nuorlah:

Do u think you would still be alive if that is to be taken literally and is meant to be for every situation? I wouldn't have been a Muslim either.But thank God I am because I am guided. I pray you receive guidance as well.

Has any of the Muslims you must have met in all of the years of your existence tried to kill u? You simply can't be alive if that statement above is one of the pillars of Islam. The things that make you a good Muslim are five and do not include fighting.

Verses of the Qur'an were for times and conditions. The religious leaders were also the community leaders hence d need to fight 2 protect their sovereignity and that was even after they were previously attacked.

If you insist and keep to your thoughts. I have at least given you my 2 cents

JOYCEOUS: wat u dnt get is,, d hausa/fulani muslims, dnt c oda tribe (muslims) as geniun muslims. PERIOD!!!

Philolos:

BS. Tell that to the families of 911. Tell that to the families that have lost lives and are being displaced daily in northern Nigeria, Iraq, etc. Please tell that to the Malians. The true meaning of Jihad: a benign cancer within Islam that is now active. That is the practice of Jihad as we now have come to understand it. And don't try to tell us any different Mr/Ms. OP.
Please tell us something else that we don't already know.

tintingz: then the catholics wont see prostestants as geniun christians

As if the hausas are are the one that brought Islam to the other tribe...maybe muslims in china are not geniun muslims according to you

Psylas: Jihad means inner sruggle

brentkruge:

LOL When its convenient for your arguments; America is a "Christian Country". When you want to argue for rights of Muslims; "America is a Secular Country".

Let me help you. America is a SECULAR country. Religious rules do not run the government. Even prayers are not said in schools and public events.


Iraq (a Muslim Country) invaded Kuwait and Iran. Kuwait requested for rescue from America and others!

Saksreal: JIHAD is a Term often misunderstood and associated with radical militants. The arabic word is wrongly misinterpretated as "Holy War", although there is no such thing in islam. Holy war is something undertaken to forcibly subject others to certain religious doctrines, which is forbidden in Islam.

The arabic word "Jihad" means a struggle or striving and applies to any great effort on the personal and social level. It is striving to do good and remove injustice and evil from oneself and the society. This exertion of effort can be spiritual, economic, social or political. For example, one of the highest level of Jihad is to stand before a tyrant and speak a word of truth. Restraining oneself from wrongdoing is also a form of Jihad. It is a broad concept that includes opposing evil inclinations within oneself, opposing injustice through peaceful means, efforts to improve the quality of life in a society as well as the striving by military forces on a battlefield in defence of the community or oppressed people. Jihad is not synonymus with war and it certainly does not involve terrorism. Armed Jihad is not an option for muslim individuals or groups and can only be declared by the muslim head of state. Moreover it must never be fought for wordly gain, conquest or revenge. Muslims may only engage in battle to protect people's lives, properties and freedom.


Jihad has conditions of restraint that distinguishes it from any other kind of warfare. They can be summarised as follows.

** Muslims must not begin hostilities. They must strive for peace as much as possible.
** All treaties and agreements must be observed as long as the enemy observes them.t
** Muslims must fight only those who fight against them; non-combatants are not to be harmed.
** Weapons of mass destruction must never be used and collective punishment is strictly prohibited.
** Self-defense is not considered jihad if muslims are striking
back in revenge.
** Hostilities should be ended as soon as the other party is inclined to peace

JOYCEOUS: say wateva u lyk, al i knw is dt d hausa muslims dnt c oda tribe (muslims) as geniun. Tek it or liv it

If nt y r d non hausa muslims bin durin dier unecessary religious crisis

sweetcheecks:


I have only 2 points to meke hear,1 is since this was brought to the front page we will not be seeing the messive numbers of banned threads as we are seeing right now. Couse the thinking is when you move a thread out of protective coccon yoou are actual inviting other to feast on the topic of the day? Right? Well moving on from the premise of the point above let me now comment on the topic

@op, you preaching to the converted,some practised personal jihad maybe to limmitted scalle familly & nothing beyond that.

So we @op, pleaselets gobe mdicine to the sick and dying.

WE are believers in the Word ofGod and we wacth the doing of man, then we give name according your doing.

Bélla3: @abdul4hire(funny name)
no one answerd my question including you.
If the quran is truely glorious and complete, then there is no need for the hadith, no?

abdul4hire:

I say one of the greatest injustice is taken something out of context, with regards to the Quran this had led many astray....so we say as i said earlier we hav to luk back at how the prophet himself implemented Jihad.

when he was to perform the pilgrimage to makkah with his followers before its conquest, he was prevented and sent back by the pagans, due to this he had to sign a treaty with them which even involved him taken out his title as a prophet when he was about to sign just to appease the pagans. Even though not being able to perform the hajj that year angered his companions he told them to be patient...this treaty was suppose to last for ten years with the terms largely favouring the pagans. Why didnt he attack them and take over the holy mosque and the kabba? It was only when the pagans failed in their commitments and he had offered several options to them to save the treaty that he marched onto them with his followers.

On getting to makka with his followers the pagans where overwhelmed, so no fight ensued and then he declared
‘Whoever enters the house of Abu Sufyan(someone that had persecuted and killed a lot of the prophets companions)is safe. Whoever locks his door is safe. Whoever enters the mosque is safe.’ The Messenger(sallallahu alaiyhi wassallam) of Allah told his army not to use arms against anyone when they entered Makkah unless they met opposition or resistance. He directed the army not to touch property or possessions belonging to the people of Makkah and nothing should be destroyed . simply google treaty of hudaybiyah or conquest of makkah.

From this we learn
1.if the unbelievers do not prevent the muslims from practising their religion then we maintain our agreements.
2.Only the leader of the muslims can lead/order a jihad.

So we are saying there are verses in the quran that say clearly to attack the unbelievers and a muslim shouldnt sugarcoat, deny it or be apologetic about them but rather he should ask politely that every single person interprets them with the way of the prophet and understanding of his noble companions.

abdul4hire: Infact the late grand mufti of saudiarabia sheikh binbaz wrote a private letter to osama binladen, rebuking his ways and ideology and his likes and osama binladen indeed responded with scorn. It is clearly documented in a book (cant remember the name but it went like 'brothers of the devil) referring to the khawarij( people with this ideology).

Simply google these facts. And please note for the fact that people tarnish the image of Islam through violence, this isnt sufficient for you to reject faith when u hv intellect, senses and access to knowledge such as the web.

abdul4hire: This is simple if you have doubts about the true position of islam, pls google the rulings giving by the most prominent islamic body in saudi. known as the permanent committee (lajna daima in arabic). It is saddled with the responsiblity of giving all sharia rulings in saudi.

If u cant trust what they say about the true position of islam then i wonder who u can trust as a christain.

maclatunji: Thank you for your insight.

Philolos:

BS. Tell that to the families of 911. Tell that to the families that have lost lives and are being displaced daily in northern Nigeria, Iraq, etc. Please tell that to the Malians. The true meaning of Jihad: a benign cancer within Islam that is now active. That is the practice of Jihad as we now have come to understand it. And don't try to tell us any different Mr/Ms. OP.
Please tell us something else that we don't already know.

Bélla3: hello? No one can meet my request??

Geewan:
It is not easy to convince someone who has made up his mind to be blind to the truth.

I am absolutely certain that Islam is the way and that Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) is Allah's final messenger.

Thank you Almighty Allah for opening my eyes to the truth and please let me die as a Muslim (Amin)!

ignis:
Your request has no answer.

brentkruge:

LOL When its convenient for your arguments; America is a "Christian Country". When you want to argue for rights of Muslims; "America is a Secular Country".

Let me help you. America is a SECULAR country. Religious rules do not run the government. Even prayers are not said in schools and public events.


Iraq (a Muslim Country) invaded Kuwait and Iran. Kuwait requested for rescue from America and others!

Bélla3: @abdul4hire(funny name)
no one answerd my question including you.
If the quran is truely glorious and complete, then there is no need for the hadith, no?

Saksreal: From this posts, i could only come to a conclusion that some has chosen to be blind to the truth. I didnt share this to convince Others that islam is not as violent as they think but to guide my fellow muslims right. Alhamdulilai, it has been a success.


To my fellow Muslims, always remember this;
"The slave of Allah are those who walk on the earth in humility and sedateness, and when the foolish addressed them with bad words, they reply back with mild words of Gentleness" - Quran 25:63

nuorlah:

Did you see the swearing in of Obama? A prayer was said in jesus name after which a choir sang grace. He placed his hand on a bible to be sworn in.

You want to come here to lie again?
Is lying preached by d bible?

Geewan:
It is not easy to convince someone who has made up his mind to be blind to the truth.

I am absolutely certain that Islam is the way and that Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) is Allah's final messenger.

Thank you Almighty Allah for opening my eyes to the truth and please let me die as a Muslim (Amin)!