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Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by jackpot(f): 6:26pm On Jul 04, 2014 |
efficiencie: Someone posted the below question, I quess Sir Chides and I think the doctors in the clinic need to diagnose and profer 'curative' measures for the problem:it's a cheap question. K is a constant, so, cos k is also a constant. The rest follows similarly to the integration of sec x. 1 Like |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by STENON(f): 6:32pm On Jul 04, 2014 |
My Quiz masters.....@Jackpot, Benbuks, Richiez......I dey greet all of una here oo |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by jackpot(f): 6:45pm On Jul 04, 2014 |
doubleDx:Yea, the answer is 1, but I think the solution is correct to a ''great extent.'' ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by jackpot(f): 6:47pm On Jul 04, 2014 |
STENON: My Quiz masters.....@Jackpot, Benbuks, Richiez......I dey greet all of una here ooI greet you too, STENON!!! Hope you're good? ![]() |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 7:05pm On Jul 04, 2014 |
jackpot: Yea, the answer is 1, but I think the solution is correct to a ''great extent.'' Ok another approach. Rushed! lim x→0 sin(x){sin(x)} ^^^ It's in indeterminate form of 00. Transforming yields => e[lim x→0 ln{sin(x)}.sin(x)] For indeterminate form of type 0.∞ => We write => lim x→0 ln{sin(x)}.sin(x) as => lim x→0 ln{sin(x)} ÷ 1/sin(x) =>lim x→0 sin(x)ln{sin(x)} Applying L'Hospital rule yields => => e{lim x→0 -sin(x)} => Factoring out constants yields => => e- {lim x→0 sin(x)} => e(0) => 1 |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 7:40pm On Jul 04, 2014 |
jackpot: I am having problems with the bolded. How can you equate "limit" both sides and cancel out? yes dear , he's correct though it ought to be lny= -lim(sinx) & not " lim.lny =-lim(sinx) as written above . => lny =0 ..(as x-->0) => y=e^0 hence y=1 just realized your point , the guy try sha.. |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 7:47pm On Jul 04, 2014 |
STENON: My Quiz masters.....@Jackpot, Benbuks, Richiez......I dey greet all of una here oo..oo my darling , greetings to you the great physicist/mathematician how body na.... trust the lord has been faithful .. |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 7:53pm On Jul 04, 2014 |
doubleDx: nice solution from my big boss, prof., mathematician & oga the top of top you kinda did the same as efficiencie , you only first switched the "ln" to "exp." all join sha .. d answer na still 1 .. kudos sir . 1 Like |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 7:54pm On Jul 04, 2014 |
benbuks: Yeah he did a great job! |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by efficiencie(m): 8:01pm On Jul 04, 2014 |
jackpot: I am having problems with the bolded. How can you equate "limit" both sides and cancel out? if B=A(x) then the limiting value of A(x) as x tends to x(0) would also be the limiting value of B as x tends to x(0). Mathematically, limB=limA(x)=l as x→x(0) and hence B=A(x)=l in the limit. So i didn't cancel out the Lim's so to say, it simply follows from the definition of limits! for limlny=-limsinx as x→0 the limiting variable is x and not y, since y is a function of x such that: y=(sinx)^(sinx) |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by efficiencie(m): 8:03pm On Jul 04, 2014 |
jackpot: it's a cheap question. K is a constant, so, cos k is also a constant. The rest follows similarly to the integration of sec x. solve it! |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 8:10pm On Jul 04, 2014 |
Hayormeah: how much glucose syrup with 20 % concentration has to be mixed with 100kg glucose syrup with 40 % concentration so that the mixture will have 36 % glucose? its chemistry i suppose .... Solve 0.2x + 100*0.4 = 0.36(x+100) |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by jackpot(f): 9:45pm On Jul 04, 2014 |
doubleDx:outstanding. But under which condition should one pass limit from ground to the exponent as you did in the bolded? |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by jackpot(f): 9:52pm On Jul 04, 2014 |
efficiencie:now, from your bolded comment, if Limx ->0e^x = Limx->0cos x = 1, so can we say e^x= cos x? 2 Likes |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by fasodecapo(m): 4:09am On Jul 05, 2014 |
jackpot: now, from your bolded comment, if Limx ->0e^x = Limx->0cos x = 1, so can we say e^x= cos x?I don't think so, since we can't say cos x is a function of e^x. |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 7:47am On Jul 05, 2014 |
jackpot: Sorry, my bad; the error was from my typing ![]() lim x→0 sin(x){sin(x)} ^^^ It's in indeterminate form of 00. Transforming yields => lim x→0 e[ln{sin(x)}.sin(x)] For indeterminate form of type 0.∞ => We write => lim x→0 ln{sin(x)}.sin(x) as => lim x→0 ln{sin(x)} ÷ 1/sin(x) =>lim x→0 sin(x)ln{sin(x)} Applying L'Hospital rule yields => => lim x→0 e{-sin(x)} => Factoring out constants yields => => lim x→0 e- {sin(x)} => e(0) => 1 ^^^^ Also if you use the continuity of esin(x) at x = 0, the bold can be rewritten as => 1/lim x→0 e{sin(x)} or e-{lim x→0 sin(x)}. The limit of sin(x) as x→0 is 0, hence the solution! |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by STENON(f): 8:05am On Jul 05, 2014 |
[quote author=benbuks]..oo my darling , greetings to you the great physicist/mathematician how body na.... trust the lord has been faithful ..[/quote] Goodmrn, Yes, He Has....and He will forever be Faithful......Hope Statistics is treating you well? |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by jackpot(f): 1:20pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
doubleDx: |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by jackpot(f): 1:21pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
doubleDx:exactly! Respect, Sire! ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by efficiencie(m): 3:21pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
jackpot: now, from your bolded comment, if Limx ->0e^x = Limx->0cos x = 1, so can we say e^x= cos x? yes e^x=cosx as x tends to zero. the equality will hold only as x tends to zero. this can also be seen graphically ma'am! both graphs would intersect at point x=0 indicating that the right and left limits would converge to unity for both functions as x tends to zero. |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by efficiencie(m): 3:26pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
jackpot: now, from your bolded comment, if Limx ->0e^x = Limx->0cos x = 1, so can we say e^x= cos x? fasodecapo: I don't think so, since we can't say cos x is a function of e^x. cosx is clearly not a function of e^x, directly, but both are functions of 'x' and if both converge to unity as x tends to zero then in the limit they are equal such that cosx=e^x as x tends to zero. hence if i say let y=e^x then Limy=Lime^x as x tends to zero and if Lime^x=1 as x tends to zero then Limy=1 as x tends to zero and in other terms it could be stated that: e^x=1 as x tends to zero or y=1 as x tends to zero. however with regards to my solution i guess i can make it clearer by adding these lines of reasoning: Limlny=-Limsinx as x tends to zero Limlny=0 as x tends to zero lnLimy=0 as x tends to zero Limy=e^0 as x tends to zero Limy=1 as x tends to zero and since y=(sinx)^(sinx) then Lim[(sinx)^(sinx)]=1 1 Like |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 4:34pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
jackpot: exactly! Respect, Sire! Thanks for the compliment ma'am~! |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by jackpot(f): 4:37pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
efficiencie:^confirm! |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by STENON(f): 4:40pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
Following......Learning Mood activated........ |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by jackpot(f): 4:45pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
Dear Math Generals, Lieutenants and Sergeants, Evaluate the limit: lim x -> 0 (3x-tan 3x)/(x^3) 5Star tags: doubleDx, doubleDx, Laplacian, Richiez, benbuks, efficiencie, efficiencie, dejt4u, Amazing Angel, STENON, fasodecapo, Mathematical Scientists and Engineers. |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by efficiencie(m): 4:56pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
jackpot: it's a cheap question. K is a constant, so, cos k is also a constant. The rest follows similarly to the integration of sec x. i guess ur encouragement paid off, i'v been trying sir chides' questn bt d soln az been eluding me...bt dis tym, i gues i nailed it ∫(1/(cosk + cosx))dx Let cosk=1/a = a∫(1/(1 + acosx))dx = a∫(1/(cos^2(x/2) + sin^2(x/2) + acos^2(x/2) - asin^2(x/2) ))dx = a∫(1/(cos^2(x/2) + acos^2(x/2) + sin^2(x/2) - asin^2(x/2)))dx = a∫(1/((1+a)cos^2(x/2) + (1-a)sin^2(x/2)))dx = a∫sec^2(x/2)dx/((1+a) + (1-a)tan^2(x/2))) = (a/(1+a))∫sec^2(x/2)dx/(1 + {√[(1-a)/(1+a)].tan(x/2)}^2) Let tan(u/2)=√[(1-a)/(1+a)].tan(x/2) (1/2)sec^2(u/2)du=(1/2)√[(1-a)/(1+a)].sec^2(x/2)dx √[(1+a)/(1-a)].sec^2(u/2)du= sec^2(x/2)dx hence (a/(1+a)) ∫sec^2(x/2)dx/(1 + {√[(1-a)/(1+a)].tan(x/2)}^2) Becomes = (a/(1+a)) ∫√[(1+a)/(1-a)].sec^2(u/2)du /(1 + tan^2(u/2)) = (a/(1+a)). √[(1+a)/(1-a)]∫du = (a/(1+a)) .√[(1+a)/(1-a)]u = {2a/√[(1+a).(1-a)]}. arctan{√[(1-a)/(1+a)]tan(x/2)} Where 1/a=cosk over to the auditors |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by jackpot(f): 5:25pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
^your solution looks sexy! ![]() |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by efficiencie(m): 5:30pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
jackpot: Dear Math Generals, Lieutenants and Sergeants, Let 'Lim' denote d limiting value as x tends to zero. Lim{(3x-tan3x)/(x^3)} On applyn l'hopitals, since the functn results in (0/0) = Lim{(3-3.Sec^2(3x))/(3x^2)} On applyn l'hopitals again, since the functn results in (0/0) = Lim{(-18.Sec^2(3x)tan(3x))/(6x)} (I luv dis!) On applyn l'hopitals again, since the functn results in (0/0) = Lim{-9.sec^4(3x) - 18.Sec^2(3x)tan^2(3x)) } = Lim{-9.sec^4(3x)} - Lim{18.Sec^2(3x)tan^2(3x)) } = -9 - 18.(1).(0) = -9 Auditors! 1 Like |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 5:35pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
jackpot: Dear Math Generals, Lieutenants and Sergeants, efficiencie got it correctly; it's -9. I will post mine later! |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by jackpot(f): 6:34pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
efficiencie:that was exactly what I got, but. . . |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by efficiencie(m): 6:47pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
jackpot: that was exactly what I got, but. . . but what, miss Jackpot! |
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by jackpot(f): 6:47pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
doubleDx:Pls, do so ASAP. ![]() |
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