-Bidãyah wa ’n-Nihãyah (vol. 8, p. 381) states that Asmã’ bint Abu Bakr, the sister of ‘Ãisha, was ten years older than ‘Ãisha. He also reports that Asmã’ died in the year 73 AH at the age of 100. Based on this calculation, ‘Ãisha was 18 or 19 years old at the time of her marriage.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-53711.0.html#msg7170329
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by Saintparis1: 3:21am On Aug 09, 2012
Really? You may still claim that all
these hadithes are lies. People are free
to say whatever they want. But truth is
clear like the Sun for those who have
eyes.
No sane person would be aroused by a 9-
year-old child. Decent people wince at
the thought of this shameful act. Yet
some Muslims deny them. The question
is why so many followers of Muhammad
would fabricate so many false hadithes
about the age of Ayisha, which
incidentally confirm each other?
Why
should anyone fabricate a lie about the
age of Ayisha that would portray his
Prophet as a pedophile?
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by nakash: 1:49pm On Aug 09, 2012
Muslims are ashamed that their prophet could sleep with a 9 year girl.

Saint paris: Really? You may still claim that all
these hadithes are lies. People are free
to say whatever they want. But truth is
clear like the Sun for those who have
eyes.
No sane person would be aroused by a 9-
year-old child. Decent people wince at
the thought of this shameful act. Yet
some Muslims deny them. The question
is why so many followers of Muhammad
would fabricate so many false hadithes
about the age of Ayisha, which
incidentally confirm each other?
Why
should anyone fabricate a lie about the
age of Ayisha that would portray his
Prophet as a pedophile?
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by LagosShia: 2:01pm On Aug 09, 2012
nakash: Muslims are ashamed that their prophet could sleep with a 9 year girl.


so what do you say about 12 year old Mary getting pregnated miraculously at a time she was betrothed to another man?

how do you describe that?

it looks like your mission is called "operation defamation".your job is character assasination and trying to provoke others.you have nothing good to say nor to promote about yourself or religion.instead you try to defame others.the same thing you're doing in this thread:
https://www.nairaland.com/1006279/how-man-wives-did-muhammad/3

go and die!

we are proud Muslims.i even doubt you're a Nigerian.you're promoting that website you referred me to in the thread i just made reference to (above).
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by BetaThings: 2:50am On Aug 10, 2012
nakash: Muslims are ashamed that their prophet could sleep with a 9 year girl.

Muslims are never ashamed of whatever the Prophet (PBUH) did
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by BetaThings: 3:14am On Aug 10, 2012
Saint paris: Really? You may still claim that all
these hadithes are lies. People are free
to say whatever they want. But truth is
clear like the Sun for those who have
eyes.
No sane person would be aroused by a 9-
year-old child. Decent people wince at
the thought of this shameful act. Yet
some Muslims deny them. The question
is why so many followers of Muhammad
would fabricate so many false hadithes
about the age of Ayisha, which
incidentally confirm each other?
Why
should anyone fabricate a lie about the
age of Ayisha that would portray his
Prophet as a pedophile?

How come sane people of that era never found un"exciting" what the Prophet did
Were there no decent people (like you or the way you define it) then? So maybe the age (whatever you chose to put it) was not an issue

Did you know that the age of consent/marriage in England was once 10?
Did you know that in Europe during the Middle Ages, the lord of the manor had a legal right to spend the first night with any non-noble bride on his land

Today the age of consent in Spain is 13; same as in South Korea
You can still marry a girl younger than 13 in some parts of Mexico today
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by tiarabubu: 8:12am On Aug 10, 2012
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Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by Saintparis1: 9:15am On Aug 10, 2012
BetaThings:

How come sane people of that era never found un"exciting" what the Prophet did
Were there no decent people (like you or the way you define it) then? So maybe the age (whatever you chose to put it) was not an issue
Did you know that the age of consent/marriage in England was once 10?
Did you know that in Europe during the Middle Ages, the lord of the manor had a legal right to spend the first night with any non-noble bride on his land

Something that was acceptable 1400 years
ago in Arabia or during the middle Ages may not look that good today.
Perhaps we should not judge those people so
harshly. But the question is why should we
follow them?
I agree that morality is relative and we
should not judge the ancient people’s
morality with our modern morality.
Obviously we all cringe when we think
of pedophilia and acknowledge that it
is a shameful act of immorality. But
during the time of Muhammad, and
even today in some Islamic countries,
marrying a 9-year-old child was not
immoral. In fact Aisha was given to
Muhammad with the consent of her
parents and no one raised an eyebrow.
The question is, if sleeping with a nine
year old child was not deemed bad and
therefore was not considered immoral,
was it ok? Not everything that a society
accepts as moral is right. Having sex
with a minor may not have been
immoral for Arabs 1400 years ago or in the middle Ages, but
it is now, as it was then, unethical.
Moralities are defined by
circumstances, but ethics transcend
time and space. They are rooted in
logics. Morality can vary from culture to
culture, from time to time and from
person to person. Who is to determine
what is moral and what is not? “
Having sex with a minor may not have
been immoral for Muhammad and his
contemporaries in that uncivilized
culture, but it was ethically wrong. If
Muhammad was a messenger of God or
an honorable man, as he made his
Allah to proclaim him thus, he should
have known that what he was doing
was dishonorable and unethical.
Although it is true that in the past
people married at very young age. And
it is also true that occasionally wealthy
old men married very young girls. We
have to realize that these people acted
on their culture. We do not condemn
them for they did not know better.
What they did was the norm. But we do
condemn those cultures.
However, we cannot forgive with the
same amnesty those who claimed to be
the standard of rectitude amongst
mankind. If average people could not
distinguish the right from the wrong,
the messenger of God, if he were
from God, should have known better. If
His claim was true, if his knowledge
was divine, if he was inspired, he
should not have followed the tradition
of their people but should have set the
example. Muhammad followed the
morality of his people. But that morality
was ethically wrong. He claimed to be
the best human and the last messenger
of God. According to him God has said
to people all he wanted to say in the
Quran and his religion is complete.
There is no more guidance to come and
his examples and teachings are all we
need to know and follow for eternity.
Yet what he did and said, under the
light of modern values prove to be very
wrong.

[/quote]Today the age of consent in Spain is 13; same as in South Korea
You can still marry a girl younger than 13 in some parts of Mexico today[/quote]
Nope....... it's 13 for minors, 16 for adults
A 16 can have sex with a 13 but a 50 cannot have sex with under 16.
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by brentkruge: 11:01pm On Aug 10, 2012
Saint paris:

Something that was acceptable 1400 years
ago in Arabia or during the middle Ages may not look that good today.
Perhaps we should not judge those people so
harshly. But the question is why should we
follow them?
I agree that morality is relative and we
should not judge the ancient people’s
morality with our modern morality.
Obviously we all cringe when we think
of pedophilia and acknowledge that it
is a shameful act of immorality. But
during the time of Muhammad, and
even today in some Islamic countries,
marrying a 9-year-old child was not
immoral. In fact Aisha was given to
Muhammad with the consent of her
parents and no one raised an eyebrow.
The question is, if sleeping with a nine
year old child was not deemed bad and
therefore was not considered immoral,
was it ok? Not everything that a society
accepts as moral is right. Having sex
with a minor may not have been
immoral for Arabs 1400 years ago or in the middle Ages, but
it is now, as it was then, unethical.
Moralities are defined by
circumstances, but ethics transcend
time and space. They are rooted in
logics. Morality can vary from culture to
culture, from time to time and from
person to person. Who is to determine
what is moral and what is not? “
Having sex with a minor may not have
been immoral for Muhammad and his
contemporaries in that uncivilized
culture, but it was ethically wrong. If
Muhammad was a messenger of God or
an honorable man, as he made his
Allah to proclaim him thus, he should
have known that what he was doing
was dishonorable and unethical.
Although it is true that in the past
people married at very young age. And
it is also true that occasionally wealthy
old men married very young girls. We
have to realize that these people acted
on their culture. We do not condemn
them for they did not know better.
What they did was the norm. But we do
condemn those cultures.
[size=15pt]However, we cannot forgive with the
same amnesty those who claimed to be
the standard of rectitude amongst
mankind. If average people could not
distinguish the right from the wrong,
the messenger of God, if he were
from God, should have known better. If
His claim was true, if his knowledge
was divine, if he was inspired, he
should not have followed the tradition
of their people but should have set the
example. Muhammad followed the
morality of his people. But that morality
was ethically wrong. He claimed to be
the best human and the last messenger
of God. According to him God has said
to people all he wanted to say in the
Quran and his religion is complete.
There is no more guidance to come and
his examples and teachings are all we
need to know and follow for eternity.
Yet what he did and said, under the
light of modern values prove to be very
wrong[/size].




Brilliantly said. Brilliant!
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by LagosShia: 11:17pm On Aug 10, 2012
LagosShia: AISHA WAS NOT 9 YEARS OLD OR A CHILD WHEN THE PROPHET MARRIED HER
[8] The popular version of ‘Ãisha’s youth age has been exploited by the anti-Islamic groups to attack the Prophet “for marrying a child”. The fact of the matter is that Lady ‘Ãisha was not a child when she was married in 2 AH to the Prophet. At-Tabari, the famous Muslim historian, writes that Abu Bakr’s first two wives and their children were all born in the pre-Islamic era. (Ta’rīkh at-Tabari, vol. 2 [Beirut: al-A‘lami, n.d.] p. 616.) Based on this, even if she was born a year before the commencement of Islam, ‘Ãisha would be 15 or 16 years old at the time of her marriage to the Prophet – an age in which marriage is common in most cultures. Ibn Kathīr, in his al-Bidãyah wa ’n-Nihãyah (vol. 8, p. 381) states that Asmã’ bint Abu Bakr, the sister of ‘Ãisha, was ten years older than ‘Ãisha. He also reports that Asmã’ died in the year 73 AH at the age of 100. Based on this calculation, ‘Ãisha was 18 or 19 years old at the time of her marriage.

https://www.nairaland.com/846958/tell-me-why-mohammed-married

na wa for blind christians.they keep whining as if they did not see the above or the link to the other thread where this topic was extensively treated.

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