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Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by jackpot(f): 6:26pm On Jul 04, 2014
efficiencie: Someone posted the below question, I quess Sir Chides and I think the doctors in the clinic need to diagnose and profer 'curative' measures for the problem:

Evaluate: ∫dx/(cosk + cosx)
it's a cheap question. K is a constant, so, cos k is also a constant. The rest follows similarly to the integration of sec x.

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Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by STENON(f): 6:32pm On Jul 04, 2014
My Quiz masters.....@Jackpot, Benbuks, Richiez......I dey greet all of una here oo
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by jackpot(f): 6:45pm On Jul 04, 2014
doubleDx:

Yes, it's = 1

I think general efficiencie solved it correctly!...I will check out later. 1luv

I'm a little busy now!
Yea, the answer is 1, but I think the solution is correct to a ''great extent.'' wink

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Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by jackpot(f): 6:47pm On Jul 04, 2014
STENON: My Quiz masters.....@Jackpot, Benbuks, Richiez......I dey greet all of una here oo
I greet you too, STENON!!! Hope you're good? cool
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 7:05pm On Jul 04, 2014
jackpot: Yea, the answer is 1, but I think the solution is correct to a ''great extent.'' wink

Ok another approach. Rushed!

lim x→0 sin(x){sin(x)}

^^^

It's in indeterminate form of 00.

Transforming yields => e[lim x→0 ln{sin(x)}.sin(x)]

For indeterminate form of type 0.∞ =>

We write => lim x→0 ln{sin(x)}.sin(x) as => lim x→0 ln{sin(x)} ÷ 1/sin(x)
=>lim x→0 sin(x)ln{sin(x)}

Applying L'Hospital rule yields =>

=> e{lim x→0 -sin(x)}
=> Factoring out constants yields =>

=> e- {lim x→0 sin(x)}

=> e(0)

=> 1
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 7:40pm On Jul 04, 2014
jackpot: I am having problems with the bolded. How can you equate "limit" both sides and cancel out?

Next, that LimIny is as y tends to what?

yes dear , he's correct

though it ought to be

lny= -lim(sinx) & not " lim.lny =-lim(sinx) as written above .

=> lny =0 ..(as x-->0)

=> y=e^0

hence y=1

just realized your point , the guy try sha..
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 7:47pm On Jul 04, 2014
STENON: My Quiz masters.....@Jackpot, Benbuks, Richiez......I dey greet all of una here oo
..oo my darling , greetings to you the great physicist/mathematician how body na.... trust the lord has been faithful ..
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 7:53pm On Jul 04, 2014
doubleDx:

Ok another approach. Rushed!

lim x→0 sin(x){sin(x)}

^^^

It's in indeterminate form of 00.

Transforming yields => e[lim x→0 ln{sin(x)}.sin(x)]

For indeterminate form of type 0.∞ =>

We write => lim x→0 ln{sin(x)}.sin(x) as => lim x→0 ln{sin(x)} ÷ 1/sin(x)
=>lim x→0 sin(x)ln{sin(x)}

Applying L'Hospital rule yields =>

=> e{lim x→0 -sin(x)}
=> Factoring out constants yields =>

=> e- {lim x→0 sin(x)}

=> e(0)

=> 1


nice solution from my big boss, prof., mathematician & oga the top of top


you kinda did the same as efficiencie , you only first switched the "ln" to "exp." all join sha .. d answer na still 1 ..

kudos sir .

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Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 7:54pm On Jul 04, 2014
benbuks:

yes dear , he's correct

though it ought to be

lny= -lim(sinx) & not " lim.lny =-lim(sinx) as written above .

=> lny =0 ..(as x-->0)

=> y=e^0

hence y=1

just realized your point , the guy try sha..

Yeah he did a great job!
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by efficiencie(m): 8:01pm On Jul 04, 2014
jackpot: I am having problems with the bolded. How can you equate "limit" both sides and cancel out?

Next, that LimIny is as y tends to what?

if B=A(x) then the limiting value of A(x) as x tends to x(0) would also be the limiting value of B as x tends to x(0). Mathematically, limB=limA(x)=l as x→x(0) and hence B=A(x)=l in the limit. So i didn't cancel out the Lim's so to say, it simply follows from the definition of limits!


for limlny=-limsinx as x→0 the limiting variable is x and not y, since y is a function of x such that:
y=(sinx)^(sinx)
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by efficiencie(m): 8:03pm On Jul 04, 2014
jackpot: it's a cheap question. K is a constant, so, cos k is also a constant. The rest follows similarly to the integration of sec x.

solve it!
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 8:10pm On Jul 04, 2014
Hayormeah: how much glucose syrup with 20 % concentration has to be mixed with 100kg glucose syrup with 40 % concentration so that the mixture will have 36 % glucose?

its chemistry i suppose ....

Solve 0.2x + 100*0.4 = 0.36(x+100)
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by jackpot(f): 9:45pm On Jul 04, 2014
doubleDx:

Ok another approach. Rushed!

lim x→0 sin(x){sin(x)}

^^^

It's in indeterminate form of 00.

Transforming yields => e[lim x→0 ln{sin(x)}.sin(x)]

For indeterminate form of type 0.∞ =>

We write => lim x→0 ln{sin(x)}.sin(x) as => lim x→0 ln{sin(x)} ÷ 1/sin(x)
=>lim x→0 sin(x)ln{sin(x)}

Applying L'Hospital rule yields =>

=> e{lim x→0 -sin(x)}
=> Factoring out constants yields =>

=> e- {lim x→0 sin(x)}

=> e(0)

=> 1

outstanding.

But under which condition should one pass limit from ground to the exponent as you did in the bolded?
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by jackpot(f): 9:52pm On Jul 04, 2014
efficiencie:

if B=A(x) then the limiting value of A(x) as x tends to x(0) would also be the limiting value of B as x tends to x(0). Mathematically, limB=limA(x)=l as x→x(0) and hence B=A(x)=l in the limit. So i didn't cancel out the Lim's so to say, it simply follows from the definition of limits!


for limlny=-limsinx as x→0 the limiting variable is x and not y, since y is a function of x such that:
y=(sinx)^(sinx)
now, from your bolded comment, if Limx ->0e^x = Limx->0cos x = 1, so can we say e^x= cos x?

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Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by fasodecapo(m): 4:09am On Jul 05, 2014
jackpot: now, from your bolded comment, if Limx ->0e^x = Limx->0cos x = 1, so can we say e^x= cos x?
I don't think so, since we can't say cos x is a function of e^x.
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 7:47am On Jul 05, 2014
jackpot:
outstanding.

But under which condition should one pass limit from ground to the exponent as you did in the bolded?

Sorry, my bad; the error was from my typing grin it was supposed to be =>

lim x→0 sin(x){sin(x)}

^^^

It's in indeterminate form of 00.

Transforming yields => lim x→0 e[ln{sin(x)}.sin(x)]

For indeterminate form of type 0.∞ =>

We write => lim x→0 ln{sin(x)}.sin(x) as => lim x→0 ln{sin(x)} ÷ 1/sin(x)
=>lim x→0 sin(x)ln{sin(x)}

Applying L'Hospital rule yields =>

=> lim x→0 e{-sin(x)}
=> Factoring out constants yields =>

=> lim x→0 e- {sin(x)}

=> e(0)

=> 1


^^^^

Also if you use the continuity of esin(x) at x = 0, the bold can be rewritten as =>

1/lim x→0 e{sin(x)} or e-{lim x→0 sin(x)}.

The limit of sin(x) as x→0 is 0, hence the solution!
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by STENON(f): 8:05am On Jul 05, 2014
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author=benbuks]..oo my darling , greetings to you the great
physicist/mathematician how body na.... trust the lord has been
faithful ..[/quote] Goodmrn, Yes, He Has....and He will forever be Faithful......Hope Statistics is treating you well?
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by jackpot(f): 1:20pm On Jul 05, 2014
doubleDx:

Sorry, my bad; the error was from my typing grin it was supposed to be =>

lim x→0 sin(x){sin(x)}

^^^

It's in indeterminate form of 00.

Transforming yields => lim x→0 e[ln{sin(x)}.sin(x)]

For indeterminate form of type 0.∞ =>

We write => lim x→0 ln{sin(x)}.sin(x) as => lim x→0 ln{sin(x)} ÷ 1/sin(x)
=>lim x→0 sin(x)ln{sin(x)}

Applying L'Hospital rule yields =>

=> lim x→0 e{-sin(x)}
=> Factoring out constants yields =>

=> lim x→0 e- {sin(x)}

=> e(0)

=> 1


^^^^

Also if you use the continuity of esin(x) at x = 0, the bold can be rewritten as =>

1/lim x→0 e{sin(x)} or e-{lim x→0 sin(x)}.

The limit of sin(x) as x→0 is 0, hence the solution!
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by jackpot(f): 1:21pm On Jul 05, 2014
doubleDx:

Sorry, my bad; the error was from my typing grin it was supposed to be =>

lim x→0 sin(x){sin(x)}

^^^

It's in indeterminate form of 00.

Transforming yields => lim x→0 e[ln{sin(x)}.sin(x)]

For indeterminate form of type 0.∞ =>

We write => lim x→0 ln{sin(x)}.sin(x) as => lim x→0 ln{sin(x)} ÷ 1/sin(x)
=>lim x→0 sin(x)ln{sin(x)}

Applying L'Hospital rule yields =>

=> lim x→0 e{-sin(x)}
=> Factoring out constants yields =>

=> lim x→0 e- {sin(x)}

=> e(0)

=> 1


^^^^

Also if you use the continuity of esin(x) at x = 0, the bold can be rewritten as =>

1/lim x→0 e{sin(x)} or e-{lim x→0 sin(x)}.

The limit of sin(x) as x→0 is 0, hence the solution!
exactly! Respect, Sire! wink cool

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Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by efficiencie(m): 3:21pm On Jul 05, 2014
jackpot: now, from your bolded comment, if Limx ->0e^x = Limx->0cos x = 1, so can we say e^x= cos x?

yes e^x=cosx as x tends to zero. the equality will hold only as x tends to zero. this can also be seen graphically ma'am! both graphs would intersect at point x=0 indicating that the right and left limits would converge to unity for both functions as x tends to zero.
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by efficiencie(m): 3:26pm On Jul 05, 2014
jackpot: now, from your bolded comment, if Limx ->0e^x = Limx->0cos x = 1, so can we say e^x= cos x?

fasodecapo: I don't think so, since we can't say cos x is a function of e^x.

cosx is clearly not a function of e^x, directly, but both are functions of 'x' and if both converge to unity as x tends to zero then in the limit they are equal such that cosx=e^x as x tends to zero.

hence if i say let y=e^x
then Limy=Lime^x as x tends to zero and if Lime^x=1 as x tends to zero then Limy=1 as x tends to zero and in other terms it could be stated that: e^x=1 as x tends to zero or y=1 as x tends to zero.


however with regards to my solution i guess i can make it clearer by adding these lines of reasoning:

Limlny=-Limsinx as x tends to zero

Limlny=0 as x tends to zero

lnLimy=0 as x tends to zero

Limy=e^0 as x tends to zero

Limy=1 as x tends to zero

and since y=(sinx)^(sinx)

then Lim[(sinx)^(sinx)]=1

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Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 4:34pm On Jul 05, 2014
jackpot: exactly! Respect, Sire! wink cool

Thanks for the compliment ma'am~!
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by jackpot(f): 4:37pm On Jul 05, 2014
efficiencie:
cosx is clearly not a function of e^x, directly, but both are functions of 'x' and if both converge to unity as x tends to zero then in the limit they are equal such that cosx=e^x as x tends to zero.
hence if i say let y=e^x
then Limy=Lime^x as x tends to zero and if Lime^x=1 as x tends to zero then Limy=1 as x tends to zero and in other terms it could be stated that: e^x=1 as x tends to zero or y=1 as x tends to zero.
however with regards to my solution i guess i can make it clearer by adding these lines of reasoning:
Limlny=-Limsinx as x tends to zero
Limlny=0 as x tends to zero
lnLimy=0 as x tends to zero
Limy=e^0 as x tends to zero
Limy=1 as x tends to zero
and since y=(sinx)^(sinx)
then Lim[(sinx)^(sinx)]=1
^confirm!
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by STENON(f): 4:40pm On Jul 05, 2014
Following......Learning Mood activated........
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by jackpot(f): 4:45pm On Jul 05, 2014
Dear Math Generals, Lieutenants and Sergeants,

Evaluate the limit: lim x -> 0 (3x-tan 3x)/(x^3)

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Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by efficiencie(m): 4:56pm On Jul 05, 2014
jackpot: it's a cheap question. K is a constant, so, cos k is also a constant. The rest follows similarly to the integration of sec x.


i guess ur encouragement paid off, i'v been trying sir chides' questn bt d soln az been eluding me...bt dis tym, i gues i nailed it


∫(1/(cosk + cosx))dx

Let cosk=1/a

= a∫(1/(1 + acosx))dx

= a∫(1/(cos^2(x/2) + sin^2(x/2) + acos^2(x/2) - asin^2(x/2) ))dx

= a∫(1/(cos^2(x/2) + acos^2(x/2) + sin^2(x/2) - asin^2(x/2)))dx

= a∫(1/((1+a)cos^2(x/2) + (1-a)sin^2(x/2)))dx

= a∫sec^2(x/2)dx/((1+a) + (1-a)tan^2(x/2)))

= (a/(1+a))∫sec^2(x/2)dx/(1 + {√[(1-a)/(1+a)].tan(x/2)}^2)

Let tan(u/2)=√[(1-a)/(1+a)].tan(x/2)

(1/2)sec^2(u/2)du=(1/2)√[(1-a)/(1+a)].sec^2(x/2)dx

√[(1+a)/(1-a)].sec^2(u/2)du= sec^2(x/2)dx

hence
(a/(1+a)) ∫sec^2(x/2)dx/(1 + {√[(1-a)/(1+a)].tan(x/2)}^2)

Becomes
= (a/(1+a)) ∫√[(1+a)/(1-a)].sec^2(u/2)du /(1 + tan^2(u/2))

= (a/(1+a)). √[(1+a)/(1-a)]∫du

= (a/(1+a)) .√[(1+a)/(1-a)]u

= {2a/√[(1+a).(1-a)]}. arctan{√[(1-a)/(1+a)]tan(x/2)}
Where 1/a=cosk

over to the auditors
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by jackpot(f): 5:25pm On Jul 05, 2014
^your solution looks sexy! cool
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by efficiencie(m): 5:30pm On Jul 05, 2014
jackpot: Dear Math Generals, Lieutenants and Sergeants,

Evaluate the limit: lim x -> 0 (3x-tan 3x)/(x^3)

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Let 'Lim' denote d limiting value as x tends to zero.

Lim{(3x-tan3x)/(x^3)}
On applyn l'hopitals, since the functn results in (0/0)
= Lim{(3-3.Sec^2(3x))/(3x^2)}
On applyn l'hopitals again, since the functn results in (0/0)
= Lim{(-18.Sec^2(3x)tan(3x))/(6x)}
(I luv dis!) On applyn l'hopitals again, since the functn results in (0/0)
= Lim{-9.sec^4(3x) - 18.Sec^2(3x)tan^2(3x)) }
= Lim{-9.sec^4(3x)} - Lim{18.Sec^2(3x)tan^2(3x)) }
= -9 - 18.(1).(0)
= -9

Auditors!

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Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by Nobody: 5:35pm On Jul 05, 2014
jackpot: Dear Math Generals, Lieutenants and Sergeants,

Evaluate the limit: lim x -> 0 (3x-tan 3x)/(x^3)

5Star tags: doubleDx, doubleDx, Laplacian, Richiez, benbuks, efficiencie, dejt4u, Amazing Angel, STENON, fasodecapo, Mathematical Scientists and Engineers.

efficiencie got it correctly; it's -9. I will post mine later!
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by jackpot(f): 6:34pm On Jul 05, 2014
efficiencie:


Let 'Lim' denote d limiting value as x tends to zero.

Lim{(3x-tan3x)/(x^3)}
On applyn l'hopitals, since the functn results in (0/0)
= Lim{(3-3.Sec^2(3x))/(3x^2)}
On applyn l'hopitals again, since the functn results in (0/0)
= Lim{(-18.Sec^2(3x)tan(3x))/(6x)}
(I luv dis!) On applyn l'hopitals again, since the functn results in (0/0)
= Lim{-9.sec^4(3x) - 18.Sec^2(3x)tan^2(3x)) }
= Lim{-9.sec^4(3x)} - Lim{18.Sec^2(3x)tan^2(3x)) }
= -9 - 18.(1).(0)
= -9

Auditors!
that was exactly what I got, but. . .
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by efficiencie(m): 6:47pm On Jul 05, 2014
jackpot: that was exactly what I got, but. . .

but what, miss Jackpot!
Re: Nairaland Mathematics Clinic by jackpot(f): 6:47pm On Jul 05, 2014
doubleDx:

efficiencie got it correctly; it's -9. I will post mine later!
Pls, do so ASAP. cool

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