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|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by Medley(m): 11:53am On Oct 07, 2012|
kodewrita: If awolowo hated you so much then why did he ensure that houses of the Igbos in lagos and other realestate were not collected from them. In one case, rent was even collected on behalf of the owners and handed over when the war ended.
all these was after the war has ended. You dont expect him to make himself known for a bad notion after the war. After all he achieved what he wanted, then he was now able to form good man.
|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by mkoabiola: 11:54am On Oct 07, 2012|
Apart frm his novel "things fall apart" what has Chinua Achebe done or achieved for d ibo race.mtchewwww
|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by Dainfamous: 11:54am On Oct 07, 2012|
[b]Nigerian hear and listen for blood to stop and peace to reign, we must ask God almighty forgiveness for killing innocent little children,unborn baby and their mother.blood are crying frm the lands toward my ear millions asking for mercy and revenge.prayer and fasting will move my hands frm your country only if the killers asked forgiveness frm the victims,my children are kill there names will be remember from North to South I created by my power and wisdom.if u want peace do the right thing or u are doom. Entire world will remembered u as a history saying this country has everything but they cannot feed their children,I gave them crude oil but they are still poor,I gave them wisdom but they are cowards.poor nations will feed u and rich nations will rule u because u are curse with a curse.A great country is now falling apart repent before it is too late,my hands are open to welcome u and heal your land,be wise my children stop being cowards repent frm your sins,because my judgement is true says the LORD,your land has open and swallow bloods. U are a country that will remain like this until u guys learn one. Two and three.SAYS THE GOD...[/b]
|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by Wislet(f): 11:59am On Oct 07, 2012|
Igbos are not cry babies.
When your own people were killed in their millions, its memory alone is heart wrenching.
A simple acknowledgement and possibly an apology for not intervening fast enough when the massacre was going on against a particular people in the north, is enough to defuse any hurt and tears remaining from that time.
Not defences up and down.
We continue to ask: what happened during the war? Were we there?
We can find that answer in our present day with the goings-on in the north. War against a group of people- again.
Is someone doing something about it? Is the government acknowledging to the people that they see what is happening, and do everything in their power to stop it?
When they protest, what is done?
Itt is easy to call them 'ungrateful, troublemakers', when the people involved are not largely your people.
Let us leave sentiments aside pls , and face the situation head on.
When something is bad, say it is bad. Do not colour it even if your brother is involved.
The solution to This nation's problem will be when the right apologies are given/adequate security is given to the same people you want to be a part of the entity Nigeria.
How can they live comfortably when history against their people is being repeated?
And the same ELDERS posing as advisers cannot deem it fit to 'advise' their own people to stop killing innocent citizens.
See how fast they have come out to talk about a book. Yet the same people conveniently ignore that the atrocity going on in their backyard is of greater urgency than a mere book.
May God have mercy on us as a nation.
So much hypocricy!
The past is past.
A book is there to learn and move on...not fight over it.
But the War going on presently at our backyard? Why can't they channel that much energy into a more urgent topic?
Which of them has ever opened their mouth to address it?
God's wrath will not spare the wicked. Because it is wicked to keep silent while people are dying just because they aren't your people.
|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by sweetgala(m): 12:02pm On Oct 07, 2012|
It is obvious you are not well studied about the aftermath of the war, Gowon a man I greatly respect came out and gave what is still the greatest public address made by a Nigerian . I have a copy on my computer somewhere. He rebuked the notion of victor or vanquished. Pleaded for Nigerians to settle old scores and move on. War is not a pretty discussion . Go read Eisenhower, Stallin , Hitler ,Churchills memoirs they were all equally suspicious of each other , all feared the capacity of the other to undermine each others national interest but never spoke evil of the other.
That is what Achebe has done , concentrated an attack on dead patriots to destroy their national and international image for personal gratification and because while they were alive he did not have the audacity to do so. He is looking for cheap scores against a dead man. How absurd
|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by ikeyman00(m): 12:04pm On Oct 07, 2012|
+ + + 1000000000000000000000000
these people with the truth should be the next achebe book
|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by CyberG: 12:10pm On Oct 07, 2012|
Wislet: Igbos are not cry babies.
I am sure you know so little about the war but lies you read on NL. If ojuku says be is prepared for war with the iboz and he will finish the other side quickly, would you still expect apology from the people he planned to finish quickly? Yes, I have the evidence but if you descend to insults and abuse, I will see no need to even have a rational conversation on this issue.
|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by Chanchit: 12:16pm On Oct 07, 2012|
I wish I could say sorry to Achebe, so that he can finally rest in peace.
|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by Chanchit: 12:24pm On Oct 07, 2012|
Toaskarity: Gowon! He is the only one remaing and funny enuf, he has no remorse for what he did!
Nxt time, before you mention Pa Awolowo and Adekunle start by putting (S A W)
|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by Chanchit: 12:30pm On Oct 07, 2012|
You're an imbe cile. I can't even buy the pirated copy of the crap called silly memoir.
|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by Nobody: 12:48pm On Oct 07, 2012|
The Question is : Is Chinua Achebe Lying ? And the Answer is 'NO!' The what puzzles me is 'Why Hide The Truth ?' Why not Learn from the Mistakes ?
|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by Wislet(f): 12:51pm On Oct 07, 2012|
CyberG:talk rationally dear.
Insults or anything like that was not seen anywhere, don't know why u bring that up.
|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by myola(m): 12:52pm On Oct 07, 2012|
onomeasike: I believe that those Biafran soldiers and the descendants of those biafran soldiers who ambushed and steal food meant for the vulnerable group are still alive.knowing the psychology of an average uniformed man even in present day nigeria,those women and children would have been derided as 'bloody civilians' who dont need the food as much as they the soldiers do.They must have been feeling wise in their eyes everytime they loot the food meant for the children.Those igbos who participated in these dastardly act should take the blame,they should apologise for stealing food meant for their wives and children.I hope achebe remembered to put wole shoyinka and co. Efforts and contributions to avoid the war in his book. Instead of calling a spade a spade achebe is here pushing blames, there is no where u fight war and there will be peace and people will not dies. Why going into war then if you don't want killing and famine in ur land.
|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by logica(m): 12:53pm On Oct 07, 2012|
Can anybody in here please tell us what the Biafran "Liberation" Army did to the residents of Benin City on their "liberation" match towards Lagos? Anybody?
|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by Remzolution: 12:56pm On Oct 07, 2012|
vanunu: Truth is indeed bitter, the biafra war was the most horrible war since 1945, in less than three years more than 2million Igbos died those that are responsible for this crime most surely go to hell.where did u get ur statistics?
|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by Abbycite(m): 12:57pm On Oct 07, 2012|
One thing I have deduced from all d Igbos comment above is that, no matter their age, sex or status, d thinking faculty is always d same. By dis time, I expect them to av learnt lessons about war. But in case they don't, let us give them points to remember:
* B4 starting a war, be rest assure of at least one super power backing. Not d support of countries like Uganda, Cyprus and co.
* U have to be sure of ur strategy to sustain ur people economically so that u don't av to rely on ur enemy to be d major supplier of foods.
* Let all hand be on deck, I mean u surround urself with all manner of intellectual and patriotic advisers that will not necessarily be at d war front but will see what soldiers will not see.
* And lastly and most importantly, don't be an Ojukwu that will mislead his pple to blieve that they are capable of conquering d world. Whereas all they really have is d zeal and machetes to confront armour tanks, machine guns etc.
I put dis forward because I can sense some gullible and silly human being that av failed to learn from d stories of d past war...now they can sit behind their computers to clamour for war. #I pity una#
|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by Yujin(m): 12:59pm On Oct 07, 2012|
I want to appeal to the Igbos not to generalise on the whole Yoruba nation simply because of Awo and a few others. Yorubas are not your enemies. Among them, some paid the with their lives against the injustice at the time. Would you vent your anger on the children on those that sympathized with your plight? Awo is the culprit and I know that if Soyinka will comment, he will not exonerate him and never will. Let your minds rule over your hearts.
Lets take a look at the big picture. Why was the war fought?
The war was fought to neutralize the only potent region capable of putting a stop to making nigeria an islamic estate of Uthman Ibn Hodio. But why were the hausa/fulanis apparently absent in nigeria's leadership during the war? It was deliberate; it was to cause perpetual hatred amongst the would-be subordinates- the middlebelt(christian north) and the south just as is happening here and now. The brain behind the war is the hausa/fulanis. They regard themselves as 'born to rule' which we all know but the question is 'why'? Simply because they see the present nigeria as a conquered territory already. Do you now understand what that mallam Tanko or so replied Asari Dokubo some months ago. Awolowo didn't want to be part of the war- true but secretly, he wished the Igbos were greatly reduced in number. The hausa/fulanis knew the capability of the Igbos and would have backed out if the West had insisted on neutrality but we all that Awo(the west) gave in by succumbing to the threat that a one mile corridor be given from Offa(kwara which is the north) to Apapa wharf. This was how Western nigeria was conquered and Awo cooperated to actualise his hidden intentions.
We all know that majority of the soldiers that fought on the nigerian side were northern christians and southerners(both Yorubas and minorities). Only few hausa/fulanis fought the war confirming Sardauna's word of 'using the northern christians as cannon fodders'. The hausa/fulanis allowed Gowon to stay a few more years before kicking him out and transferring the capital to Abuja- closer to 'home'. You now understand why Gowon's brother Bukar Sukar Dimka struck and killed Murtala. The game plan became evident to him and the northern christians. You now understand why Orkar's coup and map excised the core north from nigeria. You now understand why some middlebelt youths are apologising to the Igbos. Presently, they are regretting. You now understand why the hausa/fulanis are wiping off the Beroms, Tivs, Sayawas and many others in the middlebelt region. Stick to what Achebe said and leave the Yoruba nation alone.
|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by logica(m): 1:07pm On Oct 07, 2012|
Yujin: Awo is the culpritCulprit of what? Does Awolowo owe the Igbos anything (especially considering how he had been treated by Nnamdi Azikwe and co)? And please don't come up with the oft-repeated myth of "promise to secede" if Igbos secede. Yorubas have never been follow-follow as we think independently.
|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by OYINBOGOJU(m): 1:10pm On Oct 07, 2012|
Achebe is mentally,Spiritually,Physically,fundamentally and economically gradually fallen apart.
|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by IykeD(m): 1:15pm On Oct 07, 2012|
OYINBOGOJU: Achebe is mentally,Spiritually,Physically,fundamentally and economically gradually fallen apart.
You need help Mr that's if it's not too late already.
|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by myola(m): 1:16pm On Oct 07, 2012|
abouzaid: Awo even claimed in the interview that they were sending food through d red cross and caritas. The source of d materials are well known, it was from biafra friends abroad especially d american red cross and d catholic church. Caritas was exclusively owned by d catholic church. That interview was just awo begging for igbo votes. Wole soyinka was imprisoned for yrs for opposing what he saw as an unjust war. Relax soyinka might soon release his review or memoir to describe awo for what he was.
Did they listened to those that said they should not go to war ? No! Ojukwu caused the war and ran away, was ojukwu children among the bombed and starved ?. Another one is calling for war now that him and his children will not pertake and u are jubilating for him. Think twice o.
|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by logica(m): 1:24pm On Oct 07, 2012|
logica: Can anybody in here please tell us what the Biafran "Liberation" Army did to the residents of Benin City on their "liberation" match towards Lagos? Anybody?
|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by Yujin(m): 1:24pm On Oct 07, 2012|
logica: Culprit of what? Does Awolowo owe the Igbos anything (especially considering how he had been treated by Nnamdi Azikwe and co)? And please don't come up with the oft-repeated myth of "promise to secede" if Igbos secede. Yorubas have never been follow-follow as we think independently.Mr, did finish reading before replying? I mean Awo's policies both during and after the war NOT the whole Yorubas. A man who said he(west) would be neutral but later cowardly renegaded to join forces with the north.
|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by Blueboy0402: 1:25pm On Oct 07, 2012|
...he will be remembered as a (con)artist,an invalid cripple reference who became a bilionaire in his 80's selling falsehood...
After reading your comment, I got engulfed by a sudden palpable sence of disbelief as you loathe with bitter odium over a man who gave an account of an event from his own perspective. You have only exposed your shallow and premature mind. How on earth did you release trash from your venom infested mouth that prof Achebe became a billionaire in his 80's? I'm very sure you were still in your mothers womb when his world acclaimed novel "Things Fall Apart" gave him fame and fortune. Your ignorance is so pathetic.
|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by logica(m): 1:33pm On Oct 07, 2012|
Yujin:Dude, he was right. The West was very much neutral (and as a matter of fact was leaning in favor of Biafra) until the ill-conceived push towards Lagos. All Biafra had to do was hold on tight as up till that move, the war was in a state of doldrums.
|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by Chanchit: 1:38pm On Oct 07, 2012|
|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by Nobody: 1:40pm On Oct 07, 2012|
That is not quite right. Achebe will convert his wheel chair to an armoured tank and personally lead ibos back to Biafra.
|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by chino11(m): 1:51pm On Oct 07, 2012|
jadakiss213: BTW,Why did Ojukwu say Awolowo was the best President Nigeria never had??
Ojukwu as an Oxford scholar cannot speak in the plain language people understand easily. That statement credited to Ojukwu was a code and a signal to we Biafrans and other Nigerians who understand the code. The code meant that Awoalowoa is the worst and devil-incarnate 'president' that Nigeria never had..
|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by size38: 1:55pm On Oct 07, 2012|
I believe that Achebe is quite on point. Those who accused this icon of druming war song are jst bitter to hear the truth. Since after the war, has nigeria known peace?. Nigeria is still at war till date because what boko haram and their muslim brothers are doing still amount to genocide
|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by Hearme(m): 1:56pm On Oct 07, 2012|
LETS LIVE IN PEACE. TO DESTROY IS EASIER THAN TO BUILD. JUST LOOK AT LIBYA TRYING TO RECOVER OR THE DAMAGES IN SYRIA. WHICH SCHOOL WILL RUN ITS DEGREE PROGRAM DURING WAR? ITS NOT A THING TO PRAY FOR. HOW ABOUT LIBERIA OR SIREE-LEON? CAN YOU IMAGINE DOING SOMETHING WITHOUT YOUR HANDS? THINK.
|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by Nobody: 1:58pm On Oct 07, 2012|
I guess it is kind of similar to going to Ivory coast in search of peace, right?
|Re: Achebe's Civil War Memoir's Invitation For Fresh War — CPC by logica(m): 1:59pm On Oct 07, 2012|
chino11:You are correct to an extent; irony/parody is alien to most Nigerians. But it's not as complicated as you made it to be. Just that majority are not sophisticated enough.
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