Richtalk: Femi Fani-Kayode is not OBJ's spokesman. The moderator should please change the topic as Femi's views.
Femi was OBJ's ex-spokesman, so whatever he is saying now should be quoted as his own view.
I believe OBJ is more matured than this, he won't respond to a sitting president like that, even if he has a different opinion.

GARRI (x7):
The Collateral damage from both the Odi and Zaki Biam operations were unacceptably high. Killing unarmed civilians just to make statement is unacceptable..

Fani-Kayode should have commented on the number of innocent men, women and children who lost their lives in both operations.

I agree with GEJ on this one...

ODI was a failure!!!

ocelot2006: I'm afraid I'm with OBJ on this one, particularly on the 72nd Airborne Battalion's Ops in Zaki Biam. The murder....scratch that, slaughter of those 19 soldiers by Tiv villagers was one of the most savage and brutal cases I've ever come across. You only had to see the pics on TELL magazine to fully understand why the presidency and DHQ reacted the way they did. All 19 peacekeepers were slaughtered like goats in front of the camera, with the whole village celebrating. Do you really think the president would just sit back and watch?

engrfcuksmtin: And where is the sharia today? The notherners did not kill security personnels then. The unrest in the north had been since before OBJ remmember the Kano riot but terrorism is new in Nigeria and it was introduced by Niger Deltans.

dayokanu: Retardeen Jonathan exposed for his cluelessness again,

Instead of taking decisive actions against Boko Haram terrorist he is asking us to Pray and handle them with Kids gloves

Maybe Obama had a reason for not negotiating with terrorists afterall

CyberG:

Your moniker alone speaks for the odious stupidi.ty that oozes from your maggoty orifice! So, it is okay for criminals to kill several soldiers and police, who have wives, children and family but when the government responds with force, it is wrong? Is the life of the ones killed by the criminals > soldiers and police? BH kills several civilians in the most violent way but that is not too much of a crime but when the soldiers respond with more violent killings, somehow they are guilty for killing the families of the BHaramites?

talktimi: Another fool on nairaland. If you should meet GEJ today, will you insut him or seek for his favor ? Its your parents I blame sha for your stupidity. Onto the topic, to crush a few militants, the military set up their heavy artillery at Mbiama a border town btw Rivers and Bayelsa states and shelled Odi community killing hundreds of innocent men, women and children and levelling an entire community. The so called "terrorist" leader who killed those officers died about two years ago so you know its mostly innocent people who died. If GEJ or any other president should try this same tactic in any of the boko haram states I tell you this country will be brought to its knees with another civil war. How will you feel if the military should shell your village ? I guess you will never understand what military occupation feels like ao you run your mouth like a generator.

Demdem:

Agreed. am never in support of the killing of the innocent however i agree with OBJ that after this invasion such an occurrence against security agents, such events went down drastically unfortunately
The retardeen is just being sttupid, i expect him then to withdraw military forces from borno and troubled places if he thinks military solution isnt it.
By the way, its the Retardeen aware that his current security forces are being accused of killing the innocent in their war against evil Boko?

Billyonaire: .......The question we should ask is; Were old men, women and children actually killed ?

Demdem:

Before the offensive, President Obasanjo asked the then Governor and inhabitants to fish out those responsible but he claimed he cant and the inhabitants refused to hand them over. Its unfortunate to note that peeps like u knew who were responsible for the killing of innocent policemen and soldiers and refused to fish them out when asked to do so. may the blood of the subsequent dead forever hunt u to ur grave.

By the way the military is currently killing the innocent in the north as we speak and there is no civil war till date. Ur fears are unfounded.

GARRI (x7):


Their inability to fish out the killers isn't a Good enough reason for the killing and maiming of hundreds of souls.

I agree with u completely. However the people themselves who decided to habour these murderers also have to be blamed. Also note that one of the reasons why peeps especially from the south here likes the military operation going up north is because they believe the people there harbour evil boko.


OBJ had all security forces under his control so he should have directed them to fish out the killers instead of ordering the massacre of the village...

We all know that the right thing is for our security men to gather intelligence and surgically fish out these perpetrators however the Nigerian military isnt configured for such unfortunately. Am sure they were directed to fish out the murderers but on getting there they decided to burn down the whole town. The same happened in zaki biam and OBJ had to apologised.
By the way, innocent killings of the innocent is currently going on in the north. This is the hallmark of the Nigerian Military.

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[quote author=Demdem]

Agreed. am never in support of the killing of the innocent however i agree with OBJ that after this invasion such an occurrence against security agents, such events went down drastically unfortunately

Demdem:

[b] Its unfortunate to note that peeps like u knew who were responsible for the killing of innocent policemen and soldiers and refused to fish them out when asked to do so. may the blood of the subsequent dead forever hunt u to ur grave.

Demdem:

Before the offensive, President Obasanjo asked the then Governor and inhabitants to fish out those responsible but he claimed he cant and the inhabitants refused to hand them over. Its unfortunate to note that peeps like u knew who were responsible for the killing of innocent policemen and soldiers and refused to fish them out when asked to do so. may the blood of the subsequent dead forever hunt u to ur grave.

By the way the military is currently killing the innocent in the north as we speak and there is no civil war till date. Ur fears are unfounded.

kettykin: Hypocrisy of the highest magnitude being displayed with reckless abandon , OBJ sent soldiers to Odi and the victims were old women , old men and innocent children . He again sent soldiers to zaki bbiam and the victims were innocent young men who were invited by the soldiers to come for a peace meeting in the village square . Yet when OPC killed policemen in Lagos and ogun state OBJ again displayed his real color of selective justice preferring to arrest Gani Adams only to release him before elections . When the Sam OBJ was in power and their was sharia crisis all over the north west , he preferred to call it a political sharia which will go away with time even when innocent Nigerians where been killed by fanatical mobs OBJ did not intervene with soldiers preferring to call south east governors who who were calling for confederation mischievous . Who is really deceiving who?
If there is trouble in Kano or Borno he says it is political sharia and when the Sam thing happens in plateau he declares state of Emergency . Useless Antichrist who has success in his 8 years reign is to sleep with his daughter in law and to crown it all ended up making his son a divorcee

Maxymilliano:

Sorry bro but can you help refresh my memory here, was the culprits fished out after the invasion of Odi and Zaki biam by military occupations?

I never said they were fished out. What i said was after the massacre such events (large scale killing of policemen and military officers) in those localities didnt happened again. Unfortunately, avoidable innocent lives were lost when it would have been easy for the people to have surrendered those murderers.

talktimi:
The so called "terrorist" leader who killed those officers died about two years ago so you know its mostly innocent people who died.

By the way, the instructions from their C-IN-C was to fish out those murderers however they werent successful in doing that and they decided to raze down the whole town unfortunately


Were JTF members not also been attacked and killed in the north and will you have recommended such decisive actions as directed by Obasanjo as the panacea to quell the boko haram insurrection?

Both Evil Boko and JTF are currently killing in the North as we speak. Retardeen asked them only to fish out evil Boko but in acheiving this task of theirs, the innocent is being caught in between.
Get it straight again. OBJ never ordered that the military should go down to ODI and kill the innocent just like retardeen never asked JTF to kill the innocent currently however since our military cant surgically remove the weed from the plant, they will prefer to burn the whole plantation unfortunately.

size38: My question is, if Obasanjo happens to be in power in this time of Boko Haram,would he has wiped out the entire north east in the name of fighting Boko Haram?

Demdem:

Agreed. am never in support of the killing of the innocent however i agree with OBJ that after this invasion such an occurrence against security agents, such events went down drastically unfortunately
The retardeen is just being sttupid, i expect him then to withdraw military forces from borno and troubled places if he thinks military solution isnt it.
By the way, its the Retardeen aware that his current security forces are being accused of killing the innocent in their war against evil Boko?

Maxymilliano:

May be I need to let you know that JTF was drafted in to quell the insurgency in some of the northern States, just like their services was deployed to the niger delta region in the heat of the militancy.

And how is this different from my opinion and what i stated? Be it Evil Boko or Cop killers, all are murderers and a revolt to the govt of the day.

The few civilian casualties in the north were caught in the crossfire between boko and JTF but in the case Odi and Zaki Ibiam, a WHOLE community was razed and the inhabitants decimated...

Be it one life or hundred lives, none is justifiable. Thats a fact. Again i state that OBJ didnt ask his men to go to those towns and raze them down but to fish out the criminals which they didnt do at the end.

Is this the same scenario you are trying hard to rationalize

If stating it as it is is what u termed rationlizing then i have no apology for that. Kindly go through my earlier posts and fully understand my position.

drnoel:
Maybe you are right but also remember where a OBJ failed badly GEJ excelled with honours.

mosun_ade:

I wonder what you will say if someone tells you your father is being sttupid. And I think we are right to say here that your parents are plain sttupid for not giving you proper home training on public discourse.