candygosh:
Even biblically, it was written that for this reason shall a man leave his mother and father and be united to his wife and they will become one flesh. It didn't say he will leave his mother and father and begin to assert authority on his wife and make her his slave.

Again my opponent said that "why do Real men show their superiority
in a relationship?
But excuse me mr bennyraz, how do one define a real man in a relationship??
Does enforcing superiority show being a real man??
What man calls himself real by not valuing his partners opinion, by ignoring her emotions, by making her his pet??

As also said by my opponent "The truth is, a
man will only assert or show is superiority in a relationship when the woman in question is
not cooperative, stubborn, and disobedient.
Everyman as what he believes in, therefore it is highly important for a woman to share in
the hopes and aspiration of a man in order to have a successful relationship. Behind every
successful man, there's a supportive, Obedient, cooperative woman"





Nowoman will ever be happy with an abusive and assertive relationship where a man tells her that she must not do this and must not do dat!

bennyraz: first of all.. lmao

bennyraz: second of all.. . There's nothing to dispute but i will answer your questions

bennyraz: [size=13pt]Who is a Real man in a Relationship?[/size]

A real man will only go into a relationship when he is ready to settle down i.e. When he is Ready & Ripe for Marriage. And a man is only Real when he his successful in his chosen career. Who is a real man in a Relationship? A Real man in a relationship is loving, caring and patient. The moment you as a woman want to take him for a ride due to the love he has for you, then a real man will have no choice than to stamp his Authority in the Relationship.. If a real man is in Love with his Career than you, he might throw you out of his car because he has no time for stupidities.

candygosh: Pardon me pls and correct me if am mistaken. There are more than just one question in my arguement that you are to address and my question isn't who is a real man? My question is how do one define a real man in a realtionship?

kandiikane: ^you're blabbering.

candygosh:

I want to ask him ; am not a religious type but if God created man to be stronger and decisive then why was the woman created??
I want to say that the woman was created so she could be his helper
-she was created so he would have a companion.

And a companion is someone you can share your everything with.

A companion is not someone you should assert your authority on.


man will only assert or show is superiority in a relationship when the woman in question is
not cooperative, stubborn, and disobedient.
Everyman as what he believes in, therefore it is highly important for a woman to share in
the hopes and aspiration of a man in order to have a successful relationship. Behind every
successful man, there's a supportive, Obedient, cooperative woman"



No woman will ever be happy with an abusive and assertive relationship where a man tells her that she must not do this and must not do dat!
So also every man is to share in what his woman believes.

Behind every sucessful relationship is a listening man who doesn't jettisson the counsel of his woman.

Reading between the lines of my opponents post Has also made me come to the conclusion that its only a self centered man that exerts his authority in a relationship and also disrespect her opinions.

I hope I have been able to convince you further in this round and hope that I would be called upon to enlighthen us more in the subsequent round.

“Real magic in relationships means an absence of judgment of others.” - Wayne Dyer


I remain candygosh.
Thank you

sexkillz: Only the first 2 posts from a debater addressing the issue would be considered.

Judges take note.

dont8:

My name is dont8, all protocol duly observed...

I'm here to add to what my 'Teammates' have said so far.

I'll start with the cliche that says, give a woman an inch and she will take a mile, in that regard, the man has to assert his authority/superioty in the relationship, if that relationship is to work. We all know that two captains cannot be in a ship or else, it turns Titanic and it will capsize and hit a brickwall.

What feminist apologists and the male in the opposing team dont realise is that, for a relationship/marriage to work, the woman has to be a sheep, that is, she must be submissive and obedient at the same time, so she knows who the boss is.

What baffles me nowadays is that the church is condoning what the bible frowns /teaches concerning women in the church, because they're not even allow to talk in places of worship, but remain silent and if need be for them to talk, they have to talk to the man she's sitting with, this shows how God views the importance of man's authority towards women generally.

But I must say, asserting authority is not same as, bullying, harrassing or intimidating towords women, but to control her exccesiveness and must be submissive for her own good.

Thank you.

Speaking to you this day is acidosis, the only male opposing the notion, "a man is right to assert his superiority in a relationship".
Sincerely speaking, I do not know where this gross misinformation come from.

Love is not a jumbled expression involving old notions picked up here and there, faulty conclusions based on personal experience
or flawed reasonings due to cultural, ancestral and fetish influences. It is expected of a man in a romantic relationship to love his lady,

this kind of love means a powerful affinity, devotion and desire with genuine concern for the interests and needs of the one being loved.

This love suggests a volitional act, not a violational type which entails male domination gingered by a commandant spirit which in turn produce wife-beaters.

A man in a romantic relationship should not see himself as an absolute dictatorial Monarch, or a boss over a servant. His roles is chiefly that of loving responsibility and a demostration of a self giving life to the woman.

My dear listeners/audience, I have searched the whole world widely through the web but am yet to see a verse where a man is licensed to assert authority like a dictatorial monarch upon his spouse - not even in the Bible/ Encyclopaedia Britanica. Ladies are only encouraged to submit to their men but a man does not have the right to demand, assert or extract submission authoritatively.
Submission is HER choice— her responsibility… it is NOT his right!! Not ever. She is to “submit herself”—

deciding when and how to submit is her call. In an ideal relationship the focus is never on rights, but on personal responsibility. It’s his
responsibility to be affectionate. It’s her responsibility to be agreeable.

Positionally, a man is the head of the family. However his headship is not to be equated with rulership and lordship and even the human body understand this fact. The body comprises of the Head, Trunk and limbs. I've studied both the anatomical and physiological functions of the body and categorically speaking the Head is nothing but an experimental specimen without the trunk. In this manner, a man has no right to demand either obedience from the bone of his bone or assert superiority with muscles and ligaments directly and indirectly.

However, this is not a call for women liberation but a delusional liberation of men from assertive calls in RELATIONSHIPS!

Mrs..Chima:



Good morning Mr. Dont8.

The correct idiom is “Give a man an inch and he take a mile” exemplify individuals whom are too foolish and selfish to appreciate kindness and generosity. How can a man who thinks he is superior over his wife possess kindness and generosity?

According to your explanation of the above idiom, you contradicted yourself by stating that a man should assert authority/superiority in the relationship if a woman take a mile, but who should assert authority/superiority in the relationship if a man takes a mile?

You have raised some significant tidbits that I have the opportunity to eloquently address. It is interesting that you have mentioned titanic and captain in your argument. Now bear with me as I explain the role and duty of each crewmember of titanic. A standard cruise ship consists of these following:
• Ship Master
• Staff Captain
• Safety Officer
• Petty Officer
• Boatswain/boatman
• Cruise Director
• General Staff Member

Each title has a specific responsibility and authority to ensure prevention of potential shipwreck.

The structure and operation of a cruise ship is similar to a family in marital relationship. The head, typically the man is the shipmaster and the neck; typically the woman is the staff captain of the ship. Shipmaster and staff captain have similar authority and responsibilities of the cruise ship, however the shipmaster oversees the operation and navigation of the cruise ship with supportive reports, propositions, and management of staff captain. The other officers and staff members are the children in marital relationship from the eldest to the youngest.

Because of effective communication, respect, compassion, love, and patience between the shipmaster, staff captain, officers, and staff members there are no threat of mutiny on our ship (Personal Experience of Mrs. Chima, 2012).

A debate content with biblical references is like copying and pasting theologies of opinionated and questionable religious authors. However according to your bible, if you look at Ephesians 5 (KJV) it illustrates that in a standard Christian family that Christ is the head, which He gave responsibility to the man to carry out in his family and wives to submit to their husbands as their husbands submit to Christ. Christ gave specific instructions to the husbands to love thy wives as Christ love the church.

Now let look at the definition of submission and feminism, according to a standard dictionary, feminism is a doctrine advocating social, political, and other rights of women equal to those of men. Why would a spiritual man that loves his wife not to support equal rights she deserves? Do you think your Christ will accept belittling attitude and speech toward your wife that He specifically instructed the husbands to love thy wives as Christ love the church? I think not, sir.

How can I as a non-religious person accept such laden contradictions? I have seen “Christian marriages” that share your marital philosophy and I must say sir, some of these women and men are denouncing the very fabric of what marriage institution represent.

The dictionary states that submissive is act of meek, humbly, obedient, and dutiful. I have noticed something when I read the definition of submissiveness that when given an example, it states submissive servants, not woman nor man. An orthodox Muslim demonstrates true meaning of a submissive servant to Allah. A Muslim man can teach his cruise members how to be humbly servants by being an example.

By the true definitions of feminism and submissiveness, I am a proud feminist who wants equal rights in life and prosperity as I am afforded and have no qualms being submissive to the head as the head leads by an example.

I am assuming that your biblical reference regarding women in the church and how they should act is from King James Version. Now bear with me as I eloquently address the above reference According to 1 Corinth. 14: 34 states that women should remain silence during public worship and refrain from asking questions that may disrupt pastoral sermon and ask thy husbands at home.

In contradiction, 1 Peter 3:1 states that wives be submissive to thy husbands so that if they do not behave according to the word by your silence and actions shall turn them or won them over.

The two verses contradict each other because? in one verse it prohibit women from teaching or asking questions during public worship but in another verse instruct women to lead by an example with their actions. If such husbands are not living according to the word how can such women win over dirt with dirt? Why would a woman want a man to assert authority and superiority over her if he is using contradicting verses of religious and dead authors to prove his opinion?

I will not even touch on the subject of male evangelists being questioned and accused of fraud by governmental and public figures.

As I close, you are correct asserting authority is not the same as bullying or intimidating women in relationships. It means the right to act in a specified way by delegating and overseeing operation of his home as a shipmaster would of his ship. If a cruise ship were to operate base on your definition of marital relationship and how it should be run with superior attitude, fortunately my cruise ship would have enough lifeboats to save your debris.

A man that controls his cruise ship without leading by an example will not prevent a mutiny or shipwreck. I think the staff captain and crewmembers have better chance of survival stranded on a deserted island.

Thank you.

Mrs.Chima:
Sexkillz, just for clarification do I respond to Dont8's response to my argument or wait until the judges score the first post?

I am about to travel.

uj_sizzle: Excuse me, aren't we supposed to counter our opponent's opening argument?

uj_sizzle: Please my opponent's argument is in blue and my rebuttal in red. thank you