kandiikane:


Just from psalm 37:29(the righteous will inherit the land and dwell in it forever) Ýou conclude there is no hell? That when people die, they die forever?

sexkillz: The righteous will be resurrected to live forever, and the wicked will not be resurrected.

Been saying this all along. Since they would not be resurrected, in effect their death is forever.

Shollypopz:
I think hell is a state. A state of "complete absence of God." (Not literal fire)

Shollypopz: lol Sexkillz u slept off yesterday

Good morning, Kandii........

@ Sexkillz: U changed d whole confusion debate, u never mentioned dis earlier on d prev. thread. U simply said Atheists were confused and I tried proving to you Christians/Religious people are more confused

Tried talking about Faith and logic but I know u naa, u never reply based on what is posed or suggested to you. I doubt if u take time to read responses.


I love ur view on hell....earlier on this thread I said;

Shollypopz: ^^^^ *Frowns*
Answer the following questions when u come back........My views on hell are not too far from urs, lol

sexkillz: No qualms.

sexkillz: You, kandii and slimyem raised different issues. In replying them all at once, everything was interwoven.

Today will be all about hell and heaven alone. Let's trash that out.

Our views on hell are kinda similar. We'll soon reach a conclusion.

Shollypopz: lol Sexkillz u slept off yesterday

Good morning, Kandii........

@ Sexkillz: U changed d whole confusion debate, u never mentioned dis earlier on d prev. thread. U simply said Atheists were confused and I tried proving to you Christians/Religious people are more confused

Tried talking about Faith and logic but I know u naa, u never reply based on what is posed or suggested to you. I doubt if u take time to read responses.


I love ur view on hell....earlier on this thread I said;

kandiikane:

Morning.

I actually have the same feeling about hell but in the end the bible states what hell will be like and we cannot mix personal feelings with the bible.

sexkillz: Did kandii actually mention 2012 as judgement day? Kai! I cant wait to get home.

kandiikane: @sholly, I usually read the bible as an outsider. It was sexkillz, who asked for quotes in the bible, if that wasn't the case then I wouldn't be arguing points blatantly out of the bible about a hell( a place of torture and great agony).
I didn't put in exactly how I feel about how I view the scriptures in my head because we are talking about what's in the bible.
There are so many contradictory statements in there and only someone with a strong faith can actually follow without going too deep to confused themselves even more.

Judgement day is believed to be the final judgement. Dead people will be given physical forms and those alive will join them to be judged with perfect justice by God.

Everything as we know it will cease to exist.--- interpreted from (2 Peter 3:10-13)


From reading the speculations about the mayan religion/culture and the hoohaas about 2012=judgement day.

The mayans did not say we would be destroyed completely and that's it, nothing more. It is said there will be a rebirth of a new world, different to what was in existance. Yes, there will be sufferings and pain but after all of that God will reveal the big plan he has for mankind.

Many similarities.

sexkillz: Let's discuss Hell, and until we are done with hell, no further issue should be raised. I need my sanity and i am on a mobile. Hard to keep up sometimes. . .

Shollypopz:
Apart from d 'bolded', we agree on everything else.
I dey come.........

I chose to ignore d Mayans part....Reading ur post again, I disagree with everything, lol OR maybe I should say I hv questions

kandiikane:

That was the whole argument sexkillz, you started bringing other issues in there and changing your stance.

It's getting boring now. The bible mentions hell. Finito!

sexkillz: Collier's Encyclopedia (1986, vol. 12, p. 28) says concerning "hell": First, it stands for the Hebrew sheol of the old testament and the Greek Hades of the septuagint and new testament. Since sheol in old testament times referred simply to the abode of the dead and suggested no moral distinctions, the word "hell", as understood today, is moth a happy translation."

"Hellfire" has been a basic teaching in Christendom for many centuries, it is understandable why the Encyclopedia American (1956, vol. XIV, p 81) said: "Much confusion and misunderstanding has been caused through the early translators of the Bible persistently rendering the Hebrew Sheol and the Greek Hades and Gehenna by the word hell. The simple transliteration of these words by the translators of the revised editions of the Bible has not sufficed to appreciably clear up this confusion and misconception"

"The transliteration and consistent rendering of those words enables a Bible student to make an accurate comparison of the texts in which those words appear and, with open mind, thereby arrive at the correct understanding of their true significance"