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Joagbaje: You're the one adding to scriptures here. God never said tithe is obsolete you are the one saying so. The abolishment of the law has nothing to do with tithe because it didnt originate in the law. It pre-existed the law.

tpia@:
the money you were intending to use for a new car, pair of jeans, girlfriend, etc, can also be used to help the poor.


the price of two bottles of odeku (beer) can feed someone.


you and your girlfriend/s can donate the funds meant for brazilian hair and blackberry, as well as buying nollywood movies to add to the thousands of titles you already have, can also be given to the poor.

2buff: I don't "well know". It just sounds to me like you find it difficult to love.
I take it you would also suspect that the man crawling to you with a bleeding bullet wound in his leg is just using it as a ruse to r@pe you as soon as you approach him to help. On that matter of yours, I have nothing to say but "seek spiritual help" lol.

I was actually jobless during that period. My budget was already tight until I found new work.
All I had to give any soul was what I had for tithe from my very last paycheck. I did as led, and I have been happy with the results of my actions since then.

My reward is my own

cheers.

2buff: if i were crawling to someone with a bleeding bullet wound in my leg is just using it as a ruse to r@pe me as soon as i approach him to help. On that matter of mine, I have nothing to say but "seek spiritual help" lol.


My reward is my own

Fhemmmy: Read my comment well, i never told you to follow no one . . . Only asking the gentleman if he is willing to do all Abran did since he is following Abram footstep as the reason why he is not paying tithe . . .

2buff: Y'all shouldn't get it twisted.
I believe in tithing, just like Jesus believed in obeying the Sabbath.
BUT, love takes prime priority. If you follow all the rules in the world, but do not show love when it is needed most and when you are [b]LED [/b]to, you're not doing it right.

I will still pay tithe, but if met with that situation again and being all I could give, I would gladly profer it to that brother/sister as led.
THIS is the truth of the reality of things, and the root of the message Jesus was trying to portray when he healed that man on the Sabbath.

If you do not feel comfortable following the lead of the Spirit, then by all means do the one you know. It also has it's own reward as well.
But I find it is these special lead actions that yield the most ridiculously pleasant results.

Don't look for excuses NOT to tithe. Don't dullen your senses to the Spirit either concerning the matter.
That is all.

Bidam: bros....there re some poor pple u give ur tithe to and they even despise u for it..why not kuku follow wat jesus told d man dat observed d commandment right frm his youth sell all ur belongins and give to d poor and come follow jesus..it is hard for a camel to pass tru d eye of a needle dan for a richman to enter d kingdom of God

Joagbaje: You're the one adding to scriptures here. God never said tithe is obsolete you are the one saying so. The abolishment of the law has nothing to do with tithe because it didnt originate in the law. It pre-existed the law.

Pastor Kun: Bros you keep making vacant claims that tithe pre existed the law, can you pls give us one single scripture that proves that God requested tithes prior to the law? And I am not talking of abraham's one off voluntary tithes, what I want is instruction from God to tithe prior to the law.

Naijastomosis: I have always had the view that tithes should not be given to the pastor alone.

You don't have to package an envelop labelled "tithes" before you qualify as paying tithes.

If you pay the school fees of some pupils or students, or help some other person in financial need, that is tithing for me.

Also, if you donate generously toward the building of a church or maintenace, you are tithing.

That is called building funds . .

2buff: I don't "well know". It just sounds to me like you find it difficult to love.

Boomark: You are actually loving your neighbour as your self. Which is one of the requirements for eternal life, Mt10:25. Don't be discouraged.

20 Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar.

For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen.

21 And he has given us this command: Anyone who loves God must also love their brother and sister.

Joagbaje: You're the one adding to scriptures here. God never said tithe is obsolete you are the one saying so. The abolishment of the law has nothing to do with tithe because it didnt originate in the law. It pre-existed the law.

Fhemmmy: I cant blv this thread is still growing . . . Lol, that is nice and i am glad to see that only matured people are on the thread, no mudslinging

Fhemmmy: Oh yes, i hate poverty and i dont want it be mentioned around it all, however, remember that God never told me to be poor, many poor people wont even make heaven . . . Lol, but jokes apart, nothing wrong in working hard to make it in life, afterall, the bible said a good man leaves inheritance for his children's children, so nothing wrong in being rich, money in the hands of a good man is a tool, but in the hands of bad people is terrible . . .
However, at the end of the day, mine is, i will pay my tithe and i will take from the rest to help the poor, cos God will stretch the remaining 90% for me to cover more.
Nothing wrong in obeying and leave the consequences for God to worry about

thelastPope: The point is Jesus lived in the old covenant, not in the new. His death and ressurection ushered in the new testament or covenant. So during His life and ministry, He observed the old covenant. He is the fufillment of the law. That is why He said, a new commandment I give unto you. He gave use the commandment of love. When he died, the veil of the temple was torn in 2, ending the levitical (Aaron's) priesthood for ever. He became our high priest and every believer in Christ is now a priest. We can all now directly offer unto God sacrifices of praise, a sweet smelling sacrifice from a holy race. We come boldly unto the throne of grace and like the priests, we can obtain mercy because of the eternal blood that was shed. A once for all sacrifice. we now live continually in His presence. This is the gospel of our salvation. Halleluiah!

Saved by grace thru faith. Not of ourselves. It is the gif of God. Not of worls, lest any man should boast. To say that God blesses you because of what you have done is to return to the law. And the problem of the law is, if you err in one, you err in all!

Goshen360: I can see you have tried so well to misguide God's people into this false teaching of title. Even the biblical tithe (crops and animals) had come to an END in the NT, NOT to mention tithing from one's "monetary" income. Telling Christians to bring 10% of their monthly income every week/month (other than them giving what God had put in their heart) as tithe is Fraud and extortion in the name of God. Also, NOT EVERYONE IN ISRAEL TITHED DURING THE TITHE OF CROPS AND ANIMALS. Jesus, the Carpenter NEVER tithed because he didn't produced tithable items. Peter, Paul and other Apostles NEVER tithe because they didn't produced tithable items. GOD NEVER DEMANDED TITHE FROM CHRISTIANS IN THE NT SIR.

@ Everyone,

[size=15pt]Hebrews 7 nullified tithing BOTH PRE-LAW AND TITHING ACCORDING TO THE LAW (i.e the biblical tithing of crops and animals), not even monetary tithing from one's income.[/size]. We can do an exposition verse by verse on Hebrews 7, it is eternally clear that even the biblical tithing (crops and animals) is GONE and NO MORE! God now demands giving which is based on Grace!

tpia@:
you cultists really need to forsake your cultism if you're pretending to be christian.

otherwise, you're fooling your own self, not God.


stop looking for excuses why you wont pay tithe- if you dont want to pay, no need to start twisting scriptures in a bid to appear sanctimonious.



1 John 4

tpia@:
you cultists really need to forsake your cultism if you're pretending to be christian.

otherwise, you're fooling your own self, not God.

stop looking for excuses why you wont pay tithe- if you dont want to pay, no need to start twisting scriptures in a bid to appear sanctimonious.

1 John 4

ATMC: bro goshen, how about u start a thread on d exposition of hebrews 7...i'm interested

Pastor Kun: Bros you keep making vacant claims that tithe pre existed the law, can you pls give us one single scripture that proves that God requested tithes prior to the law?

Joagbaje: There's no scripture where Demanded prayer either. I don't really know what you Are driving at when you talk about voluntary and compulsory. God had set spiritual laws and principles in the world . It's left for us to discover them. One thing is clear , tithing is a spiritual principle, likewise offerings, worship, prayer,Giving to the poor. God never force Anybody. If i dont give to the poor i simply miss the Benefit attached to it. If i give to the poor I should not be attacked by who doesn't give to the poor.

thelastPope: Congratulations! You just created the foundation for anybody to do what they like. From your position above, anyone can form their own doctrine and claim its a spiritual principle and claim that it works for them. There's a reason Rev 22 says you should not add or subtract from God's Word. Because of the kind of thing you just did.

[size=15pt]The written word is the logos of God. It is the only guidaince for every believer in Christ.[/size] If you do anything and claim you are walking in some kind of spiritual principle that only you can verify and authenticate, then you are way into error and spreading some doctrine of devils. Anything outside the instruction of God's Word is a lie! You cannot write your own bible and you cannot create your own rules in the kingdom of God. You follow what has been handed over to us. All scripture is given by the inspiration of God. You are way out of line there!

ATMC: bro jo i totally agree with u dt tithe came before d law [size=15pt]but do you agree with me dt abraham gave tithe out of d spoil he got from war?[/size] Also, d levites paid tithe in abraham...u know d truth, humbly return to it

Goshen360: At your honour my dearest sister, I will start the exposition on Hebrews chapter 7.

Goshen360: At your honour my dearest sister, I will start the exposition on Hebrews chapter 7.

joe4christ: And what would you call that? The spoil was his immidiate income at that moment, tithing is paying 10% of your immidiate earnings in terms of income or you might tag it as profit and not your total savings, it's just the 10% out of your immidiate profits for business men and women and 10% of your salary or wages as a income earner.
Abraham was a man of wisdom, he gave tithe even before the law, so much that even apostle paul made effancies on him and his act of tithing, what a blessed man indeed,
remember also that the person he gave his tithe was a priest called melchizadek (cant remember the spelling now) he was said to be a priest without beginning or end, he was said not have died, he was said to be in the rank order of christ Jesus, does'nt that sound like a mystery to you all, well let me not go further less i confuse you the more, melchizedek lived on, cos he never died, and being a priest forver means he's still a priest, so is there gonna be a priest other than christ who also would live as a priest forever other than christ?
Now u see how coded the logo is without the rhema, if the spirit of God does not interprete this to you u then u might just end up wallowing is the dark.
Learn to study the scriptures prayerfully, depending totally on the holy spirit for interpretation, he wont lead you astray...

thelastPope: The point is Jesus lived in the old covenant, not in the new. His death and ressurection ushered in the new testament or covenant. So during His life and ministry, He observed the old covenant. He is the fufillment of the law. That is why He said, a new commandment I give unto you. He gave use the commandment of love. When he died, the veil of the temple was torn in 2, ending the levitical (Aaron's) priesthood for ever. He became our high priest and every believer in Christ is now a priest. We can all now directly offer unto God sacrifices of praise, a sweet smelling sacrifice from a holy race. We come boldly unto the throne of grace and like the priests, we can obtain mercy because of the eternal blood that was shed. A once for all sacrifice. we now live continually in His presence. This is the gospel of our salvation. Halleluiah!

Saved by grace thru faith. Not of ourselves. It is the gif of God. Not of worls, lest any man should boast. To say that God blesses you because of what you have done is to return to the law. And the problem of the law is, if you err in one, you err in all!