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Re: New Or Tokunboh Car Parts: Which Do You Prefer? by misreal(m): 7:15pm On Oct 02, 2012
luvinhubby: What factors will determine whether one should go for either new or tokunboh parts in maintaining ones car.
I may go for tokunbo if quality new ones are not available, what about you?
let me ask u a question.wud u prefer a new w.ife or an already used wi.fe cheesy
Re: New Or Tokunboh Car Parts: Which Do You Prefer? by Nightshift(m): 7:40pm On Oct 02, 2012
Over 80% of new spare parts in Nigeria are fakes from China,while the used ones are mainly original parts from Europe and North America. Isn't the difference very clear? Another food for thought: those used parts aren't overused as Nigerians imagine....
Re: New Or Tokunboh Car Parts: Which Do You Prefer? by Nobody: 7:54pm On Oct 02, 2012
^^^ In that case, it would make more sense to buy genuine NEW from Europe or the United States. How does one determine how much use a clutch, o2 sensor, brake master cylinder, brake pad set, clutch master cylinder, ABS modulator, shock absorber, suspension arm etc has left?

Fitting a used clutch is crazy, given the labour involved. The labour cost will easily out weigh the cost of a used clutch. If the transmissionn has to be pulled again 600 miles later, is there any cost saving?

No.
Re: New Or Tokunboh Car Parts: Which Do You Prefer? by vislabraye(m): 9:51pm On Oct 02, 2012
Tokunboh is best especially if its original. I was given as brand new brakepad for a Honda. Not up to two months it has worn out.
Toks is far better in every product not just car except some disposable parts.
Re: New Or Tokunboh Car Parts: Which Do You Prefer? by igbanbajo(m): 10:27pm On Oct 02, 2012
pannyman: There are still a few decent spare parts shops around. That's the beauty of Nigeria-in the midst of the rot you still find some reason for cheer once in a while.

There is this guy i discovered in Port Harcourt at the spare parts area called Ikoku. It was while i was looking for air-fuel sensors for my car and had almost given up that somebody directed me to him. His name is Amaechi and he even has an internet connection in his air conditioned shop and orders parts from the US.

@pannyman
Pls help with Amaechi's phone number.
Thanks.

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Re: New Or Tokunboh Car Parts: Which Do You Prefer? by luvinhubby(m): 11:04pm On Oct 02, 2012
misreal: let me ask u a question.wud u prefer a new w.ife or an already used wi.fe cheesy
grin grin grin
Re: New Or Tokunboh Car Parts: Which Do You Prefer? by emmatok(m): 11:04pm On Oct 02, 2012
Okija_juju: This is a no brainer.. ITS BRAND NEW anyday, everyday OR NOTHING.. Anybody who tells you that tokunbo is better than brand new is a straight up Charlatan.. Tokunbo that you are praising was once brand new in someone elses car..

The simple key word here should be GENUINE PARTS ONLY!

The point is that most brand new parts in Nigeria are substandard e.g China products.

I prefare a Used part remove from a good vehicle to any new substandard parts.
If I can't get original, Used is the best option.
Re: New Or Tokunboh Car Parts: Which Do You Prefer? by henwun(m): 4:17am On Oct 03, 2012
LastApostle: Suspension(shock absorber)for camry is 38000 new compared to tokunbo 8000.

Break pad new is 8500-tokunbo is 4000

Platinum spark plug new is 10000- tokunbo is 2500

With the economic situation of Nigeria one need to define his scale of preference.

Finally since 90 per cent of Nigeria uses tokunbo cars,let service them with tokunbo parts as only politicians and oil thieves can afford brand new vehicles.

This guy have said it all, Nigerians don't have that money to spend on OEM parts, believe me most cars you see around have not been fully paid .. And you expect them to buy new parts. That is Nigeria economy situation. You can never change that mentality . You wonder why Nigerians dying to buy Toyota and Honda ....
Re: New Or Tokunboh Car Parts: Which Do You Prefer? by VolvoS60(m): 5:37am On Oct 03, 2012
domack99: The issue their is that Standard Organization of Nigeria (SON) are not working. ow can a tokumbo part be better than a brand new, this can't happen in a country where their regulatory body is working. Most importers of parts in Nigeria go to China and demand a very low quality, quality which are not acceptable in most countries not even in china itself.

^^^^Thank you.

This is the real issue.

Nigeria is a country without standards. Anyone remember the controversy surrounding Geely automobiles?
Re: New Or Tokunboh Car Parts: Which Do You Prefer? by dapo338(m): 6:18am On Oct 03, 2012
The most ridiculous new parts in Nigerian market is Head light bulbs and horn, I can bet it, if you buy these two in new onces here in Nigeria, you are lucky if it last a month.....
Re: New Or Tokunboh Car Parts: Which Do You Prefer? by autoselect: 3:25pm On Oct 03, 2012
There are dealers that deal in genuine spare parts in Nigeria. At Autoselect, we are have formed partnerships with genuine top quality auto parts manufacturers to buck the current trend and provide genuine spare parts to Nigerians at affordable prices. Check our website at www.autoselectcorp.com. We also stock the high quality Coastal engine oil and multi-vehicle ATF. The engine oil you use matters cos more car engines are failing and knocking due to low quality lubricants.

Our products also come with money back guarantee if they don't meet your expectations. We are confident you will be satisfied. This is not a sales pitch but factual statements. Try us.
Re: New Or Tokunboh Car Parts: Which Do You Prefer? by luvinhubby(m): 3:45pm On Oct 03, 2012
The following factors are basic in determining

PURCHASING POWER - As earlier pointed out, OEM or OEQ parts are very expensive, consider buying an OEM fuel pump for N25,000 were as you can get tokunbo or China cloned for below N5,000. Most Nigerian car owners earn so little that they can`t afford OEM parts.

GREED - Chinese firms make very good parts that can meet equipment manufacturers specification, but don`t come cheap and because Chinese govt. do not force their factories to comply with ISO quality levels, anybody can manufacture anything and the lower the quality the cheaper the price and the average Nigerian auto parts importer will maximise profit at the expense of standard quality so will prefer to import the lowest grade for highest profit and 85 percent of the auto parts in Nigeria come from China and they come mainly through these greedy auto parts merchants. But a few others insist on U.S specification from Chinese manufacturers and they don`t come cheap.

NEEDED PART - Parts like complete engines, Transmission gear boxes do not come in new ones, so your only option for such item is tokunbo.

AVAILAIBILITY - OEM parts are mainly available for newer generation cars and are stocked by the auto companies or their reps in Nigeria and they often do not stock for the specs that they don`t sell. A Honda Place, will not touch or attend to your car if imported from U.S. and they sell mainly European spec Honda cars in brand new in Nigeria and the companies that stock OEM spares are few and far in-between in Nigeria.

SUBMISSION - New parts are better if only you can trust the dealers source, there Original Equipment Manufacture(OEM) parts - not readily availaible and are damn too expensive, Original Equipment Quality (OEQ) parts which are maufactured by companies that manufacture component parts for auto manufacturer (e.g. Tokico , Khyosan, Lucas, Daikin, Nissin and DEPO) which are better and last long and parts the meet Original equipment manufacturer specification(OES). DO NOT JUST TRUST YOUR MECHANIC, SOURCE YOUR PARTS YOURSELF.

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Re: New Or Tokunboh Car Parts: Which Do You Prefer? by autoselect: 4:18pm On Oct 03, 2012
Here's a related thread that is also very informative

https://www.nairaland.com/996210/what-difference-between-oem-aftermarket
Re: New Or Tokunboh Car Parts: Which Do You Prefer? by pannyman(m): 11:06pm On Oct 03, 2012
igbanbajo:

@pannyman
Pls help with Amaechi's phone number.
Thanks.

08038896515
Re: New Or Tokunboh Car Parts: Which Do You Prefer? by lastpage: 6:15pm On Oct 04, 2012
luvinhubby: The following factors are basic in determining

PURCHASING POWER - As earlier pointed out, OEM or OEQ parts are very expensive, consider buying an OEM fuel pump for N25,000 were as you can get tokunbo or China cloned for below N5,000. Most Nigerian car owners earn so little that they can`t afford OEM parts.

GREED - Chinese firms make very good parts that can meet equipment manufacturers specification, but don`t come cheap and because Chinese govt. do not force their factories to comply with ISO quality levels, anybody can manufacture anything and the lower the quality the cheaper the price and the average Nigerian auto parts importer will maximise profit at the expense of standard quality so will prefer to import the lowest grade for highest profit and 85 percent of the auto parts in Nigeria come from China and they come mainly through these greedy auto parts merchants. But a few others insist on U.S specification from Chinese manufacturers and they don`t come cheap.

NEEDED PART - Parts like complete engines, Transmission gear boxes do not come in new ones, so your only option for such item is tokunbo.

AVAILAIBILITY - OEM parts are mainly available for newer generation cars and are stocked by the auto companies or their reps in Nigeria and they often do not stock for the specs that they don`t sell. A Honda Place, will not touch or attend to your car if imported from U.S. and they sell mainly European spec Honda cars in brand new in Nigeria and the companies that stock OEM spares are few and far in-between in Nigeria.

SUBMISSION - New parts are better if only you can trust the dealers source, there Original Equipment Manufacture(OEM) parts - not readily availaible and are damn too expensive, Original Equipment Quality (OEQ) parts which are maufactured by companies that manufacture component parts for auto manufacturer (e.g. Tokico , Khyosan, Lucas, Daikin, Nissin and DEPO) which are better and last long and parts the meet Original equipment manufacturer specification(OES). DO NOT JUST TRUST YOUR MECHANIC, SOURCE YOUR PARTS YOURSELF.


You've said it all!

But let me ask: if a "New" part that is FAKE costs #5,000 and the same part as Tokunboh that is "original" costs #3,500 and the same "NEW", Genuine & Original part costs #20,000, which one of these three provides the "best" ECONOMIC DECISION to buy, in the long run, say over three years?

You'll probably buy the FAKE one ten times in three years (it falls of like mad!) = 5,000 x 10 =#50,000.

You'll probably buy the "Genuine" Tokunboh like five times (already near its life span) = 3,500 x 5 = #17,500

You'll probably buy the OEM Genuine part[b] once[/b] in three years (replacement cycle mostly) = 20,000 x 1 = #20,000

Thus, buying all these "Fake, New parts" imported by our brothers, is not only a waste of money, think about the risk you're taking, putting the life of you and your family in the "care" of such Fake products?

I think what we have is a "failure of our structures and systems" otherwise, in any sane society, those who "fake items" (be it Drugs, car parts, electrical goods, children toys, e.t.c) are on the same level as MURDERERS!

The effect of their actions goes far beyond the surface (they are killers)and they should be SHOT or given a life sentence...like any other armed criminal angry angry

But in Nigeria, anything goes, even Oyinbo people don follow join! shocked grin grin


Lastpage!

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Re: New Or Tokunboh Car Parts: Which Do You Prefer? by henwun(m): 7:57pm On Oct 04, 2012
lastpage:

You've said it all!

But let me ask: if a "New" part that is FAKE costs #5,000 and the same part as Tokunboh that is "original" costs #3,500 and the same "NEW", Genuine & Original part costs #20,000, which one of these three provides the "best" ECONOMIC DECISION to buy, in the long run, say over three years?

You'll probably buy the FAKE one ten times in three years (it falls of like mad!) = 5,000 x 10 =#50,000.

You'll probably buy the "Genuine" Tokunboh like five times (already near its life span) = 3,500 x 5 = #17,500

You'll probably buy the OEM Genuine part[b] once[/b] in three years (replacement cycle mostly) = 20,000 x 1 = #20,000

Thus, buying all these "Fake, New parts" imported by our brothers, is not only a waste of money, think about the risk you're taking, putting the life of you and your family in the "care" of such Fake products?

I think what we have is a "failure of our structures and systems" otherwise, in any sane society, those who "fake items" (be it Drugs, car parts, electrical goods, children toys, e.t.c) are on the same level as MURDERERS!

The effect of their actions goes far beyond the surface (they are killers)and they should be SHOT or given a life sentence...like any other armed criminal angry angry

But in Nigeria, anything goes, even Oyinbo people don follow join! shocked grin grin


Something should be done, who are those sectors in charge of products controls in Nigeria, those are the people to blame not the parts dealers, they allowed it, don't be surprised if they have being bribed Corrupts nation!


Lastpage!
Re: New Or Tokunboh Car Parts: Which Do You Prefer? by autoselect: 3:32pm On Oct 05, 2012
I agree, bro. a lot of the accidents on our roads are as a result of putting these low quality parts in cars i.e low quality brake pads etc. the relevant agencies for product quality controls are the Nigerian Customs and Standards Organization of Nigeria. How can thieving agencies control thieving importers.You only need to bribe them tashere money and they'll allow you to bring anything into this country.
Re: New Or Tokunboh Car Parts: Which Do You Prefer? by luvinhubby(m): 8:25pm On Oct 05, 2012
@Lastpage
What i did was to outline factors that tend to push people to tokunboh, the final call is yours ad car owner.
Re: New Or Tokunboh Car Parts: Which Do You Prefer? by Ikenna351(m): 6:52pm On Oct 28, 2012
If you have a failed engine, and you are given an option to choose between an Aftermarket brand new engine from China and a Tokunbo engine in MINT condition in Nigerian market, which would you choose?

Ikenna.
Re: New Or Tokunboh Car Parts: Which Do You Prefer? by luvinhubby(m): 8:01pm On Oct 31, 2012
Ikenna351: If you have a failed engine, and you are given an option to choose between an Aftermarket brand new engine from China and a Tokunbo engine in MINT condition in Nigerian market, which would you choose?

Ikenna.
The Tokunboh 'Mint' from Nigeria market of course.
Re: New Or Tokunboh Car Parts: Which Do You Prefer? by alphadux: 4:41pm On Jul 11, 2013
Take for example: a good quality halogen bulb eg Osram Nightbreaker plus has a lifespan of roughly 300 hours. You find the tokunbo to buy in the market, true to fact, it is original, but how much more juice do you think it has left in it?

Take plugs as a 2nd example, platinum and Iridium plugs are expensive compared to copper electrode plugs, but in reality, the only major advantage they have (platinum & iridium electrode plugs) over copper plugs is their lifespan, manufacturers recommend replacing iridium plugs every 100,000 miles (an average of 8-10yrs driving for the working class); while they recommend replacing copper plugs every 30,000 miles (an average of 3yrs). Copper plugs cost less than $15 for a set of 4. Using China plugs, you can buy as much as 10 sets in 3yrs. As for tokunboh, the average mechanic plus most car users do not know that the plug specifications are different for every car, a CRV will not use the same plugs as an Accord, and when your car starts to malfunction (jerk or misfire most times), you check and probably change out every other part & leave d plug for last probably replacing it with another set of tokunboh with the wrong clearance!

Who can say he has used 1 set of tokunbo shocks for 5yrs? Can you say d same of OEM shocks (not China)?

Cumulatively, the new OEM parts are cheaper and more reliable, but unfotunately, many of us learn this fact the hard way!

Buying tokunbo has its own dangers too.
Re: New Or Tokunboh Car Parts: Which Do You Prefer? by Nobody: 7:16pm On Dec 04, 2015
luvinhubby:
What factors will determine whether one should go for either new or tokunboh parts in maintaining ones car.
I may go for tokunbo if quality new ones are not available, what about you?
Hello luvinghubby...do u have upper O2 sensor for honda accord 07?
Re: New Or Tokunboh Car Parts: Which Do You Prefer? by luvinhubby(m): 7:47pm On Dec 04, 2015
gmyguy:
Hello luvinghubby...do u have upper O2 sensor for honda accord 07?

10k
Re: New Or Tokunboh Car Parts: Which Do You Prefer? by Nobody: 8:32pm On Dec 04, 2015
luvinhubby:


10k
is it denso?
Re: New Or Tokunboh Car Parts: Which Do You Prefer? by luvinhubby(m): 4:05pm On Dec 05, 2015
gmyguy:
is it denso?
Na sensor or denso you wan buy?

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