teeo: Keep wasting ur time speaking gibberish. Tithe paying is scriptural case closed

flairlady: is it scriptural to give an offering to connect with a prophesy?the bigger the amount,the stronger the connection?

flairlady: is it scriptural to give an offering to connect with a prophesy?the bigger the amount,the stronger the connection?

Pastor Kun:

If it is not very obvious to you from what i have posted, then i am sorry i can't help you as your case may be beyond redemption however for the benefit of others, oyedepo for instance preaches the false prsoperity gospel. He preaches religion as a way to become rich. However this is contrary to scriptures as clearly stated in 1 timothy 6:5 which i qouted ealier. Secondly are you denying the fact that both oyedepo and oyaks come up with different stories and scams to extort money from their followers contrary to what is in the scriptures?

ogoamaka99:
@ pastor kun,
I am really sorry, your major problem is mind set, you have a mind set against the two men. You quoted some verses of scriptures but FAIL to explain how the verses are related to the ministry of the two men. All you said are your personal opinion and these opinion are FALSE does not hold water AND INSIGNIFICANT. You are hurting yourself thinking you are hurting Oyedepo. It is foolishness to think that you will bring down a concrete wall with your bare foot.

Millions of men and women whose lives had been touched and transformed will look at your opinion as nonsense. I will say that the reason why you have the negative opinion about MOG especially Oyedepo and pastor Chris is because you are operating in a natural rheme. 1Cor 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1Cor 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
1Cor 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

Pastor Kun:

You are entitled to your deluded opinion, fact remains the bible has already condemned your idols and other religious merchants like them.

Pastor Kun:

You are entitled to your deluded opinion, fact remains the bible has already condemned your idols and other religious merchants like them.

truthislight:

i think you have made your case here.

The fact that nuclear boy identify Ugoamaka as a woman but she has an ID that says male shows that she is a fraud.

Pastor Kun:

You are entitled to your deluded opinion, fact remains the bible has already condemned your idols and other religious merchants like them.

Gracious10:

You must reall be pissed to have posted multiple times.

I don't know where this argument started, am not here to change your mind cos I was that Myopic until I knew better.

All I get from your writeup is immense anger that these men of God are rich. I would also like to draw your attention to the fact that MOG are not mapped out for the poverty mission.
For the fact that you are a Christian doesn't make u poor.

You sound like you would have believed them better if they were poor and never preached prosperity. I still don't know when that part became a taboo for Christian/MOG.

I would also draw your attention to the fact that these men are BIz owners with divers well profiting businesses apart from the congregation they pastor.

Also the issue of tithing that you are crying about is biblical and I for one is reaping from obeying just that single principle! I knew what my Thomas of a life was before I saw better. Malachi 3:8-10. I was a rebel for all who paid tithe and the hatred you have for this issue wasn't more than mine.

Again because you read and interpret bible differently doesn't make the word of God lies. Heb 7:5. tithes are for priests and if a single MOG has more than enough members which means he is touching lives and people are paying attention to him. So he gets more tithe. Know it also that there are pastors who have been in ministry for years yet they still struggling with 20 members. Some also get into where they are not called cos the call of God comes with specific gifts, some can pray for healing while others deliverance.
The person with gift for deliverance cannot take the place.of that for healing. If Oyedepo mandate is prosperity, then that's what is it and as you have observed no pastor has beaten him to it. Those who ridiculed him are beginning to add that teaching to their messages. No Christian is meant to be poor. Christ died that I may have life and have it abundantly and prosperity is definitely included.

Also if these things were not working for individuals in his congregation, they wouldn't heed his teachings neither are they being forced to give. Know also all these things are done in faith, if one person makes a seed offering with faith, receives their healing and the other doesn't, whose fault do you think it is? ( I have personally asked a MOG to give me back my seed offering cos what I prayed for didnt happen) but you know, the bible says my people perish cos of lack of knowledge. I had thought because I gave all that money, there should be answers but God is not mocked, whatever u sow you reap! If you sow faithlessness, you reap unanswered prayers.

If you feel everyone of us is deluded then you got more work on your hands. While you are busy trying to cure our deluded minds, we are busy basking in the promises of Christ.

Logicboy03:

Yes, she committed fraud on her profile page. Would she try that on her CV?


The profile page is meaningless and so, we overlook it but a CV has consequences.

Prophesying as a preacher also has consequences. If god is guiding your prophecy, it shouldnt be wrong or else god is false

truthislight:

i think you have made your case here.

The fact that nuclear boy identify Ugoamaka as a woman but she has an ID that says male shows that she is a fraud.

Gracious10:

You must reall be pissed to have posted multiple times.

I don't know where this argument started, am not here to change your mind cos I was that Myopic until I knew better.

All I get from your writeup is immense anger that these men of God are rich. I would also like to draw your attention to the fact that MOG are not mapped out for the poverty mission.
For the fact that you are a Christian doesn't make u poor.

You sound like you would have believed them better if they were poor and never preached prosperity. I still don't know when that part became a taboo for Christian/MOG.

I would also draw your attention to the fact that these men are BIz owners with divers well profiting businesses apart from the congregation they pastor.

Also the issue of tithing that you are crying about is biblical and I for one is reaping from obeying just that single principle! I knew what my Thomas of a life was before I saw better. Malachi 3:8-10. I was a rebel for all who paid tithe and the hatred you have for this issue wasn't more than mine.

Again because you read and interpret bible differently doesn't make the word of God lies. Heb 7:5. tithes are for priests and if a single MOG has more than enough members which means he is touching lives and people are paying attention to him. So he gets more tithe. Know it also that there are pastors who have been in ministry for years yet they still struggling with 20 members. Some also get into where they are not called cos the call of God comes with specific gifts, some can pray for healing while others deliverance.
The person with gift for deliverance cannot take the place.of that for healing. If Oyedepo mandate is prosperity, then that's what is it and as you have observed no pastor has beaten him to it. Those who ridiculed him are beginning to add that teaching to their messages. No Christian is meant to be poor. Christ died that I may have life and have it abundantly and prosperity is definitely included.

Also if these things were not working for individuals in his congregation, they wouldn't heed his teachings neither are they being forced to give. Know also all these things are done in faith, if one person makes a seed offering with faith, receives their healing and the other doesn't, whose fault do you think it is? ( I have personally asked a MOG to give me back my seed offering cos what I prayed for didnt happen) but you know, the bible says my people perish cos of lack of knowledge. I had thought because I gave all that money, there should be answers but God is not mocked, whatever u sow you reap! If you sow faithlessness, you reap unanswered prayers.

If you feel everyone of us is deluded then you got more work on your hands. While you are busy trying to cure our deluded minds, we are busy basking in the promises of Christ.

teeo: SMH, now we are not under the law as regards tithe. Then we shouldnt be under the 10commandments anymore. All we have to do is just love God and our neighbours simple. Thats how ur theology imply

ogoamaka99:

@logicBOY AND truth is light,
Please this discussion here are for matured men and not for KIDS(SMALL BOYS). When MEN are talking you have to keep quit. It is what i call your BOYISH ATTITUDE that make you KIDS to interrupt men when they are arguing by introducing irrelevances in a thread. BOY OH BOYS learn not to interrupt men when they are talking, it is a bad attitude.

Gracious10:
Also if these things were not working for individuals in his congregation, they wouldn't heed his teachings neither are they being forced to give.

Pastor Kun: For those who insist on keeping the tithe ordinance or other parts of the law.

Galatians 3:10-11


10 For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.” 11 Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith.”

Galatians 5:4

4 You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.

ogoamaka99:
@ pastor kun,
See how you are exhibiting your ignorance of the scripture contradicting and condemning yourself. The scripture is not complete without the old testament and going by your presenting above, obeying instruction from the old testament is obeying the law and is under condemnation.

You see, you are the one living under the curse going by the verse you quoted above Gal 3:10b "for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them." So when you refuse to obey the instruction of the scripture you are under a curse.