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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mpeace(m): 7:12am On Oct 16, 2018
swilo:

Sir OGG,

I have some questions, I have asked before but didn't get practical response:

1. will the OS double?
2. will the PE remain the same?
3. if question 1 is yes, is N3.40 FP with respect to the N1.85 post bonus issue?
4. if it were a stock split, how would it be different from this?
5. Lastly, why give dividend if the bonus is suppose to be an added advantage?

Please, use this CUTIX as a direct reference so it will be clear to me.
It will soon fall. It is just experiencing what glaxo experienced when it declared bumper dividend and jumped to 32, now it sits comfortably at 14. To me, in this bearish market and with the bonus shares, cutix should be selling at 1.3 or less. If market were to be bullish, then I would say 2.3 fair value.
Disclaimer: I am just a student. Chorus answer na him I give. Make the teachers correct us.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ndidigood(f): 7:14am On Oct 16, 2018
[quote author=ndidigood post=72127180][/quote]
U assumed something is wrong with cutix,u don't know this coy
I bet,u will be proved 100% wrong..

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ndidigood(f): 7:15am On Oct 16, 2018
[quote author=ndidigood post=72127180][/quote]
U assumed something is wrong with cutix,?
u don't know this coy
I bet,u will be proved 100% wrong..
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Chibuking81(m): 7:19am On Oct 16, 2018
swilo:

Sir OGG,

I have some questions, I have asked before but didn't get practical response:

1. will the OS double?
2. will the PE remain the same?
3. if question 1 is yes, is N3.40 FP with respect to the N1.85 post bonus issue?
4. if it were a stock split, how would it be different from this?
5. Lastly, why give dividend if the bonus is suppose to be an added advantage?

Please, use this CUTIX as a direct reference so it will be clear to me.
Soon it will go down to #1, they intentionally pump it to #4, in order to divide it into two, by giving 1 for 1 bonus.
Cutix always like their stock price to hover around #2, both during the bull and bear. It will go down to #1 even below, watch and see. Notwithstanding they always maintain good result.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by veecovee: 8:14am On Oct 16, 2018
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by arduino: 8:19am On Oct 16, 2018
Chibuking81:

Soon it will go down to #1, they intentionally pump it to #4, in order to divide it into two, by giving 1 for 1 bonus.
Cutix always like their stock price to hover around #2, both during the bull and bear. It will go down to #1 even below, watch and see. Notwithstanding they always maintain good result.
Is this a fact or just some random tumbum-tumbum assumption
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by DeRuggedProf: 8:20am On Oct 16, 2018
Chibuking81:

Soon it will go down to #1, they intentionally pump it to #4, in order to divide it into two, by giving 1 for 1 bonus.
Cutix always like their stock price to hover around #2, both during the bull and bear. It will go down to #1 even below, watch and see. Notwithstanding they always maintain good result.

Why pour sand for other people's gari? grin. Though I believe the price will moderate once the bonus shares become tradeable.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by austinkenneth: 8:28am On Oct 16, 2018
After recording a 50% gain in Union Dac. You guys have moved over to Cutix to scalp out gains.

I pity those wey dey follow una wey no no when to take off.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by kolaish(m): 8:50am On Oct 16, 2018
swilo:

Sir OGG,

I have some questions, I have asked before but didn't get practical response:

1. will the OS double?
2. will the PE remain the same?
3. if question 1 is yes, is N3.40 FP with respect to the N1.85 post bonus issue?
4. if it were a stock split, how would it be different from this?
5. Lastly, why give dividend if the bonus is suppose to be an added advantage?

Please, use this CUTIX as a direct reference so it will be clear to me.

1. Yes. Cutix OS will move from 880m units to 1.76b units (x 2)
2. The PE cannot remain the same again because the EPS will now be divided by the new OS.
3. To me, the fair price now should be hovering around 170k until the company releases the Q1 which will determine its present value (This is @currentprice area of specialization)
5. The management thought that the company is a bit bouyant to give both dividend and bonus. Subsequent release of quarterly result will determine if the management is right or wrong.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mpeace(m): 8:50am On Oct 16, 2018
arduino:

Is this a fact or just some random tumbum-tumbum assumption
grin grin cheesy grin
What are you trying to say? That our own Prof Prophet uses tumbum tumbum methods?
Bia nwanne you beta not expose embarrass any prof here o.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by arduino: 8:56am On Oct 16, 2018
Mpeace:
grin grin cheesy grin
What are you trying to say? That our own Prof Prophet uses tumbum tumbum methods?
Bia nwanne you beta not expose embarrass any prof here o.
I have not exposed and don't intend to embarrass our erudite prof.....I just wan make sure say prof never use sapele water dirty him eyes this morning before posting grin

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by onegentleguy: 9:39am On Oct 16, 2018
swilo:

Sir OGG,

I have some questions, I have asked before but didn't get practical response:

1. will the OS double?
2. will the PE remain the same?
3. if question 1 is yes, is N3.40 FP with respect to the N1.85 post bonus issue?
4. if it were a stock split, how would it be different from this?
5. Lastly, why give dividend if the bonus is suppose to be an added advantage?

Please, use this CUTIX as a direct reference so it will be clear to me.

First, I would have to condense ur 1st 3 questions into 1 and if that is done, then those 3 can best be put out as;
What impact will the expected dilution from the bonus issuance have on the valuation of the company?
The computation of my N3.40 fair value estimate was without consideration to the expected dilution.
However, using a combination of several valuation methods, and including the impact post dilution, My Fair Value now prints @ approx N2.70.
But to be brief, I'd prefer to just highlight a few points:

Yes one of the cons of DILUTION (in this case via script issuance) is a decline in EPS and by extension the PE of a coy. (since it increases the OS) ...especially when its done WITHOUT a corresponding cash consideration/injection. (this is where AIICO is a perfect pick)
However, its important to note that the increase in the share capital of the coy is balanced by an equal decrease in reserve, hence the coys composition remains the same.
Put differently, the coys asset and liabilities is unchanged. So in principle, as long as the QUALITY of their asset and its YIELD is NOT in doubt, there's really no material impact from dilution.
In my view, the pros of this with CUTIX far outweigh any cons.
Recall that liquidity has always been an issue here. But with the issuance of the script issue/bonus, it's expected that that will be minimized. ...and the coys beta rating improved. (as issued shares increases, trade speed/execution increases given the availability of more volume)
The company may have also tour this line to improve the perception of it's size by increasing its relatively small OS.
Again, since the script was issued from un-appropriated earnings (distributable reserve), risk to creditors WILL drastically reduce, making the coy more attractive. ...so expect the key solvency ratios that test their asset quality to improve. (the coys enterprise value and asset yield supports this view)

There are lots to say but I'll stop at this. The important thing is to properly weigh things in balance. Yes there are negatives, but if u can take out time to study their financials (the last 2 AFS), u would see that the pros to this dilution (specifically with cutix) outweigh the cons. With a company's financials (just like in life), where positives outweigh negatives, and there's a clear trajectory to make for more positives, then there's an inherent VALUE to tap from.
My only little worry is that the company may be planning to raise funds in the nearest future. how, u may ask? ...the answer is locked in in this post, if u can read btw the lines.
The answer to ur last question (5) can also be drawn up herein. On question No 4, YES it would've been different. Try and read more about stock split.

Regards.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Infinitisi(m): 9:48am On Oct 16, 2018
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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by yok: 10:05am On Oct 16, 2018
NIGERIA STOCK MARKET GENERAL COMMENT/MSCI NIGERIA PORTFOLIO MOVEMENT - AS AT 15 OCTOBER 2018

MSCI Nigeria’s portfolio is still dormant.

The reduction in volume traded yesterday is a little bit worrisome (send me back to the “safe” mode). However, the negating factor is the low value of the movement, bear still weak. Market is still telling us to slow down opportunities are few. This earning season may likely deceive one to make the wrong move, best decision is to wait till the result is out, wait for about one week for the reaction to become normal.

For today expected High is 32520.63 and low at 32442.94.

In view of the fact that some additional information on our postings will now be added, you can check our twitter handle “Target Technical Analysis”.

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N:B



1. Due to the fact so many new people are coming to this forum and may not know this use of following the “big monies that move markets”, I will be indicating why/how to use the information. This will be a permanent future of my post to reduce some comments which may prevent the people that understand the system from confusion by people who have not followed how this started. My comment for today for anybody who doubts the efficacy of following the fund is to look at my recent recommendations for the past 2 months.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by DeRuggedProf: 10:44am On Oct 16, 2018
SUNU
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by onegentleguy: 11:11am On Oct 16, 2018
INTERNATIONAL BREWERIES !! shocked shocked
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by onegentleguy: 11:13am On Oct 16, 2018
WEMA now @ 0.70k, and still rising.
...that's an approx 30% return from the time I called it out here @ 0.54k.
Technically, the stock is now showing a clear bullish pattern.
FUNDAMENTALS very much intact.

One of the best GROWTH coys in the banking sector (tier 2 space)
A case of buying into the very juicy 'gap' of GROWTH BEHIND THE VALUE !!

Well, time shall put things in their right perspective.
We continue to observe.
It is well.

CAVEAT: NOT to be interpreted as any sought of recommendation. ...due diligence should still remain ur 1st priority.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by dipoolowoo: 11:23am On Oct 16, 2018
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by DeRuggedProf: 11:24am On Oct 16, 2018
onegentleguy:
WEMA now @ 0.70k, and still rising.
...that's an approx 30% return from the time I called it out here @ 0.54k.
Technically, the stock is now showing a clear bullish pattern.
FUNDAMENTALS very much intact.

One of the best GROWTH coys in the banking sector (tier 2 space)
A case of buying into the very juicy 'gap' of GROWTH BEHIND THE VALUE !!

Well, time shall put things in their right perspective.
We continue to observe.
It is well.

CAVEAT: NOT to be interpreted as any sought of recommendation. ...due diligence should still remain ur 1st priority.

If I were inside, You would have seen me pushing the window glass to escape, no need disturbing the conductor... grin

There is a GLASS CEILING @N0.70... grin
I know people will wait until they see FO and start all over again from square zero... grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by onegentleguy: 11:30am On Oct 16, 2018
DeRuggedProf:


If I were inside, You would have seen me pushing the window glass to escape, no need disturbing the conductor... grin

There is a GLASS CEILING @N0.70... grin
I know people will wait until they see FO and start all over again from square zero... grin

Ok ooo ...continue. wink cheesy
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 11:41am On Oct 16, 2018
DeRuggedProf:


If I were inside, You would have seen me pushing the window glass to escape, no need disturbing the conductor... grin

There is a GLASS CEILING @N0.70... grin
I know people will wait until they see FO and start all over again from square zero... grin

That stock show me something.. it’s a good stock but this time around nobody should go and buy above 0.70 oo.. you’ll just grow gray hair inside there..
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by OBAGADAFFI: 11:42am On Oct 16, 2018
DeRuggedProf:
SUNU

Wetin ya eye dey find
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Michael11stock(m): 11:42am On Oct 16, 2018
out of all the 5 stock i picked only transcorp refuse to move, what is this guy waiting for? grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Michael11stock(m): 11:45am On Oct 16, 2018
all doing good
Michael11stock:
Please not a recommendation these are my watch list

1. Transcorp
2. Fidelity
3. Zenith
4. Oando
5. Wema.

my power no reach 11 again as too many bears are running after me grin grin had to do this one ontop deepsu
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 11:48am On Oct 16, 2018
DeRuggedProf:
SUNU

Another Lazarus ? Ok oo
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by OBAGADAFFI: 11:55am On Oct 16, 2018
Yayira:


Another Lazarus ? Ok oo

Hunter becoming the hunted
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by OBAGADAFFI: 12:03pm On Oct 16, 2018
PZ indecision phase
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by DeRuggedProf: 12:05pm On Oct 16, 2018
GTB U try 4 volume.. grin

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Agbalowomeri: 12:11pm On Oct 16, 2018
Here we are
Waiting to cross the red sea

Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by DeRuggedProf: 12:20pm On Oct 16, 2018
Agbalowomeri:
Here we are
Waiting to cross the red sea

Lol... grin grin ; RED SEA indeed... grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by mendes911: 12:31pm On Oct 16, 2018
Agbalowomeri:
Here we are
Waiting to cross the red sea

Moses shall be dividing the sea by month end and cross-over will commence shortly after that.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by DeRuggedProf: 12:40pm On Oct 16, 2018
Honyflour = Smart Janet... grin
Sinking with pride .. grin

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