A-ZeD:

Bros don't mind the educated illiterates we have on nairaland

We're talking of a prof here, mister! What makes u think he will make such claims without clinical tests? Knowing what it can do to his integrity if he was found wrong... The bottomline is, there's something fishy here....i'm in UNIBEN, I know how they reason.

Since him find cure for aids them hear hi name, pls naija olofofo tell the world that I can raise the death# make my name still cast small

There is more to this.... Only time can tell.

Instead of them to enthusiastically find a way to validate his claims and help humanity... They are bothered about "protocols". Na wa o, Africans!

A gathering of foolish people can only generate foolishness. Kai! What am I doing here

A-ZeD:

1)He used their equipments, he works for them and he used office hours to develop it.
2)You my friend are an ignorant fellow. How do you claim you can cure hiv when you've not done clinical trials? What are the side effects of the drug?
It's people like you who have no idea how things should work that are pulling this country back.

Juvenile response! I'll not insult u as u hv done, but I'll reply u in a matured manner. When a prof in america claimed he had a cure for HIV(vaccine called TRUVADA) they tested it on some HIV patients, but it didn't cure them n they discredited it! That's a good 1! They didn't ask him to get d school authority involved! Open ur brain n understand it. U don't just destroy my findings out rightly! Ok, let's assume he didn't pass thru the right channel, but dis is a cure d whole world has bn waiting for, y not test it n see if it works, then u can sanction him.

I graduated from UNIBEN n frm all dis it proves to show dat Prof Ibeh has nt joined d cult wia does other Profs belong,abi no b uniben again rubbish sch

They talk as if protocols work anywhere in Nigeria. They'll only end stifling the research. Carry along, my foot!

I seconded your opinion.

austushi1:

What if he does it alone? Is it their brain he used to get d findings? Its envy! Let's say it d way it is. Black man no dey like make him fellow black man rise above am! They are probably envious of him dat the U.S government might take him abroad n expand his levels, n then make him popular. U kw hw it is now; how dis common prof wey we sit 2geda discuss say make dem give am prof go come popular worldwide n we go come remain here. Its d black man reasoning! Black man with black sense! They just want to discredit dat mans effort! That's y d whites will ever be better than us. Its so annoying! Ok, y didn't they get 1 HIV patient, pass d vaccine into his/her systen, then see if it works or not! F..king procedure! Procedure my foot! Prof, bone dem make u continue with ya life ojare!

austushi1:

What if he does it alone? Is it their brain he used to get d findings? Its envy! Let's say it d way it is. Black man no dey like make him fellow black man rise above am! They are probably envious of him dat the U.S government might take him abroad n expand his levels, n then make him popular. U kw hw it is now; how dis common prof wey we sit 2geda discuss say make dem give am prof go come popular worldwide n we go come remain here. Its d black man reasoning! Black man with black sense! They just want to discredit dat mans effort! That's y d whites will ever be better than us. Its so annoying! Ok, y didn't they get 1 HIV patient, pass d vaccine into his/her systen, then see if it works or not! F..king procedure! Procedure my foot! Prof, bone dem make u continue with ya life ojare!

bariga boy, ur sense of reasoning is upside down. was wole soyinka not at o.a.u when he won d nobel prize? where did soludo get his phd from or akinluyi? so wat r u talking about? envy who? why didnt OAU lecturers pull wole soyinka down from winning d nobel prize? no wonder u live in bariga

many people underate our proffessors because they are nigerians........if this man is american or french,,,many will believe him,,

Hmmmmmmph! Instead of "em to help prod the prof atleast for trying his limited best on the lonq odious search for HIV cure,some peeps are eaqer to brinq him down,

austushi1:

Juvenile response! I'll not insult u as u hv done, but I'll reply u in a matured manner. When a prof in america claimed he had a cure for HIV(vaccine called TRUVADA) they tested it on some HIV patients, but it didn't cure them n they discredited it! That's a good 1! They didn't ask him to get d school authority involved! Open ur brain n understand it. U don't just destroy my findings out rightly! Ok, let's assume he didn't pass thru the right channel, but dis is a cure d whole world has bn waiting for, y not test it n see if it works, then u can sanction him.

Sorry for the insult. In medicine there is what they call clinical trials, and to perform clinical trials you have to get permission from relevant authorities. He is also a staff of uniben and as his employers they have to know what he is doing with the time he is paid for. I'm pretty sure he used uniben's equipment too.

acidosis™:


Sorry but thats the way it is...right from creation. Prof is a civil servant.. someone pays him! He's a servant working under authority! He has no right whatsoever to carry out such research in isolation.

If he must do it alone.. Fine! He can willingly resign and then, set up a private research laboratory... Remember, even the private labs are under authority.. There are regulations in the pharmaceutical/pharmacological sector (B.P)

Yes bros, ur right in a way, @least u responded maturedly, but d fact dat u pay me peanuts as a prof compared to other countries, n you make me resign @an age I'm not supose to, and u failed in ur promises to make life better for me, doesn't mean I shouldn't use my brain and talent God has given me to carve a nitch for myself n grow more than ur forsaking hemisphere! After all, I gave more services than ur reward n failed promises! Now my point: I'm not a medical person, but how do u test clinically dat my vaccine is genuine or not? If I say dis vaccine can cure an HIV patient, is it not proper that u take it to d lab, make some tests n then test it on a patient to see if it works or not? Do u think if a white man finds a vaccine like dis prof, they would condemn it outrightly because of some protocols? Y u dey yern like say we no dey play politics pass oyinbo wey bring am(politics) self!

skyfall: Hmnnnnnn is this true? I sense greed if yes. Wish i can bring the Prof to Nairaland to defend himself.

I thought they usually said in any job placemet"that one must be able to work with little or no supervision"but why are they turninq around to say some bunch of gibberish!wtf

If our leaders say's we don't have youth in this country that wil take Nigeria to our promise land..It wil sound as if they don't know what they're saying...Why wil someone on earth blame the institutn..Use your brain NLer...Even a day year old baby knws that the Prof his wrong.

simdam500: Release dis tin aah

you get HIV.

if he had carried them along someone could have stolen the whole idea and clam he came up wit it.
At this stage the university needs to express their stand so he wont disgrace the school internationally if the cure is false

he discovered an HIV catalyst.....

HAH: The university is right verification protocol must be followed, beside most of those that had similar claims before have been found to be lie I.e Dr Jeremiah Abalaka who now sells ice block in Idah Kogi state.

And opposite Demonstration Primary School, Gwagwalada, FCT-Abuja.

A-ZeD:

Sorry for the insult. In medicine there is what they call clinical trials, and to perform clinical trials you have to get permission from relevant authorities. He is also a staff of uniben and as his employers they have to know what he is doing with the time he is paid for. I'm pretty sure he used uniben's equipment too.

Apologies accepted! My boy(lol) now ur talking like a graduate or someone @d verge of graduation. Its right they do clinical trials n he made a mistake or rather he he messed up for not passing thru d relevant authorities! Make we talk like 9ja guys; what if he passed thru d relevant authorities, and because of envy n politics they discredited it? Maybe he thot of d politics involved in carrying it out n he decided dat d best way to make it known was to do without them! My point is; don't condemn it because it didn't pass thru procedures. Get d vaccines from him n pass it thru dez procedures genuinely n then test on any HIV patient who is willing to give him/her self, then let's see if it works or not

acidosis™:
January 9, 2013 | 9:11 pm
News
By GABRIEL ENOGHOLASE BENIN—

AS controversy continues to trail the alleged discovery of a drug for the cure of HIV/AIDS by the Dean of School of Basic Medical Sciences of the University of Benin, Prof. Isaiah Ibeh, the authorities of the institution, yesterday, in Benin, faulted the dean’s claims.

Prof. Ibeh had, in a recent interview, hinted of the discovery of an oral drug made from plants extraction in Nigeria for the possible cure of the pandemic HIV/AIDS.

Reacting to Prof. Ibeh’s claim during an interaction with newsmen who were at the university to authenticate the alleged discovery, Provost, College of Medical Sciences of the University, Prof. Vincent Iyawe, said the institution was not in agreement with Prof. Ibeh’s claim for now, alleging that the University was, “not carried along” in the research He said: “The School would like to take credit for a break- through, but it cannot align with the breakthrough because the College was not consulted, the University was not consulted, and he did not carry anybody along.

“There are protocols and procedures. Going from stage to stage, we ought to give it clinical trials, by taking it to the Federal Ministry of Health to do clinical trials and many other things involved. We also needed to take it to National Agency for Food, Drug Administration and Control, NAFDAC, and many other things had to be done before you come out with your claims, in addition to taking it to World Health Organisation.”

He said all the university was doing was to protect Prof. Ibeh and the integrity of the institution.

www.vanguardngr.com/2013/01/cure-for-hivaids-uniben-denounces-prof-ibehs-claim/

Some peoples ignorance baffles me. What is bad belle in the statement made by the provost for christ's sake? He said the institution is not in agreement with Professor Ibehs claim FOR NOW!!!!! reason being because the university was not carried along meaning that some protocols have to be observed in order to verify the claims made by the scientist. For some reason some people have misconstrued that statement to mean that Prof Ibeh did not bribe the "University cabal". Some of you on this nairaland are just a big temptation. It's like You want people to insult you for refusing to use your brains. What responsible institution will back a staff member for claims that have no proof? If so research or academic staff of the institution can come out and claim they have discovered how to get to heaven or El dorado and the University should back them up because the individual is a staff member. Common people use ya head!! The provost even took the time to explain that the school would like to take credit for the discovery claim but cannot because laid down protocols have not been followed which include clinical trials, informing the federal ministry of health, NAFDAC, WHO e.t.c. What else do you expect the school to do? And for those saying it is non of the University's business because it is a personal research your ignorance can be pardoned. But however, you must know that any scientific Journal that the findings are published in will have the University of Benin as the academic institution where the research was carried out. Also any funding that has been and will be derived for the research was and will be granted as a result of the knowledge that the University of Benin was and will be serving as a form of guarantor to provide facilities and support where the research will be carried out. I hope my points are well understood.

Kzinne: bariga boy, ur sense of reasoning is upside down. was wole soyinka not at o.a.u when he won d nobel prize? where did soludo get his phd from or akinluyi? so wat r u talking about? envy who? why didnt OAU lecturers pull wole soyinka down from winning d nobel prize? no wonder u live in bariga

Everybody dat commented has done dat intelligently, with points. I'll ignore ur insult n assume ur a kid! Grow up younger bro! I no dey shame say I dey live for bariga. 9ce, djzeez, olamide, ruggedy, nomoreloss, all lived in bariga @one point

All over!

austushi1:

Everybody dat commented has done dat intelligently, with points. I'll ignore ur insult n assume ur a kid! Grow up younger bro! I no dey shame say I dey live for bariga. 9ce, djzeez, olamide, ruggedy, nomoreloss, all lived in bariga @one point

only musicians seemed to hav come out of that slum calld bariga, no scientists or innovators at all? no wonder u com here to say rubbish, take ur sorry ass to d romance section

austushi1:

Yes bros, ur right in a way, @least u responded maturedly, but d fact dat u pay me peanuts as a prof compared to other countries, n you make me resign @an age I'm not supose to, and u failed in ur promises to make life better for me, doesn't mean I shouldn't use my brain and talent God has given me to carve a nitch for myself n grow more than ur forsaking hemisphere! After all, I gave more services than ur reward n failed promises! Now my point: I'm not a medical person, but how do u test clinically dat my vaccine is genuine or not? If I say dis vaccine can cure an HIV patient, is it not proper that u take it to d lab, make some tests n then test it on a patient to see if it works or not? Do u think if a white man finds a vaccine like dis prof, they would condemn it outrightly because of some protocols? Y u dey yern like say we no dey play politics pass oyinbo wey bring am(politics) self!

Oyinbo people too have gotten a lot of drugs that apparently could cure HIV but found to fail clinical trials. There are steps and stages.

You can not develop a drug in isolation unless you are an herbalist. Prof quite understood this implication. Why he chose not to obey the simple law baffled me.

A drug could be in clinical trial stages for up to 20yrs to authenticate its efficacy and safety.

yes clinical trails are meant to be done, and ofcourse there are procedures to be followed for making such claims but its obvious prof ibeh is not making a conclusive fact but a probability that he is close to discovering a drug for AIDS. lets not forget prof ibeh is the dean of faculty, he gave a news breifing, he was excited and decided to share his excitment, his work isnt conclusive. its only wen it is conclusive that the university will come in, he didnt make science publication and didnt acknowledge the iniversity or cite them as area the study was carried out . the university should calm down their 'not carried along'............

the response from the school authority isnt encoraging at all, should defend him a little and at this same time claim ignorance of what prof ibeh said.

if this matter is handled well, with increase funding, we might see a progress in his reasearch......nothing is impossible, even if it was latter found the drug was just a vaccine..........

Kzinne: only musicians seemed to hav come out of that slum calld bariga, no scientists or innovators at all? no wonder u com here to say rubbish, take ur sorry ass to d romance section

What's ur point kid bro, and y d insult? Life no hard reach as u dey take am o! Abi I offend u b4? Y don't u just make ur point sensibly like others, instead of insulting me for no just cause? Fine, u dey live for aso rock n me dey live for bariga, na because fingers no equal na! I made a point based on my ability, if u think its wrong, then gently make urs n disprove me without insults. U no go live for dat aso rock 4ever o! Gracias!

la furia: yes clinical trails are meant to be done, and ofcourse there are procedures to be followed for making such claims but its obvious prof ibeh is not making a conclusive fact but a probability that he is close to discovering a drug for AIDS. lets not forget prof ibeh is the dean of faculty, he gave a news breifing, he was excited and decided to share his excitment, his work isnt conclusive. its only wen it is conclusive that the university will come in, he didnt make science publication and didnt acknowledge the iniversity or cite them as area the study was carried out . the university should calm down their 'not carried along'............

the response from the school authority isnt encoraging at all, should defend him a little and at this same time claim ignorance of what prof ibeh said.

if this matter is handled well, with increase funding, we might see a progress in his reasearch......nothing is impossible, even if it was latter found the drug was just a vaccine..........

God bless ur brain with wisdom!

Goodnite peeps

ebucha: Envy,Politics or the usual black man's way of undermining a fellow black man.

This is a very bush statement.
There ARE protocols and procedures to follow before saying "I have a cure for something! Everyone come praise me!"
What if you give the cure to one unique patient and the person dies? What then?
There are several tests and processes that need to take place before any medicine finds its way to a pharmacist's shelf.

la furia: yes clinical trails are meant to be done, and ofcourse there are procedures to be followed for making such claims but its obvious prof ibeh is not making a conclusive fact but a probability that he is close to discovering a drug for AIDS. lets not forget prof ibeh is the dean of faculty, he gave a news breifing, he was excited and decided to share his excitment, his work isnt conclusive. its only wen it is conclusive that the university will come in, he didnt make science publication and didnt acknowledge the iniversity or cite them as area the study was carried out . the university should calm down their 'not carried along'............

the response from the school authority isnt encoraging at all, should defend him a little and at this same time claim ignorance of what prof ibeh said.

if this matter is handled well, with increase funding, we might see a progress in his reasearch......nothing is impossible, even if it was latter found the drug was just a vaccine..........

I agree with what you have written except the bit about the response from the school not been encouraging and suggesting they calm down for not being carried along. Note that the University did not on its own go out to disclaim Professor Ibeh but the provost was only responding to inquiries from reporters about the Professor's claims and as a result he gave them the University's position on the matter as of now. Which to me is a very reasonable response which maintains the integrity and credibility of both the University and Professor Ibeh. As a matter of fact the heading "UNIBEN DENOUNCES PROFESSOR IBEH" is misleading to readers.