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Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by Nobody: 4:45pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by dabossman(m): 4:55pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
Sagamite: Sagamite, save your energy. You should know that Nigerians suffer from a serious case of collective amnesia. Give it a few years from now and even the much maligned GEJ will become a hero and a saint. He will even be described as the best thing to happen to Nigeria. We always tend to forget too soon. 1 Like |
Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by aljharem(m): 5:00pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
Funny things you here on nl. Treason againstn illegal government ? Where in the world does a legal government commit treason against an illegal one. Lol na wa for abagworo. nadeco made bombs when and how |
Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by Abagworo(m): 5:04pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
I'm beginning to notice a pattern in Nigerian politics. The Southwest should realize that the rise of internet has reduced the media influence they once commanded. Only one region cannot determine who is good or bad based on their own biased view and previous control of print media. Mgbati propaganda press dead and gone. |
Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by Abagworo(m): 5:04pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
alj harem: Funny things you here on nl. Treason againstn illegal government ? Where in the world does a legal government commit treason against an illegal one. Lol na wa for abagworo. |
Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by aljharem(m): 5:10pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
Abagworo: I'm beginning to notice a pattern in Nigerian politics. The Southwest should realize that the rise of internet has reduced the media influence they once commanded. Only one region cannot determine who is good or bad based on their own biased view and previous control of print media. Mgbati propaganda press dead and gone. Smh, just smh. |
Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by dayokanu(m): 5:12pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
Abagworo: I'm beginning to notice a pattern in Nigerian politics. The Southwest should realize that the rise of internet has reduced the media influence they once commanded. Only one region cannot determine who is good or bad based on their own biased view and previous control of print media. Mgbati propaganda press dead and gone. Now the bigot in you is coming out. Show us where NADECO was the first to plant bombs in Nigeria. Like NADECO was the one who bombed Dele Giwa. NADECO was the one who killed Saro Wiwa, Nadeco kill Shehu Musa Yar Adua, NADECO killed Alfred rewane, NADECO killed Kudirat, Bagauda Kaltho, NADECO planned to kill Ibru Its the Mgbati people that lied on Abacha for doing this He did not kill anyone even though Sgt Rogers, Frank Omenka, DMI Sabo all confessed to the crime |
Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by aljharem(m): 5:18pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
dayokanu: |
Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by aljharem(m): 5:20pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
. Abagworo mhen you disappoint me. So you too be bigot. Nwannem wetin happen |
Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by Pukkah: 5:27pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
Abagworo: I'm beginning to notice a pattern in Nigerian politics. The Southwest should realize that the rise of internet has reduced the media influence they once commanded. Only one region cannot determine who is good or bad based on their own biased view and previous control of print media. Mgbati propaganda press dead and gone. You have betrayed your deep-seated hatred and bigotry towards a group of people. No wonder your arguments have been trying to turn history on its head. With this said, there's no point continuing to discuss with you. Have a nice day. |
Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by solomonkane(m): 5:28pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
Under Abacha's regime, rich people cooked with kerosine stove, poor people used sawdust to cook (Abacha stove) Under Abacha's regime, people disappeared and were never heard of again. Under Abacha's regime, I understood what inflation actually meant I can go on and on and on, bottomline is that Abacha was a vile, murderous, disgusting dog who maimed, murdered and killed irrespective of tribe, ethnicity or religion (dethronement of Sultan Dasuki, murders of Kudirat, Saro-Wiwa, Bagauda Kaltho, Musa Yar'Adua, Alfred Rewane etc) and I make to say that Bayelsa is under a curse, that will explain why nincompoops, dogs and advanced lunatics keep becoming governors. |
Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by dabossman(m): 5:31pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
I can't even shake my head for some of these pro-Abacha comments. I actually have tears in my eyes. I weep for this country. Immortalize Abacha? What the...? Seun please we need a weepy-eyed emoticon on this forum. |
Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by Nobody: 5:34pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
How old were you during Abacha's regime? https://www.nairaland.com/823498/sani-abacha-honest-one-nigerias solomonkane: Under Abacha's regime, rich people cooked with kerosine stove, poor people used sawdust to cook (Abacha stove) |
Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by aljharem(m): 5:34pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
dabossman: I can't even shake my head for some of these pro-Abacha comments. I actually have tears in my eyes. I weep for this country. Immortalize Abacha? What the...? Seun please we need a weepy-eyed emoticon on this forum.looool lmao . Oh mine oh mine |
Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by aljharem(m): 5:36pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
solomonkane: Under Abacha's regime, rich people cooked with kerosine stove, poor people used sawdust to cook (Abacha stove) |
Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by Nobody: 5:37pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
Sagamite: person leaders leading a baboon majority in a Banana republic. Animal Farm. The Sheep also prayed for Napoleon. |
Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by solomonkane(m): 5:44pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
[quote author=GenBuhari] How old were you during Abacha's regime? https://www.nairaland.com/823498/sani-abacha-honest-one-nigerias [/quote I was much older than you presently are if you care to know. Everything I wrote, my adult mind witnessed so put up a credible defence or forever hold your peace. |
Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by Nobody: 5:44pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
[size=22pt]Here is a challenge for all those criticising Abacha: [/size][size=16pt]Name any performance indicator (e.g. Inflation , sporting achievement, exchange rate, anti-corruption policies) and I will furnish evidence how Abacha outperformed all the subsequent presidents put together.[/size] |
Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by cjrane: 5:49pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
Abacha was a very great Nigerian,whose only sin was that he didn't agree to quit after he made the promise to do so.He personally believed he had to be there to guide the birth of a prosperous, glorious Nigeria. Personally,Abacha was one of the greatest Nigerians for his achievements in just 5 years.The Ijaw for one, would never have had their own state if it was not for him.Also,he was the only Nigerian leader that realized that Nigerians needed some type of dialogue to continue living together in peace after the June 12th issue. Abacha's triumph as an astute administrator is that inspite of ruling Nigeria at the worst period of crisis,there was never anything like Niger Delta militants or Boko haram.Instead he wanted to bequeath Nigeria a constitutional guarantee that power shall rotate between the north and south every 8 years, which would have permanently ended the tension generated by struggle for political power between north and south.Indeed, Oladipo Diya praised Abacha's skills at mediation and reaching a compromise even in very difficult situations, after Diya observed Abacha's dialogue with Afenifere leader Pa. Abraham Adesanya of blessed memory. Bayelsa State is indeed right to honor such a great man that gave them freedom and self determination. |
Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by Nobody: 5:52pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
Well said cjrane! cjrane: Abacha was a very great Nigerian,whose only sin was that he didn't agree to quit after he made the promise to do so.He personally believed he had to be there to guide the birth of a prosperous, glorious Nigeria.Well said cjrane!
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Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by Nobody: 5:58pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
Have you considered the fact that may just be the person that is wallowing in ignorance? https://www.nairaland.com/823498/sani-abacha-honest-one-nigerias dabossman: I can't even shake my head for some of these pro-Abacha comments. I actually have tears in my eyes. I weep for this country. Immortalize Abacha? What the...? Seun please we need a weepy-eyed emoticon on this forum. |
Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by Sagamite(m): 6:09pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
cjrane: Abacha was a very great Nigerian,whose only sin was that he didn't agree to quit after he made the promise to do so.He personally believed he had to be there to guide the birth of a prosperous, glorious Nigeria. You are a cretinous person! A moronic product of the consequences to the Nigeria's education system of rulers like Abacha! |
Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by swoosh(m): 6:11pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
Sagamite: Sagamite: |
Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by Nobody: 6:11pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
[size=18pt]Hey Sagamite, do you still believe that Obasanjo is the greatest leader Nigeria has ever had?[/size] |
Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by Nobody: 6:14pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
Because Sagamite believe Obasanjo is the best leader we ever had, you should all see that it is pointless arguing with him. |
Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by Sagamite(m): 6:17pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
GenBuhari: You are beyond a person! You are obviously not mentally balanced. I have already said it. https://www.nairaland.com/878081/nigerian-billionaire-battles-british-wife/19#11924662 Cretin! |
Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by Nobody: 6:21pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
^Answer my question na!! Is Obj the best president that Nigeria has produced? Yes or No? |
Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by Sagamite(m): 6:23pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
GenBuhari: Answer a question from a person that said Abacha is great and did not loot Nigeria? I would rather put a straitjacket on your moronic arsse! |
Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by Nobody: 6:28pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
[size=18pt]Swiss court notes on so called "Abacha Loot" case, shows Abacha maliciously and unjustly blamed[/size] http://www.mcswisslaw.com/pages_e/2008%20Monfrini%20-%20The%20Abacha%20Case.pdf " The existence of a system of confiscation orders that is independent from a criminal conviction is therefore a necessity in grand corruption cases. In this context, reversing the burden of proof or imposing procedural consequences on the failure of the asset holder to cooperate regarding the origin of the assets, appear to be best legislative practice. The presumption of innocence does not necessarily apply to confiscation proceedings and ‘presumptions of fact or of law operate in every criminal-law system and are not prohibited in principle’ and therefore do not breach the right to a fair trial.28" [size=18pt]This is 21 page Swiss court document but the above extract is very revealing indeed. Basically, by qualifying Abacha's family members together with PDP stooges claiming to be Abacha's business associates as a 'Criminal Organisation', Nigerian Government did not need to prove that the funds in the foreign accounts belonged to Abacha, The Onus was on Abacha to proof that he was innocent of the charges. Of course a deceased man could not do that. Abacha's son Mohammed could not fully challenge the allegations as he was locked up at the time by Obasanjo.[/size]
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Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by cjrane: 6:32pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
Sagamite: At the peak of fuel scarcity in 2001,i observed a bunch of soldiers trying to bring order in a filling station where there was a free for all fight over limited fuel,with some threatening to throw a burning cigarette at the area with a bunch of 50 liters fuel jerrycans.The soldiers succeeded,but had injured many people.But they justified their force by saying if the man with the cigarette had lit the place as he had promised to do,everyone would not just be bruised but dead.That is somewhat related to what Abacha did for Nigeria.He didn't annul the June 12th elections,but he had to keep the country from slipping into a Sierra-Leone type of civil war,in which many many more would have perished. @ Sagamite, It is a waste time to join issues with an slowpoke.However, History is history.You don't even know your history,but blinded by primordial hatred for a man that did his best to hold his country together.Abacha had to be a firm and decisive leader so that Nigeria would not disintegrate.The same thing you guys criticize GEJ for not being firm on national issues. By benefit of hindsight,Abacha was a great leader whether you are blinded by tribal emotions or not.All the issues he proposed to do before his death,from national reconciliation and issue of power rotation, which was thrown out of the window by Obasanjo out of hatred for the man that jailed him, are the only solution to Nigeria's crisis today.I concede he made mistakes by thinking he was the only person that could nurture the birth of nascent Nigeria, but judged against what others who came after him did, Abacha was a true patriot who wanted Nigeria to succeed. |
Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by Nobody: 6:32pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
@Sagamite Most of my assertions are backed up by hard evidence, sources and research. Can you say the same for your posts? |
Re: Bayelsa To Immortalise Sani Abacha by Nobody: 6:33pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
GenBuhari: [b][size=22pt]Here is a challenge for all those criticising Abacha: This is just like comparing second to last to last. Or a groupie thinking she's better than a pros.titute. |
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