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Re: Why Do Sinners Immediately Go To Hell, But Satan And Demons Are Not There Yet ? by truthislight: 8:36pm On Feb 23, 2013
frank3.16:


No Mr.Damex, I am not an atheist, I am just a very very very confused christian. Nobody seem to have answers to my questions, its very frustrating.

cool

Damex333: wat ase those questions. Mayb u might find someone that will give u some answers.

cool
Re: Why Do Sinners Immediately Go To Hell, But Satan And Demons Are Not There Yet ? by truthislight: 11:00pm On Feb 23, 2013
omonna78:
Well, let's start with the ones already raised on this thread; the ones in which multiple answers are given by multiple Christians. From this thread, it is manifest that Christians have a monopoly on confusion.

read this:
https://www.nairaland.com/1145151/thirty-questions-teachers-eternal-torment#13587208
Re: Why Do Sinners Immediately Go To Hell, But Satan And Demons Are Not There Yet ? by Nobody: 1:08am On Feb 24, 2013
One question, one bible, different opinions, all subjective. Isn't that funny?
Re: Why Do Sinners Immediately Go To Hell, But Satan And Demons Are Not There Yet ? by Unluvable(f): 11:57am On Feb 24, 2013
Please I need to add one question; on which 'day' of creation was hell as a place created? Or was it created after God completed his creations

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Re: Why Do Sinners Immediately Go To Hell, But Satan And Demons Are Not There Yet ? by Nobody: 6:06pm On Feb 24, 2013
Unluvable*:
Please I need to add one question; on which 'day' of creation was hell as a place created? Or was it created after God completed his creations
hell fire is a myth used to scare people

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Re: Why Do Sinners Immediately Go To Hell, But Satan And Demons Are Not There Yet ? by Nobody: 12:32pm On Jul 05, 2013
cool

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Re: Why Do Sinners Immediately Go To Hell, But Satan And Demons Are Not There Yet ? by truthislight: 1:35pm On Jul 05, 2013
frosbel: cool

Very Good question!

Why ?

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Re: Why Do Sinners Immediately Go To Hell, But Satan And Demons Are Not There Yet ? by Nobody: 1:52pm On Jul 05, 2013
truthislight:

Very Good question!

Why ?

Because no one goes there now , and there is no one there now .

grin
Re: Why Do Sinners Immediately Go To Hell, But Satan And Demons Are Not There Yet ? by truthislight: 6:00pm On Jul 05, 2013
frosbel:

Because no one goes there now , and there is no one there now .

grin

Ah!

What about "lazarus and the rich man" ? cheesy
Re: Why Do Sinners Immediately Go To Hell, But Satan And Demons Are Not There Yet ? by shdemidemi(m): 6:09pm On Jul 05, 2013
Rev 20

11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.]
Re: Why Do Sinners Immediately Go To Hell, But Satan And Demons Are Not There Yet ? by noblefada: 11:23pm On Jul 05, 2013
Unluvable*:
Please I need to add one question; on which 'day' of creation was hell as a place created? Or was it created after God completed his creations

Pls you've specify if u are talking about hell fire or hell. Hell is a place of the dead sometimes called hades or Seoul. Hell or hell fire was not created on any day of creation because all of what God created was good. Gen 2:1-7.
Hell is different from hell fire as earlier stated and the devil is not in hell or hell fire, he has never been there.

Now to the OP, the devil is not in hell because the authority he collected from Adam was a lease for a period of time and the time is not over yet but almost about to. So the devil is currently some where on this earth n why men go to hell immediately is simply because God prepared a redemptive plan for man but not for satan n his fallen angels. Jesus is the only plan for the salvation of man! believe & receive him today because you've an opportunity to save your soul. Shalom
Re: Why Do Sinners Immediately Go To Hell, But Satan And Demons Are Not There Yet ? by Nobody: 11:29pm On Jul 05, 2013
noblefada:

Now to the OP, the devil is not in hell because the authority he collected from Adam was a lease for a period of time and the time is not over yet but almost about to. So the devil is currently some where on this earth n why men go to hell immediately is simply because God prepared a redemptive plan for man but not for satan n his fallen angels. Jesus is the only plan for the salvation of man! believe & receive him today because you've an opportunity to save your soul. Shalom

Wrong.

If HELL was created for the devil and his angels , I am sure he will be the first to taste of it's horrors.

"And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever." - Rev 20:10

And the sinners who aligned themselves with the devil are cast into this same lake of fire in Rev 20:14 , not before.
Re: Why Do Sinners Immediately Go To Hell, But Satan And Demons Are Not There Yet ? by shdemidemi(m): 7:28am On Jul 06, 2013
frosbel:

Wrong.

If HELL was created for the devil and his angels , I am sure he will be the first to taste of it's horrors.

"And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever." - Rev 20:10

And the sinners who aligned themselves with the devil are cast into this same lake of fire in Rev 20:14 , not before.


I thought your stand has always been that there is no everlasting torment for the unrighteous.
Re: Why Do Sinners Immediately Go To Hell, But Satan And Demons Are Not There Yet ? by seeker(m): 7:42am On Jul 06, 2013
noblefada:

Pls you've specify if u are talking about hell fire or hell. Hell is a place of the dead sometimes called hades or Seoul. Hell or hell fire was not created on any day of creation because all of what God created was good. Gen 2:1-7.
Hell is different from hell fire as earlier stated and the devil is not in hell or hell fire, he has never been there.

Now to the OP, the devil is not in hell because the authority he collected from Adam was a lease for a period of time and the time is not over yet but almost about to. So the devil is currently some where on this earth n why men go to hell immediately is simply because God prepared a redemptive plan for man but not for satan n his fallen angels. Jesus is the only plan for the salvation of man! believe & receive him today because you've an opportunity to save your soul. Shalom

Here I was thinking that Seoul is the capital of South Korea. Fascinating!

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Re: Why Do Sinners Immediately Go To Hell, But Satan And Demons Are Not There Yet ? by Unluvable(f): 9:04am On Jul 06, 2013
noblefada:

Pls you've specify if u are talking about hell fire or hell. Hell is a place of the dead sometimes called hades or Seoul. Hell or hell fire was not created on any day of creation because all of what God created was good. Gen 2:1-7.
Hell is different from hell fire as earlier stated and the devil is not in hell or hell fire, he has never been there.

Now to the OP, the devil is not in hell because the authority he collected from Adam was a lease for a period of time and the time is not over yet but almost about to. So the devil is currently some where on this earth n why men go to hell immediately is simply because God prepared a redemptive plan for man but not for satan n his fallen angels. Jesus is the only plan for the salvation of man! believe & receive him today because you've an opportunity to save your soul. Shalom

I'm talking of hell fire
Re: Why Do Sinners Immediately Go To Hell, But Satan And Demons Are Not There Yet ? by noblefada: 9:12pm On Jul 06, 2013
Unluvable*:


I'm talking of hell fire
Hell fire or lake of fire was not created during the genesis 1 account. Hell as we know it today is Hades which is the place of the dead it is different from the lake of fire which is being prepared for satan, his fallen angels & any1 who refuses Christ salvation. Before Christ anyone that died ended up in Hell. Adam, Abraham, David, Elijah all went to Hell when they died, but the difference is as recorded in the Luke 16 account was that they were in Abraham's bosom because they believe and had hope in the redemptive work of Jesus. But now they are no longer there but in heaven.
By the story of Lazarus was not a parable
Re: Why Do Sinners Immediately Go To Hell, But Satan And Demons Are Not There Yet ? by holypower(m): 2:08am On Jul 07, 2013

answerThe answer is that satan wasn't sent to hell immediately but hell was prepared for him to be there forever. Satan was cast down to the earth but because he doesnt want only him to be perish in hell, he now started destroying people's esp. sinners soul and casting them to hell because they cant go to Heaven for no iniquity shall enter into the kingdom of GOD
this is it
Re: Why Do Sinners Immediately Go To Hell, But Satan And Demons Are Not There Yet ? by Unluvable(f): 6:25am On Jul 07, 2013
noblefada:
Hell fire or lake of fire was not created during the genesis 1 account. Hell as we know it today is Hades which is the place of the dead it is different from the lake of fire which is being prepared for satan, his fallen angels & any1 who refuses Christ salvation. Before Christ anyone that died ended up in Hell. Adam, Abraham, David, Elijah all went to Hell when they died, but the difference is as recorded in the Luke 16 account was that they were in Abraham's bosom because they believe and had hope in the redemptive work of Jesus. But now they are no longer there but in heaven.
By the story of Lazarus was not a parable

When exactly was it prepared is the question??
Re: Why Do Sinners Immediately Go To Hell, But Satan And Demons Are Not There Yet ? by noblefada: 5:17pm On Jul 07, 2013
Unluvable*:


When exactly was it prepared is the question??

It was prepared after the fall. Notice it did not say created.
Re: Why Do Sinners Immediately Go To Hell, But Satan And Demons Are Not There Yet ? by SalC: 7:20pm On Jul 07, 2013
seeker:

Here I was thinking that Seoul is the capital of South Korea. Fascinating!
Perhaps that was a typographic error, it is actually Shoel and not seoul.
Re: Why Do Sinners Immediately Go To Hell, But Satan And Demons Are Not There Yet ? by Nobody: 7:57pm On Jul 07, 2013
holypower:
answerThe answer is that satan wasn't sent to hell immediately but hell was prepared for him to be there forever. Satan was cast down to the earth but because he doesnt want only him to be perish in hell, he now started destroying people's esp. sinners soul and casting them to hell because they cant go to Heaven for no iniquity shall enter into the kingdom of GOD
this is it

Nonsense.

No one is in HELL because HELL aka the lake of fire is a future event.

Read Revelation 20:10 and Revelation 20:14.
Re: Why Do Sinners Immediately Go To Hell, But Satan And Demons Are Not There Yet ? by noblefada: 10:07am On Jul 08, 2013
frosbel:

Nonsense.

No one is in HELL because HELL aka the lake of fire is a future event.

Read Revelation 20:10 and Revelation 20:14.


very true @frosbel no one is in the lake of fire presently but all those who died n did not believe in Jesus Christ are presently in hades until the end of time.

@Sal C tanx so much for d correction.
Re: Why Do Sinners Immediately Go To Hell, But Satan And Demons Are Not There Yet ? by timothycel(m): 9:39pm On Jul 10, 2013
There is a place called hades where people who will die a second death are waiting for final judgement. Paradise is where people who will awake to eternal life are waiting for the final judgement.

When Gods plan has been fulfilled then death, hades (and its contents), satan etc will all be thrown in a lake of fire.

So currently these people are seperated by a divide but are in the same place, you could imagine it as to towns in the same city but everybody must remain in their own town. Luke 16:19

There will also be a new heaven and a new earth etc....
Re: Why Do Sinners Immediately Go To Hell, But Satan And Demons Are Not There Yet ? by fem474: 4:26pm On Jul 21, 2013
Sinners dat die are in hell right now but those dat died in christ are under d bossom of abraham
Re: Why Do Sinners Immediately Go To Hell, But Satan And Demons Are Not There Yet ? by Nobody: 4:30pm On Jul 21, 2013
fem474: Sinners dat die are in hell right now but those dat died in christ are under d bossom of abraham

what about sinners who died before Abraham , where are they ?

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Re: Why Do Sinners Immediately Go To Hell, But Satan And Demons Are Not There Yet ? by timothycel(m): 10:28pm On Jul 21, 2013
Hi @ Frosbel

Sin began from the time of Adam, all those people are either in Paradise or Hades awaiting final judgement.

This doesnt mean that the people who were wicked and lived before the time of Christ will be automatically forgiven.

Those people who were lawlessness will be judged by it (ie societal norms, natural law etc at whichever particular period). Those people who lived by law in the first generation (Prior to the Flood in Noahs time) will be judged by that law.

Just to provide clarity, Gods Law didnt start with Moses. God had decreed laws before then.

Matthew 27:51-53 "51 At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook, the rocks split 52 and the tombs broke open. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. 53 They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection and went into the holy city and appeared to many people."

Many people who died before the time of Jesus who were Holy rose from their tombs when Jesus died. (Emphasis on HOLY). What happened to the wicked?

1 Peter 3:19&20 "19 After being made alive, he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits— 20 to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built."

So all people have to hear the Gospel of Christ and believe and repent of their sins. Not all people who lived before the time Jesus were saved, only those that repented and whose souls were baptised in the Spirit. (The soul is baptised, not the flesh). Baptism being the mark of the Mark or Seal of the New Covenant. Your physical body will have not a mark (Old Covenant marked the body via circumcision) but your soul will have a mark (Your soul or if you prefer the second you Paul talks about in 1 Corinthians 15). After all is it not the soul that needs the mark or seal of the New Covenant to enter Paradise?

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Re: Why Do Sinners Immediately Go To Hell, But Satan And Demons Are Not There Yet ? by cola223: 6:39pm On Jul 23, 2013
Luke 16 vs19 “There was once a rich man who dressed in the most expensive clothes and lived in great luxury every day. 20 There was also a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, who used to be brought to the rich man's door, 21 hoping to eat the bits of food that fell from the rich man's table. Even the dogs would come and lick his sores. 22 The poor man died and was carried by the angels to sit beside Abraham at the feast in heaven. The rich man died and was buried, 23 and in Hades, where he was in great pain, he looked up and saw Abraham, far away, with Lazarus at his side. 24 So he called out, ‘Father Abraham! Take pity on me, and send Lazarus to dip his finger in some water and cool off my tongue, because I am in great pain in this fire!’ 25 But Abraham said, ‘Remember, my son, that in your lifetime you were given all the good things, while Lazarus got all the bad things. But now he is enjoying himself here, while you are in pain. 26 Besides all that, there is a deep pit lying between us, so that those who want to cross over from here to you cannot do so, nor can anyone cross over to us from where you are.’
Re: Why Do Sinners Immediately Go To Hell, But Satan And Demons Are Not There Yet ? by truthman2012(m): 8:49pm On Jul 24, 2013
Unluvable*:
Please I need to add one question; on which 'day' of creation was hell as a place created? Or was it created after God completed his creations

What the bible tells us is when those things we can see were created.

No account of how the invisibles were created, incuding hell.
Re: Why Do Sinners Immediately Go To Hell, But Satan And Demons Are Not There Yet ? by truthman2012(m): 8:58pm On Jul 24, 2013
The time for Satan and his demons is not up yet according to God's plan.

The time for any human is up at death and that is why he goes to hell (if a sinner) before Satan.

Jesus told the thief on the cross: ''today you will meet me in paradise''. If the just go to bliss at death, the unjust will surely go to torment at death.
Re: Why Do Sinners Immediately Go To Hell, But Satan And Demons Are Not There Yet ? by CANTICLES: 10:02am On Oct 30, 2014
The hellfire empire is a total myth !!! infact 'the idea of roasting and tormenting his own creatures in a fiery fire NEVA Comes to God's Heart' Jer 7:31 ..... Check dis fact again Jer 19:5 , Finally Sealed in Jer 32:35 #fact#

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Re: Why Do Sinners Immediately Go To Hell, But Satan And Demons Are Not There Yet ? by kevoh(m): 1:23pm On Oct 30, 2014
Chei, See simple question! See plenty plenty confusing holy spirit inspired answers from Christians ! grin grin grin grin

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